Does anybody else think that the gingerbread ota will bring us the new version of HTC Sense (2.0)?
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I would think it would. I hope so, i love 2.0 on business z
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pardon my ignorance - but that is new in sense 2.0?
Just my opinion, I've tried the gingerbread and Z ROMs.
Meh...
not nearly as big a thing as it was between Froyo and it's predecessor.
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yes it will and i bet that it will be our last "Big" update too for the incredible.
we might get some security patches and what not but i think that's going to be our last...
synisterwolf said:
yes it will and i bet that it will be our last "Big" update too for the incredible.
we might get some security patches and what not but i think that's going to be our last...
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Yeah probably :/
sure hope so
Unfortunately. But there's always XDA . My friend has an Eris and its stuck on 2.1. And yet there are still active developers for it. And stable gingerbread roms. I have faith in the community.
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Unfortunately. But there's always XDA . My friend has an Eris and its stuck on 2.1. And yet there are still active developers for it. And stable gingerbread roms. I have faith in the community.
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True, but since the tbolt came out, this forum has slowed down alot. There will always be some, but its goin down now.
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Should it? Yes.
Will it? Doubtful.
Let's hope. All we can do is hope.
sense 3.0
sense 2.0 is kind of old now because of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 on the evo 3d. I hope it comes with 3.0 because of the carousel effect.
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sense 2.0 is kind of old now because of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 on the evo 3d. I hope it comes with 3.0 because of the carousel effect.
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+1 Me too. =)
I can't wait, I love some GB aspects of AOSP roms like CM but really prefer the appearance of sense roms, especially Z roms with sense 2.0.
If it doesn't I'm gonna be pissed
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The problem is, we have to deodex and remove a bunch of stuff just to even get it to fit on our phones. 256mb of space isnt even close to the size of the roms most of these sense 2.0 and 2.1 phones are coming with.
Most of my sense 2.0 ports so far, i had to remove at least 200mb apps, odex files and extra Verizon stuff. Etc...
Im not sure Verizon would be ok with not being able to have any Extra's at all.
Im not sure they will uprade Sense simply because they wont be able to fit it.
I have asked HTC on twitter like 3 or 4 days ago if they can tell me anything about it. They are yet to respond.
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The problem is, we have to deodex and remove a bunch of stuff just to even get it to fit on our phones. 256mb of space isnt even close to the size of the roms most of these sense 2.0 and 2.1 phones are coming with.
Most of my sense 2.0 ports so far, i had to remove at least 200mb apps, odex files and extra Verizon stuff. Etc...
Im not sure Verizon would be ok with not being able to have any Extra's at all.
Im not sure they will uprade Sense simply because they wont be able to fit it.
I have asked HTC on twitter like 3 or 4 days ago if they can tell me anything about it. They are yet to respond.
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HTC never responds to Twitter and Facebook, but they are really good about returning emails
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Just got this response about an hour ago... My question was will we get 2.3 and will it have the new Sense. rosser725 is right, they are very good about email.
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my thought is that it will probably be like the Eris 2.1 update. It will have most of the gingerbread goodness, and there will be a few sprinkles just to add some flavor, but the official "GingerSense" will probably not have all of the sugary goodness that we want in our Rom. How else will they generate upgrade eagerness in all of those who don't explore all the goodies that come with rooting and flashing the beautiful roms we find on XDA.
Personally, I'm rockin the WarmZtwopointtwo.
IMO, an official GingerSense update will need to be pretty nice to overcome all of the custom options we have available to us. (And really, waiting for that update to be torn apart, gutted of all the ridiculous bloatware, padded and polished with root app goodness, then zipped back up...is probably going to provide the best GingerSense Rom update that we can expect)
I'm willing to bet that we will not see Sense 2.0.
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What are we all thinking, will the Incredible be updated to Gingerbread? Any hunchs, if you have any sites that have any info feel free to refer to those too. I love sense so the base 2.3 is kinda dull.
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That's an excellent and completely refreshing question.
I honestly don't know, but if the Thunderbolt comes with 2.3 pre-installed, I feel that the update for the Incredible won't come for a while. If the Thunderbolt comes with 2.2 and has an OTA update for 2.3, I would think that the Incredible would get an OTA update for 2.3 also.
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I love sense so the base 2.3 is kinda dull.
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I will admit I am somewhat of an Android purist and will generally only use stock Android (no Sense/Blur/TouchWiz/etc.)
I don't think any HTC Android phones will get Gingerbread for a couple of months at least, Sense is so deeply integrated into the OS that it will probably take them a while to get it in order. I'd say that once the first HTC Sense phone gets it, all the rest won't be far behind.
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What are we all thinking, will the Incredible be updated to Gingerbread? Any hunchs, if you have any sites that have any info feel free to refer to those too. I love sense so the base 2.3 is kinda dull.
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What I was thinking actually was, when is the next thread going to be started asking for 2.3....?
Follow sites on Twitter like Droid_Life or Engadget, there are many more too.
I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Most likely the update will break root. Most do. But generally given a few days to a couple of weeks there is a new root method
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I caught wind that VZW is going to put out 2.3 OTA update soon, so here's my question.
If I'm rooted, but still on the stock Rom, which I have to put it back to, everything stock except for "root" and radio version, will the OTA update unroot my phone, or in any way mess anything up?
I will unroot it myself and put EVERYTHING back completely stock if I have to, but I'm not ready to give up the ability to WiFi tether my phone with my xbox to run xbox live.
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Odds are someone will take the new OTA, add root, busybox, rom manager and other essentials. Make it flashable via Rom Manager the night it's released.
God forbid. A "I heard" thread. Where am I, androidforums?
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There already are Android 2.3 based roms, but this is gonna be the official 2.3 release with Verizon.
Unless I totally missed what you were trying to say
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Geez dude gimme a break, just tryin to get some useful info here.
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I'm just playin around bro.
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It wasn't long at all after the 23NOV update started being pushed OTA that us rooted dummies had a very simple to follow set of instructions:
http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/
Will be the same when/if 2.3 hits.
I don't think there are any legit sense roms built 2.3 yet. So we are forced to wait
Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
Can't wait for 2.3! However, most surely we will have to reset all settings before can update.
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Does anybody else think that the 2.3 ota is gonna come with Sense 2.0?
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I would enjoy sense 2.0 . Heres hoping!
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i really hope so. that would be incredible.
I for one like the sense clock, but I don't like the launcher, hope they add more buttons to push, like putting all the most used stuff together, like contacts.phone.messaging.browser....all on the same line. Maybe not in that order though.
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If you guys wanna try a great Sense 2.0 ROM I would suggest Warm Z TwoPointTwo. Been using the nightly 3/31 and its a fantastic ROM with great stability. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901822
I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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I think I'm done with custom roms, not a single one I've tried has been stable so far, even though they say they're stable. I think it might actually be something with my phone that's causing instability with roms.
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Sometimes u have to try different rom/kernel combos to figure out whats best for u. I have great luck with nils business z and re eng z, both using ziggys latest bfs w/o havs kernel. Im even overclocked and there both more stable than stock with fantastic battery. I wouldnt give up, your combo is out there.
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Wouldn't there be some word from HTC if so? They did confirm the GB update in Q2 but didn't say anything about sense 2.0 in the emails I saw..
What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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What does "bfs" and "havs" mean?
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I have no idea, but i tried them all an that one works sense roms best for me.
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Are none of the Sense GB ROM's ever going to have 4G? I've looked at several and none of them have 4G.
Probably not until it comes officially
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Didn't the new GingerSense rom give 4G capabilities?
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None of the Sense 2.0 GB ROMs right now will have 4g. Until a Sense 2.0 ROM is released for the Evo, it probably won't happen.
The Sense 2.0 GB ROMs are all ports from other devices with no Wimax, so it's not going to work.
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Didn't the new GingerSense rom give 4G capabilities?
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I was under the impression that it did.
I know it does....lol....but the OP may be referring to the Sense 2.0 roms that you correctly referenced....
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I figured it did. I don't like to say I know though, esp if I haven't tried it. Thanks for pointing that out though, I forgot to mention it.
Ahh that sucks... 4G is becoming a real deal breaker for me when choosing ROMS that is why I stopped using MIUI . I want to use what I'm paying for. =/
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I figured it did. I don't like to say I know though, esp if I haven't tried it. Thanks for pointing that out though, I forgot to mention it.
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I understand, my friend...You take care and enjoy the rest of your day...
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Everybody just needs to relax and stop posting so much (myself included). I need to get WORK done .
Is anyone working on porting Sense 2.x to the leaked Gingerbread ROM? Seems like that would be the easiest way to do it. Not sure if it's even possible, though.
I don't think it's possible. Sense is too tangled in. Otherwise, they could have just taken sense 2.0 and put it over the Evo's Android and had working everything instead of porting all the Z ROMs to get Sense 2.0 on Froyo.
The original leak that was made flashable by Tmartin had 4g but only Sense 1.0 but it was android 2.3.3
Im done with this forum to many idiots around here
mr clown nothing against you our xda its just the idiots that troll the forums that dont know how to keep their mouths shut
downloading to give it a shot now looks very cool!
Thanks , i will give it a try .
this is very good news!
newt you rock man!
Do parts in this ROM help you out for the 2.1/3.0 mix you released a couple days ago?
Being a fan of sense 3.0 this will be cool to give a run and see how it compares to the modded 3.0 roms
Thanks for porting this Newt!
Being 2.3.5 nothing is interchangeable with older versions... So I will have to wait for official from HTC to make a full ROM.... Can't mix it with anything else
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Amazing and awesome Rom . Super fast , wow
Let us start by the issue
Bugs Reports
-Softkey dont light ,
-unable to connect wifi
-miroir application do not work
-mic issue
-Super fast so good ( i know isnt an issue ) lol
Legend : the confirm issue will be in red , the one i cant reproduce in black , time to confirm
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Being 2.3.5 nothing is interchangeable with older versions... So I will have to wait for official from HTC to make a full ROM.... Can't mix it with anything else
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Only problem I've had is WiFi won't connect. Can you post a quick fix? I know its an alpha but this is best yet.
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i couldnt connect to wifi.
haptics dont light up.
love the sezing of everything and is smoooooth.
I want be posting fixes until I get a complete Rom.... This is just for you guys to get an idea of what I will be building in the future.... It will be perfect for our phones and pyramid will not be needed.... Just waiting on HTC
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This is still great news for the simple fact that it will likely make things a lot smoother. Maybe even speedier since your not modifying their binaries can't wait til they get an official version out
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Great news , wow so good, the kernel seems a new one ,custom kernel ? no fc , the first thing i notify .
magnificent .
Why EvDo ? its suppose to be 3G , isnt ?
I will play with it all the night ,
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Great news , wow so good, the kernel seems a new one ,custom kernel ? no fc , the first thing i notify .
magnificent .
Why EvDo ? its suppose to be 3G , isnt ?
I will play with it all the night ,
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It's evdo because I haven't modified anything.... I'll hook this baby up ASAP.... I'll keep an eye out for the official release
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This is pretty neat, something to mess with today.
Thanks Newt!!
Yeah I've gotta get home so I can try this thing has me excited. I think it'd pretty much negate the need for pyramid and such tho, not that its a bad thing.
So how is HTC accomplishing this? In a similar fashion to our hacks for sense 3 or a complete overhaul altogether?
And anyone running, which apks aren't there?
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so does this mean we could actually see an official version of sense 3.0 down the road for inc2?
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Yeah I've gotta get home so I can try this thing has me excited. I think it'd pretty much negate the need for pyramid and such tho, not that its a bad thing.
So how is HTC accomplishing this? In a similar fashion to our hacks for sense 3 or a complete overhaul altogether?
And anyone running, which apks aren't there?
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I would imagine since HTC has their own source to work with, its not too difficult to build scaled versions of it/versions made specifically for the phone. I was hoping since HTC did it with the Desire that they may make one for the Dinc2 itself.... but that may not happen. We can dream though This Rom will definitely be the next best thing to an official HTC release. Keep on with the great work Newt!
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so does this mean we could actually see an official version of sense 3.0 down the road for inc2?
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I was thinking the same thing. I don't see why not. Droid incredible has as good if not better hardware.
Of course I also wonder what sense is going to turn into once ice cream sandwich comes. Since ice cream sandwich will have a lot of the things that sense has inherently (ability for scrolling widgets, etc.)
Just makes me kinda sad. That HTC was all "you'll never see sense 3 on this phone" and the devs put that much effort on just for HTC to change up LOL.
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Tried this rom out to compare to the other 3.0 roms that are available to us...
I like what I have seen so far. It does seem pretty responsive, and I had no FC's.
Besides the issues already mentioned above, I found that the included SU binary on the sd card doesn't work (when trying to flash through recovery, it say's "Bad")
Couldn't get SU to work, which isn't a big deal considering what this rom is.
Thanks for posting this Newt I'm looking forward to you having the official rom to work with
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capychimp got his hands on a sensation ics leak (4.0.1)
and no...i dont think its easily or even possible to port to our phone (we dont have a sense ics kernel, and it would need to be resized in m10 and i dont know that m10 would work with it)
but interesting that the stock launcher changes so much
looks interesting
Nice. I wanna try really bad lol.
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Nice. I wanna try really bad lol.
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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that sucks it looks pretty awesome
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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I'm sure someone will figure something out. I posted the link to capys thread over at newts place. I'm hoping he'll take a look at it. He may get drellisdee to hack around on the included kernel to make it work.
Either way, now that this is out, we should see more ports soon.
I was kinda hoping it'd be sense 4.0 on it though instead of modified 3.5. We have 3 versions of 3.5 now??
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I'm sure someone will figure something out. I posted the link to capys thread over at newts place. I'm hoping he'll take a look at it. He may get drellisdee to hack around on the included kernel to make it work.
Either way, now that this is out, we should see more ports soon.
I was kinda hoping it'd be sense 4.0 on it though instead of modified 3.5. We have 3 versions of 3.5 now??
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really dres or aerovan, maybe corcor would be needed
not really a rom issue so much as a kernel one
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really dres or aerovan, maybe corcor would be needed
not really a rom issue so much as a kernel one
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So far Aero has only messed with AOSP that I know of, but he seems to be a kernel genius that's for sure. I mean her hacked up gb kernel stuff and made it work with ICS. Freaking. Genius.
Lets hope we'll see it soon. I wanna play with it even if there's no theming yet lol. (I say that cuz I'd want a different status bar since its ICS and all. Maybe ICS icons but in white. )
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It has the exact launcher I want
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It has the exact launcher I want
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me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
It does look like 5 signal bars is verizons new thing?
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me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
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Yeah, I prefer the flat Rosie and lockscreen background for sure. But its funny how we have bliss 3.5, traditional 3.5, and now ICS 3.5 all 3 looming different yet still 3.5. Wtf??
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Yeah, I prefer the flat Rosie and lockscreen background for sure. But its funny how we have bliss 3.5, traditional 3.5, and now ICS 3.5 all 3 looming different yet still 3.5. Wtf??
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its my understanding that htc doesn not automatically update ur sense version with ur os update
for example i think the og inc is still on sense 1.0 officially on gb
im not even sure if the sensation on gb is officially still sense 3 or had been upgraded to sense 3.5...so i cant say if it was an upgrade or the same
id imagine htc will save sense 4 for the launch of their next gen ics phones
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its my understanding that htc doesn not automatically update ur sense version with ur os update
for example i think the og inc is still on sense 1.0 officially on gb
im not even sure if the sensation on gb is officially still sense 3 or had been upgraded to sense 3.5...so i cant say if it was an upgrade or the same
id imagine htc will save sense 4 for the launch of their next gen ics phones
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I'm sure. If you look at it though, the screenies say 3.5. Thats all we have to go by at this point.
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me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
It does look like 5 signal bars is verizons new thing?
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yep thats what I thought, for sure i was expecting a new type of lock !!!!
Ugh horrible. Doesn't resemble vanilla ICS in any way which is a shame given the work Google's done on it. I was a fan of Sense back in the Froyo days, but now that stock Android actually has some style to it and looks very good, I can't see myself ever returning to Sense.
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Ugh horrible. Doesn't resemble vanilla ICS in any way which is a shame given the work Google's done on it. I was a fan of Sense back in the Froyo days, but now that stock Android actually has some style to it and looks very good, I can't see myself ever returning to Sense.
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Oems were always going to heavily customize the.os
Don't see why ics would be any different
That being said, this is clearly an early build....not new sense sense 4.0
So let's see how that turns out
Looks cool. it would be pretty nice if the DInc2 got this
The folder of sense 3.5 is not very well
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Oems were always going to heavily customize the.os
Don't see why ics would be any different
That being said, this is clearly an early build....not new sense sense 4.0
So let's see how that turns out
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He's right. Idk if you guys have seen it yet, but Sony already has alpha ROMs for the xperia devices. Its definitely modified ICS. Typical Sony overlay.
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He's right. Idk if you guys have seen it yet, but Sony already has alpha ROMs for the xperia devices. Its definitely modified ICS. Typical Sony overlay.
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yup, the sony roms dont look any different than froyo/gb and neither does samsung's touchwiz ics
the major ics changes that i like though seem to be present in all 3 oem leaks, which are the settings changes and the under the hood stuff