[Q] Comparing 2.2 to 2.3: Apps to SD - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I rooted my phone to 2.3 (Cyanogen Mod 7). There is a WiFi problem that nobody can explain, so I am happy to revert back to the stock OS and do the official update to 2.2. But after reading a few posts I am wondering about one thing: Apps to SD. Constantly running out of memory was my biggest hangup with 2.1 and the reason I rooted my phone in the first place. So my question is does anyone know if there is a difference in Apps to SD when comparing 2.2 to 2.3? For example, does 2.3 allow you to store more apps on your SD card than 2.2?

I am not speaking officially on the matter, but from experience. My answer would be no. My apps have kept the same amount of memory on the phone in 2.2 as they did in 2.3
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Cyanogen gives u way more internal memory, plus it gives u the option of moving way more apps to the sd card than the official froyo update...the only reason I went back to the official froyo rom "rooted" was because of flash lite but I had to get rid of a lot of apps I had while using cyanogen because I didn't have enogh memory to keep them....o and by the way the official froyo rom "rooted" has no bloatware but even like that it still doesn't comapre co CM7...SO in my opinion if u don't care about FLASH LITE then stay with CM7..trust me...
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If you have s-off via alpharev, you can flash one of the patched h-boots to change the partition table sizes. I'd talk to someone smarter than myself before I went changing those, though. Try in irc. Hope that helps.
Edit: This does not work. The modified partition tables are Bravo specific.

Yeah, I doubt there is any difference, but I can say that CM does give you a heck of a lot more space on your phone. I'm on CM6 and I'm really liking it, but I do miss a couple of things like flash lite, but I don't think that I miss them enough to go back...

Dark Tremors a2sd
I'm using the rooted "official" Froyo 2.2.1 and added Dark Tremor's a2sd. I moved all apps and even the dalvik cache to sd (formatted the ext partition as ext3) and it works beautifully. Even after loading over 40 apps (in addition to all the apps-bloatware in the ROM) I still show over 102mb free. I'm very pleased.

Fuzi0719 said:
I'm using the rooted "official" Froyo 2.2.1 and added Dark Tremor's a2sd. I moved all apps and even the dalvik cache to sd (formatted the ext partition as ext3) and it works beautifully. Even after loading over 40 apps (in addition to all the apps-bloatware in the ROM) I still show over 102mb free. I'm very pleased.
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Where did you find your rooted 2.2? And did you have any problems with the radio and S-off?
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ElTapatio0661 said:
Where did you find your rooted 2.2? And did you have any problems with the radio and S-off?
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The rooted "official" 2.2.1 is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022518
I don't have S-Off on my phone, but it is rooted. I partitioned my SD card for a2sd (have an ext3 partition). The ROM already has the updated radio.

Fuzi0719 said:
The rooted "official" 2.2.1 is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022518
I don't have S-Off on my phone, but it is rooted. I partitioned my SD card for a2sd (have an ext3 partition). The ROM already has the updated radio.
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that link was died. Thanks
P/S: Just install the app ZD BOX and it required Android 2.2 or Higher. You dont need to root just find that Soft in market and install. You can move all the app to the SD card with that soft
I'm using it without root.

Just installed ZD BOX, Great app, means I can remove my battery widget, task killer, 3G watchdog & App to SD, Cheers

Fuzi0719 said:
I'm using the rooted "official" Froyo 2.2.1 and added Dark Tremor's a2sd. I moved all apps and even the dalvik cache to sd (formatted the ext partition as ext3) and it works beautifully. Even after loading over 40 apps (in addition to all the apps-bloatware in the ROM) I still show over 102mb free. I'm very pleased.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925952
Here's the link for Dark Tremor's a2sd. Highly recommended!

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Apps2sd

Im currently running Fresh 1.01. I flashed fresh after running Baked snack for a few days. My question is, since B.S didnt have apps2sd and Fresh 1.01 does, how would I go about getting my SD compatible to install apps to my sd card? Would it affect my root and NAND unlock?
Because I read you have to partition your sd card= wiping all data off
You don't have to do anything with your SD card if you're running 2.2. It's an option / feature on froyo.
From your home screen press menu - settings- applications- manage applications. You can click on the app you want to move to SD. There should be an option to move to SD.
Ps: not all apps can be moved to SD.
In fresh updater there is an option to also enable apps2sd. If am not mistake this one allows you to move all your apps2sd.
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Im running 2.1. sorry forgot to mention that
How do you access this?
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Your rooted why not update to fresh latest rom? It's 2.2 and it's base on the official ota, you'll not be missing anything. All the fresh goodies are include in the latest Rom and it's rooted.
Just do a titanium and nandroid back up and flash the latest fresh,update your radio and wimax and you're good to go....
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Hmmm.. may have to do this.
I just wanted to wait a week or so before going to 2.2. Cause then better ROMS will be out and things.
I remember when I was jailbreaking my ipod touches for every new firmware- maybe that has been brought over.

[Q] Alaska is behind.....stuck with 2.1,help with app2sd on Unrevoked rom.

Yo,
Big thanks to XDA!
The short version.I'm in Alaska, we won't get froyo working correctly on our network up here for a while........Right now I'm running a CDMA Unrevoked 2.1 rom and the phone does everything I need except app2sd. I've done allot of hunting with no conclusive answers to my following question.
Can I push my apps the sd card on the unmodified CDMA unrevoked rom.(try saying that 10 times fast...)I have partitioned the sd with clockwork (rom manger) but have not been able to find a way to push apps to the sd with an unmodified unrevoked rom.I may be missing the most obvoius answer but I'm asking anyway......
I know this will be asked.Why not run a custom rom?
I have run a few modded roms, but I have issues with them on our network up here. Not the roms fault,so I'm working with what we have. The best (no bugs) rom I've run up here, is the unrevoked 2.1 cdma rom.
If app2sd cannot be done on the stock 2.1 unrevoked rom I can accept that and wait.I just need confirmation for the masters.
Any help is appreciated!
THanks,
Nick
If your using a rooted stock sense rom just flash this boot to get app2sd to work on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790864
Its for cellsouth but works with ACS according to the post and it worked fine on my GCI/Digitel phone as well.
I just used Darktremor's apps2sd. Make sure and move the Dalvik Cache too as you will still run out of space on the desire.
Here are the commands for apps2sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
Awesome! I downloaded both files and installed as recommended. I already had the SD partition using Rom manager so I only had to flash from the SD. Looks like its working so far.
Thanks!
Nick
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Yo!
So to give an update and a hint if others on ACS are setting this up. If I move that dalvic cache to SD the phone is dropping the network. Phone and internet. I moved dalvic cache back to internal and all is well. It may be due to a new topram 32g SD card I installed at the same time as app2sd , but I'm okay with the compromise on internal space given the phone is not glitchy at all now. Figured I would give a heads up to anyone up here.
Nick
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Best apps to SD

Hi! I have used the Revolutionary: S-OFF & Recovery Tool and got my phone S-off, rooted and with a custom recovery (ClockworkMod). Now I want to install an app that alows to transfer apps to SD without all the limitation of the native Android 2.3 app. I would prefer to keep my stock HTC rom and not having to instal a new rom. Which app do you think is the best for this?
I have searched a lot, and Link2SD https://market.android.com/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&feature=search_result seem to be the best. Can anyone confirm or suggest better apps? What are their addvantages/disadvanages comparing to Link2SD?
Thank you a lot!
Yea that app is quite ok for beginners, but the best solution would be a init.d script that symlinks like on any custom rom.
However the init.d folder is not initialized by the stock kernel on boot, so if you are not up to tinkering too much the above solution should be ok
rmcsilva said:
Hi! I have used the Revolutionary: S-OFF & Recovery Tool and got my phone S-off, rooted and with a custom recovery (ClockworkMod). Now I want to install an app that alows to transfer apps to SD without all the limitation of the native Android 2.3 app. I would prefer to keep my stock HTC rom and not having to instal a new rom. Which app do you think is the best for this?
I have searched a lot, and Link2SD https://market.android.com/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&feature=search_result seem to be the best. Can anyone confirm or suggest better apps? What are their addvantages/disadvanages comparing to Link2SD?
Thank you a lot!
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Disadvanages are there's no linking of data to sd and libs need to relink on boot.
Data of every app remain on data (user) partition and soon or later you will get warning low space.
I currently have installed 135 apps, 128 linked to sd and 7 on sd, and have free 52mb.
There's no better app.
Better is rom with data2sd
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Gingerbread 2.3.3 RUU Rooted S-Off with Link2SD partition 512MB
There are rooted Stock HTC roms pinned in the Everything Desire Section where you could just pick a ROM that supports Data2SD (like SuperNova or LeeDroid or Oxygen). I'm not sure if Data2SD works on CWM, but it won't hurt to try flashing the Data2SD script on top of the ROM itself.
If you use an app to "transfer to SD", you will still run into "memory space low" problems soon. I have 180 apps on my phone, and still have 1.3 Gb of free space because my Data2SD partition is 2Gb. Never encountered lags or bootloops (I'm using Oxygen, as my sig shows)
Any more experiences with Link2SD? Thank you!
I tried this app, it is performing not bad so far, this is good choice if you want to have stock ROM and more internal space Thanks.
I´m quite happy with it too. Working 100%. Highly recommended!

Problems with my HTC Wildfire S CDMA

S-offed and rooted when I first got it. Removed all the bloatware, and got some needed space back. Tried to install custom ROMS that I found off of xda. When flashed the Rom with unofficial cwm recovery, the phone booted back up, but with no signal. When trying to connect through WiFi, under the quick settings option said "Error". Cannot use WiFi or get a signal. Was wondering if it had anything to do with the bootloader not being unlocked. Went to htcdev.com to unlock bootloader, downloaded the Rom update utility for the virgin mobile wildfire s, the ruu told me my Rom image needed updated. After starting the update, phone reboited with the silver HTC on the screen, then shut off and restarted only to be told by my computer that there was a "device id" error. Anyone know why no signal with custom flashed ROMS? Thanks.
TheKnux said:
S-offed and rooted when I first got it. Removed all the bloatware, and got some needed space back. Tried to install custom ROMS that I found off of xda. When flashed the Rom with unofficial cwm recovery, the phone booted back up, but with no signal. When trying to connect through WiFi, under the quick settings option said "Error". Cannot use WiFi or get a signal. Was wondering if it had anything to do with the bootloader not being unlocked. Went to htcdev.com to unlock bootloader, downloaded the Rom update utility for the virgin mobile wildfire s, the ruu told me my Rom image needed updated. After starting the update, phone reboited with the silver HTC on the screen, then shut off and restarted only to be told by my computer that there was a "device id" error. Anyone know why no signal with custom flashed ROMS? Thanks.
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Have you been flashing GSM roms? If so i believe this have been caused because of that. Roms that you should flash on your phone should be CDMA only.
I'm not sure. I mean I'm pretty sure they're CDMA roms cause I searched "htc wildfire s virgin mobile cdma custom roms" on Google and found like 5 or 6 roms. I've been trying to get some sense 3.5 roms for it but I've been having problems with no service.
If you go to the Wildfire S Android Development section, there are several active threads for Marvelc phones.
Try:
-[Rom] [Kernel] [Soff] [Many More] Team MarvelUSc which has a ton of stock ROMS and custom ROMs.
-[WFSDEV][AROMA] .sense, a customizable Sense 3.5 ROM for the Wildfire S & Salsa which is a Sense 3.5 ROM with some Marvelc support (some users have reported issues).
-[WIP] [ROM] [AOSPKERNEL] SSCM7 for CDMA Wildfire S which works with bugs with MMS and the camera.
One of those should work for you. These are just some examples of popular threads. There are many, many more ROMs out there.
Thank you. Sorry for being lazy and not looking through all the threads, there are just so many out there and I don't always know exactly where to look. That's why I just made my own topic so I could get some user/dev advice quicker. Also, does Astro File Manager let you change folder permissions such as read/write? I.e. I'm trying to delete the virgin mobile boot animation and it wouldn't let me.
ASTRO does not permit you to change root directories as it does have root privileges.
It is best to use Root Explorer or Root Browser, or something similar.
I use Root Browser and never have any issues and it's free. You can easily change permissions, copy & paste files and folders, etc. I have never personally tried Root Explorer.
Thank you for l the replies. Thought I wouldn't hear anything back for awhile. Gonna download root browser and try that out. Got the playstation one boot logo with sound and wanna try it out but gotta get rid of the vm one first cause its really obnoxious. If anyone has cdma roms or come across any will you post them in this topic so I can try them out?
I'm running jmz's v1.5 right now, just make sure u partition your SD card for it.
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Is it a sense 3.5 rom and if so could you provide the link for me so I can test it? I have a 32gb SD card with 28gb free. How much should I partition it?
I partition 512mb and about 60 swap run dalvik off sdcard using app2sd. Works great. Really smooth 2.1 rom.
P.S. kernel oc's to 806 mhz
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I'm new with the app2sd and data2sd and I'm eerie about messing with it until I read more or get more feedback on it. I did read about increasing my internal storage to 150mb with data2sd and partitioning my SD card but I'm kind of scared to do it cause I'm afraid something will go wrong.
TheKnux said:
I'm new with the app2sd and data2sd and I'm eerie about messing with it until I read more or get more feedback on it. I did read about increasing my internal storage to 150mb with data2sd and partitioning my SD card but I'm kind of scared to do it cause I'm afraid something will go wrong.
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The internal storage is 150mb all the time unless u use a partition. It's very simple to do, just make sure u copy all your music, pix, etc to a computer before making the partition as this will format your card.
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TheKnux said:
I'm new with the app2sd and data2sd and I'm eerie about messing with it until I read more or get more feedback on it. I did read about increasing my internal storage to 150mb with data2sd and partitioning my SD card but I'm kind of scared to do it cause I'm afraid something will go wrong.
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Its very easy. If you don't have anything worth saving on your sd card (or if you do, back it all up on the computer), go to recovery choose advanced then partition sd card. Then it will ask you the size. Choose whatever you want. I chose 1GB just to be on the safe side in case i decide to go app crazy. Then everything else is automatic.
If you want to go further and free up more of your /data partition use the apps2sd app and move dalvik-cache to SD.
What apps2sd program do I use and where can I get it?
If u r using jmz's rom it has the apps2sd GUI app preinstalled. U can use it to move dalvik cache to SD, zipalign on boot, etc, but once u make the partition and install the ROM, your apps will automatically move to your SD partition. No need to do it manually.
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Im not using any custom roms at the moment because i cant find any that will work for my phone. The roms will load but my virgin mobile service wont start-up and i keep getting phone.Android is not responding message.
TheKnux said:
Im not using any custom roms at the moment because i cant find any that will work for my phone. The roms will load but my virgin mobile service wont start-up and i keep getting phone.Android is not responding message.
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Use my Rom. Works perfectly with virgin mobile as that's what I have
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TheKnux said:
Im not using any custom roms at the moment because i cant find any that will work for my phone. The roms will load but my virgin mobile service wont start-up and i keep getting phone.Android is not responding message.
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Make sure u have cwm 5.0.2.6 if u have a different one u could run
Into problems, also check your hboot. I'm on 1.06 and recommend the same. Also make sure u r clearing dalvik cache, formatting boot, data, system, cache, and SD ext before installing ROM. I would also create a new partition of 512, so it will be a completely clean install. If u have done everything right u will have no problems, if something wrong has happened, most likely it was an error u made and can be fixed.
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If your phone is acting funny you could try superwipe by simonsimons. I did just because I was flashing so many roms and mods everyday
He has also posted original stock ruu's. I recommend jmz's rom it's been working perfectly, and I've tried the others. Most mods have flashed without issues.
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I partitioned my SD card for 4gb with a 256mb swap (which I don't quite know what that means) I have a 32gb class 10 SD card and I don't even use a 1/3 of the space so I figured I'd partition using the biggest option available. I flashed jmz's rom and everything went okay. I currently have 102mb of internal free by using the link2sd method and I ended up flashing back to the stock vm Tom cause I didn't like how jmz's only had around 56mb free. Is there any way to get more than 56 or is that cause all of the stuff on the rom?

Which rom suits my requirements?

Hello,
hoping for some input guys- I have got here an old Desire which runs 4.1 It is extremly slow and as soon as i install a game it shows me that it runs low on memory
i want to give the phone to my daughter but i need a properly working rom. It should be fast and reliable. No extras needed and i should be able to install a few games without running into trouble.
any recommendatios?
TIA
Install any of the Mildwild's ROMs. They are light stable and fast.
If you need Sense, then install the Cool Droid V3.
Ics and jb ROMs are not yet fast enough.
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Thanks a lot. will go with the cool droid then.
Nikez latest 4.2.2 ROMs are nice and fast ( lacks camera though) , I'm using MIUI XJ now, pretty good everything works as it should and also incredibly fast.
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dvsk69 said:
Install any of the Mildwild's ROMs. They are light stable and fast.
If you need Sense, then install the Cool Droid V3.
Ics and jb ROMs are not yet fast enough.
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hii sir how to activate a2sd on cooldroid ?
i am using 4ext recovery 1 gb ext4 partition.
must i flash cool-align?? thanks
conjro said:
hii sir how to activate a2sd on cooldroid ?
i am using 4ext recovery 1 gb ext4 partition.
must i flash cool-align?? thanks
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A2SD is integrated in the ROM. Since you already have an ext4 partition, it should get activated automatically. No action required from you.
dvsk69 said:
A2SD is integrated in the ROM. Since you already have an ext4 partition, it should get activated automatically. No action required from you.
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Please allow me to borrow this thread a little bit instead of starting a new one.
I am also interested in getting a custom ROM, but I just can't live without the default Sense UI. I think I read somewhere that Lee Droid is a popular ROM that has the HTC Sense UI. But I have searched for it using Google and they don't seem to have a dedicated website.
I think there is a member here at XDA with the name LeeDroid. Is that the guy behind this ROM?
Is Lee Droid being actively developed at the moment?
How do I download and flash Lee Droid, or any other ROM? I mean is ROM Manager a must? Or can I use the option "install from zip" in CWM?
So except for Lee Droid, and Cool Droid, what other ROMs are using Sense UI? I just need the basic version, nothing extra flashy and HD, etc. I installed Cyanogen 7 once but didn't like the interface so I removed it.
Fractalogic said:
Please allow me to borrow this thread a little bit instead of starting a new one.
I am also interested in getting a custom ROM, but I just can't live without the default Sense UI. I think I read somewhere that Lee Droid is a popular ROM that has the HTC Sense UI. But I have searched for it using Google and they don't seem to have a dedicated website.
I think there is a member here at XDA with the name LeeDroid. Is that the guy behind this ROM?
Is Lee Droid being actively developed at the moment?
How do I download and flash Lee Droid, or any other ROM?
So except for Lee Droid, and Cool Droid, what other ROMs are using Sense UI? I just need the basic version, nothing extra flashy and HD, etc.
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LeeDroid's Sense ROMs are very good too. Just look for the development thread in the Desire Index. If youre looking for good Sense ROMs here are some of the best ones (in terms of stability, functionality, etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426339
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195
To answer your question, Cool Droid V3 is not Lee Droid's ROM. Its by another dev. You just need an ext 3 or 4 partition on your SD card and 4ext recovery installed. You should be good to go.
dvsk69 said:
LeeDroid's Sense ROMs are very good too. Just look for the development thread in the Desire Index. If youre looking for good Sense ROMs here are some of the best ones (in terms of stability, functionality, etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426339
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195
To answer your question, Cool Droid V3 is not Lee Droid's ROM. Its by another dev. You just need an ext 3 or 4 partition on your SD card and 4ext recovery installed. You should be good to go.
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I see that LeeDroid requires ext3 partition for Data++. I'm not sure what Data++ does but I know it has something to do with memory, and I love memory, and this phone (Desire) is known for constantly running out of memory. So I'm interested in that feature.
I used the Link2SD app for some time (on root, S-OFF and stock ROM with Android 2.29) and it worked pretty well until the Netflix app broke it down for some reason. It just wouldn't play nicely with Link2SD, the Netflix app was the only app that did not work. I ended up in boot loop and having to reflash everything with RUU. Luckily I saved my data.
Which one of those ROMs listed above is best for off-loading the internal phone memory and has minimal change to the UI? Do they all have A2SD integrated? I think this part is essential for this phone to work properly. I can't believe they put in so small memory in it. If I knew I wouldn't have bought it. I was not informed about it, I was just swept in all the hype about it that I didn't pay much attention to that aspect of the phone. I think I was under the impression that at least 512 MB would be available for user data.
Fractalogic said:
I see that LeeDroid requires ext3 partition for Data++. I'm not sure what Data++ does but I know it has something to do with memory, and I love memory, and this phone (Desire) is known for constantly running out of memory. So I'm interested in that feature.
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Data++ is an hboot. An hboot is the partitioning layout of the desires internal memory. There are 3 partitions: system, data and cache. In order to have the most amount of space for app data, you want a bigger data partition. The Data++ hboot allows you to have this. As you can see on alpharevs website, the data++ allocates the memory like this:
System -180M Cache-5M Data-252M
To use this hboot, the rom's system size must be able to fit into the system partition (in this case 180mb).
chromium96 said:
Data++ is an hboot. An hboot is the partitioning layout of the desires internal memory. There are 3 partitions: system, data and cache. In order to have the most amount of space for app data, you want a bigger data partition. The Data++ hboot allows you to have this. As you can see on alpharevs website, the data++ allocates the memory like this:
System -180M Cache-5M Data-252M
To use this hboot, the rom's system size must be able to fit into the system partition (in this case 180mb).
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So HBOOT is not the actual bootloader (IPL+SPL)? Because that's what I thought it was...
I would like to try the An-Droid (Anderl's Android).
So what I need is "bravo_alphaspl-data.img" file from AlphaRev website and the AN-Droid 2.2.0 data++ file? The AN-Droid file is called "An-Droid_2.2.0_data.zip" and it is 154.8 MB. So this will work?...
I have radio 5.09.05.30_2. I checked the HTC Desire stock radio thread. It says that 5.17.05.23 is the latest. Do I have to upgrade mine?

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