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I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... even the 250 page Gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved UI with some extra **** added in.
it will make you more awesome and sexier to the ladies eyes, consequently, you will get laid like crazy bro....
I've never received an OTA while running a custom ROM. If you're running rooted stock, I'd keep my eyes peeled for news here before installing it, just in case it will do something to root.
Otherwise, I like to be surprised so I know very little about it other than near field communications will be built into Gingerbread.
Also, Gingerbread will go back in time and kill Hitler.
infamousjax said:
why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... Even the 250 page gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved ui with some extra **** added in.
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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You won't get an OTA if you're running a custom ROM. But Cyanogen is bound to come out with a 2.3 version way before any official OTAs. I can't imagine it'll affect rooting etc because everyone running Cyanogen will want their phones to stay rooted.
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
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ddotpatel said:
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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Yeah, I was, no problem. But thanks for adding the additional info, which I should have done really - which is as you say that if course you're on a *stock* ROM and are rooted/S-OFF you should not accept/apply an OTA until it's been verified it won't lock you out of root/S-OFF !
any 2.3 ota will most certainly change the way we have to root, and it might be a while until someone works out how to do it again.
Custom 2.3 roms will be out pretty quick, even if its just a rooted stock so you have no real need to accept any ota that is offered once rooted.
It'll help you get a gf because somehow she'll realize that despite you not owning an iphone, you have gingerbread!
hehe
I probably could have been a little less vague.
Also, I'm positive that someone who knows what they're doing will take the OTA and make a flashable ROM out of it so eager folks can take it for a spin without actually applying the OTA themselves. 2.3 CyanogenMod shouldn't be too far behind.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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Sorry this is a little off topic but I was on my cousins rooted droid x. I went on rom manager and there were much more providers for roms.
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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Aha,... ok.
I assumed there would be a problem going from 2.6.32 (froyo kernel) to 2.6.35 (gingerbread) as that is where there were holdups on the Hero. Fingers crossed then.
.... a teeny bit OT... Has anyone heard of Bumptop? Or is it just me that didn't know what it was? Google took over earlier this year, and it does resemble the 3d gallery + the Android 3.0 tablet video. Just installed to my laptop,... Very nice, even without a touchscreen. Maybe that is what we have to look forward to next year?
Now that I know I can get ladies with gingerbread this will help me a lot -_-
But those of you that actually put real info thanks lol...I just getting more into android development and just want to make sure nothings gonna get messed up if I do get the ota update..cyanogen I'm sure is gonna have it ready shortly, seeings how they broke froyo pretty quick. In all entirty I was just making sure if wouldn't add s back ok somehow and increase security features.
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Does anybody else think that the gingerbread ota will bring us the new version of HTC Sense (2.0)?
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I would think it would. I hope so, i love 2.0 on business z
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pardon my ignorance - but that is new in sense 2.0?
Just my opinion, I've tried the gingerbread and Z ROMs.
Meh...
not nearly as big a thing as it was between Froyo and it's predecessor.
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yes it will and i bet that it will be our last "Big" update too for the incredible.
we might get some security patches and what not but i think that's going to be our last...
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yes it will and i bet that it will be our last "Big" update too for the incredible.
we might get some security patches and what not but i think that's going to be our last...
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Yeah probably :/
sure hope so
Unfortunately. But there's always XDA . My friend has an Eris and its stuck on 2.1. And yet there are still active developers for it. And stable gingerbread roms. I have faith in the community.
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BrettApple said:
Unfortunately. But there's always XDA . My friend has an Eris and its stuck on 2.1. And yet there are still active developers for it. And stable gingerbread roms. I have faith in the community.
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True, but since the tbolt came out, this forum has slowed down alot. There will always be some, but its goin down now.
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Should it? Yes.
Will it? Doubtful.
Let's hope. All we can do is hope.
sense 3.0
sense 2.0 is kind of old now because of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 on the evo 3d. I hope it comes with 3.0 because of the carousel effect.
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sense 2.0 is kind of old now because of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 on the evo 3d. I hope it comes with 3.0 because of the carousel effect.
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+1 Me too. =)
I can't wait, I love some GB aspects of AOSP roms like CM but really prefer the appearance of sense roms, especially Z roms with sense 2.0.
If it doesn't I'm gonna be pissed
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The problem is, we have to deodex and remove a bunch of stuff just to even get it to fit on our phones. 256mb of space isnt even close to the size of the roms most of these sense 2.0 and 2.1 phones are coming with.
Most of my sense 2.0 ports so far, i had to remove at least 200mb apps, odex files and extra Verizon stuff. Etc...
Im not sure Verizon would be ok with not being able to have any Extra's at all.
Im not sure they will uprade Sense simply because they wont be able to fit it.
I have asked HTC on twitter like 3 or 4 days ago if they can tell me anything about it. They are yet to respond.
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The problem is, we have to deodex and remove a bunch of stuff just to even get it to fit on our phones. 256mb of space isnt even close to the size of the roms most of these sense 2.0 and 2.1 phones are coming with.
Most of my sense 2.0 ports so far, i had to remove at least 200mb apps, odex files and extra Verizon stuff. Etc...
Im not sure Verizon would be ok with not being able to have any Extra's at all.
Im not sure they will uprade Sense simply because they wont be able to fit it.
I have asked HTC on twitter like 3 or 4 days ago if they can tell me anything about it. They are yet to respond.
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HTC never responds to Twitter and Facebook, but they are really good about returning emails
sad panda
Just got this response about an hour ago... My question was will we get 2.3 and will it have the new Sense. rosser725 is right, they are very good about email.
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I understand how exciting it is to have the latest updates for your Incredible. Google has announced that most Android devices that were created in 2010 or later would receive the Gingerbread update. However, we do not have a time frame of when the update would become available. We will not know which features would be included or updated until the update if ready for release. When updates are announced, you can find the information at www.htc.com/us and www.twitter.com/htc.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.
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my thought is that it will probably be like the Eris 2.1 update. It will have most of the gingerbread goodness, and there will be a few sprinkles just to add some flavor, but the official "GingerSense" will probably not have all of the sugary goodness that we want in our Rom. How else will they generate upgrade eagerness in all of those who don't explore all the goodies that come with rooting and flashing the beautiful roms we find on XDA.
Personally, I'm rockin the WarmZtwopointtwo.
IMO, an official GingerSense update will need to be pretty nice to overcome all of the custom options we have available to us. (And really, waiting for that update to be torn apart, gutted of all the ridiculous bloatware, padded and polished with root app goodness, then zipped back up...is probably going to provide the best GingerSense Rom update that we can expect)
I'm willing to bet that we will not see Sense 2.0.
DEV ONLY
Blah
I swear nobody flash this
ICS System Dump
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
ICS Data Folder
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/User-data-Android-ICS.zip
so this system dump...i'll take as a good sign.
JoelZ9614 said:
DEV ONLY
Blah
I swear nobody flash this
ICS System Dump
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
ICS Data Folder
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/User-data-Android-ICS.zip
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If you get this working. You will be my hero.
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knipp21 said:
If you get this working. You will be my hero.
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I second this.
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I second this.
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+1
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I can hear it already! "this broke my phone" LOL
Lets just hope what ever devs pick this up can handle the cry babys.
Thanks for this!!!
I feel like a little schoolgirl right now. I'm like, "its gonna happen!!!!"
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I wish I knew how to fix this up for our phone. Would probably be working on it day and night.
Yaaaay
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So what about pulling a few of the apks and giving them a go? Possible?
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So what about pulling a few of the apks and giving them a go? Possible?
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They aren't working yet for me.
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most of the cool stuff in ICS is already in some version of sense already. What I'm really interested in is seeing what HTC does with ICS.
I can imagine its gonna look sick. They did a good job putting it on honeycomb. That looked real nice, but on ICS, it could only look amazing. Then again, I LOVE HTC sense. It's gorgeous
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This is dumped from the SDK, so don't ever expect anything truly usable to come out of it.
^ I was going to ask how this would be different from the source, but that makes sense if it's from the SDK. That's just used to make apps and such correct?
Well, couldn't you take the code used to write the apps and use that to figure out the code for ICS??
Just curious since I know nothing about this stuff.
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loudaccord said:
most of the cool stuff in ICS is already in some version of sense already. What I'm really interested in is seeing what HTC does with ICS.
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ICS is supoose to be a stock android experience. Google has said that ICS is to end fragmentation across the various handsets. Differing UI such as touchwiz, blur and Sense do nothing but slow down updates to people's phones. I'd be shocked if Google allows its partners to slap a new UI on top of ICS.
FWIW, I successfully installed the two VZW apks over mine (I'm on CM7 #105) and have rebooted since. Everything seems to be working fine for me still. My phone network still recognizes my location just fine.
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ICS is supoose to be a stock android experience. Google has said that ICS is to end fragmentation across the various handsets. Differing UI such as touchwiz, blur and Sense do nothing but slow down updates to people's phones. I'd be shocked if Google allows its partners to slap a new UI on top of ICS.
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Nexus phones are designed to run stock Android, but I've read nothing specific about ICS itself being mandated to be stock and only stock. The only specifics Google has offered as to the fragmentation issue is an agreement with manufacturers/carriers to support new devices with updates for the first 18 months which, honestly, doesn't accomplish all that much. Given Android's update history, that'll generally only guarantee one OS version upgrade, two at the most if the phone is released at the right time to span two OS releases.
As for disallowing custom UI's, again, I've read nothing suggesting Google plans to restrict this. As it's one of the primary ways each manufacturer differentiates their product, I'd be shocked if Google can, or has any interest in, doing anything about it beside the aforementioned pledge of 18 months of support.
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Well, couldn't you take the code used to write the apps and use that to figure out the code for ICS??
Just curious since I know nothing about this stuff.
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No...you could not. Reverse engineering wouldnt apply to SDK...because its only a system dump.
Then again ive seen stranger things. So who knows.
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honestly? id say 2-1 we get official ics...it was promising that the og inc got official gb over a year after release, and id imagine we will probably get it
of course, worst case scenario we ll get aosp ics...ie cm etc
I think it will be a Christmas present to all of us.
I don't see us getting a vanilla form of ICS. That would totally change the look of what the standard non rooted user would be used to and cause panic.
It would be interesting to see how ICS and Sense will work together though and I would expect to see a version on Sense 2.1 with ICS more then anything
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I don't see us getting a vanilla form of ICS. That would totally change the look of what the standard non rooted user would be used to and cause panic.
It would be interesting to see how ICS and Sense will work together though and I would expect to see a version on Sense 2.1 with ICS more then anything
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we wouldnt get vanilla ics from htc...just from devs building aosp
sense 4.0 is supposedly for ics
thats actually the bigger question mark imo
would we get sense 4.0 and ics or a dumbed down sense and ics?
idk what htc's take on that is
The actual ICS? Never officially, but 100% likely from XDA/Rootzwiki.
Will probably get a "Sensed Up" version by the middle of next year or maybe closer to Fall of '12, the fact that it's on Verizon adds at least half a year of development time. And also since it's not the HTC Evo or Sensation, they are not as eager to push new OS updates to them, so that is another number of months.
Regardless, ICS will be ported to the Inc2, and then just as with 3.0 and 3.5, we will get the Sense version ported to the Inc2 as well. Just don't hold your breath for anything official. More likely that some bored forum member will do the work than a multi-million dollar company like HTC.
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we wouldnt get vanilla ics from htc...just from devs building aosp
sense 4.0 is supposedly for ics
thats actually the bigger question mark imo
would we get sense 4.0 and ics or a dumbed down sense and ics?
idk what htc's take on that is
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Definitely expect a dumbed down form of sense. But who knows? I've been wrong before and will be wrong again in my life. Lol
Htc has already announced the devices that will get official ics, and unfortunately dinc2 isn't on the list
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Htc has already announced the devices that will get official ics, and unfortunately dinc2 isn't on the list
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F**k HTC.
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They will probably claim that current phones are not capable of running ICS, too outdated.
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They will probably claim that current phones are not capable of running ICS, too outdated.
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Which is total bs since I have ics on my fascinate now as a sdk alpha build and its pretty smooth and comparing that to this this is butter
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If they announce that the Inc2 is getting ICS now, it may possibly kill the sales of the Rezound. Just thinking out loud.
Google even said themselves that any phone running gingerbread can run ICS.
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F**k HTC.
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second that lol
I truly hope we do get ICS. By all accounts our phones are capable of running it.
We will get it, but it will be via are great developers.
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Head over to android police looks like Google released some code
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Head over to android police looks like Google released some code
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404. That’s an error.
The requested URL /source/downloading.htmlCheck was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
wait i see it now
no link
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404. That’s an error.
The requested URL /source/downloading.htmlCheck was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
wait i see it now
no link
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The source is out there man
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yes I just saw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403859
capychimp got his hands on a sensation ics leak (4.0.1)
and no...i dont think its easily or even possible to port to our phone (we dont have a sense ics kernel, and it would need to be resized in m10 and i dont know that m10 would work with it)
but interesting that the stock launcher changes so much
looks interesting
Nice. I wanna try really bad lol.
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tylerlawhon said:
Nice. I wanna try really bad lol.
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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that sucks it looks pretty awesome
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yeah, unless some kernel hackery can be done...i dont see us being able to use any ics until we get a vivow leak or something
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I'm sure someone will figure something out. I posted the link to capys thread over at newts place. I'm hoping he'll take a look at it. He may get drellisdee to hack around on the included kernel to make it work.
Either way, now that this is out, we should see more ports soon.
I was kinda hoping it'd be sense 4.0 on it though instead of modified 3.5. We have 3 versions of 3.5 now??
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I'm sure someone will figure something out. I posted the link to capys thread over at newts place. I'm hoping he'll take a look at it. He may get drellisdee to hack around on the included kernel to make it work.
Either way, now that this is out, we should see more ports soon.
I was kinda hoping it'd be sense 4.0 on it though instead of modified 3.5. We have 3 versions of 3.5 now??
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really dres or aerovan, maybe corcor would be needed
not really a rom issue so much as a kernel one
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really dres or aerovan, maybe corcor would be needed
not really a rom issue so much as a kernel one
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So far Aero has only messed with AOSP that I know of, but he seems to be a kernel genius that's for sure. I mean her hacked up gb kernel stuff and made it work with ICS. Freaking. Genius.
Lets hope we'll see it soon. I wanna play with it even if there's no theming yet lol. (I say that cuz I'd want a different status bar since its ICS and all. Maybe ICS icons but in white. )
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It has the exact launcher I want
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It has the exact launcher I want
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me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
It does look like 5 signal bars is verizons new thing?
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me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
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Yeah, I prefer the flat Rosie and lockscreen background for sure. But its funny how we have bliss 3.5, traditional 3.5, and now ICS 3.5 all 3 looming different yet still 3.5. Wtf??
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Yeah, I prefer the flat Rosie and lockscreen background for sure. But its funny how we have bliss 3.5, traditional 3.5, and now ICS 3.5 all 3 looming different yet still 3.5. Wtf??
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its my understanding that htc doesn not automatically update ur sense version with ur os update
for example i think the og inc is still on sense 1.0 officially on gb
im not even sure if the sensation on gb is officially still sense 3 or had been upgraded to sense 3.5...so i cant say if it was an upgrade or the same
id imagine htc will save sense 4 for the launch of their next gen ics phones
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its my understanding that htc doesn not automatically update ur sense version with ur os update
for example i think the og inc is still on sense 1.0 officially on gb
im not even sure if the sensation on gb is officially still sense 3 or had been upgraded to sense 3.5...so i cant say if it was an upgrade or the same
id imagine htc will save sense 4 for the launch of their next gen ics phones
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I'm sure. If you look at it though, the screenies say 3.5. Thats all we have to go by at this point.
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andybones said:
me too, HUGE improvement over 3.5.
I can't figure out why the lockscreen in still curved though.
It does look like 5 signal bars is verizons new thing?
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yep thats what I thought, for sure i was expecting a new type of lock !!!!
Ugh horrible. Doesn't resemble vanilla ICS in any way which is a shame given the work Google's done on it. I was a fan of Sense back in the Froyo days, but now that stock Android actually has some style to it and looks very good, I can't see myself ever returning to Sense.
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Ugh horrible. Doesn't resemble vanilla ICS in any way which is a shame given the work Google's done on it. I was a fan of Sense back in the Froyo days, but now that stock Android actually has some style to it and looks very good, I can't see myself ever returning to Sense.
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Oems were always going to heavily customize the.os
Don't see why ics would be any different
That being said, this is clearly an early build....not new sense sense 4.0
So let's see how that turns out
Looks cool. it would be pretty nice if the DInc2 got this
The folder of sense 3.5 is not very well
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Oems were always going to heavily customize the.os
Don't see why ics would be any different
That being said, this is clearly an early build....not new sense sense 4.0
So let's see how that turns out
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He's right. Idk if you guys have seen it yet, but Sony already has alpha ROMs for the xperia devices. Its definitely modified ICS. Typical Sony overlay.
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He's right. Idk if you guys have seen it yet, but Sony already has alpha ROMs for the xperia devices. Its definitely modified ICS. Typical Sony overlay.
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yup, the sony roms dont look any different than froyo/gb and neither does samsung's touchwiz ics
the major ics changes that i like though seem to be present in all 3 oem leaks, which are the settings changes and the under the hood stuff