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upgrading the ROM - a noob guide

Hi all
please dont flame the n00b. I have recently acquired my first smartphone the diamond and am very pleased with it. I have read through the threads and have developed my understanding of the considerations to make in flashing the ROM on my phone
I have an early version of the ROM as I received one of the first stock into the UK, which turned out to be grey imports from hong kong :S . I would like to realise some of the speed / battery / bugfix benefits of the newest ROM
however many of these threads are quite long , so i was wondering if someone could do me a favour by succintcly summarising the steps i would need :
my phone is runnning :
1.34.831.1 WWE - the unit is from hong kong i beleive, i have registered on HTC HK e-club
I would like to upgrage this is the latest signed UK ROM ?
If this is not possible can advice be given on going to the latest HK WWE ?
I understand this will involve changing the HARD SPL ?
Additionally can any method provided be confirmed as a reversible process should i need to invoke the warranty ?
thanks in advance for your help.

please let me know if you need any further information form me in order to help.
thanks

1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer HK stock roms, they've been posted by tudispin I think.
3: flash
4: should need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.

you should be able to flash back for warranty purposes.. safest thing is still to dump your current ROM (search the forums and wiki for how-to), but i think you'll be alright. You can check out my site for step-by-step instructions on how to upgrade your ROM

thanks so far
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?

oh but
dump my current ROM before proceeding .. just in case

porkmince said:
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
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yeah you should technically be able to load any ROM... if signed Hard-SPL, then only any signed ROM of course

hit a slight problem
So i am tryiong to HARD SPL. have gone through all the instructions but :
when installint the HARD SPL . the phone screen switches off the progress bar on PC sits at )% for about 20 sec it then accelerates to 100% very quickly within around 2 mins. It say that is is installed correctly
however the phone restarts and i can still see the d: as 1.34.00.00
so the loinex 1.3 has not installed
the windows is hard reset as i then have to go through the screen calibration
any help appreciated

HardSPL is not the ROM, just software to enable the update
once you installed HardSPL you should now be able to install a ROM

hi
yes sorry for the confusion in my past previous description. It is the HARD SPL software update which says that it is installed but isnt
i have not attempted to load another ROM until this is done first
any further advice ?

in essence when installing the olinex 1.30 i get no errors
bit it doesnt install and all i get is a hard reset ?

If it goes through OK, it has installed You don't see anything different in the splash screen- that just lists the basics
To confirm, go into Bootloader mode by holding down the Volume Down Key and at the same time pressing the red reset button at the mouth of the stylus silo. It can take a few goes, but will show a rainbow screen listing the SPL etc, which ought to say 1.30 Olinex, confirming the correct SPL flash.
Once confirmed press the reset button to restart.

ok thanks for step by step advice there
the HARD SPL is loaded version 1.30 I will try a new ROM now
i am trying the :
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
which is signed so should work

mmm even though the phone is synced up I get error
"262" when i try to install new ROM
it basically stalls on 0% for about 4 to 5 mins before it aborts with this error message.
i have searched the forums but cannot see a succinct plausible answer

hmm.. i thought that error was usually encountered with unsigned ROMs...
1) are you flashing with xp or vista
2) are you connected through a USB hub?
3) what EXACTLY are your steps for flashing this ROM

hi there
yeas flashing through vista 64 bit
and not using USB hub but direct connection
I downloaded the signed 1.37.401.3 Europe ROM linked from this forum and this installed fine
the improvement over the old ROM is immense. so far i am delighted by the results.
I am still perplexed as to why the asian ROM did not install still :S
only difference so far is that this EUROP ROM does not have the remote desktop app
thanks for all your help. I am going to test this ROM over the coming week, but unless there is a compelling reason to another ROM i will stick with this

Why HARDSPL when flashing HTC rom?
When using the newer 1.37 roms, you download the installer from e-club, make activesync conn en go for it?

A noob's point of view
I got my Diamond about two weeks ago, and since I'm new to PDAs and WM, I've done a lot of reading on the forums, wiki etc. At first things were quite murky for me and I know what my fellow noob here is feeling. So I thought I should share my experience (or lack there of) for the use of other noobs.
What I Know
HardSPL is needed in order to flash a cooked (non original HTC) ROM. As I understand, it is the equivalent of BIOS for PCs, mixed with a bootloader flavor. You need to first change this section of software first in order for the cooked roms to be accepted.
HardSPL comes in two flavours:
- the developer edition with which you can flash any type of roms (signed, unsigned, original) link: HardSPL dev ed
- the signed edition with which you can flash signed roms (original HTC, and cooked signed). The signed ROM versions give an added sense of reliability since they are tested. link: HardSPL signed the topic name was confusing for me at first
A list of signed ROMs: here
There are more than one "cooks" out there working in teams or otherwise. And more than one ROM you can flash. I did a lot of reading before I chose the one to use, I find user feedback the best measuring tool for quality .
Now for the flashing part
After you downloaded the HardSPL and the chosen ROM, you need to install ActiveSync. This is found on the CDs that come with the device, or downloadable fromo the M$ ****e aaaa site ActiveSync is a tool used for transferring contacts, e-mails and other outlook stuff if you use it, files, AND is needed for the flashing process. When installing, if you do not use outlook and do not like "syncronisation folders" on your desktop uncheck every "folder" option, you will be better off.
This site was very useful to me since it gave a detailed description flashing with visual documentation which (a bit uncomfortable to admit) was very helpful for me.
The HardSPL flash takes little time to complete and unless going into bootloader mode (vol down + soft reset) is completely transparent to the user.
The ROM flash takes longer 10 mins - they go by pretty slowly .
For safety reasons, I also downloaded an original HTC ROM just in case.
Because the flashing process once started SHOULD NOT be stopped there are a few things to consider:
- charge the battery
- firmly and directly (no hubs) plug the USB cable into computer and device.
- if you live in an area where power cuts are often consider doing the flashing on an UPS-enabled computer.
When the flashing finishes, the device will reboot and you will have to set-up again. If using TLRs ROM do not panic if you have to align the screen 6 times or so as I did. You will eventually get to the next step
What I don't know or am not sure of:
- when using signed HardSPL can I load an original HTC signed ROM? if so, is this enough in case of RMA issues?
- when reflashing with a newer/different ROM can I restore a back-up made with the previous ROM? I'm using sprite and I backed up everything, including what registry stuff it offered to. In this case, do i need to reapply the registry tweaks? dunno if sprite backs-up all the registry or just some of it.

Im must thank guys for this thread, i am minutes from going to the postal office to get my Diamond and this weekend has been full of information reading and program downloading, but the only thing i was a bit hung up on was this flashig buisness. Of course i know a lot about flashing ( Right about everything there is to flash ) but almost nothing about Phone Flashing
But i think i will try the version i get now first to see if i feel the need to update to anything else...
Hence my question is rather simple... How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.

Reb0rn said:
How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
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No, that is for HardSPL info. To see the ROM version, go to settings - device info and you'll see both ROM and radio.

HELP NEEDED PLEASE! Rom+instructions for my o2 trion wm6

Hi amm
I am new to windows mobile. i got this ophone of my old work mate.
I have tryed to put windows mobile 6 on the phone as it only have wm5 on it, but i get as far as the phone changing to upgrade mode ( 3 striped red, blue and green) screen and then it says that the phone cant comunicate.
I have tryed going though o2 website but it not recignizing my serial for the phone ( ex contract and also was a replacement handset)
any help would be nice, by the way i am on windows vist a, but i have also tryed it on xp, but the same still happns.
Thanks
Paul

anyone? noow any suggestions

This answer may seem condescending, but it isn't.
1. Are you attemtping to flash a rom update from the phone's original carrier or a non carrier specific rom? If a non carrier specific rom then see #2. If carrier specific did you download the rom from a secure place such as the carrier's website? If not, you may want to and try again.
2. Have you made sure your phone is CID and sim unlocked? This has to happen if you are attempting to flash a non carrier specific rom onto your phone. There is literature in your specific phone's Mobile 6 forum that is stickied or in the Wiki which will show you the best way to accomplish flashing. You must first read, then use the correct methods and tools or you will most likely create a brick. At this point of the game your phone is a little older and the path to Mobile 6 is well laid out. Which leads to the next question.
3. Have you done a search for this problem? You are not the first and will not be the last to have run into this issue. Using the search button does wonders here. If you have the cajones to flash your phone you are adventerous and the knowledge you will pick up will help in the long run. I say this because flashing is addictive and once you see the immediate improvements you will continue to look for better roms.
4. Please remember this is a developer's forum so the intelligence level is higher than most other forums but the patience level is much lower for those not willing to follow directions and/or help themselves. Some things have well laid out paths and others are trial and error. A lot of people here are doing a large amount of work for little to no money so please READ before embarking on your journey.
5. Get to work. Oh yeah. Please lit your phone's information in your signature. It will save someone asking the first 2 or 3 questions I did everytime. You could use mine as an example. Believe me it saves time and people are more willing to help.

hey thanks for your message
I am trying to flash the phone with Official O2 UK WM6 Trion (Hermes) rom 3.54.206.1_6275+radio 1.47 (3-8-2007) , the phone is simfree.
but even on trying to install Olipro v7 2.10 i get messages like 266 or 260 conection timed out or something. i am technical minded and i have tryed to serch for the awsers using google.

I suggest reading the Wiki and your Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
What is the HTC name for your phone? The Trion is a Hermes or a Wizard correct?
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.

Okay - can you do a soft reset and have the phone work fine? That is step one. If so, then go to the Hermes Mobile 6 forum and check out the stickies. Dr. Puttingham wrote a great guide to flashing our phones.
If you can't get the phone working from the soft reset I suggest reading the Wiki and the Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
The Trion is a Hermes, which is what I have (Cingular 8525). I would suggest a non carrier rom of Mobile 6.1. You will find it to be much faster and stable.
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.

hi i just found out that thephone is not a trion afterall it is a xda mini s, can this still be upgraded

I believe the Mini S is a Wizard. check out the forums. All the answers are there. I retired my Wizard 3 months ago . This is an easy problem to fix. Just read. I still suggest Mobile 6.1. Especially on the Wizard.

How to tell if my phone has been hard spl

I bought my tp2 last year before it dropped here in the US.
I bought it from a company that said HTC sent them the phone as a tester or something along those lines and it was in a special box and so on when i got it.
Now i asked the guy a while back about the phone and he replied with this
(Yes you won't be able to do that please do not lock up the handset, you will want to use that bootloader when the ROMs start coming. FYI there should be wm6.5 uploaded on the net. I cannot disclose where but if you search you should be able to find it. Depending how the rom is cooked you should be able to flash it w/o any issues. The device will take custom builds)
How do i get it to bootloader so i can see tell what is going on with my phone?
I have not even upgraded to 6.5 yet because I have been so over trying to get it to work and my ROM FLASHER moved from LA to TX.
So i am entertaining suggestions, I have a mac too so that is why i have not been able to flash it myself.

Just turn the device completely off, then press the power button while holding the volume down button. You should see some lines of text, with the second line being your SPL version. Post it here, if you would. By the sound of it, your device is probably superCID and security unlocked, meaning you can flash any official HTC ROM that is signed by HTC. It's extremely doubtful that the device would have HardSPL considering HardSPL is kind of the opposite of HTC, and they wouldn't generally use the products their hacking community has created.
If you don't have HardSPL, you can always put it on your Rhodium and flash ROMs as you would on any other Rhodium.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just turn the device completely off, then press the power button while holding the volume down button. You should see some lines of text, with the second line being your SPL version. Post it here, if you would. By the sound of it, your device is probably superCID and security unlocked, meaning you can flash any official HTC ROM that is signed by HTC. It's extremely doubtful that the device would have HardSPL considering HardSPL is kind of the opposite of HTC, and they wouldn't generally use the products their hacking community has created.
If you don't have HardSPL, you can always put it on your Rhodium and flash ROMs as you would on any other Rhodium.
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Yeah it says
RHOD100 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.79.0000
and says Security Unlocked at the top of the screen.
So how can i change the windows to 6.5 or update the ROM all together to something far better? I tried to get it from the HTC site but when i enter my serial number it says that i do not have the right phone but thats not accurate.
Remember I have an apple computer so unless i can do it via SyncMate (not likely) i need other options.
Thanks loads

If you have a Mac and for some reason or another cannot get access to a Windows computer, you cannot HardSPL. However, since your device is security unlocked and superCID, you can still flash any HTC signed ROM, regardless of carrier or branding. If you don't HardSPL, then I would recommend flashing the 6.5 update for the unlocked European Rhodium, found here. If you would rather flash an official Rhodium ROM from another country or operator, a full list of Rhodium shipped ROMs is available here.
However, keep in mind that since you don't have HardSPL, you cannot flash from the SD card. This means you must flash using the included EXE, which probably means you need access to a Windows computer anyway (maybe you can flash using the EXE on a Mac one way or another, but I don't know how).
I would personally recommend finding a Windows computer to use so you can HardSPL once, whether it be a public computer, a friend's computer, etc. Once you HardSPL, you can flash official and custom ROMs, reduce your chances of ever bricking your device because of a flash, and flash your device with other ROMs via your microSD card, so you never need access to a PC again. This may seem like more work now, but it will save you plenty of time in the long run, since you can flash your device as much as you want without needing a Windows computer.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
If you have a Mac and for some reason or another cannot get access to a Windows computer, you cannot HardSPL. However, since your device is security unlocked and superCID, you can still flash any HTC signed ROM, regardless of carrier or branding. If you don't HardSPL, then I would recommend flashing the 6.5 update for the unlocked European Rhodium, found here. If you would rather flash an official Rhodium ROM from another country or operator, a full list of Rhodium shipped ROMs is available here.
However, keep in mind that since you don't have HardSPL, you cannot flash from the SD card. This means you must flash using the included EXE, which probably means you need access to a Windows computer anyway (maybe you can flash using the EXE on a Mac one way or another, but I don't know how).
I would personally recommend finding a Windows computer to use so you can HardSPL once, whether it be a public computer, a friend's computer, etc. Once you HardSPL, you can flash official and custom ROMs, reduce your chances of ever bricking your device because of a flash, and flash your device with other ROMs via your microSD card, so you never need access to a PC again. This may seem like more work now, but it will save you plenty of time in the long run, since you can flash your device as much as you want without needing a Windows computer.
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Ok i guess I have to go to Best Buy and get an open box computer or something.
Is there some place on here that will show a fast step by step on how to flash.
I go to the ROM section and its flooded with stuff saying do this dont do that. I would like to be able to the library, go to this site, plug in press a button that says make my phone the **** again, then sign off and come home.
Suggestions ?
Thanks

This is probably what you're looking for. It's a step by step tutorial for flashing HardSPL and custom ROMs, written for beginners.

"New" HTC Tilt

I just bought an HTC Tilt on eBay. I am pretty sure that the previous owner flashed the original ROM, the info I can find is listed below. I don't use much data, I am interested in running android on the phone. If I read other posts correctly, I have to run android on top of windows. I would prefer to hard flash the ROM if possible but if not, no problem. I have HardSPL and CidUnlocker from the "Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom" post by mskip.
I am looking essentially for a decent android OS I can play around with.
If I can hard flash the ROM I take it I will need to flash a new radio also is that right? Do I need a new radio if I just soft flash?
Any help you can provide will be appreciated
Phone boots with the following:
R-1.65.21.18
G-25.88.40.05H
D-3.TPCElite
ROM version: AthineOS WWE
ROM date: 04/30/09
Radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
Model No.: Kaiser
Platform: PocketPC
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
CE OS 5.2.23016 (Build 23016.5.3.0)
A TPC ROM
Device name: HTC_TyTN_II

No, your phone is not running stock...it's running a custom ROM as should be obvious by TPCElite and AthineOS.
Android DOES NOT RUN ON TOP OF/INSIDE/NEXT TO WINDOWS. It is completely seperate and native.
You can run off of SD card or off of the internal NAND (replaced Windows Mobile).
Do a bit of reading on this thread (there's a link to a great instruction guide). This is by far the newest/best Android I've ever used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154

Look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643504

Since you are allready running custom you propably allready have a HardSPL installed. Hold down Camera button and reset (pen in small hole near USB connection) to see what HardSPL version you have installed.
You may be better of with a new Radio. I'm using the same version as the author of the polymod 2.1g install.
Then you may want to do the Haret install first just to figure out which panel type you have. However if you flash the wrong one you could just enter the SPL screen with the procedure describe above and reflash until you get one that works so you don't have to go the Haret route unless you really want to.
There is a noticable difference in speed with a NAND install and it also speeds up booting as you do not have to boot Windows Mobile first.

Thanks
Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner, busy working. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if there was a way to check for HardSPL. I'll try out your suggestions soon.

You missed it. Here:
kallt_kaffe said:
Since you are allready running custom you propably allready have a HardSPL installed. Hold down Camera button and reset (pen in small hole near USB connection) to see what HardSPL version you have installed.
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chambo622 said:
Do a bit of reading on this thread (there's a link to a great instruction guide). This is by far the newest/best Android I've ever used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
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That build runs real slow for me. I've only launched it from a class four SD card though. Is the NAND much faster? (I can't NAND yet as I need some features not available in this build yet)

deekjx said:
That build runs real slow for me. I've only launched it from a class four SD card though. Is the NAND much faster? (I can't NAND yet as I need some features not available in this build yet)
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Well, it will run slower on SD-card based installations, if you are running through HaRET, than on NAND-based installations.
You could actually NAND flash your phone and try this out to see if it works out for you and see if the speed suits your needs. You always have the option to go back to WinMo by flashing it back.

SPL 5.xx all downgrading ways summary

Hi guys. Becouse much people in thread [DFT][Updated!#2] HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation do not know, how to downgrade SPL to be able HSPL using, we can resume all known ways here. But, I have no all devices, post confirmations, please. I have got >=1 confirmations from all next mehods, but, use it carefully, it is on your own risc. For any devices no JTAG/XTC method is possible to restore factory state!
1. Two-stage way (worked for any devices only, but for all SPL states including "small" and "big" halfbrick).
Using official update parts.
Description .. in progress.
Links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361577,
Google Translated Unbrick Manual.
2. ROMUpdateUtility way (worked for any devices only, for equal brand/region only, not for halfbricked, but PC USB connection is needed only).
EDIT: ATTENTION: DO NOT TRY METHOD NR. 2. It is really, that this method can work only on any device, but more devices may be fullbricked!
Using original ROM parts (Thanks to Ansar).
Description .. in progress.
Links:
Google translated from WMMania.cz
EDIT> Better way seems original SPL downgrading RUU only - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411904
3. Full GoldCard (worked for all devices, all brand/region, for intacted SPL and "small" halfbrick only, but not for "big" halfbrick). You need Y-Cable (may be simplified - see picture - you nedd 2,5'' external disc usual additional power cable and very chip USB A/F-A/F junction only).
Using original ROM parts.
Description .. in progress.
One way only, which is for Trophy device fully confirmed.
Links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359498
4. Simplified "like" GoldCard (worked for any devices, equal brand/region only, for intacted SPL and "small" halfbrick only, but not for "big" halfbrick). You need Y-Cable (may be simplified too), but you do not need second WM/Android/Linux device for CID reading.
Using original ROM parts.
Description .. in progress.
Links:
Google Translated Unbrick Manual.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371073

Nice idea all in one thread. If you want, you can use my movie about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uctenG08Fj8

Please clear up my mixed head.
I have a O2 Branded Htc 7 Pro. I am stuck on 7720.68
I cant restore any of my premango states and I cant boot to usb host mode anymore. (800b010a or 8018004D or...)
So there is no way to fix my bootloader at the moment right? Official Updates from Zune (HTC Updates or 7740) dont work either. However I have the possibility to use the cab sender togo to 7740, but that is the only cab that works this way.
Help me please what can I do?

After Mango halfbrick
Hi kaemen. Have you tried http://htc7pro.howto.cz/O2ODEHTGoldHTCOEMUpdate2011.cab posting by cab sender? If success, you can downgrade SPL by GoldCard. But, it is for your risc, cca 1% of flashing results fullbrick.
Google translate page http://htc7pro.howto.cz/Unbrick/UnbrickCesky.htm or see all my posts in HSPL XDA thread. Martin

this is seriously bugging me now.
I dont have backup before 7720,
i dont have y cable or anything
spl is at 5.1
now can anyone simplify what needs to be done?

I dont understand why this is so complicated for everyone. I have a HTC Mozart on DFT 7720 and i can easily downgrade by restoring to a stock Pre-Mango ROM. Just plug in the device while holding the volume key to get the multi color screen and then run the RRU Rom .exe and there you go.
Im probably missing something here arnt I?

I get an error 80180048

Too danger
fahdriyami said:
I dont understand why this is so complicated for everyone. I have a HTC Mozart on DFT 7720 and i can easily downgrade by restoring to a stock Pre-Mango ROM. Just plug in the device while holding the volume key to get the multi color screen and then run the RRU Rom .exe and there you go.
Im probably missing something here arnt I?
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It is not so simply. This method can work, see point 2 from my first post. But, 1. it is not working on halfbricked device, 2. it can fullbrick phone in any combination of RUU-Device-Brand-SPL5.x.
Better way seems original SPL downgrading RUU only - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411904

the post written by OP is seriously confusing. "any device only"?? what does that even mean? if it were to say "some device" or "certain devices ony" it would have made more sense. right now im just to baffled by the sentences to even try any of the listed solutions.

bevoc said:
the post written by OP is seriously confusing. "any device only"?? what does that even mean? if it were to say "some device" or "certain devices ony" it would have made more sense. right now im just to baffled by the sentences to even try any of the listed solutions.
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This article is a year old, from the time of the first WP7 generation. Also, several people promised linguistic correction and no one did it. I am not able to write english right myself, this is translated with Google help. But, enough people used it successfully last year. Many recent articles is there now on XDA. I writed here first posts about halfbrick solution possibility without special hardware and about SPL downgrade too. But, they are very old, you can find many recent and better posts here.