I'm just wondering how the nook color runs honeycomb so smoothly but the evo cant.
Maybe its just a lack of devs? I know the source for honeycomb wont be out for a while. Isn't the nook color running the sdk?
I don't mean to piss anyone off if this question has been asked already.
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I'm just wondering how the nook color runs honeycomb so smoothly but the evo cant.
Maybe its just a lack of devs? I know the source for honeycomb wont be out for a while. Isn't the nook color running the sdk?
I don't mean to piss anyone off if this question has been asked already.
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I thought honeycomb was specifically for tablets?
XterierK said:
I'm just wondering how the nook color runs honeycomb so smoothly but the evo cant.
Maybe its just a lack of devs? I know the source for honeycomb wont be out for a while. Isn't the nook color running the sdk?
I don't mean to piss anyone off if this question has been asked already.
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Mainly no source code, all of the graphics have to be done by the processor instead of the gpu so it shows. SDK ports are always buggy.
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Mainly no source code, all of the graphics have to be done by the processor instead of the gpu so it shows. SDK ports are always buggy.
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Im just curious as to how the nook color can run the sdk so smoothly
Edit: o... so the nook color has a better gpu than the evo?
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XterierK said:
Im just curious as to how the nook color can run the sdk so smoothly
Edit: o... so the nook color has a better gpu than the evo?
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If the nook uses the same chipset as the xoom or another tablet with honeycomb they will be able to use the gpu. I'm not too familiar with the nook though.
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If the nook uses the same chipset as the xoom or another tablet with honeycomb they will be able to use the gpu. I'm not too familiar with the nook though.
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I'm not familiar with it either, but I think it is the same, or very close to the others.
honeycomb = tablets
gingerbread = phones
that said...maybe soon someone will make us some honeybread....or gingercomb
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With the super fast processor and large screen, would it be possible to get a working DS emulator for the GS2 phones if a developer had the motivation to optimize it enough?
I don't see why not. I've been running n64oid and it is as smooth as butter. I don't think a DS would require too much more power.
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My kids LG optimus runs the n64 emu. So as you can see the n64 is a more advanced emu. But the hard thing with the DS is the fact that is has two screens and two cpus one for each screen. So getting an emu to do two cpus at once is a bit harder then a single CPU with gourmet calls. Trust me of they could make it work better they would.
There is a ds emulator for this phone out
I know cause i had it once
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neither of the existing emulators work. They just show you a blank screen once you load the rom. And for real? The DS has 2 cpus? would it be that hard to emulate though? Isnt that what multithreading is for?
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neither of the existing emulators work. They just show you a blank screen once you load the rom. And for real? The DS has 2 cpus? would it be that hard to emulate though? Isnt that what multithreading is for?
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To emulate something you need roughly x2 the cpu of whats being emulated as it can't run in its normal environment. This is kind of why android doesn't just kick ios ass ...we, have way better hardware but it runs in a virtual box and ios does not
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To emulate something you need roughly x2 the cpu of whats being emulated as it can't run in its normal environment. This is kind of why android doesn't just kick ios ass ...we, have way better hardware but it runs in a virtual box and ios does not
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lol first off you don't need 2x you need more like 10x the power....and second the iOS is not any better then android......if you think our OS runs like a virtual machine your need to do some more research. Android runs nativity off the hardware just like iOS.
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lol first off you don't need 2x you need more like 10x the power....and second the iOS is not any better then android......if you think our OS runs like a virtual machine your need to do some more research. Android runs nativity off the hardware just like iOS.
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that is why android has a dalvik cache because it has to run java in a virtual machine .... Which is why ios handles apps better and is faster on dated hardware...
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Epix4G said:
that is why android has a dalvik cache because it has to run java in a virtual machine .... Which is why ios handles apps better and is faster on dated hardware...
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Every computer and even high end calculators have cache. A dalvik cache is to allow standard or common commands to be converted and kept. This is what you get on a PC running Java, as that is what Android runs. The iOS also does the same. The iOS is a standard.build of Unix built on the Mach kernal which is from freeBSD. So all OS's "emulate" unless the code is wrote in machine language or it's simi close cousin C.
Supersonic warriors 2 is so laggy on the ds emu on this phone. The emulator needs to be worked on. Scribblenauts too. This is based on my exp with it running on my e4gt
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Can't you just take any old version ubuntu arm edition build, put
an android kernel in and boot it? Drivers are built into the kernel right? Other than there being no way to receive calls and texts unless, it don't see why it wouldn't work. You could probably make programs that allow you to send and receive calls.
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Can't you just take any old version ubuntu arm edition build, put
an android kernel in and boot it? Drivers are built into the kernel right? Other than there being no way to receive calls and texts unless, it don't see why it wouldn't work. You could probably make programs that allow you to send and receive calls.
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Google this topic. Also I think there is an app in the market that will help.
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That app uses a chroot jail run inside android, I'm asking if you can boot a stand alone version of ubuntu. I've never succesfully got any linux distro installed that way.
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I thought there was a thread in developement for this?
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That app uses a chroot jail run inside android, I'm asking if you can boot a stand alone version of ubuntu. I've never succesfully got any linux distro installed that way.
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What's sad is that the samsung moment, samsung interecept, and what's even more sad is the samsung galaxy 5 has ICS their devs are incredible a device that old and they ported ICS.
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Ubuntu was ported to the epic a while back.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823370
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What's sad is that the samsung moment, samsung interecept, and what's even more sad is the samsung galaxy 5 has ICS their devs are incredible a device that old and they ported ICS.
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The devs are working on it. They are under no obligation to develop for us and expect nothing in return. So either do something about it or shut up.
They're working hard for us so that the epic can live up to its name.
That'd Ubuntu inside a chroot jail, and it's so old it won't even update.
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xboxfanj said:
The devs are working on it. They are under no obligation to develop for us and expect nothing in return. So either do something about it or shut up.
They're working hard for us so that the epic can live up to its name.
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No doubt I got that, but for 1 I didn't say it in a tone like I want it done or their not workin Jack***. I don't expect it to happen there's no use for it. For 2 I would give in return if I knew how to code, seeing how I don't, I don't demand like others. Not trying to be rude but don't act like that towards me thanks.
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No one seems to be comprehend what I am saying. >.>
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Native ubuntu is not possible. Chroot jail is. I've asked this a while back and tried myself, just doesn't work like that.
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[edit] acutally, do me a favor, port this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10486278
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Native ubuntu is not possible. Chroot jail is. I've asked this a while back and tried myself, just doesn't work like that.
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[edit] acutally, do me a favor, port this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10486278
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Yes, you understand what I'm asking for! I would port this if I new how.
Our recovery is different, and doesn't have those fastboot options. I though only htc phones had those.
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Yes, you understand what I'm asking for! I would port this if I new how.
Our recovery is different, and doesn't have those fastboot options. I though only htc phones had those.
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Yes i believe only HTC does that feature but.
IMHO, its not worth it because they don't properly shut off and start to lose battery life. My mother's EVO will say its been running for 118 Hrs but yet she only has the stock battery and it drains crazy even with Juice Defender. And when you shut it off it takes only 1 second and usually anywhere from 2 to 8 seconds to boot.
Ill take Cm7 and have my Boot-ani disabled so it boots fast enough.
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Yes i believe only HTC does that feature but.
IMHO, its not worth it because they don't properly shut off and start to lose battery life. My mother's EVO will say its been running for 118 Hrs but yet she only has the stock battery and it drains crazy even with Juice Defender. And when you shut it off it takes only 1 second and usually anywhere from 2 to 8 seconds to boot.
Ill take Cm7 and have my Boot-ani disabled so it boots fast enough.
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Not the same fastboot LOL
SirLeto said:
Yes, you understand what I'm asking for! I would port this if I new how.
Our recovery is different, and doesn't have those fastboot options. I though only htc phones had those.
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You can kexec the boot.img, but odds of it booting are very, very slim.
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The real trouble is the X/Wayland driver or the lack there of so chroot jail is the simplest way unless you want to try and write the userland driver
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Not the same fastboot LOL
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Hence why i said its different pretty much and idc for fast-boot seeing how it screws up their phones, hence again why i said ill take my CM7 and have the boot-ani disabled so its can boot fast enough for me.
We can do whatever fastboot can do with kexec...I believe your talking about htc's sense "fastboot" which has nothing to do with fastboot in the google android sdk...
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Have you chaps seen this? It's for the Epic 4G Touch, but....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63MLyPfOWUY
It's also been said that Google would have all phones carrying Android 4.0, to come with the ICS Launcher. So if you don't want TouchWiz, remove its Defaults as a Launcher, hit Home, and select the ICS Launcher. Bada-bing: Android 4.0, as intended.
Grood stuff.
And forgive me if this is old news.
sadly no epic touch uses the exynos processor and we use a qualcomm s3 in our phone
blkbltwrestler said:
sadly no epic touch uses the exynos processor and we use a qualcomm s3 in our phone
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Um OP didn't even mention porting it over, don't just assume he isn't aware of the differences
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Laazyboy said:
Um OP didn't even mention porting it over, don't just assume he isn't aware of the differences
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my bad
10char
I love the little bit of details that they did add...but clearly lacking a lot of true ICS aand resembles more of a minor update than the major overhaul it should be. Hopefully, there is much more to come.
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i really hope the ics update will have ics launcher that you can switch too..
Is Gecko Coming to the droid incredible??
You should be able to use Firefox, which uses the Gecko rendering engine, from the Market, no? Or are you referring to a different Gecko?
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computerwiz908 said:
You should be able to use Firefox, which uses the Gecko rendering engine, from the Market, no? Or are you referring to a different Gecko?
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Yeah i'm taking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1pPuWEgKerY#!
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
People think the lack of Android updates is bad? I bet a Mozilla OS would nag you for an update twice a week.
ericerk said:
Yeah i'm taking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1pPuWEgKerY#!
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/b2g/
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Oh, B2G? Not any time soon, if at all. I spoke to the devs last week, and they've only been testing on GSIIs.
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computerwiz908 said:
Oh, B2G? Not any time soon, if at all. I spoke to the devs last week, and they've only been testing on GSIIs.
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DAMN!!! I really wanted to check it out on device, do you know if it would come to the gnex??
ericerk said:
DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!! I really wanted to check it out on device, do you know if it would come to the gnex??
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No idea, sorry. :-\ You could ask in irc://irc.mozilla.org/#b2g.
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I hear there has been progress on this and other ports, so is this still imposible?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865120
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
ericerk said:
I hear there has been progress on this and other ports, so is this still imposible?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865120
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
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I'm going to try to port it....but no promises.
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ericerk said:
DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!! I really wanted to check it out on device, do you know if it would come to the gnex??
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There's a port for the gnex. Its alpha but WiFi and data work I believe
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AshtonTS said:
There's a port for the gnex. Its alpha but WiFi and data work I believe
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I switched from Gnex to GS3. Whoops
Albinoman said:
I'm going to try to port it....but no promises.
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Right on!! Keep me posted!
AshtonTS said:
There's a port for the gnex. Its alpha but WiFi and data work I believe
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I made that port for the gnex
Will look into building B2G for the dinc when I get my dinc in the mail tomorrow or friday. It should be easier for the dinc because I don't have to worry about scaling up all the resources (they're all hdpi not xhdpi) or implementing softkeys.
jellybellys said:
I made that port for the gnex
Will look into building B2G for the dinc when I get my dinc in the mail tomorrow or friday. It should be easier for the dinc because I don't have to worry about scaling up all the resources (they're all hdpi not xhdpi) or implementing softkeys.
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Good luck! I haven't had any...
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jellybellys said:
I made that port for the gnex
Will look into building B2G for the dinc when I get my dinc in the mail tomorrow or friday. It should be easier for the dinc because I don't have to worry about scaling up all the resources (they're all hdpi not xhdpi) or implementing softkeys.
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Exciting stuff,
too bad I never tested it for my Gnex when i had it.
You haven't also made a version for the GS3 lol?
ericerk said:
Exciting stuff,
too bad I never tested it for my Gnex when i had it.
You haven't also made a version for the GS3 lol?
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If I had an SGS3 I probably would make a port for it, I just don't have one lol.
If you wanted to make a port for the sgs3, you could use the galaxy nexus configuration and then grab a sgs3 device tree, plop it in there, replace overlays with b2g overlays, and add in samsung's proprietary vendor files, then modify the .config file to build for the sgs3 and you could probably make it. All the resources are designed for a 240 dpi though, so unless you're ok with everything being tiny, you might want to scale up everything to about a 300 or 320 dpi.
jellybellys said:
If I had an SGS3 I probably would make a port for it, I just don't have one lol.
If you wanted to make a port for the sgs3, you could use the galaxy nexus configuration and then grab a sgs3 device tree, plop it in there, replace overlays with b2g overlays, and add in samsung's proprietary vendor files, then modify the .config file to build for the sgs3 and you could probably make it. All the resources are designed for a 240 dpi though, so unless you're ok with everything being tiny, you might want to scale up everything to about a 300 or 320 dpi.
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Too Much of a newb
I don't even have git set up.
jellybellys said:
I made that port for the gnex
Will look into building B2G for the dinc when I get my dinc in the mail tomorrow or friday. It should be easier for the dinc because I don't have to worry about scaling up all the resources (they're all hdpi not xhdpi) or implementing softkeys.
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Any luck?
Having this on my Incredible, my SIII, or my Kindle Fire would be awesome!
imtoomuch said:
Having this on my Incredible, my SIII, or my Kindle Fire would be awesome!
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There's always wishing right?
OK so I have had my evo for about two years now and when I first got it I rooted it. then a while later ics came out and so did ics roms for the evo. but every time a rom would be stable enough for daily use there would be no more updates for it. even though there would still be bugs with it and it continues to be like that. so i mean whats up with that. would it be that its just not worth it to work on it or the devs don't have time? I just want to know out of curiosity.
detaVe assumes
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OK so I have had my evo for about two years now and when I first got it I rooted it. then a while later ics came out and so did ics roms for the evo. but every time a rom would be stable enough for daily use there would be no more updates for it. even though there would still be bugs with it and it continues to be like that. so i mean whats up with that. would it be that its just not worth it to work on it or the devs don't have time? I just want to know out of curiosity.
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From what I've read, I don't think the evo hardware can handle many of the features that came with the phone. I'm assuming that is what you are talking about though (4g, ffc, etc).
The problem is, HTC no longer supports the OG EVO. The source for drivers for things like 4G and the FFC were never officially released, so this is why those items in ICS and JB ROM's don't work. If you want a fully-functional ROM, stick with a Gingerbread ROM. Everything works-period.
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I also see this a lot too. I wish I knew how to develop so I could make a driver that works for the front facing camera. That is the only thing holding me back from ics and i want it so bad. I think what happens is the dev gets a new phone and wants to work on the newer one, which there is nothing wrong with.
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Whiplashh said:
I also see this a lot too. I wish I knew how to develop so I could make a driver that works for the front facing camera
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Yeah I want to know how to develop also. I've been working on learning coding and what not. Like the basic stuff haha
The ffc needs a proprietary driver. The one that works on GB can't even be modified to work on ICS(easily) it needs to be about 90% rewritten to function. Writing one from scratch would almost be easier and its not easy and extremely time consuming without a team of devs experienced in coding camera drivers.
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Unless you can make a compelling argument with Htc and convince them to release source code lol (hypothetically) Another solution would be to buy an Evo 3d. They have fully functional 3.6 sense roms with everything working.
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Unless you can make a compelling argument with Htc and convince them to release source code lol (hypothetically) Another solution would be to buy an Evo 3d. They have fully functional 3.6 sense roms with everything working.
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Yes 3.6 and 4.0 cuz they're both ics
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I doubt that would happen. They would rather you buy a new phone.
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I doubt that would happen. They would rather you buy a new phone.
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Exactly, that's why sense 4.0 roms on the Evo 3d dont having working 4g or 3d because htc abandoned the evo 3d and are focused on the evo 4g lte. You can get an evo 3d a lot cheaper than a 4g lte. It is a damn shame I know, believe me.
So as far as the og evo 4g goes the most up to date rom that can be used is gingerbread?
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Is there any current development on the FFC or 4g drivers? Where would one start to learn about why goes into creating these drivers? Has anyone taken the time to contact HTC reguatding the matter? Are there alternative drivers that could be used?
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Is there any current development on the FFC or 4g drivers? Where would one start to learn about why goes into creating these drivers? Has anyone taken the time to contact HTC reguatding the matter? Are there alternative drivers that could be used?
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No, I wouldn't know, yes and they will not be released and no.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948619
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So as far as the og evo 4g goes the most up to date rom that can be used is gingerbread?
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Up-to-date, no. That would be Jelly Bean. Fully functional, on the other hand, yes, that would be Gingerbread.
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