Anyone have the new Arc on Orange?
Is it Orange branded? How much Orange software/games demos have they loaded it with and can you remove them?
Thanks in advance!
dude orange cripple their fones with the crap they stick on them which you cannot remove unless you root, im leaving them this month to get the arc on a diff carrier, but if you want to stay with orange my best advice would be to upgrade or get it via carphonewarehouse, phones4u or mobiles.co.uk, that way the handset comes unlocked and has no bloatware from manufacturers and will have firmware as its ment to be therefore will get updates far quicker
or reflash to the decrypted ROM in the development section
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or reflash to the decrypted ROM in the development section
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except of course you can't flash to the decrypted ROM cos the phones not rooted yet!..
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dude orange cripple their fones with the crap they stick on them which you cannot remove unless you root, im leaving them this month to get the arc on a diff carrier, but if you want to stay with orange my best advice would be to upgrade or get it via carphonewarehouse, phones4u or mobiles.co.uk, that way the handset comes unlocked and has no bloatware from manufacturers and will have firmware as its ment to be therefore will get updates far quicker
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+1 on that.. always better to go unbranded - you will get more updates and quicker too..
well I had no problems reflashing my ROM on my Xperia X10 and I never rooted it. You just need to use the flash tool that is also in the Development section
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well I had no problems reflashing my ROM on my Xperia X10 and I never rooted it. You just need to use the flash tool that is also in the Development section
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SE have stated simlocked arcs will have locked boot loaders whereas sim free ala cpw p4u and mobiles.co.uk ones will all have unlocked or unlockable bootloaders which opens up the phone for further advancement with the devs
Thanks all for the comments.
I need to order via Orange - I have a couple of contracts with them and am due for upgrade. None of the retailers can get close to what they have offered me.
I currently have an Orange branded Desire - hence my original question.
I dont really want to flash it (yet) - so back to my original question;
Does anyone actually have an Orange branded Arc and what have they loaded on to it?
discos7u said:
Thanks all for the comments.
I need to order via Orange - I have a couple of contracts with them and am due for upgrade. None of the retailers can get close to what they have offered me.
I currently have an Orange branded Desire - hence my original question.
I dont really want to flash it (yet) - so back to my original question;
Does anyone actually have an Orange branded Arc and what have they loaded on to it?
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bit too early for people who buy direct from orange, the reason is that they havent released it yet... officially, i think its only available for upgrades right now
Orange stores were selling them from last Friday.
OK - well I'll have my Orange supplied Arc with me tomorrow.
So I'll report back and share the love (info) !
I'm waiting for one as well
the guy on the phone told me it should not be sim locked and branding is questionable, since Gingerbread is new, there's possibility it's not yet branded - only the startup logo..
let's see if it's truth
hnupek said:
I'm waiting for one as well
the guy on the phone told me it should not be sim locked and branding is questionable, since Gingerbread is new, there's possibility it's not yet branded - only the startup logo..
let's see if it's truth
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No way in he(( it's not branded. If you get it through the carrier, it's definitely got the branding!
I should have it today, will keep you posted
if it's branded, I will return it - I didn't mess with flashing yet, don't want to crash my phone ?
ok, finally got mine from Orange (Slovakia)
and the guy was right !!
no logo on chassis
no startup Orange screen
no Orange custom icons
no Orange menu
NOTHING !! It was worth, I saved 300€
Update:
Branded as expected...
-Boot screen
-Orange App Shop
-Orange Backup
-Orange Games
-Homescreen selector (choose between Orange and SE)
-Orange Maps
-Orange Plus
-Orange TV
-Orange Wednesday
-Orange Photo Upload
-Your Orange
Also has some games demos, but I suspect they might have been put on by SE - I was able to uninstall them.
In the (Orange branded) box:
-Arc (with Orange logo on rear) & battery
-USB cable/mains charger
-2 x screen protectors (1 fitted to the screen, 1 spare)
-8GB card (was already installed in the phone)
-Earphones
-HDMI cable
I presume this is SIM locked too... but what's the quickest/easiest way of telling?
(I only have Orange SIM cards in my household!)
FYI - This is Orange UK
wow... so I guess I got lucky - I heard they are going to brand Orange SK as well, but it takes time since Gingerbread's new (Froyo is branded here)
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I presume this is SIM locked too... but what's the quickest/easiest way of telling?
(I only have Orange SIM cards in my household!)
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Find a mate that's on a different network and borrow their SIM?
@discos7u,
I'm interested to hear how the Orange-branded version seems to work. What have they nobbled?
Presumably there's no (wifi) tethering available (which I understand the unbranded versions have got)?
[I can probably then justify to myself that it's worth shelling out the extra cash for an unbranded version!]
Cheers!
mwardm
I upgraded my Orange contract from CPW last week, free phone on £30 pm contract. Ordered the phone last Thursday, delivered at home Friday. CPW are the only ones stocking the silver one which I think looks much better than the black/blue one.
Sent from my Xperia Arc using the XDA App
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Hey does anyone know if any networks are claiming exclusivity to the Touch Pro 2 in the UK and even when its likely to be with the different GSM companies.
My TyTnII is getting very worn down and I dont fancy buying a second SIM-free phone to get the Pro2 to replace it.
i am also (and for a looooong time) eagerly awaiting the answer to this question!
my kaiser looks like it got imported from the classic starwars era, or has just been fighting the taliban in afghanistan, call buttons are just red or green haphazard scratches and the windows start button...lol its not even there anymore!
Mobilegazette have it hitting t-mobile in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Austria and Czech Republic in June.
Orange retentions UK, confirmed it's on their list of coming soon but no specific date.
O2 release
Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
lets hope its not the same farse on tmobile that the MDA Vario 4 was.
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Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
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I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
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I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
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Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
EViS said:
Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
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Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
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Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
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It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
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It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
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I dont mind which network takes it - Orange would be less hassle for me as im already there but I just want a network to confirm it and put it on a coming soon page so i can plan leaving or working on getting a pre-order in
Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
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Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
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Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
HTC Touch Pro2 price and availability confirmed @ Clove (UK)
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Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
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work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
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i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
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Hope this is correct
thats what i got in writing from htc (without any commitment as observation of course). If we compare the time periord of release of the diamond and touch pro it was aprox.the same, so it could be true.
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work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
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Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
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Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
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well the omnia hd went on mid april and its being launched this week now, the touch pro 2 came on around the same time frame and should land end of this month or begining of june. supplier problems hindered the launch of the omnia hd though , was meant to be last week so might have pushed the touch pro 2 back a bit
The Expansys website has been updated to say...
Availability: Normally less than 5 days
I sent an email to them asking if this is the case and when we can expect it to be release.
This is the reply...
Many thanks for your enquiry , please be advised that the Touch Pro 2 is out towards the end of June.
I hope this aint true.
Hi all,
Got a TP2 from Vodafone UK this week. Realy liking the device so far, infact it's probably the first WM phone I have used in ages that I have not splattered with apps just to make it usefull!
My main gripe with Vodafone so far is that the colour scheam they have shosen for the TouchFlow is 'Vodafone Red' with black so the message count bubbles are totaly unreadable!
Anyway, one strange this with this device is that I seem to have lost the ability to use HTMP email format and also the ability to flag messages etc... I have been told that this is a Vodafone 'thing' so that you want to use their email services... So does anyone know how to turn this back on ???
Thanks
Sci Fi
I have a few questions if you don't mind:
Is the actual phone Vodafone branded in any way, or is it just the software?
Also, did you get it from a Vodafone shop, or was it delivered to your home?
I'm interested in getting one from Voda soon, what deal did you get it on, and did you have to pay much for the handset?
Cheers - hope you're enjoying the phone ;-)
DavidMc0 said:
I have a few questions if you don't mind:
Is the actual phone Vodafone branded in any way, or is it just the software?
Also, did you get it from a Vodafone shop, or was it delivered to your home?
I'm interested in getting one from Voda soon, what deal did you get it on, and did you have to pay much for the handset?
Cheers - hope you're enjoying the phone ;-)
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No, it's HTC branded just voda build of the firmware....for now
Got it delivered direct from Voda, Most of the high street shops will not stock them because of their value
No idea on deals because it is on my company package so it works totaly differently
Hope this helps.
SciFi
Mine should have been delivered from Vodafone today, but it has been delayed until tomorrow.
I got it from the Vodafone business site and it is available for free on any tariff from £30pm (+VAT) I'm getting 500 mobile minutes, 250 texts, unlimited internet and unlimited landline calls - or I will be when it turns up!! It is shown as coming soon on the site but if you eing up they have them in stock
Someone on Beasty's "A Dream just walked in" thread got theirs yesterday and it has a Vodafone theme and a little Vodafone sign on it apparently. I will let you know what mine is like when I get it
Seems very tempting, I may leave T-mob for this!
Do you know what the Vodafone business support is like if the phone goes faulty? I know with T-mob I got next day swap-out, and wonder if Vodafone offer this too?
Also, do you know if it's supplied unlocked?
DavidMc0 said:
I have a few questions if you don't mind:
Is the actual phone Vodafone branded in any way, or is it just the software?
Also, did you get it from a Vodafone shop, or was it delivered to your home?
I'm interested in getting one from Voda soon, what deal did you get it on, and did you have to pay much for the handset?
Cheers - hope you're enjoying the phone ;-)
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Got mine from Vodafone yesterday and it is dual-branded. HTC at top of screen and Vodafone at the bottom. I agree on the colour scheme as I changed my Pro to black, but the calendar is different on the Pro 2 and I can't seem to find a suitable alternative - any suggestions appreciated.
BTW, my initial impressions are that this phone is a BIG improvement on the Pro and well worth the upgrade.
Hi
To sum it up should I buy sim free (expensive) or go with Desire on the Three network?
I am due to get a Desire handset on the Three network in Ireland through a work contract.
As I understand it the rollout is currently delayed due to issues loading the Three applications, branding and customisations on to the devices in Ireland..
I am assuming if this is the case, that the handset will then be both locked and branded, also whenever Froyo comes to device via HTC i will not be able to upgrade due to the Three branding and apps.
So to get froyo (whenever) i assume I will have to unlock and debrand, and get the stock HTC rom - is this all possible? anybody been through this?
Otherwise I am seriously considering just purchasing SIM free althought that will be at least double the price.
Just looking for advice on my best option?
Cheers for any experience, advice (maybe from three UK customers)
TC
hi, if you intend to use the device on the 3 network there is no need to unlock it, debranding your phone is also easy, look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 this will tell you how to make a goldcard, once you have a goldcard you can easly flash any generic desire rom
Cant find a 16GB Omnia 7 anywhere, i heard it was gonna be in Germany. Just wondered as wanted to know if i could find out exactly what NAND memory they are susposed to be using for it. If i find out, ill be tempted to remove my 8GB memory and solder in the 16GB NAND memory. If it dosnt work, ill just have to send it in to the service repair centre..... hey wait a minute, couldnt i just send it in to them and ask them to do it for me so i dont void my warranty??
I am hoping that the 16GB Omnia 7 is the one destined for Verizon with LTE compatability.
unfortunately i doubt it. you already have the focus which is pretty much the same inside except it has the microsdslot! so your best bet is to get the focus!
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unfortunately i doubt it. you already have the focus which is pretty much the same inside except it has the microsdslot! so your best bet is to get the focus!
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The Focus is on AT&T, I am talking about Verizon. Verizon has had all the other Omnia's (i910 and i920) so I don't see why they wouldn't get the 7. I am just hoping it will be compatible with the new LTE network that will be up and running in my area. (plus an expandable memory slot )
Well it's definitely true that all the Omnia 7 in germany seem to have 16GB as they are already available in most online shops here. But sadly I couldn't find anyone who has this device atm.
The 16GB version is now widely available in Germany.
Many online shops got them. Some of they say it's the Tmo branded one, but they are still sim-lock free and the only branding that will not go away, is the start screen animation (there is no hardware branding).
Yes,
i have bought one yesterday in a t-mobile shop.
Without a phone plan from t-mobile. When you buy it in the shop it coast´s more than in the online shop of t-mobile.de. There you can buy the Samsung Omnia 7 also without a phone plan.
The Omnia 7 has 16 GB. It is a nice device. Very fast.
No reboots like the user of HD7 reports and really nice display.
I have fun with this device
care to link to any of those stores? i only find them on ebay.
Here are some links. Dont know about shipping though. Just drop them a line and they should ship it internationally.
http://www.handyattacke.de/handys/s...gb-ebony-black-t-mobile-hardware-software.htm
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html
http://www.techniktrade.de/product_info.php?info=p41689_T-Mobile-Omnia-7-16-GB-sw-tm.html
http://www.n1shop.de/a-612-781658-0...WTM.html?sid=f197ed1d37a7ef7ee346adda23dc8078
http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Omnia-7-T-Mobile/dp/B0047UJQJK
You can only get them in Germany for some reason.
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Here are some links. Dont know about shipping though. Just drop them a line and they should ship it internationally.
http://www.handyattacke.de/handys/s...gb-ebony-black-t-mobile-hardware-software.htm
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html
http://www.techniktrade.de/product_info.php?info=p41689_T-Mobile-Omnia-7-16-GB-sw-tm.html
http://www.n1shop.de/a-612-781658-0...WTM.html?sid=f197ed1d37a7ef7ee346adda23dc8078
http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Omnia-7-T-Mobile/dp/B0047UJQJK
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Cool, I just asked about that in the Omnia 7 thread... Anyone knows if one of these shops sells branding free (hardware and software)?
Amazon doesn't mention if it's 8GB or 16GB
There are no branding free omnia 7 phones here in Germany. They all come from tmobile.
But, you can delete all the installed tmobile apps. The only thing that stays is the tmobile boot up logo (max. 3 seconds) and the search page IN the internet explorer when you press the hardware search button. Mms seems to be locked to tmobile so far too.
There is NO hardware branding on the device itself. No stickers, nothing. The package comes also unbranded and tmo is not even mentioned anywhere.
I'm using the phone with a german o2 sim so its not simlocked either. Overall I would buy the phone again in a heart beat if I had to chose. Impressed with everything so far and eagerly waiting for the 1st update
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You can only get them in Germany for some reason.
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Does anybody know if an unlocked Omnia 7 16GB purchased in Germany would work fine in France (language, network, etc...) ?
Thank you very much.
yes, it'll work perfectly fine
arturobandini said:
Does anybody know if an unlocked Omnia 7 16GB purchased in Germany would work fine in France (language, network, etc...) ?
Thank you very much.
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Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Thank you very much I may travel to Kehl soon...
They sell in Finland sim-free omnia7 16GB.
I am using Omnia 7 16 GB in Turkey. I brought it from Germany.
freddy28 said:
Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Would this firmware work oke with the 16GB version? (as its normally flashed onto 8GB versions)
I'd love to habe the 16gb Omnia - my Provider (A1 Austria) does only have the 8GB version...
Hi,
Has anyone received a HTC One X on Orange UK?
I want to know if the handsets accept other sim cards from other operators?
I have mine being delivered 2-4pm today, but its on Orange & my sim card is Three (3 UK). My mrs is giving it to me as she don't want the upgrade... kind I know ;-)
first of all you're going to need a micro sim...then if the upgrade is through someone like p4u or cpw chances are it will be a sim free handset and you should be fine. If it's direct from orange it may be another matter....you'll probably have to get it unlocked or something
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first of all you're going to need a micro sim...then if the upgrade is through someone like p4u or cpw chances are it will be a sim free handset and you should be fine. If it's direct from orange it may be another matter....you'll probably have to get it unlocked or something
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I've got a microsim.. Ordered that from 3 a few weeks back (prepared!)
Its an upgrade direct from Orange.
Hopefully I can find a place to get it unlocked if not...
Chances are it'll be SIM locked - it'll be branded that's for sure