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Discuss the latest news about WP7 and apps here...I'll keep updating this thread...browse the latest post for latest news...
Beware there are bugs and other issue in new HTC WP7 device, Jump to the latest post and read.
New,HTC 7 Mozart video recording Quality (720p).Youtube and download link provided.31seconds of video=30.8MB
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/10/23/720p-video-capture-quality-on-htc-7-mozart.html
Flash coming WP7 confirmed by Adobe...http://wmpoweruser.com/flash-coming-to-wp7-devices-confirmed-by-adobe/
Great news: Free WP7 devices and Zune Pass. 6 prizes each week. Officially from Microsoft. For US users only...
https://microsoft.promo.eprize.com/windowsphone7/?affiliate_id=zune_social
A complete review of WP7 and few apps review...pretty detailed and with screenies(Omnia 7)
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/reviews/2010/10/windows-phone-7-the-ars-review.ars/
All ten new devices...my favourite: Dell Venue Pro
Check here...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/microsoft-announces-ten-windows-phone-7-handsets-for-30-countrie/
Most reviews can be found there,a good source about application of WP7
WP7 Apps: http://www.1800pocketpc.com/category/windows-phone-7-apps
WP7 games:http://www.bestwp7games.com/
72 Windows Phone 7 tips and tricks
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/36413/72-windows-phone-7-tips
All devices spec comparison...http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
More info in page 8 with pictures and specs...
Updates in latest posts...check it out
Browser based Marketplace(english version)
http://www.appsfuze.com/
How to build a WP7 application (for absolute beginner) Video tutorial,is a series like drama,step by step guides...cheers...everyone got talents.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Win...nt-for-Absolute-Beginners/Series-Introduction
WP7 wiki for developers...
https://wp7dev.wikispaces.com/
I recently upgraded to the HTC HD2 and I am very happy with it now that I have upgraded to the Turbo3D graphics driver, Cookie Tabs, and done the performance registry tweaks.
After spending the cash on this device I hate to throw it away on another phone. I will wait till wp7 settles in a bit before moving over.
It really depends on what happens. If it has lots of quality apps, more freedom than iOS, and hardware and wireless providers not tampering with the OS, more than likely. Glad I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year.
Intervenient said:
It really depends on what happens. If it has lots of quality apps, more freedom than iOS, and hardware and wireless providers not tampering with the OS, more than likely. Glad I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year.
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In Poland it will be probably some months later.
I'm eager to try it. But that also depends on what upgrades they plan.
If the plan is to bring those big missing things I'll be happy.
But if not unfortunately Android is the only way.
Now observing and plan to stay half a year more with WM.
doministry said:
In Poland it will be probably some months later.
I'm eager to try it. But that also depends on what upgrades they plan.
If the plan is to bring those big missing things I'll be happy.
But if not unfortunately Android is the only way.
Now observing and plan to stay half a year more with WM.
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have a look...
http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/20...-tipping-the-scales-of-the-smartphone-market/
Cheers.
I will buy the htc Mozart!
The screen on my HTC Diamond cracked yesterday, so I'm going to have to upgrade whether I like it or not. Display still works and hopefully it'll hold up until the phones are out.
I'm hoping that Vodafone have some reasonable tarriffs, I don't really want to go above £25 a month really. Hopefully the OS is working properly straight out of the gate and all of my old WM syncs straight across.
From what I've seen of WP7 so far, I don't think I'll bother.
Saying that though, if it ends up working really well when it's released, I might change my mind
My Fuze is dying. It has had a nice run but really needs to be replaced now. I am not thrilled about the first three handsets that appear ready to be released by att so I may end up getting one as a stopgap and then buying another as the gen II's roll out in Q1 2011. I want the OS to succede so I really do not have a major problem with buying two in three months. I'll give the first to my son.
What I'd ideally like:
1.3 GHz processor
Slider qwerty keyboard
16 or 32 Gig internal memory
8mp camera
>3.8 inch screen
For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).
Cruzer1 said:
For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).
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Hey,mate, what you heard is true?from birsbane here...If what you heard is true,I'm extremely excited now...I thought we have to wait until early2011...
Besides, what I suggest that,you can buy the phone from Telstra outright,but never switch to their network...I'm currently using telstra HTC HD2 NEXT G. The bills from Telstra is a killer....LOL...I'm regret now,plan to switch to either optus or three...but still under the contract...sob...
sylau90 said:
Hey,mate, what you heard is true?from birsbane here...If what you heard is true,I'm extremely excited now...I thought we have to wait until early2011...
Besides, what I suggest that,you can buy the phone from Telstra outright,but never switch to their network...I'm currently using telstra HTC HD2 NEXT G. The bills from Telstra is a killer....LOL...I'm regret now,plan to switch to either optus or three...but still under the contract...sob...
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Not sure, he couldnt really confirm anything only from what he's heard, but like i said, I reckon he's just been reading online news. Telstra is an official partner of WP7, so we're definitely getting it, but probably exclusively through them for a few months (as was with most HTC products that officially get released here)
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Not sure, he couldnt really confirm anything only from what he's heard, but like i said, I reckon he's just been reading online news. Telstra is an official partner of WP7, so we're definitely getting it, but probably exclusively through them for a few months (as was with most HTC products that officially get released here)
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Oh,I see...Ok, Thanks a lot ya...Actually I got a better option for HTC devices, which is Dell lightning. If you love portrait keyboard, you will like it. This device is freaking sexy...
sylau90 said:
Oh,I see...Ok, Thanks a lot ya...Actually I got a better option for HTC devices, which is Dell lightning. If you love portrait keyboard, you will like it. This device is freaking sexy...
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Yep I've seen that, I love the design, but not a fan of the portrait keyboard, plus its abit too thick for my liking and supposedly the Dell wont be one of the first few handsets to come out (might be in the second wave of handsets first half of 2011. I've got my eyes on the Omnia7 which might be a WP7 version of the Galaxy S, and hopefully be released this year.
Only about 8 more days til WP7's official release in london, so hopefully devices will be confirmed then . I'm still gonna hope for the sammy to have a hummingbird processor, or the HTCs to somehow have the Adreno 205 GPU. Fingers crossed.
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Yep I've seen that, I love the design, but not a fan of the portrait keyboard, plus its abit too thick for my liking and supposedly the Dell wont be one of the first few handsets to come out (might be in the second wave of handsets first half of 2011. I've got my eyes on the Omnia7 which might be a WP7 version of the Galaxy S, and hopefully be released this year.
Only about 8 more days til WP7's official release in london, so hopefully devices will be confirmed then . I'm still gonna hope for the sammy to have a hummingbird processor, or the HTCs to somehow have the Adreno 205 GPU. Fingers crossed.
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Haha,yea...same here,finger crossed and wait for my Dell lightning. Hope it won't use the first gen processor...either second gen or third will do...or maybe 1.3ghz...lol
When the TP2 (Tilt2 for me) was released, I bought one the first day I was able. I am running the recently released OEM ROM and this has been the best device I have ever owned. I am very happy with my Tilt2.
There are several issues which will need to be proven incorrect or resolved predicating that I maintain a wait-and-see posture. Some of these will be deal breakers. In inverse order of importance they are:
Rumored incompatibility with Outlook – Contacts, Calendar, and Notes!
Rumored inability to tether – I frequently use the Tilt2 as a modem for my laptop.
Not having a removable SD card
Downward compatibility – will the OS run WM6 programs, or will I have to find/research/purchase all new software programs.
I’m not certain I am ready to give up my hard keyboard yet. I’d like to see a “TP7” – something with a hard keyboard, and larger CPU and display.
I will be cautiously researching these issues for remedies or suitable work-arounds prior to investing in this technology.
Dave
XATAGuy said:
When the TP2 (Tilt2 for me) was released, I bought one the first day I was able. I am running the recently released OEM ROM and this has been the best device I have ever owned. I am very happy with my Tilt2.
There are several issues which will need to be proven incorrect or resolved predicating that I maintain a wait-and-see posture. Some of these will be deal breakers. In inverse order of importance they are:
Rumored incompatibility with Outlook – Contacts, Calendar, and Notes!
Rumored inability to tether – I frequently use the Tilt2 as a modem for my laptop.
Not having a removable SD card
Downward compatibility – will the OS run WM6 programs, or will I have to find/research/purchase all new software programs.
I’m not certain I am ready to give up my hard keyboard yet. I’d like to see a “TP7” – something with a hard keyboard, and larger CPU and display.
I will be cautiously researching these issues for remedies or suitable work-arounds prior to investing in this technology.
Dave
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The internet tether function already confirmed here,It'll not available at launch,but it'll add in via update...
http://www.wmexperts.com/director-windows-phone-7-confirms-tethering-support
as soon as verizon releases a htc wp7 with a keyboard and a big touch screen ill be getting one
My Tilt needs to be put to rest, I plan to get the HTC Mondrian. Even though I was expecting better specs, such as a newer processor and front facing camera, the phone is a major upgrade from my current one. I do remove my SD card a lot, but not having one is something I can deal with and same with the amount of storage. But overall, I'm looking forward to the phone and OS.
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For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).
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Cruzer,
At least you have Telstra Staff that are reading and know about these phones! Here in Brisbane it's shocking. They either know about them and have been told not to tell anyone about them or they just plain don't know anything!
I even had one guy in the City Store plain out lie to me cause he had know idea at all, saying Nokia had a model coming (N8) which was what Telstra was stocking at launch and that all current WinMo 6.5/6.1 phone could get an update. LOL! Just told him he had no idea and walked off!
-Lucus
Anyone hear anything besides CDMA coming in Q1 ? I've been following all day nothing so far on any new models or anything on brands.
I've seen a bunch of phones but, all that Anroid crap... (sorry fanboys, I'm not a fan)
Did anyone else see anything ?
Nothing really new.
When an MS rep was questioned, he did say something like (I'm paraphrasing), "We're saving some news for a later date. Only if there was an event coming up dedicated to mobile devices in Barcelona, Spain where we could talk about this..."
Making a not so thinly veiled reference to the Mobile World Congress starting on February 14th.
I honestly didn't think there was anything exciting at CES. Dual core is nothing without the apps to back it up. As a former Android user, I didn't find anything interesting. Maybe that is because T-Mobile didn't announce a superphone and I will not break my contract.
They will drop a couple devices in February. Maybe in Spain.
Than again, sometime in the Fall.
Yea, nothing good, it sucks to be honest with ya.... It's not over yet (later date ?) but, I guess we'll see.
We CDMA people have to wait till Feb before we hear anything about a CDMA WP7 ? I feel like one of those (you know who you are) Verizon iPhone people, just waiting and waiting....
I'll have to admit, some of those Android phones looked nice just only if they had WP7 on them, it would be great.
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Yea, nothing good, it sucks to be honest with ya.... It's not over yet (later date ?) but, I guess we'll see.
We CDMA people have to wait till Feb before we hear anything about a CDMA WP7 ? I feel like one of those (you know who you are) Verizon iPhone people, just waiting and waiting....
I'll have to admit, some of those Android phones looked nice just only if they had WP7 on them, it would be great.
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It is over on Sunday (I think) and there are still companies that need to present. I believe that Sprint has yet to present knowing that AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon already presented.
Someone said that the HTC Trophy is coming very soon. Just passed the FCC with Verizon's banding.
But all of the Android phones have skins. Oddly enough, only one of them had Gingerbread and it is not even on a US carrier anytime soon.
I am not sure if there is anything new - as in the case you haven't yet heard of - coming on MWC, MS has a single stand at the event.
i was really expecting some aha announcements from balmer and his team. just some rattling on about nothing really, ahem xbox this and that. he's really looking old and tired now.
really expecting to see some cool innovations. maybe those projector phones with 12 hour batteries and lte connectivity ? well, no.
of course there are android phones everywhere (ya i'm a big fan) but expected more there also. one dual core phone. well, ok. if i get my nexus one, g2, g1, and wifes g2 all together, i'll have 4 cores really close to each other. woooo-p.
tell the truth i'd get more excited if there was some shazam new battery tech announced that let a badass smartphone run for a week on a charge that i'd be if there was a quad core handset.
tablets, good lord tablets everywhere ! and honeycomb is really going to be tailored specifically for tablets. sweet. nice to see a company making a specific OS for tablets.
things that aren't selling me:
tablets (too big for phoning, too small for real computing)
front facing cameras
barely usable batteries
gee-wiz dual cores/quad cores
kick stands
anything that isn't a micro-usb (c'mon already, standards!)
things taht would get me hot to buy:
LTE (the upgrade to this g2 with 6-7Mbps is pretty smokin fast, i want more though)
led projector, HD quality
720p that rivaled the iphone's (their stuff is really, really , really good)
a week long battery
waterproof
drop proof
canadariot2312 said:
Someone said that the HTC Trophy is coming very soon. Just passed the FCC with Verizon's banding.
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Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
I'd rather have the Pro 7 (yea, the one Sprint is getting), I was hoping for something else on Verizon than just the Trophy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, after 1 billion planned and millions so far spent on adveristing for WP7, Verizon and Sprint will not come to market with just 1 device each.
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tell the truth i'd get more excited if there was some shazam new battery tech announced that let a badass smartphone run for a week on a charge that i'd be if there was a quad core handset.
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I want every year to hear some magical new battery that is taking over that will go from hours of use to 100's of hours of use but, nothing ever comes up. Yea, let me get a Quad core CPU on a phone that only gets 1.5 hours talk time, YEA !!!!!
Out of all the stuff they come up, they can't solve a simple battery problem ? WTF ???
DavidinCT said:
Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
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http://www.wpcentral.com/verizon-wins-trophy-verizon-s-1st-wp7-device-may-have-passed-fcc
DavidinCT said:
Where did you read "The Entry level WP7 device" AKA HTC The Trophy just passed FCC banding ??
If it just got passed, it could be a few months before anyone sees it... Not sure I want the Trophy anyway, it's the lowest end model out of all current WP7 phones...
I'd rather have the Pro 7 (yea, the one Sprint is getting), I was hoping for something else on Verizon than just the Trophy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, after 1 billion planned and millions so far spent on adveristing for WP7, Verizon and Sprint will not come to market with just 1 device each.
I want every year to hear some magical new battery that is taking over that will go from hours of use to 100's of hours of use but, nothing ever comes up. Yea, let me get a Quad core CPU on a phone that only gets 1.5 hours talk time, YEA !!!!!
Out of all the stuff they come up, they can't solve a simple battery problem ? WTF ???
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simple? if it was so simple why wouldn't you or anyone else for that matter do it? I guess its because im an engineer and i know science that i find this statement ridiculous. Lithium is the best element for energy storage and that is already being used. This is because lithum's desire to give elections away on it outer shell (hydrogen ist because it is hofbrincl). It is really going to be hard to find something else that can work better than this. Battery cell architecture enhancements are they best way to go with this route until some kind of reaction proves better, but that can only go so far. my point, it is hard, and a new approach to energy storage will have to be solved for it to really get better so i'd quit expecting something.
ok enough of the science lesson, I was also kind of disappointed in CES. Honestly I might of gone back to andriod if there was a LTE, dual core, sim card based, high res, 8 mp with FF VGA camera, 4.3 in phone that had excellent 4G coverage and 2.3 on it but noting announced met that criteria.
I was also hoping MS would drop the flash surprise or extended limited multitasking abilty but that also failed to happen. Basically what I heard from MS was exactly what everyone already knew. Some apis that allow certian types of services (streaming music apis, chat, etc) to preform in the backgroud would of been great.
i'm walking away from CES like eh, but eventually an LTE tablet might be in my future.
The Gate Keeper said:
http://www.wpcentral.com/verizon-wins-trophy-verizon-s-1st-wp7-device-may-have-passed-fcc
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Thanks,
The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
The Trophy just passed the FCC yesterday. The HTC Pro 7 (the other CDMA "7" phone) passed the FCC 10/25/2010 and is still not here.
If someone is counting on getting it very soon, I would be shocked.
jz9833 said:
simple? if it was so simple why wouldn't you or anyone else for that matter do it?
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Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/sprints-htc-7-pro-cdma-windows-phone-7-pictured
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i'm in australia so i have the trophy already. it's decent. takes nice day photos, and good feel in the hands. would like to see the 7 Pro in australia though.
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The HTC Pro 7 the one thought, I could not find any actual proof of it going to Sprint, the only way we know the Trophy is going to Verizon because they offered it to MS Employees.
The Trophy just passed the FCC yesterday. The HTC Pro 7 (the other CDMA "7" phone) passed the FCC 10/25/2010 and is still not here.
If someone is counting on getting it very soon, I would be shocked.
Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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from a simple stand point i can see your stance, but once you know the technology it makes since. Solar energy is actually the leading cause for the push in energy storage, but maybe cell phones will help push that.
What i honestly think is going to happen id the evolution of the power mat from Duracell. When the guy who invented it was still at MIT and proposing this tech he also stated in the future it would be possible to get rid of the mat and transmit power OTA. This would be a future with no batteries in cell phones thus making them the slimiest they could possibly be. However what happens when you are too far away from the tower emitting power.
This is all just FYI stuff, but if you are interested in the future of batteries this is the answer.
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Dude, calm down... I was kidding with that... We've only been with the same battery tech for 5-10+ years now ? I'm sure someone came up with something by now. I know it's not simple by any means, it just sucks that no one has solved it. Not even any proto-types or rumors, that dead on this subject.
Pretty soon, something is going to have to happen, phones get faster, need more power, phones get bigger for bigger batteries...Sounds like we are going backwards to me...
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Could be interesting... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-talk-charging-ahead
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Could be interesting... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=earth-talk-charging-ahead
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Yea, very interesting, if it ever comes out, I read about that like almost a year ago, as it could hold the power, the possable problems coming out (to the world) could be really bad.
As for wireless power, cool but, at what cost? As I think about this more, someone has to pay for the power and no one is going to give power away for free. So a power system off of a tower someplace ? Never will happen, there are too many companies making money off the grid and they would never let it happen, even for small devices.
It's a nice idea over all, to have a longer range "power mat" type of system, one in your home, one in your car, one in your office so you can limit your breaks of constant power (kind of like plugging it in when your in those locations) but, then you go back to the battery tech. Try recharging your battery 5-10 times a day or more (going between locations) how long do you think your battery would last (after discharge and recharge 100's of times more a month) ????
Anyway, for Verizon cusomers... a Press statement or "event" coming on Tuesday... Said, releases, so maybe WP7 along with the iPhoney.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/verizon-holding-event-tuesday-in-nyc-but-for-what/
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front facing cameras
gee-wiz dual cores/quad cores
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Thank god I am not alone with this. Front facing cameras are basically dead. Some old Windows Mobile devices had them, but I don't think anyone ever used them.
I am waiting for Microsoft to make dual core fully optimized for dual core, it might happen 2012 though. I could wait on that.
And for data speed, I would rather wait for HSPA+ (the one with a peak of 42 mpbs) on a WP7 devices, only because I have no plans of switching carriers (all carriers work here, so doesn't really matter which one I use). LTE is pretty cool and it is available in my area.
im amazed that there has been little to no news about the phones coming not even a single verizon wp 7 caught in the wild or anything usually something would have leaked by now ..whats the hold up ? are they putting 4 g on the wp 7 devices ? starting to get worried now because my htc touch pro 2 is beginning to act up and not hold charge for long and im getting tired of the lag and occassional freezing . I was holding out for wp7 but they have the iphone 4 coming in february and the 4g android phones with a front facing camera in march . How is wp7 even gona stand a chance against those odds ? anybody else out there in the same boat as me?
They really need to step it up, I agree. The hardware of the current phones is not exciting at all. The OS is extremely quick, no complaints there, but people like us want spec sheets to be full.
Not to mention this:
http://mobilitydigest.com/verizon-o...m_campaign=Feed:+FuzeMobility+(Fuze+Mobility)
I wouldn't expect a WP7 device until Spring time or later.
Get an iphone, you'll actually have a chance of getting support from Microsoft.
i didnt want to go iphonebut i just played with a ipod touch with the front facing camera using skype and its amazing...wow and ive always been a long time apple hater.....i dont even know if i can geta phone without a front facing camera anymore after that experience
Come on verizon, get a WP7 before you get the iCrap
I've just about finally convinced myself that eyePhone will be what I get.. its a bitter pill.. but basically I've been kissing my imagio's butt for over a year now waiting for WP7.. I think that is long enough .. especially since the date keeps moving further away...
Not sure what else there is to say.. its pretty embarrassing for MS to see a Windows/Exchange admin with an eyePhone 4 in his pocket.. unfortunately.. its that or android.. ... and if I'm going to jump ship.. may as well get on the big boat.. IMO.
Shame isnt it ?
I too am getting tired of waiting, but I would switch to AT&T before getting the iphone. I really want a WP7, so if I don't hear anything a little more concrete at MWC about CDMA phones, I may have to switch to AT&T to get the focus.
waycoolkennel said:
I've just about finally convinced myself that eyePhone will be what I get.. its a bitter pill.. but basically I've been kissing my imagio's butt for over a year now waiting for WP7.. I think that is long enough .. especially since the date keeps moving further away...
Not sure what else there is to say.. its pretty embarrassing for MS to see a Windows/Exchange admin with an eyePhone 4 in his pocket.. unfortunately.. its that or android.. ... and if I'm going to jump ship.. may as well get on the big boat.. IMO.
Shame isnt it ?
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I'm defecting from WinMo to the Thunderbolt. I HATE THE IMAGIO! I have to hard reset it at least 3x a day and it can't handle threading more than 200 text messages anymore. I feel like i've waited SO long for WP7, but if they can't get it together by now, why should I sacrifice my LAST VERIZON EARLY UPGRADE for obsolete hardware and a brand new OS that may or may not even be relevant after WP8 comes and MS won't allow upgrades on WP7 hardware?
does anyone know when a windows phone 7 will be comming out for verizon? Since April 15th for the trophy has passed is there another expected date? I've been holding out but can't wait much longer as my TP2 isn't doing well.
Is there any way I can put the Arrive on Verizon? I did this on my TP1 and it was a bit of a pain but worked. Is there any way to do something similar with the Arrive?
I HATE sprint and AT&T and really don't want to switch but I might be forced to for a few months until Verizon finally rollsout with WP7.
I basically asked the same question a couple weeks ago over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035713, and got the same number of replies that you've had so far.
get an iPhone while you wait, sell for profit if/when that wp7 device drops?
hopmedic said:
I basically asked the same question a couple weeks ago over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035713, and got the same number of replies that you've had so far.
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I was talking to a Verizon associate at one of those mall booths about a week ago, asking the same question. It was comical what I heard from this guy. He basically was unaware of WP7...completely oblivious to it. He was equating it to Windows Mobile and said they already had if the last 2 years. I tried to insert a "but" but I couldn't politely help him to know what WP7 is. So I nodded my head just long enough to make a dignified break away from the conversation and carry on about my business, never to ask that question again of a Verizon associate...lol.
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I was talking to a Verizon associate at one of those mall booths about a week ago, asking the same question. It was comical what I heard from this guy. He basically was unaware of WP7...completely oblivious to it. He was equating it to Windows Mobile and said they already had if the last 2 years. I tried to insert a "but" but I couldn't politely help him to know what WP7 is. So I nodded my head just long enough to make a dignified break away from the conversation and carry on about my business, never to ask that question again of a Verizon associate...lol.
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I had a similar experience. First, I'd filled out a Verizon customer service questionnaire, and complained about WP7 not being out. Then a manager of a corporate store called me, took down my complaint, I told him dates of when the MS offer expired each time it was updated, and told him that I'd switched to Sprint because I wanted WP7 but was forced to switch back because I couldn't have a conversation without dropping the call. He said I may hear back from a district manager (I let him know that my issue isn't with a store, but corporate).
A week or two later, I was out and about, stopped at a non-corporate store, as it was the day that the latest rumor said the phone would be out. I asked about WP7, and one associate said "we don't have Windows Phones." I said, yes, you do - here's my Verizon Touch Pro 2 - but I want Windows Phone 7. They told me they aren't going to have one. I told them of the Trophy, and one associate went to look it up, and he said he didn't see it on "coming soon" so he's not sure what it is. I couldn't believe it. I would expect that the people selling the phones would know as much as I could find on the internet, but alas, I guess my expectations are too high.
I know it's no consolation given that we have no idea when it will come out on Verizon, but if it makes a difference to you, it looks like there will at least be a choice between two phones, not just the Trophy. Latest rumor says that HTC Pro7 is coming to VZW, but doesn't say when: http://bit.ly/dEKU5Z
I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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Welcome to my world.....it's only been 5 months now of doing that.... I'm about to give up and try AT&T for a while...that HD7s is going to be sweet (HD7 with a Super LCD display).
Latest word is May 5th (next week) for me it's VZW or the HD7s what ever comes first...sick of this bull****....
There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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that, and the tidal wave of disgruntled Att customers coming over for blazing fast iphone4s on vzw....
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I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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Yes, all of my WM phones have had the slide-out as well, and you're not the only one googling VZW and WP7 every day. We should start a support group.
I don't know about June 30 - I haven't seen anything with that date, other than MS saying first half of 2011. I know I'm getting more disgruntled with VZW by the day, and surely don't want to wait that long. Unfortunately, they're the only ones who provide good enough coverage. I look out the window, across the parking lot to see my pastor standing outside the church so he can talk on his ATT phone. I'm just not willing to do that.
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There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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It's the other way around. Verizon screwed MS with the Kin by overcharging for the plans.
I have two bones to pick, one with MS, and one with Carriers:
First, MS promised small intermittent updates, and major updates at least once a year. For the most part they have delivered, in theory. We saw Mango around October of last year. Woohoo, it was great, started to fill the gap, but still left us wanting. We all eagerly anticipated what MS had up its sleeve next.
The same month they release a fitly update, 7.10.7740.16, that didn't really do much of anything, low and behold, ATT never rolled that one out....go figure....
There was a massive keyboard disappearing bug (which I never experienced thank god), that it took them 3 months to fix with 7.10.8107.79. Luckily this fixed my gmail sync issue, so that was nice. LTE support is a bonus, if you happen to be in one of the few areas ATT has such a service, no luck for me though. Again, ATT didn't bother with this one, so I had to manually push it.
We start finally hearing some details about Tango in March. Come to find out, its really just an MS push into emerging markets, and really won't add anything new except for some additional SMS capabilities. This update starts to roll out in June. If it were up to ATT, i would still be running 7720, a full three versions, and 9 months old. Not with the help of XDA though....
Its not that I really need the updates, again, they don't really do anything, the change log list is either incredibly omissive or simply childish in length. its the principle. You promised me updates, I want them dammit! And I want them now! Preferably with some actual updates....that is....How about MS and Nokia get together and work towards fixing this shoddy camera quality you shipped the Lumia with??? People might actually appreciate that work....
Now to WP8. MS totally screws us with this, as all we are ending up getting is an ugly home screen update....Thanks a lot, my 3 month old Lumia salutes you, as does its infantile ATT 2 year contract. But you stuck with your promise, a major update once a year. Looks like we will be seeing Apollo around when Mango was shipped last year. Guess we can't argue with that logic...
Could be worse I suppose. I could have an Android device with a 9 month and standing promise to update to ICS.....o that's right....that's exactly what I have with ATT.....bah humbug....except ATT hasn't actually promised any updates at all, and customers will probably never see Tango. At least we can look on the bright side, the updates don't actually do anything anyway, so no harm no foul, right?
Anyway, in a total of the 9 months since MS officially released Mango, we have gotten 3 quasi-widely pushed updates, so long as you are not an ATT customer that is (ok MS seems to be doing what they promised), however, in said time, the only real additions were two bug fixes and some SMS bull. 9 months in the making.....really??? Granted they must be spending a lot of resources on WP8, and its great that they are developing the platform and pushing it further, but how does that help me???? Absolutely in no way shape or form.
For comparison (and simply that) ICS was released right along with Mango, and they have rolled out three updates (unlike MS these actually did things and improved the OS substantially), and are now on a major refresh after 9 months, Jelly Bean. My comparison ends there.....
And what about the Carriers??? I took me a total of 10 minutes a piece to deliver myself each of the updates we have gotten our hands on here. WTF are the carriers doing with my money??? Surely not expanding its LTE network, and surely not building new towers so I can actually get a bar or two at work....god forbid...
Androids Carrier/OEM problem is probably even worse than what I have seen from ATT and MS, and Apples updates seems to break more than they fix, but I really feel like MS has kicked us to the curb not only with promised updates, but also with the WP8 announcement.
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I will stick with MS, and will probably use my wife's upgrade to deliver me a WP8 phone late this year, simply because there is no better options. What OEMs do to Android should be a crime, and I cant bring myself to support the tyrant that is Apple, nor jump on its fanboy bandwagon. WP is truly a superior product, even if it still lacks a few bells and whistles. Anyone who actually cares about their experience cannot deny that.
But seriously MS, you are letting us down. Its because of people like me that this thing is still afloat, and you are treating me like a red headed step child. Get with it already!
If you are still with me, thanks for reading, hope to see any thoughtful comments offered.
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There was a massive keyboard disappearing bug (which I never experienced thank god), that it took them 3 months to fix with 7.10.8107.79.
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Lucky you.
First gen here. I experience that bug every day and MSFT/AT&T still haven't pushed the update for it.
Still on 7720.
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Lucky you.
First gen here. I experience that bug every day and MSFT/AT&T still haven't pushed the update for it.
Still on 7720.
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More like AT&T rather than MS, I've had 8107 on my TMOUS HD7 since like February.
At&t is supposedly starting to roll out Tango on some of their Windows Phones.
As far as you just getting your Lumia goes, I wish Nokia and/or Microsoft would implement some trade-up program. That way everybody (users and developers) can get onto 8 almost right away while eliminating the complaining and uncertainty that now exists.
I thought M/$ said carriers could not skip more than 1 update....
Guess AT&T did not get or agree with that memo...
The way I see it blame falls on the AT&T death star.
More like AT&T rather than MS, I've had 8107 on my TMOUS HD7 since like February.
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yes ATT has been horrible, but what can one do that really matters? Verizon I have heard hasn't been much better - they are used to A. Apple pushing its own updates, and letting them have their way, and B. not giving a **** about Android updates, because it takes OEMS 9 months to "refresh" their skins.
That way everybody (users and developers) can get onto 8 almost right away while eliminating the complaining and uncertainty that now exists.
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Nokia lost and arm and a leg giving away the Lumia for $100, and then for free, not so sure they could survive another such Apocalypse only a few months later.
I thought M/$ said carriers could not skip more than 1 update....
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if that is the case, there was probably verbiage in there delineating the option to only major rehashes - but seriously, the Carriers have nothing to do, just push it?!?!?!
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Do you have to use the word "end" if you're already using a forward slash to close the "rant" tag? Just wondering
no clue, I am a biochemist, not a computer programmer
The AT&T death star has already gotten the $$ from the sale of the phones. Updates do not create income so it is low on the radar. Besides death stars only want to deal with planets.
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well they didn't make **** off my phone sale, now aside from that stupid contract price I pay every month....