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OK, I'm thinking about putting in the new rom so that I can utilize the A2DP.
Before doing that, I was wondering if some of you can answer a few questions for me:
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
2). Which would be considered the best rom update right now?
I have the Qtek 9000 with Boot 1.0, with it's original rom (1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio). I'm thinking of going with the Qtek 13077 176 rom for the A2DP features.
3). Is there anything else that I need to look into besides backing up data and software that I need to be worried about on the Universal?
This will be a first for me. I'm a rom-upgrade virgin. So please be gentle with me.
Thanks.
Love to know all that too.. that said I am running headlong into updating my T-mobile with the UNI_DT_WWE_13077_176_10900_Ship.zip version.
Already updated the bootloader to 1.1
So far things are good..
Charles
Opps.. that wasnt teh right country.. DE
Trying UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe
Country error on that one too.. So going with. SInce my MDA Pro was a UK phone.
UNI_ORUK_13090_174_10300_WWE_Ship.exe
The country error thing is actually checking for more than country, or really not country at all, it checks for provider. My TmobNL flashed the TmobUK without problems, but not any of the other providers' roms. You need to get the three appropriate nbf files from the rom update package (either by unpacking with winrar/winzip or by copying them out of the temp directory from under its nose, while it's telling you it won't work), put them into a directory with MaUpgradeUt_NoID.exe (from ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip ), and run that file. The picture won't be a universal, but one of the other HTC phones, but it should still work.
Disclaimer: It seems to work for me, but if you screw up your device, I ain't taking responsibility for it.
Yea.. thanks I figured that out after hitting the right search. I installed the QTEK version and all seems well.. Other than the fact I cant get Tmobile US to unlock the damn thing. Trying to go through T-mobile UK.. but have my doubts.
If I had known of the Unlocking probems I may not have gotten it yet and waited.. But its so damn cool, I am glad I do have it. Just got to figure out how to unlock it.
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
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No, you cannot.
2). Which would be considered the best rom update right now?
I have the Qtek 9000 with Boot 1.0, with it's original rom (1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio). I'm thinking of going with the Qtek 13077 176 rom for the A2DP features.
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The new ROMs are the same, basically. I love the Qtek one since it's simple with less cabs in the ext_rom.
3). Is there anything else that I need to look into besides backing up data and software that I need to be worried about on the Universal?
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You might end up with your universal totally dead. Do it on your own risk.
Modem man asked
1). I know that after loading the new rom, it's like a hard reset where you loose all your data. Can I use backup software like SPB Backup to bring the programs and info that I have back to the Universal with the new rom?
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qtotter replied
No, you cannot.
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Sprite backup's latest version (5.1 just released) allows you to restore AFTER a ROM upgrade. Visit their web site for the information. I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow
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qtotter replied
No, you cannot.
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Sprite backup's latest version (5.1 just released) allows you to restore AFTER a ROM upgrade. Visit their web site for the information. I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow
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Sounds cool! Looking forward to hearing your finding with the new version.
qt
Thanks for all the responses.
Here's my input:
1). Went ahead and installed the new ROM.
2). Worked great except for a few kinks (not sure if it's the ROM or me)
3). No...SPB Backup will not restore apps into new rom. Had to do everything from scratch. Don't have Sprite Backup. Do tell if you have.
4). Bought the Motorola HT820 and A2DP worked great (except for some scratchy noises when PDA is on belt and I'm standing upright - not unbearable).
5). Luckily I had everything backed up and finally got myself a instruction sheet on how to reinstall all my apps again.
6). Install of ROM went without a hitch...though I held my breath for close to half hour - praying - please don't brick! Be warned....it might.
7). Only thing needed to test is the idea of having 2 Bluetooth Headset devices connect to the Universal on the new ROM and see if they work. Why? One for caller ID and another one for stereo headset. No need to open clamshell to view who's calling (as soon as Jetset get their software to show names and voice dialing working properly).
FYI, the device I had was a QTEK and my install went smoothly. I cannot and will not be responsible for anybody "bricking" their Universal just because mine went smoothly.
Thanks again for everybody who chimed in.
Mel
modem man---where did you get the upgrade ??
where did you get the down load ? what ver#'s is it i have the qtek also
My Qtek is:
Qtek9000
Bootloader: 1.00
Upgraded from 1.13.64WWE with 1.03 Radio ROM to UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE ROM.
New ROM has A2DP and AKU2.
For the ROM, follow the following instructions:
1). From the XDA-Developers Forum page, top left corner, select wiki.xda-develoeprs.com
2). Look for HTC Pocket Phones Title and select Universal
3). Scroll down until you see "Detailed Instruction On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method" and select it
4). There you'll see a link to the rom download link (in #1 instruction).
WARNING!
- Your Qtek 9000 may or may not work after the ROM install. You are doing this on your own risk.
- Your data will not be available anymore after the new ROM install (if it works). There are forum discussions that state that Sprite Backup will allow a backup restore even after a ROM update but I haven't tested it yet and will not vouch that it will.
- If you have a heart condition and you have to worry about money, I would advise you to reconsider updating your ROM. Your heart might not be able to handle the stress.
Please read the following forum sites to understand a little more about it:
A warning that needs to be read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48309
General instructions on the update - might be a little outdated but still good info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Upgrading a HTC Universal (different brands) with a different make ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42992
A general instruction list for updating a ROM on a Universal:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45874
A computer crash situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49266
WARNING - I cannot stress enough on the fact that your Universal might be a brick if the install did not go well.
OK.
On the positive side....with A2DP, I love the fact that I can listen to streaming radio via Bluetooth Stereo Headsets.
And the Universal does run a little faster (IMO).
Hi all
please dont flame the n00b. I have recently acquired my first smartphone the diamond and am very pleased with it. I have read through the threads and have developed my understanding of the considerations to make in flashing the ROM on my phone
I have an early version of the ROM as I received one of the first stock into the UK, which turned out to be grey imports from hong kong :S . I would like to realise some of the speed / battery / bugfix benefits of the newest ROM
however many of these threads are quite long , so i was wondering if someone could do me a favour by succintcly summarising the steps i would need :
my phone is runnning :
1.34.831.1 WWE - the unit is from hong kong i beleive, i have registered on HTC HK e-club
I would like to upgrage this is the latest signed UK ROM ?
If this is not possible can advice be given on going to the latest HK WWE ?
I understand this will involve changing the HARD SPL ?
Additionally can any method provided be confirmed as a reversible process should i need to invoke the warranty ?
thanks in advance for your help.
please let me know if you need any further information form me in order to help.
thanks
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer HK stock roms, they've been posted by tudispin I think.
3: flash
4: should need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
you should be able to flash back for warranty purposes.. safest thing is still to dump your current ROM (search the forums and wiki for how-to), but i think you'll be alright. You can check out my site for step-by-step instructions on how to upgrade your ROM
thanks so far
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
oh but
dump my current ROM before proceeding .. just in case
porkmince said:
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
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yeah you should technically be able to load any ROM... if signed Hard-SPL, then only any signed ROM of course
hit a slight problem
So i am tryiong to HARD SPL. have gone through all the instructions but :
when installint the HARD SPL . the phone screen switches off the progress bar on PC sits at )% for about 20 sec it then accelerates to 100% very quickly within around 2 mins. It say that is is installed correctly
however the phone restarts and i can still see the d: as 1.34.00.00
so the loinex 1.3 has not installed
the windows is hard reset as i then have to go through the screen calibration
any help appreciated
HardSPL is not the ROM, just software to enable the update
once you installed HardSPL you should now be able to install a ROM
hi
yes sorry for the confusion in my past previous description. It is the HARD SPL software update which says that it is installed but isnt
i have not attempted to load another ROM until this is done first
any further advice ?
in essence when installing the olinex 1.30 i get no errors
bit it doesnt install and all i get is a hard reset ?
If it goes through OK, it has installed You don't see anything different in the splash screen- that just lists the basics
To confirm, go into Bootloader mode by holding down the Volume Down Key and at the same time pressing the red reset button at the mouth of the stylus silo. It can take a few goes, but will show a rainbow screen listing the SPL etc, which ought to say 1.30 Olinex, confirming the correct SPL flash.
Once confirmed press the reset button to restart.
ok thanks for step by step advice there
the HARD SPL is loaded version 1.30 I will try a new ROM now
i am trying the :
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
which is signed so should work
mmm even though the phone is synced up I get error
"262" when i try to install new ROM
it basically stalls on 0% for about 4 to 5 mins before it aborts with this error message.
i have searched the forums but cannot see a succinct plausible answer
hmm.. i thought that error was usually encountered with unsigned ROMs...
1) are you flashing with xp or vista
2) are you connected through a USB hub?
3) what EXACTLY are your steps for flashing this ROM
hi there
yeas flashing through vista 64 bit
and not using USB hub but direct connection
I downloaded the signed 1.37.401.3 Europe ROM linked from this forum and this installed fine
the improvement over the old ROM is immense. so far i am delighted by the results.
I am still perplexed as to why the asian ROM did not install still :S
only difference so far is that this EUROP ROM does not have the remote desktop app
thanks for all your help. I am going to test this ROM over the coming week, but unless there is a compelling reason to another ROM i will stick with this
Why HARDSPL when flashing HTC rom?
When using the newer 1.37 roms, you download the installer from e-club, make activesync conn en go for it?
A noob's point of view
I got my Diamond about two weeks ago, and since I'm new to PDAs and WM, I've done a lot of reading on the forums, wiki etc. At first things were quite murky for me and I know what my fellow noob here is feeling. So I thought I should share my experience (or lack there of) for the use of other noobs.
What I Know
HardSPL is needed in order to flash a cooked (non original HTC) ROM. As I understand, it is the equivalent of BIOS for PCs, mixed with a bootloader flavor. You need to first change this section of software first in order for the cooked roms to be accepted.
HardSPL comes in two flavours:
- the developer edition with which you can flash any type of roms (signed, unsigned, original) link: HardSPL dev ed
- the signed edition with which you can flash signed roms (original HTC, and cooked signed). The signed ROM versions give an added sense of reliability since they are tested. link: HardSPL signed the topic name was confusing for me at first
A list of signed ROMs: here
There are more than one "cooks" out there working in teams or otherwise. And more than one ROM you can flash. I did a lot of reading before I chose the one to use, I find user feedback the best measuring tool for quality .
Now for the flashing part
After you downloaded the HardSPL and the chosen ROM, you need to install ActiveSync. This is found on the CDs that come with the device, or downloadable fromo the M$ ****e aaaa site ActiveSync is a tool used for transferring contacts, e-mails and other outlook stuff if you use it, files, AND is needed for the flashing process. When installing, if you do not use outlook and do not like "syncronisation folders" on your desktop uncheck every "folder" option, you will be better off.
This site was very useful to me since it gave a detailed description flashing with visual documentation which (a bit uncomfortable to admit) was very helpful for me.
The HardSPL flash takes little time to complete and unless going into bootloader mode (vol down + soft reset) is completely transparent to the user.
The ROM flash takes longer 10 mins - they go by pretty slowly .
For safety reasons, I also downloaded an original HTC ROM just in case.
Because the flashing process once started SHOULD NOT be stopped there are a few things to consider:
- charge the battery
- firmly and directly (no hubs) plug the USB cable into computer and device.
- if you live in an area where power cuts are often consider doing the flashing on an UPS-enabled computer.
When the flashing finishes, the device will reboot and you will have to set-up again. If using TLRs ROM do not panic if you have to align the screen 6 times or so as I did. You will eventually get to the next step
What I don't know or am not sure of:
- when using signed HardSPL can I load an original HTC signed ROM? if so, is this enough in case of RMA issues?
- when reflashing with a newer/different ROM can I restore a back-up made with the previous ROM? I'm using sprite and I backed up everything, including what registry stuff it offered to. In this case, do i need to reapply the registry tweaks? dunno if sprite backs-up all the registry or just some of it.
Im must thank guys for this thread, i am minutes from going to the postal office to get my Diamond and this weekend has been full of information reading and program downloading, but the only thing i was a bit hung up on was this flashig buisness. Of course i know a lot about flashing ( Right about everything there is to flash ) but almost nothing about Phone Flashing
But i think i will try the version i get now first to see if i feel the need to update to anything else...
Hence my question is rather simple... How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
Reb0rn said:
How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
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No, that is for HardSPL info. To see the ROM version, go to settings - device info and you'll see both ROM and radio.
Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??
Boobuntu said:
Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??
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hello,
are you running a stock rom (phone as is) or did you flash to a custom one ? we'll need much more info to be able to help you.
Boobuntu said:
Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??
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lol if you're a smart kid you wouldve flashed to a custom rom with m2D on it.
Jk. I've had that problem before where i couldnt add programs to the "launcher page" of manilla as well as having issues adding favorite people to the peoples tab.
I would try 1 of 2 things.
1) try a different version of manilla 2d for example if you used version 21 try version 20.
2) BUT i would highly reccommend using a custom rom with manilla 2d. Why? first off we have great chefs (people on this forum who make great roms). They optimize the rom (or basically the operating system for your phone to run more efficiently --> FASTER)
I would suggest NFSFAN who makes vogue roms. He also added other mods that are featured in the touch pro and touch diamond. Cant go into detail here but if you need help flashing to a custom rom you can pm me
intimidatorx31 said:
lol if you're a smart kid you wouldve flashed to a custom rom with m2D on it.
Jk. I've had that problem before where i couldnt add programs to the "launcher page" of manilla as well as having issues adding favorite people to the peoples tab.
I would try 1 of 2 things.
1) try a different version of manilla 2d for example if you used version 21 try version 20.
2) BUT i would highly reccommend using a custom rom with manilla 2d. Why? first off we have great chefs (people on this forum who make great roms). They optimize the rom (or basically the operating system for your phone to run more efficiently --> FASTER)
I would suggest NFSFAN who makes vogue roms. He also added other mods that are featured in the touch pro and touch diamond. Cant go into detail here but if you need help flashing to a custom rom you can pm me
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hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get
Boobuntu said:
hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get
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do a search for " roms "
I got 155 hits with excellent info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=22772941
Boobuntu said:
hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get
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1) You should upgrade your radio --> maybe 3.42.30
honestly the easiest way is to use this utility from htc. This upgrades your htc touch to the newer windows mobile 6.1 with GPS enabled and Rev A for faster data downloads. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=76&act=sd&cat=all By doing this it will upgrade your radio. But note: this is not the only way to upgrade radio its the simplest way for newbies 2) You need to unlock your phone
This is the Unlockerhttp://rapidshare.com/files/113951076/Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31.exeIf you need instructions here is where i got it. Just read we all had to read to figure it out. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=203703) After doing that you can finally install a custom rom.
I suggest this one. Here is a very good and stable WM 6.1 Rom with Manilla 2D aka Touchflo 2D incorporated in this rom/os made by NFSFAN: http://74.53.45.2/%7Eevadmin/nfsfan/Public%20Releases/Sprint/NFSFAN%27s%201.12%20Sprint%20ROM.rarThere are 2 ways of flashing your phone...actually any windows mobile phone for that matter. 1) Flashing by your micro SD card or 2) flashing through your computer via USB cord
Flashing Through microSD card
I Personally Like this method because it works 100%. The usb method sometimes has errors with active sync connection. Basically you download the rom (provided above) and thers a file called RUU_signed.nbh For the Sd card method you have to copy that to the root of your microSD card and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh. Please note that you shouldve unlocked your phone by now and you shouldve backed up everything from you fone/sd card to your pc because everything will be deleted. Now after the VOGUIMG.nbh is on the root of the SD card, you now press and hold the power button on your phone AND press and hold the camera button on your phone at the same time --> keep holding it and then insert your stylus into the reset button. KEEP holding it until you get a 3 color screen red blue green. ANd follow the onscreen instructions.
Flashing via USB cord
If you flash by this method, with the rom provided above, NFSFAN has provided u with a .rar of all the stuff you need to flash. Just unzip/unrar it. In there theres a file called ROMUpdateUtility.exe. open that. Make sure you plug in your phone and have an active sync connection. that program u just opened has onscreen instructions. DO NOT REMOVE YOUR PHONE FROM THE USB CORD AND HOPE YOU DONT HAVE A POWER OUTAGE WHILE DOING THIS BY USB CORD. This method is the easiest way to flash...but easy to me is subjective and it may not be easy for all.
Anyways after its done whether u flashed by sd card or usb cord...it takes a while to start up dont panic. YOu shuold see that screen where u have to align your screen... after that ur phone will perform a customization let that **** run do not cancel.
intimidatorx31 thanks for the amazing guide! If anything, it should be stickied at the top to help all newcomers here. Well done.
intimidatorx31 said:
1) You should upgrade your radio --> maybe 3.42.30
honestly the easiest way is to use this utility from htc. This upgrades your htc touch to the newer windows mobile 6.1 with GPS enabled and Rev A for faster data downloads. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=76&act=sd&cat=all By doing this it will upgrade your radio. But note: this is not the only way to upgrade radio its the simplest way for newbies 2) You need to unlock your phone
This is the Unlockerhttp://rapidshare.com/files/113951076/Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31.exeIf you need instructions here is where i got it. Just read we all had to read to figure it out. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=203703) After doing that you can finally install a custom rom.
I suggest this one. Here is a very good and stable WM 6.1 Rom with Manilla 2D aka Touchflo 2D incorporated in this rom/os made by NFSFAN: http://74.53.45.2/%7Eevadmin/nfsfan/Public%20Releases/Sprint/NFSFAN%27s%201.12%20Sprint%20ROM.rarThere are 2 ways of flashing your phone...actually any windows mobile phone for that matter. 1) Flashing by your micro SD card or 2) flashing through your computer via USB cord
Flashing Through microSD card
I Personally Like this method because it works 100%. The usb method sometimes has errors with active sync connection. Basically you download the rom (provided above) and thers a file called RUU_signed.nbh For the Sd card method you have to copy that to the root of your microSD card and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh. Please note that you shouldve unlocked your phone by now and you shouldve backed up everything from you fone/sd card to your pc because everything will be deleted. Now after the VOGUIMG.nbh is on the root of the SD card, you now press and hold the power button on your phone AND press and hold the camera button on your phone at the same time --> keep holding it and then insert your stylus into the reset button. KEEP holding it until you get a 3 color screen red blue green. ANd follow the onscreen instructions.
Flashing via USB cord
If you flash by this method, with the rom provided above, NFSFAN has provided u with a .rar of all the stuff you need to flash. Just unzip/unrar it. In there theres a file called ROMUpdateUtility.exe. open that. Make sure you plug in your phone and have an active sync connection. that program u just opened has onscreen instructions. DO NOT REMOVE YOUR PHONE FROM THE USB CORD AND HOPE YOU DONT HAVE A POWER OUTAGE WHILE DOING THIS BY USB CORD. This method is the easiest way to flash...but easy to me is subjective and it may not be easy for all.
Anyways after its done whether u flashed by sd card or usb cord...it takes a while to start up dont panic. YOu shuold see that screen where u have to align your screen... after that ur phone will perform a customization let that **** run do not cancel.
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Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?
Boobuntu said:
Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?
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yea if its unlocked then by all means flash to custom rom but ive never heard of CLARO before.. but if its unlocked its unlocked.
The "guide" lol if u wanna call it that is very basic and thers some lil details that are left out but i didnt wanna include all of it or else it may confuse you. I was just like you guys i didnt start flashin until 5 months ago and ive had windows mobile phones for 3 years now. I learned all of this from the htc touch wiki page on this site. And i also read it on PPCgeeks.com
OH OK ill google them then =D
Boobuntu said:
Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?
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By CLARO, are you referring to CLARO SAC, as in CLARO is your cellular carrier/provider?
If CLARO is an app its not one Ive ever heard of for unlocking HTC Vogues and a google search comes up with it being a cellular provider NOT an unlocking software to flash custom ROMs to your phone and the only thing I find close to unlocking a phone and CLARO isnt even for the HTC Vogue but rather a V220.
Detroit Doug
Detroit_Doug said:
By CLARO, are you referring to CLARO SAC, as in CLARO is your cellular carrier/provider?
If CLARO is an app its not one Ive ever heard of for unlocking HTC Vogues and a google search comes up with it being a cellular provider NOT an unlocking software to flash custom ROMs to your phone and the only thing I find close to unlocking a phone and CLARO isnt even for the HTC Vogue but rather a V220.
Detroit Doug
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LOL true.
Claro runs all the CDMAs in this country, and Viva is another competitor,
btw i mean claro by this http://claro.com.do/
and they unlocked my phone and even had their custom Rom which, apart from being slow had a hideous theme
and i've never unlocked a phone by myself
what is the purpous of unlocking?
Boobuntu said:
LOL true.
Claro runs all the CDMAs in this country, and Viva is another competitor,
btw i mean claro by this http://claro.com.do/
and they unlocked my phone and even had their custom Rom which, apart from being slow had a hideous theme
and i've never unlocked a phone by myself
what is the purpous of unlocking?
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Unlocking the phone is what allows users to flash a custom ROM onto them other than the locked, standard ROM from the Carrier we buy them from.
So your saying the carrier CLARO has unlocked the phone? can you verify this to be certain, if not check with them regarding flashing of a custom ROM and check out THIS for more information regarding unlocking and relocking your phone for custom ROMs
As far as you being a "foriegn" (at least to me as Im in the US and my experience and understanding of ROMs and Unlocking comes from use on US phones) you may want to double-check your phones state before going to far
Detroit Doug
Detroit_Doug said:
Unlocking the phone is what allows users to flash a custom ROM onto them other than the locked, standard ROM from the Carrier we buy them from.
So your saying the carrier CLARO has unlocked the phone? can you verify this to be certain, if not check with them regarding flashing of a custom ROM and check out THIS for more information regarding unlocking and relocking your phone for custom ROMs
As far as you being a "foriegn" (at least to me as Im in the US and my experience and understanding of ROMs and Unlocking comes from use on US phones) you may want to double-check your phones state before going to far
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Oh.. no, its not unlocked given the fact that the boot screen still shows the sprint one, i set the automatic roaming thing you said obn other post, its back to normal and says sprint pcs, and wen i upgraded to windows 6.1 a box came and auto installed some sht from sprint,
thanks alot every1 =D now i know what to do
I've read people saying that it is possible to downgrade back to WM6.1 or 6.0 after upgrading to WM6.5. I'm trying out some new ROMs on my Hermes, but I don't want to be stuck with a WM6.5 ROM if I decide that I don't like a ROM after I flash it...
I have HardSPL Olipro on my handset. Say for example I wanted to flash Josh's Dark Winter WM6.5 ROM (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461490). I have the OEM AT&T stripped ROM, and I have the flavour of the ROM I want to flash.
Is there an easy way to downgrade or flash back to WM6/6.1 from this point if I successfully flash the WM6.5 ROM? I've looked round xdadevs and other venues, and the only downgrade guides I can find are mrvanx's SPL guides. I'm sure somebody has written a downgrade guide but I can't for the life of me find it!
just download a WM6 or WM6.1 ROM of your choice and flash it
JR_de said:
just download a WM6 or WM6.1 ROM of your choice and flash it
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At the moment I'm flashing WM6.1 ROMs using the SD card method from the bootloader. Would this still be possible after flashing to WM6.5, or would I have to flash with the USB cable?
You still can use the SD Card method.
Just Flash it
christopherwoods said:
At the moment I'm flashing WM6.1 ROMs using the SD card method from the bootloader. Would this still be possible after flashing to WM6.5, or would I have to flash with the USB cable?
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You just need to flash the 6.0 or 6.1 with ANY method... its a Hermes not a PSP!
Haha - so it's really that simple? I can just take the RUU_signed.nbh from ANY WM6/6.1/6.5 release, rename it to hermimg.nbh and SD card flash it with HardSPL... and it'll always work fine, no problems?
The reason I'm being so careful is because my Hermes is my only phone, and I have no other phone for at least several months Can't afford to brick my only communications device!
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Haha - so it's really that simple? I can just take the RUU_signed.nbh from ANY WM6/6.1/6.5 release, rename it to hermimg.nbh and SD card flash it with HardSPL... and it'll always work fine, no problems?
The reason I'm being so careful is because my Hermes is my only phone, and I have no other phone for at least several months Can't afford to brick my only communications device!
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Once you have HardSPLed the Hermes its virtually impossible to brick it. Also the same methodology and process that was used to flash the 6.5 ROM can be used to flash the 6.1 ROM. So do a search, download and flash to your pleasure is contented.
the fact of it being wm6/6.1 or 6.5 is just the os that is in with the rom unlike computers the whole rom is flashed so the os is removed with it.
Have Fun
Well that's cool
I was under the impression that flashing some WM6.5 ROMs did stuff to the radio stack, which then caused problems if you tried to flash back to WM6.1... As long as you've got HardSPL, is this not a problem then?
I've done it many times, just make sure you flash a stock OEM rom first, the different compressions used may cause a problem, which is taken care of by the stock rom. After doing that, as long as you have the hard spl, you shouldn't have a problem.
haha.. guess u didnt finish reading the thread on wm6.5
josh was da one who said its not possible to downgrade but at the end of the thread. he said he was jus joking. lolz
its okay that u flash 6.1 from 6.5. it makes no difference. but always flash a default rom first cos there might be problem if u flash directly from rom to rom. especailly from big storage ones
wyeyip said:
haha.. guess u didnt finish reading the thread on wm6.5
josh was da one who said its not possible to downgrade but at the end of the thread. he said he was jus joking. lolz
its okay that u flash 6.1 from 6.5. it makes no difference. but always flash a default rom first cos there might be problem if u flash directly from rom to rom. especailly from big storage ones
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I got a bit worried after I kept on seeing people saying that it was difficult / possibly dangerous / impossible
My problem is whenever I use xda-devs, I always open 12 threads at once in different tabs - then I flick back and forth from one tab to another reading so many different things at once, sometimes I don't read everything in a thread by mistake. I guess that's served me right hasn't it!
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I've done it many times, just make sure you flash a stock OEM rom first, the different compressions used may cause a problem, which is taken care of by the stock rom. After doing that, as long as you have the hard spl, you shouldn't have a problem.
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I was wondering why the 6.5 ROM chefs were recommending that you flash the stock AT&T rom before flashing theirs... Thanks for inadvertantly answering that question for me
Thanks also to all who replied to this thread. I couldn't find a single definitive answer on how safe it was to flash between 6.1 and 6.5 (and maybe back to 6.1 again); I've had a look at the various 6.5 ROMs and they seem to be fairly similar - but do people have their own particular favourites which work well and have a decent featureset?
Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance
syke-0 said:
Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance
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You might want to poke around in the kaiser section, I think the touch is the kaiser. Your in the hermes forum section.
syke-0 said:
Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance
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See this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=461
I have flashed phones before, (my TP2 runs android)
Sorry for the extra post, but I know someone has tried this.
I've read the stickies, there is ALOT of outdated info, dead links, etc..
***Whats the easiest upgrade route to get a stock WM6.0 Kaiser on Android?***
WM6.0>OEM HTC WM6.1 ROM>Android
OR
WM6.0>Custom WM6.5 ROM>Android
Which is the easiest/quickest way to get Android?
NAND or run Haret off the SD card?
I don't need a walkthrough just anyone's quick advice. Espicially, any trip-ups I might encounter regarding the radios and SPL versions.
Thanks
Sucessfully bricked the phone trying using Atools!
congratulations for not thoroughly reading the sticky topic about HOW TO COMPLETELY REPLACE WINDOWS MOBILE WITH ANDROID.
It Requires Radio version 1.65 or higher (which is only compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5)
It Requires HARD SPL Version 3.29 or higher (which is compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5) for the case you wanna flash on NAND
So either way, you gotta upgrade to WM6.1, HardSPL, Radio, then Go to ANDROID. Impatience often hurts. Android is blazing fast when installed on NAND (sys + Data)
So tell me,
Your phone is bricked in what sense? flashing using Atools is risky. I suggest go with RUU utility or SD Card. And I suggest you must consider a lil bit of reading first
Atools isn't a flash tool...
Thanks for the help, and I can sense your frustration. I make my living doing IT work. And, I'm not technically a newbie to the flash game. I've owned the PPC6700, Mogul, Touch Pro, and TP2. I've flashed them all. I've even contributed a sticky or two.
I admit I was rushed. And like a small child with a gun, I took a shot without fully understanding Atools.
Yes, I can only blame myself for my Kaiser's demise. To answer your question, the Kaiser is toast. It can't get bootloader and only has a blackscreen and one green light. Atools wins this round. But I'm not too concerened, I'm in a position where I have a nice stock of Kaiser's to fry before I need to peruse The DEFINITIVE MTTY thread.
Dark_prince, please don't blame my impatience entirely for the phone's death. Don't you think some of the blame definitely falls on me not being a bit smarter than 'ye old sticky thread (How to replace Windows Mobile with Android). Following that sticky verbatim will lead a WM6.0 user to HARDSPL first, and then update WM6.1. Ignoring that, the sticky also instructs users to use Atools, which requires it's own sticky.
In the passing year and a half since that sticky was updated, haven't newer versions of Android appeared with newer methods of installation that aren't covered in the sticky? Specifically, it's not clear to me where to find a newer Android installation tutorial that doesn't include Atools.
I'm comfortable that I could complete an Android-Haret setup running off the SD card, but I don't think performance would be acceptable. I want what you and others have
Android is blazing fast when installed on NAND (sys + Data)
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and I'm not above begging for your help to get it.
Now that I've burned one attempt, I need someone's input about how to proceed. Any help is appreciated....
In my usage case, I'm starting with an AT&T 8925 (Tilt) (KAISER100) w/ WM6.0 Professional. Here's where I stand on attempt #2
1. Cleared the storage on the phone.
2. In order to get the correct usb drivers on my Windows 7 PC, I downloaded and installed WMDC 6.1 UPDATE: WMDC 6.1 Does not install ALL the correct drivers, you'll need to force some by reading this thread.
3. A few toggles of "Advanced Network Functionality" later, the phone was Syncing nicely.
4. I then downloaded and flashed the Official HTC AT&T Tilt WM6.1 Upgrade ROM Success.
I now have stock WM6.1 and radio version 1.65.21.18
Next up, I'm trying to decide which HardSPL to use, and which radio will provide me with the best options from the Android Chefs. I don't anticipate any trouble flashing these. But, which combination of HardSPL and radio offer the best base package for an upgrade to Android? I'd love your advice.
Speaking that, after I upgrade the SPL and radio, how the hell do I get Android on my phone if I'm not suppossed to use Atools? Don't I need Atools in order to create a custom .nbh and Android install package for my Kaiser? If not, where can I find these files, especially if I don't know my panel type?
UPDATE: A Little bit closer.
I successfully updated the SPL / Radio(1.70.Olinex) / SIM Unlocked using KaiserUnlocker.exe
Updated the bootloader to 3.56 Hard SPL nostuckinSPL / Force USB via SD card
Updated the radio from 170.0linex to 1.70.19.09 via SD CARD
For any Windows 7 x64 users attempting to Flash their Kaiser, be sure to have a look at [TUT] Dummies guide: updating HTC USB Sync Drivers.
I should have made a bigger mental note when after I installed WMDC 6.1, Windows FAILED to install the correct driver the first time I connected my phone to the PC in bootloader mode. The above thread explains the process of booting Windows 7 in a special mode, in order to force customized drivers to be installed on your machine, the hard way. I followed the steps until about step 12 (my device manager never yellow flagged anything). According to the thread, it looked like it failed, so I resorted to the next best thing. Keep the phone in bootloader and unplug and replug to different usb ports praying that my "forced-on" drivers would finally recognize the damn thing. Success, it finally did and Windows started loading the Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM Windows driver. Launching KaiserUnlocker.exe took it from there, albiet with one confusing caveat... IN the first part of step 1, KaiserUnlocker will tell you that you need to unplug and replug your usb during the second-half of step one. Okay, no problem. It fails to tell you that you're going to do this "uplug and replug" at the same time you'll be staring at text in red saying DO NOT UNPLUG OR LAUNCH ANY PROGRAMS!
However, unplugging and replugging is necessary in order to trigger Windows to use the bootloader drivers to communicate.