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[Q] Question Regarding Signal on AOSP vs Sense

Maybe this is all in my head so I need a confirmation. Do Sense ROMs have better signal strength/data speeds? It doesn't make sense to me but I just seem to have much better reception and speeds when using a Sense based ROM, including EVO framework ones as opposed to CM and Ruby. Is there ay reason for this or am I just imagining it?

I've often wondered the same thing.
I think, however, that actual reception is tied to the PRL, the radio, the PRI, and some more uber-technical stuff - in other words, things well under the hood that aren't impacted/changed when a ROM is flashed.
That said, I suspect ROMs play differently with those things depending on how they are built, hence what appears (or may actually be) better signal.

It all comes down to the RIL and radio. A rom won't mess with those. They should be identical. Check the signal dBm's to compare roms.
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I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe

solarpolitiks said:
I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe
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One thing you DO have control over is the firmware of the radio. There are currently 3 versions of radio firmware that you can flash. This has nothing to do with the ROM. Different people have different results in terms of link stability and speed depending on them. Look for the Radio thread to find the downloads and information.

I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.

oubravs2b said:
I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.
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How exactly did you test this? There are many variables that could influence signal.

[Q] What does flashing radios do?

question says it all. ive flashed quite afew roms on a telus samsuing galaxy s fascinate and quite afew on a htc desire but i never understood what flashing a radio did so ive always avoided doing it [and the rom still works mint]. what are the postitives and negatives of new radios?

Ever thought of actually searching rather than asking silly questions??

Positive is the possibility of better reseption and battery life(you should be able to find better descriptions quiet easy), negative is the total brick if you do it wrong.
What radio/smallband and rom are you on now?
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TheGhost1233 said:
Positive is the possibility of better reseption and battery life(you should be able to find better descriptions quiet easy), negative is the total brick if you do it wrong.
What radio/smallband and rom are you on now?
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if that is the baseband im on 32.49.00.32u_5.11.05.27

As Theghost said, some radios will increase your battery life and give better reception or a faster GPS lock, others drain battery a bit more. I've been running the newest radio for a while now with Oxygen RC7 and my battery life has been pretty awesome. Great reception too. It's very easy to flash a radio too, you can do it from Fastboot or from recovery (unless you're using a HBOOT that doesn't have enough space for flashing from SD).

[Q] Latest, safest radio for Telus DHD?

What is the best radio for the Telus DHD? Im having battery drainage issues

bump.
would like better battery life

I would also like to know the Safe radio options for Telus DHD
I have seen a few dotted around and some that are reccommended to gain the best peformance with specific roms (revolution for example) But i know changing the radio can sometimes be risky.
Thanks in advance.
oh and equlizer have you tried wiping battery memory, that worked a charm for me...

yep, battery issues fixed

equlizer said:
yep, battery issues fixed
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Glad to hear it!
Ive been trying to find posts with people advising against radio, or recommending the best fit (or general) radio compatibility with the Canadian Version of the Phone but i'm having no luck,,,
So far are the DHD radio's have the ability to be rolled back without issue?
Are there any specific radios that seem to brick the canadian version of the DHD?
does anyone have a definate answer?!

I think it depends on which rom you are using
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Hi,
My radio is 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M and I installed a Stock-rooted Gingerbread ROM.
It came with a radio but I didn't flash it (Mabe I was scared or just wanted to test the ROM first who know...) the fact is since then, my battery life as improved and the radio signal is good enough that I didn't flash it.
(24-32 hours of autonomy with a good use of my device)
Should I think again and flash the new radio anyway ?
here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
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Radio (12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M)

I live near Ottawa, but in a lower reception area, and I have been trying radios trying to get a good mix of reception and battery life.
Currently I'm using "Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 - TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1" and the corresponding RIL on Leedroid GB rom. It seems ok for now, but if anyone has tried a bunch of radios and can suggest their own best results for us Canadian desire owners, I would be much appreciated!

a fellow telus dhd owner here in edmonton. i'm using the latest radio (check sig) with g ril on cm7 with great results. i was using hm ril's for a bit and the device had very poor performance (calls cutting in and out, slow gps sat lock, wifi/3g sporadic disconnect/reconnect, etc). all that has been remedied by just flashing a g ril instead of a hm ril.
i think it'd be good to remind everyone that matching your radio and ril to your rom type (i.e. sense vs asop) is also important. from what i've read, use g for asop and hm for sense roms. it sure made a difference for me.

Thank you for the good advice. I switched up to the newest radio and ril and they seem the best for me I am still interested to know what others agree having success with here in Canada
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I'm a fairly new user, got my Telus DHD (first Android) in the beginning of april, I live in Montreal, and took the entire phone apart within the first week. Tried a whole bunch of roms, then learned the hard way that Sense roms are like beautiful girls in bars at 2 am, they get you excited at first but then it's all disappointment... Lately I've been playing a lot with cyanogen nightlies, and I've been trying to find the best battery life possible.
So far the best I got was CM7.1 RC1 with Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 - TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1
That would last me over 35 hours very consistently with heavy use, screen on and lots of data (3G)
I tried pretty much all other radios on the latest nightlies (right now #170) and haven't found anything as good as 26.06.03.24_M2. I am in the process of reflashing that one while on this nightly to see if things will go back to what I had.
When you know your rom (and apps running) are not draining the battery, is the radio/ril the only other variables that affect battery life ? In other words, would the same radio/RIl drain the same regardless of the rom you're using ?
(forgot to mention I flash Alienmind's stuff over that, so I also use LordModUE v6.9.2 kernel and I change the OC to 122min/1.3max and use Brazilianwax (that governor seems so far seems to be the best)

Radio?

I'm running Redemption 2.4 with HeyitsLou's #9 Kernel and the factory 2.15.00.07.28 radio ... Is it really worth it to to flash the radio? ... If so, What would I gain by doing so? ...

No one can tell you if it's worth it or not because baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your own unique circumstances.
What could you gain? Better signal, faster GPS lock, lower operating temps, better battery life. Conversely, it could also worsen these things. The only way you'll know is to give each baseband version a test drive for a few days and see which one works best for you.

Cool, thanks ... I don't know why but it didn't just click when I was reading posts that the radio is universal on the DInc ... I was worried that it might conflict with the kernel or ROM ...
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Its confirmed to work ive tried it but ultimately the 07.28 radio gave me better battery and signal. And yea what he said lol. All of our phones run diff so testing is your best bet just becareful
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I don't know what the deal is here at my house ... I get great signal everywhere else but when I started using smart phones I noticed the signal was junk here at the house ... the Verizon store is less than a mile away and I get perfect signal there ... But even standing in my front yard its crappy ... At my pop's house they have to use their phones in certain areas of the house or their calls drop, but I can use my phone anywhere in their house perfectly fine ... I may try the other radios when I have time to fool with the phone some to test them out ... Thanks for the reply ...
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YMMV + Odd
As others have said, it is a personal preference (and results may be imaginary). That said, the 9.01 leaked radio was leaked a significant time ago and was never made official; something which speaks VOLUMES to me. I use 7.28.

Hmm, I'll have to look to see what mine is, I guess I assumed it was flashed with a ROM but doesn't look like it.

[Q] Which rom has better wifi strength - CM7 or Sense based roms (eg. ARHD 5.x)?

Hello, I know there was a lot of questions like mine, but, I can't compare it in the same time (I mean, comparing wifi strength), I have only one DHD
Which rom has better wifi signal reception? I know that this is more related to radio, not to rom, but, I would like to know, what is your opinion and what are your experiences? I have CyanogenMod 7.0.3 and recommended radio 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2, and I think that wifi is a little bit less powerful than on e.g. Android Revolution 5.x and with the same radio, I'm not talking about bars and other indicators, I'm talking about "dBm". Around my house (close to exit doors) I have wifi signal on ARHD, and it was stable signal, and on CM7 I have there signal too, but it's not as stable as on ARHD. What is your opinion about that? Regards

Ei! Logically they influence many variables here ... type of baseband, rom, power of the sign wifi, situation of the issuer and the recipient ... it is a diffuse enough question i think...
because What serves me can that it does not serve you...
it´s only my opinion

+1 on SERGL's answer there. the ROM's are going to be using different kernels and have different methods of distributign power to the wifi chipset. Also you may have noticed Wifi is a strage beast when it comes to signals, the oddest thing can affect it (qualified network technician, don't get me started on wireless algorithms), heck even being in the path of it can affect it.
To answer your Question though in my personal experience they have been very similar, some radios have given me better signal strength than other but at the cost of battery.
Suck it and see...

Hi vBB
Yea.. I agree with both SERGI.3210 and wbbigdave. However, from what I understand that questions like these are pretty subjective. It have tonnes of factors that is almost impossible to be listed here. Lol.
It might not be the ROM and/or Radio etc that caused it to be weak but the telco companies themselves that caused the problem.

superstick1 said:
Hi vBB
Yea.. I agree with both SERGI.3210 and wbbigdave. However, from what I understand that questions like these are pretty subjective. It have tonnes of factors that is almost impossible to be listed here. Lol.
It might not be the ROM and/or Radio etc that caused it to be weak but the telco companies themselves that caused the problem.
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yeah mate..i´m with you. there are a lot of variables that make influence in the strenght signal
its a very subjective question, for example im living in a town and my house dates of 1910 more or less!!! The walls have 40 cm of thickness LOL this influences also enough