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Devs, n00bs, seniors, everyone. Please calm down.
N00bs..read before you post. This is a big cause to recent drama. I read a thread today and the same question was asked and answered on like3 straight pages... this is not called for.
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
Everyone else please don't fight and make things worse. Help the n00bs with links to forum rules and such.
I make all these mistakes too. But we need to fix it. We are losing our community.
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I'll add to this a bit if you don't mind. Any noobs feel free to pm me whatever the question may be and I will try to help. There is no sense starting a new thread because 99%of the time the question has been answered and i honestly I like to help. I don't have time to develop so this is my attempt to give back to a community I got a lot out of. I may not have your answer but will most likely be able to send you in the right direction and knipp is extremely helpful and knowledgeable as well. I personally don't care but don't post a thread like help plz I bricked my phone in the dev section unless you have a pair of flame retardant pants. Look bottom line is I'm here to help if anyone needs it
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Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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knipp21 said:
Devs please consider the level of readiness before posting a Rom. My fav developer makes his Rom as close to bug free by having about 10 guys test the Rom before he releases it. Doing this would cut back on n00b questions and stupid posts. I love all you work this is just an idea.
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This. It's extremely refreshing when a dev spends good time creating a ROM for a phone. It's nice to be handed a ROM that has been tested and is essentially bug free. I praise the guys that do that, and the guys that stick to their work. Doing it for fun rather than for money.
Of course I'm not expecting a good ROM to fall into our laps, I do like to follow projects from start to finish just as long as the dev(s) are working solely on that project - Like Cyanogen.

I agree about posting ROMs that are fully tested.. but then only 10 or so get to enjoy the ROM until it's stable. It's nice having everyone give feedback because 100 testers is better than 10. But I 100% agree with you, we need to get this community back on track, and we as users can help indefinitely.
We need to remember, not too long ago we we n00bs. I didn't even know what an .apk was. Now I know how to edit and decompile .apks.
Let's help to make this a fun and sharing community again.

oxlong27 said:
Also knipp what do you think about starting a kind of all in one place thread similar to what's stickied in the dev section only a little more recent and updated with an faq? I don't know how many times I posted the gingerbread ruu for people recently. If you don't have the time I can do it or certainly help at the very least. Just wanted to get your opinion on this matter
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Great idea. I'm in a radar class all week so I can't do it but if anyone wants to that would be awesome. I hope our mod will sticky it.
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Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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oxlong27 said:
Ill start work on it tonight when the kids are in bed. If anyone has any useful links or anything in general you think should be there feel free to pm me
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Include the fact you can't use sense programs on aosp roms. And other stuff lol
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Haha ill put that in bold. Hlp plzzz flashed tiamat on skyraider and i can haz no wifi. Hahahahahahah
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Yes, you have to wipe.

Hey guys im not gonna get to starr the all in one thread tonight my son is crazy sick and cant sleep. Ill start tomorrow night, meanwhile shoot me some suggestions on what you think should be included
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Thanks XDA

This is just a note of thanks to all of the great Developers and generally helpfull people on XDA (you know who you are), who have helped and guided me with any and all problems and questions that I and many more people have had.
+1 THANKS to all

i second that..... we have a great community here on the desire forums and some even better developers!
without this community my phone would not be as awesome as it is now

Thirded!
10char

on another note..... woooo i have my first bar on the thanks meter!

+1 here grateful for this forum and the work being done here.

+1 Thanks XDA

me2...thanks to all these roms which keep the phone fresh and new whole the time i'm not thinking on buying new phone just after few months of use...that's something new for me...
thx to all devs and modders!!

I remember a time when I used to play around with my Nokia 5800 XpressMusic at the dailymobile forums and how much freedom it felt. Now that I've got a Desire, it's got a hell lot more compared to my Nokia's freedom, thanks to all the devs in here.

Great help here , can find solution for most of the issue related to HTC desire here . Thanks All

Hmm... Due to my new found respect for rooting and custom roms (and the age of my loved Desire), I'm thinking of buying a Sensation.
Any thoughts/feelings about moving from a Desire to a Sensation?
Cheers
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zedmarcus said:
Any thoughts/feelings about moving from a Desire to a Sensation?
Cheers
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Too late. You should have done so 5 months ago imo.

zedmarcus said:
This is just a note of thanks to all of the great Developers and generally helpfull people on XDA (you know who you are), who have helped and guided me with any and all problems and questions that I and many more people have had.
+1 THANKS to all
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I agree completely - I've been a lurker on here for quite a while and thanks to the info on the site I've managed to turn my Desire from a good phone into a GREAT phone... even though it's getting on a bit now, thanks to custom ROMs there's still plenty of life left in the old girl yet!

This Community is just amazing. I like to thanks the Devs. You inspired me to root and mod my mini pro, my Sisters X10 and my Friends Arc. Keep up the amazing Work!!!

Either this thread is about different XDA, or OP has pink vision.

Terepin said:
Either this thread is about different XDA, or OP has pink vision.
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No, some of us do help people you know

Missed the point.

Perhaps you could elaborate?

This thread was started a month ago, and was aimed at the generally helpful people on here who go out of their way to help others who don't have the technical knowledge that some of the more experienced members have. And although the development on the Desire has slowed recently, there are still some devs who are willing to spend their own time trying to better the Android experience on this handset for others.
Yes, i'm sure it is not the same place it was a year ago, but some on here still deserve thanks for what they are doing.
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some on here still deserve thanks for what they are doing.
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Yeah they do. And the best way to do so is to support kang.
Out of your mouth it sounds so... not sincere.
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rootSU said:
Perhaps you could elaborate?
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Should I describe dev section in past months? Or perhaps current status of Q&A section? It won't be nice, though.

ics developement mt4g (please close)

I feel like we can do a better job and keep the moderators happy while still making progress on pics for mt4g... but let's keep it together this time..
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let's reopen by moving back to general thread see how we do.. I think the desire s port had the most working I.e. GPS etc.. we should start with a port.. a work on one at a time.. wifi is the biggest need it seems for most
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So....what is the purpose of this thread?

to figure out how to get the ball rolling in an organized way again.. I pm'd mars who ported desire s to see if we can start there again.. I don't know if he can or will use this for his port.. or if we go back to the general thread... I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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I just think to much progress was being made to shut down..
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The mods obviously disagreed, so what makes you think starting another thread in the development section was a good idea?
The dev section is for posting actual software...ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc. Not for discussions. That's what the General section is for.

well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
btw, ever think of WHY so many devs are leaving and giving up? maybe it's because people like you are spamming the dev section and the rom threads with random garbage.

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well for starters...
WHY IS THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION????
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Yeah if there is no rom under development this should be moved to general. Le sigh.
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I actually thought one of the ports could start posting here... one.. but it is irrelevant.. I just heard from the mod.. a new thread is going to open from the original OP.. just cleaner..so disregard... and we wait
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i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work

I do have an idea. IDK if you'd agree on this but heres my idea:
All developers from the Desire S, MT4G, Desire HD need to come together to work on ICS. Things would get done faster and we'd basically have the same builds but the developers would independently work on drivers and such alone unless they want to work on 3 devices completely.
I'm just saying this because then the work could get done much faster with developers pulling together. The only other option seems to create additional threads like some others have with different ports but make them completely separate. I do agree that many builds should not be posted within 1 thread. However, I do not agree we should only have 1 thread on ICS. I also agree that people shouldn't be asking the same questions over and over. We could possibly develop some kind of bug reporting policy. The devs could use our help and by us reporting the bugs and making logcats we can further help the developing along faster.

sipher26 said:
i really really hate it how the ICS development ended... i just hope it will come back soon.
thanks everyone for all the your hard work
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What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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sckboy78 said:
What happened was people couldn't wait one damn minute for a upload and couldn't read what was posted a page back. It was disrespectful. Try doing that on any other thread. It would've came if people just had patients. People have lives outside of xda. (Jobs) Hopefully next time it won't be like that. I'm gonna go on cm7 and post a port of cm9 because they are taking too damn long...get it?
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Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!

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Every freaking comment was about the stupid wifi issue, a person didn't need to read more than 3 posts up to know that was an issue. Some peoples kids I tell ya! Read at least the last few pages and get a.decent feel for how the rom is, and if you want a stable rom...then you probly shouldn't flash a BETA rom geesh
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I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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saranhai said:
like i said before...
devs are leaving the MT4G because so many people are just spamming the dev section and ROM threads with random useless crap.
JUST STOP IT GUYS!!
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What are you doing by repeating the same ****?
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marseillesw said:
I'm in agreement with everything u just said bro...and I just got a glimpse if what it feels like to be a real dev...wow...and all I did was share a port I made...ppl need to chill, show some appreciation and relax...most importantly, RELAX!
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All I did was read the comments and wait till it was ready enough looks like the form is down unless.... does this mean no ics rom?
And can't they band a user from certain threads that the creator started to avoid spamming ?
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I'm contacting a mod,asap.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........

why the thread was closed? why peoples are fighting here. Just sit relax and wait for the developers to work or otherwise port the rom yourself, well its a saying that a man is always unthankful

i hate people who whine and complain about ****....
Whiners should FIX the problem.. if they cant, they need to STFU...

PLEASE MAKE A MOVE THREAD BUTTON FOR OPs

We need this more than anything
Looking around xda seeing loads of locked threads and threads asking for help in the development section are just...annoying. And they look bad on the op.
If users were given the option to move there threads to the general section of that forum we could save moderator time and people the embarrassment of a little mistake. It would make sense to grant only the OP this option (and mods) and maybe a report move button that would inform a mod or do an automatic public vote.
This would also allow users with more....neglected forums (such as the Wildfire S to be able to have control over their forum where mods can't due to man power)
Come on xda, let's see this happen.
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Why give members that power when they can simply post it in the proper section
*Ba dum tss
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cdesai said:
Why give members that power when they can simply post it in the proper section
*Ba dum tss
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And how many times have people not done this?
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Just report them and let your friendly Mods handle it. That's what we're here for

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Just report them and let your friendly Mods handle it. That's what we're here for
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Ah but if only the wildfire s forum wasn't so ignored.
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benjamingwynn said:
Ah but if only the wildfire s forum wasn't so ignored.
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I wouldn't say ignored Your FSM has seven fora to look after, a couple of which would class as high activity.
Oh. Also, that's Shen from XDA TV so he is definitely a busy fella!
Do you report often? I notice CTM has said in the very forum that you are welcome to PM him with queries.

Its not gonna happen but I will add it to my favs and check in now and then and try to keep it cleaned
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zelendel said:
Its not gonna happen but I will add it to my favs and check in now and then and try to keep it cleaned
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Being a senior mod sure is hard work huh?
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great

DarkhShadow said:
Being a senior mod sure is hard work huh?
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Almost as hard as being a user.

DarkhShadow said:
Being a senior mod sure is hard work huh?
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Well let me see. Subscribed to over 3500 threads that i get emails update on every day, around 600 pms on a slow day about issues, and 6 hours of cleaning up after people. Thats even before i do anything for my device. So yeah it can be but it is a labor of love.

Do you know how much trouble that would cause? If they cant get it right the first time, who's to say they will the next?

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Do you know how much trouble that would cause? If they cant get it right the first time, who's to say they will the next?
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Couldn't be any worse than it is now. Hell half the time the mods aren't in agreement on where a thread goes. It happens a lot and it has happened to me. I post. Some mod moves it. Another mod sees it and thinks it is the wrong place and closes the thread! Lol

zelendel said:
Well let me see. Subscribed to over 3500 threads that i get emails update on every day, around 600 pms on a slow day about issues, and 6 hours of cleaning up after people. Thats even before i do anything for my device. So yeah it can be but it is a labor of love.
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And we appreciate it
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i would love to see this too. i mistakenly post stuff sometimes and want to move stuff. i just became a senior member and would eventually like to become a mod and developer. moving threads is becoming a must for me. it would be awesome to see what i can do, but need to learn the basics.

This would likely cause more issues than it would solve. Right now the system works pretty well - if you post in the wrong forum you can always report your own thread and ask for it to be moved.

Spoiled Chidren Ruining XDA

I have noticed a rash of rude and uncalled for comments lately. Here is a little advice for noobs.
Trolling or Fishing on a Devs thread is childish. How old are you? 12? They take their spare time to develop roms, mods, hacks etc. and give them to us for free. Making comments such as "This rom sucks" is just wrong. If you do not like the rom, don't use it. Respect is earned on this site.
When needing help, please search for the answer first. If you cannot find a good enough explanation, then ask the question politely. Include as much information as possible. Phone code name, Hboot version, S-On or S-Off, What rom you are using etc. I know some people will tag it at the bottom but put it in the description of the question as well. It is hard enough to help someone without having to figure out what kind of phone they have too. Be polite. Hit the thanks button. It is free and does not hurt at all. Remember that XDA is a developers site. They invited you here to share their work with you freely. Senior members help a lot of people on a daily basis and you should keep in mind that they get tired of answering the same question or fixing the same problem. Being polite and keeping your cool will get them to help you a lot faster and things will go alot smoother.
Thanks,
Venomtester
HTC OneX Evita. S-Off. ViperXL Elemental-X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwleOote5M0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Reminds me of living this out a couple times in real life.
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Ironically you posted this in the wrong section.

I think there's a distinction to be made between children and just idiots...

Wanted noobs to see it. They start here first.
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Mister J said:
Ironically you posted this in the wrong section.
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It'll last longer here. In general it would last maybe 20min= mod lock. But you right Lol
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Sheesh, not another one of these threads. The noobs you're talking about create problems because they never read before posting and complaining, thus they won't read this thread.

I'm a noob. I read it. I really need a social life.
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FuzzyAcorns said:
I'm a noob. I read it.
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See sig line.

we do get alot of these threads actually. we should make a "thread of shame" but make sure it is made a sticky.
since im ocpd i go through every single evita thread every couple months. =) sometimes i bump old things.
edit: decided to go through One X Android Development just now
i like a clean house
i wish i was a forum mod, cause i see tons of threads that need to be moved and/or locked or both, like the threads that needed to be moved in the dev sections that were just closed but never moved, or were moved but still say "Moved: " in original posted forum.
was this Xperia Z rom port please! not moved but closed in case a dev would see it and want to port it?
why do some threads say "Moved: " but still show up in it's original location? back when the new rules of threads with no downloads can't be in dev section many of those seem show up as "Moved: " which seems beneficial as they originally hinted at dev usage but didn't exactly conform to the rules of that section so seeing them in both places might be helpful?

XDA is just a subset of society.
In society, there are nice people, not so nice people, smart folk, idiots etc.
There will always be a mix of all types here, and while venting about noobs probably makes you feel a little better for a short time, the fact is it isn't going to change a thing.
My advice is just accept that it is how it is. Maybe have another beer and everything will seem just that little bit better.

cr1960 said:
Maybe have another beer and everything will seem just that little bit better.
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A nice hit off a bong will do justice also

a box of kittens said:
A nice hit off a bong will do justice also
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Here here!

a box of kittens said:
A nice hit off a bong will do justice also
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You need to unlock your bowlloader first.

I took your advice and I must say..... Anybody know the number for Domino's? I'm suddenly very hungry.
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A topic about kids ruining xda and suddenly everyone is talking about smoking weed. Absolutely stunning.
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Just horrible that devils weed
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ECEXCURSION said:
A topic about kids ruining xda and suddenly everyone is talking about smoking weed. Absolutely stunning.
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This.

I never said kids were ruining xda. I'm talking about childish behavior. Kinda like what we are doing now. Everybody drinking and smoking. Cats and dogs living together. Just plain craziness.
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Cats suck.