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Just a forum tip

I think the development section after selecting it should then have sections for EACH version rom. ie. Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS.
So that when you are looking at what is being developed you are not diluted with newer releases of older versions when you are really trying to find the best of a specific version.
This would allow it to be more organized.

+1 Would save a lot of confusion for noobs as well. Specific mods for specific version go in that section and so on and so forth .. yeah. Like it.

well there is only gingerbread and ICS, some mods are universal so you would have to post twice? and would you split up the theme and apps section too?

Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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People have trouble following the current organizational scheme

shovelhead83 said:
Good idea. Truth is though just more places for non readers to post in the wrong sections.
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Like how this topic is in the wrong section.
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This idea is irrelevant because all people have to do is read. Even if the Title doesn't say the firmware version, the OP will 9 times out of 10.
The thought is good, but in reality.....nah bro
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Why the hell not? Even if the
OP does contain the firmware version, it would stop a lot of the confusion for the noobs that don't read. As for people that DO read, it would be convenient to go in a section with, say, just ICS ROMs, to check out the latest goodies instead of having to look through all the GB ROMs and other things that aren't ICS related.
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If people don't read And flash and destroy....it's their fault.. There are already "please read if you're new" posts or "if you're new to ICS" posts. If people are lazy and disregard proper guided precautions to help inform everybody before they start messing with expensive phones....then a bricked phone is what you'll get.
I don't cater to the weak and lazy.
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If this was implemented does anyone want to start a pool on how long it will take before a dev gets flamed for not posting in the right section

Funny thing is the noob want to jump straight in and flash and screw things up then freak out then read lol
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This Nobama entitlement mentality gets old.....fast!
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Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.

Jester6 said:
Is this not the way it already is? If you can't be bothered to read a few lines of text maybe you shouldn't be flashing anything to your phone.
2.3.X = GB
4.0.X = ICS
Pretty difficult, i know.
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Oh god this is so true.

Now girls
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I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
my .02

Oh boo hoo those poor noobs we need to hand them step by steps and make sure that everyone has the opportunity to flash rooms! Rom flashing is a basic human right and every American should get it free of hassle!
I say the free account registration inhibits minorities like the computer illiterate and old people, we should abolish this account registration so everyone has the opportunity to post anything!
In fact those poor souls who brick their phones should get new ones for free, I mean the developers get donations so they should spread the wealth around it would be better for everyone!
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Darmokk said:
I think most people commenting are missing the point. Of course its not that important to people like us who come here often and keep up with everything.
But if you imagine the noob who means well, and is just trying to find the information that he needs, this web board is immensely cluttered.
Honestly, thats why you have so many noobs posting dumb questions and asking the same things over and over again. Most people aren't trying to clutter the forums, but when they can't find what they want quickly they give up and just start their own thread which gets on everyones nerves.
i think more sub-headings and forum breakdowns would help a lot honestly. And at the very least give mods a fresh place to police and (hopefully) control post whoring.
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I find it hard to believe clutter is the reason dumb threads are started.
Raise your hand if you have seen someone post a question or news item that has already been posted less than 5 threads down in the first page of general at the time of posting.
*raises hand*

Forums sections are well explained and disclosed, even if people rant and flame at noobs, it is still a noob friendly atmosphere here, the problem also is that devs and senior members still repeat themselves overe and over trying to help noobs and besides alot of members on xda are just too lazy to read, only screwing up people learn to either not to touch or mess with something they shouldn't have mess with in first place, nobody was born knowing all, yet nobody was born brainless, if people screw up after so many threads of guides and how to's lost in limbo around the forums, let them screw up, imbeciles only see the finger that is pointig the right direction.
If stickies, guides and bibles haven't helped, it is useless to clutter this forums with more subforums
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Bottom line is everyone here was a noob...somewhere at sometime. All everyone needs to do is read people with respect and not flame.
"f_ing noob, learn to search" I'd not the way to fix things
Would you yell at a child for doing something when its an innocent mistake. I'm not saying all noobs are innocent...but you catch more flies with honey then vinegar
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Xda members read!!!

I am dissapointed to say that xda has fallen off, it used to be a great community where people could come and learn and others share their knowledge. Now its just a bunch of snobs not willing to help someone instead just bash someone for being a "NOOB" thats just b.s and i didnt pay for something to get bashed on buying this app is contributing to android. Its just embarrasing being part of a community like this idk what happened or when it happened but i wish people would get off the rag and reach out to others in time of help instead of being arrogant pricks about simple things, this isnt a rant its just a persons opinions on whats been happening if you dont like it then f**** off im only trying to figure out why, with that being said
WHATS THE DEAL XDA????
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You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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bfranklin1986 said:
You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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Well of course, and you'll also get a higher percentage of people that don't give two ****s to spend five minutes searching for an answer to their problem and just want to ask away. In the galaxy nexus forums it's the worst because people will ask questions that have been answered when they're on the SAME PAGE as the question they're asking.

most aren't A Holes just because they like to be, almost half of them are fed up and tired of lazy people. It's like working on the same exact issue over and over and over... Unfortunately both parties are right when there are always going to be lazies, and the A Holes. If it's that simple of an answer and I know has been answered/discussed about 5 times or more, I'll just ignore as most will do, or answer by linking them to all the threads about the same topic. Ya it's a little on the A Hole side, but it also answers their questions and tells them how easy and informative searching can be.

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What's the deal with people that post questions that are often posted already? Or even Googling answers? WHATS THE DEAL THERE TOO???
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This story will never end. It's just the way it is. Either you ignore those who bash and move on or do a little hw before posting a question that has been answered multiple times. The G2x section was filled with repeated questions. Personally I get annoyed and irritated after a while.
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As do I! More irritating is when you try to help them help themselves and they think you're slamming them for being a noob.
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my favorite part is how everyone is bashing people who don't use the search function, yet there's like 90 threads that talk about how XDA isn't how it used to be and here is yet another thread about it
The reason everyone thinks XDA is "not like it used to be" is because the developer to user ratio has been diluted as XDA gains popularity. There are the same number of devs on this site as there's always been (probably more, actually), but there's waaaaaaay more users interested in rooting their phones and flashing custom firmware.
No internet community is perfect, and gigantic ones like this are going to have their problems...but the true XDAers suck it up, move on, ignore the jerks, and do what they came here to do. they certainly don't sit and complain about it.

@sisekickSquad817, It can be tough to get answers to your questions at times, and there are definitely users that are nicer about it then others. Here's my suggestion, send a couple of friend requests to the users that you speak with the most. Send me a friend request, and while I'm no developer, if I can't answer your question then I'll probably be able to point you in the direction of someone who can. Just PM me with your question, and as soon as I have a free moment then I'll do my best to help. Soon you'll find you have a few solid friends, and those friends will have a few solid friends, and the answers will be at your finger tips with a little patience. I know things can be frustrating, but threads like this can bring unwanted attention from the not so nice users, and then the mods get involved. Its probably best to avoid situations like that, or at least that's my opinion. Good Luck and I look forward to hearing from you

I've noticed this as well and I've been wondering when someone was going to make a thread about it.
I'll just add my plea for civility. Everybody was a noob at one time.
Back in the vibrant forum everybody tended to be very friendly. Let's try to keep it friendly here too.

You can't change anything, so why ***** about it, just give help to the users who have at least tried to read. Most ALL the answers are there anyway. If you watch, the people who are just looking for a quick answer post the same thing over an over. And in different forums. Saw one idiot post the same post in 5 different forums. 3G user asking questions in the mt4g forum. Moron.
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Good response to the ops question. I'm here too for anything I can help. But all users in xda must really understand that if your going to participate you need to read and and comprehend basic terms or follow instructions. Now sometimes you won't find something and that's ok you can ask. But there is a section for everything and many users don't care enough to see that. This is why the majority of people will be d**ks with you.
Not mainly because you ask a question in the wrong sectionbut because if the answer is obvious to the majority of users than it must be something you are missing. If you know android think of this like your debugging something. The error is clear just for back and start slowly this time.
There's a place for everything. Including xda.
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I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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jnewman1991 said:
I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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As a former camaro owner, I completely agree that mustang owners are douches
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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.

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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.
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I think you just perfectly made the OPs point.......
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Exactly, no point in posting if ur just gonna be a **** about it, if it doesn't belong in this area *****ing about it won't move it. I got my point across so that's all I have to say about it
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Leaving the HOX Forums :( ? Bid your farewell here

Are you leaving the One X forums ? Post your farewell messages here. Again this is to avoid the opening of more farewell threads by individual members. Post your final words here, your wishes, regrets, good times and bad times while you were here...thank anyone in particular and perhaps share some information about your future plans or devices . Credits go to Recognized Contributer deedii from the X8 Forums for inspiring me to open this thread . Again, farewell and take care ...

Dude you got. A lot of threads rolling
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Dude you got. A lot of threads rolling
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My guess is, this is a necessary evil. People just don't give a damn about forum rules. Things are slowly getting out of hand

A bit late for this but here it goes...
I was the author of the mod "One eXtreme Sound Enhancer" (Now Deprecated)
Thanks for everyone who have supported me over this year, you guys have really been a great help. I didn't want it to end like this but I force myself to because of some individuals had been trolling/being disrespectful to my work (*ahem* sammy users...)
I have been thinking countless times on coming back to this forum but haven't made a decision yet...
I really do regret moving to somewhere else but I had to get away from all of this kanging (This guy in the Xperia S Forum...), the XDA community wasn't as good as it was a year ago
Again, Thanks to EVERYONE in the ONE X Forum for supporting me along the way and also helping me when i got stuck, I really did appreciated it
Anyways, if you must find me, you can always PM me for my whereabouts

Another pointless thread in the jungle of threads that xda has become

One plus point least its not another jellybean how do I thread
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Another pointless thread in the jungle of threads that xda has become
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it's not a pointlees thread it's a good chance to see WHY some users are leaving this forum

Sorry deleted, mod please delete this post?
Thanks.

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We have a off topic thread for these sort of posts, these sort of threads just clutter our great forum.​

What In The World Is Going On With XDA As of Late?

I'm sure I'm not the only person who notices, but the past couple of weeks or so, XDA has been downright ridiculous...or should I say the members?
People are so tense. People don't even bother to read. Most of the time, the answer is just a few messages back. No OP's are being read. People are just....I don't know. It's like everyone is on smack or something. What makes it worse, is that the same questions get asked many times and yet, people keep on asking.
This creates problems, because the people who need help cannot find it, through the continuous garbage that's being spilled and it seems as if the mod(s) have gone missing...or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Then, we have the people who hide under the guise of being a "newb" hoping that, it'll give them an excuse, when apparently these same people have been on this site, for quite some time and some KNOW better. Haha, then they get upset when their answer isn't spoon fed to them.
*sigh*
I mean, REALLY people, what's going on? You can call this a rant if you choose, but I feel better now. People, just read....and experiment. There's no reason why you be asking how to use a rom specific feature in a rom. Not with videos and well written guides out there.
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lately????!!??

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lately????!!??
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Okay, well in general. Lol It just seems as if it's been peaking and people wonder why some are getting angry. I don't blame those who do. I'm angry as well.lol
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phreshy said:
Okay, well in general. Lol It just seems as if it's been peaking and people wonder why some are getting angry. I don't blame those who do. I'm angry as well.lol
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It was like this as far back as I can remember...
My account may be new but Ive been lurking for years now

Just the same old same old. Some folks just don't want to get their learn on. The Note 2 threads are rife with it at the moment.
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It definitely seems that people don't tend to have the patience to read through the posts. It took me 3 days to read through all the posts of the above how to build cm10.1 posts and while some questions and posts I would end up reading the same questions every couple page's
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It definitely seems that people don't tend to have the patience to read through the posts. It took me 3 days to read through all the posts of the above how to build cm10.1 posts and while some questions and posts I would end up reading the same questions every couple page's
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Yes, like for instance. It has to be near a hundred times, where PA user's asked "How do we use pie?". It's in the settings. Two clicks man, TWO clicks! Lazy isn't even the word.
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phreshy said:
Yes, like for instance. It has to be near a hundred times, where PA user's asked "How do we use pie?". It's in the settings. Two clicks man, TWO clicks! Lazy isn't even the word.
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this would stop happening if all the "helpful" users stopped spoonfeeding this lazy ppl answers... those users think they are helping ppl but what they dont realize is that they are actually making those lazy users stupider and when they have issues they will start useless threads and start posting usless posts in the dev section... that is why i say either ignore these posts or give a reply that requires them to read.. like when i read stupid question in the PA thread i reply with "either search the thread or read the paranoid 101 thread that is linked in my sig"
PS- honestly if the answer is on the same page that they posted on or 1 page back, then those users should not be allowed to flash roms IMO

This happens all the time all over xda happened in the evo forums when it was popular and right now and has been popular. Especially when sprint had a deal on them. Just try to remember it the Internet... We were all noobs
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k786 said:
this would stop happening if all the "helpful" users stopped spoonfeeding this lazy ppl answers... those users think they are helping ppl but what they dont realize is that they are actually making those lazy users stupider and when they have issues they will start useless threads and start posting usless posts in the dev section... that is why i say either ignore these posts or give a reply that requires them to read.. like when i read stupid question in the PA thread i reply with "either search the thread or read the paranoid 101 thread that is linked in my sig"
PS- honestly if the answer is on the same page that they posted on or 1 page back, then those users should not be allowed to flash roms IMO
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Dude, you read my mind ENTIRELY! There's always that person who replies after you and tells the person who asks, the entire thing. Then, we get looked at as the bad guys. It's not that at all. We care enough about the community, to want everyone be knowledgeable in these things. Think of the people who, after reading, may become developers down the line. They need to learn. How about said persons power goes out. How in the world would they know how to preserve their devices to the fullest, if they DON'T have knowledge? There IS no asking "Hey, I'm a newb and my power is out. How do I set my brightness to a lower level and clock my CPU down, so I can save some battery?" At that point.
It ticks me, because instead of being able to easily find and help hose who need it, or to find out information, I have to wade through countless pages of garbage, just to find what I'm looking for. No to mention, that Tapatalk isn't search friendly. I just hope people will "go the extra mile". Not just for themselves, but for the community as a whole.
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This happens all the time all over xda happened in the evo forums when it was popular and right now and has been popular. Especially when sprint had a deal on them. Just try to remember it the Internet... We were all noobs
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Yes, I have to remember that, but it would be a lot easier, if it didn't affect so many people....and myself.
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Don't complain and then put these words in every post....John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)

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Don't complain and then put these words in every post....John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)
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Your point being? That has nothing to do with people failing to read. Again, this affects the community as a whole. Not just a few people. Haha, in fact that fits quite nicely.
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There's also an alarming trend of people quoting everything from the previous post. I've seen people quote as many as ten paragraphs to add a simple one line response...

R: What In The World Is Going On With XDA As of Late?
Whats going on its inevitable for every forum
because there are 2 kinds of people in a forum:
- people that read every single word in every single post in every single thread
- people that come for the first time, open a thread (existing nor new ) and simply ask a question
Both are not to blame everyone is free to choice what to do in life
But when those 2 kind of users meet, its "war"..and this is wrong, because both will need to understand each other scope.
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Your point being? That has nothing to do with people failing to read. Again, this affects the community as a whole. Not just a few people. Haha, in fact that fits quite nicely.
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From the bottom of my heart in a soft voice WWJD?

Better here than in some other places
I came here from rootzwiki where it was not uncommon to see threads with > 2k pages. I jumped on the mmuzzy bandwagon and when I tried to post I got hand-in-face - I wasn't allowed to post in a dev forum. Completely understand, and appreciated that as well as the rules for duplicate threads and locking threads. So I guess if I post 10 times in this thread I'll be allowed to post in a dev forum, but I hardly ever do.

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There's also an alarming trend of people quoting everything from the previous post. I've seen people quote as many as ten paragraphs to add a simple one line response...
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Who does that?! lol
phreshy said:
John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)
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"If a man's testicles are crushed or his penis is cut off, he may not be admitted to the assembly of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:1

lol op are you new to the world? They are called idiots and they are multiplying faster than ever. They think smart phones will make them not appear dumb but unfortunately it only amplifies their retard levels to new heights. You just have to laugh at there stupidity and use it to make yourself feel better.
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Well in the "newbs" defense a lot of the rom or mod threads are so ridiculously long and filled with hundreds of pages of "wow smoothness rom Eva!" so it unrealistic to ask them to read 1000 pages to find an answer to a simple question. Add to that some OP are terribly out of date or empty of real information.
Not excusing all of them but, don't let it bother you too much.
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[Q] ROMS

Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?

Have you even looked through the forums!!! Stop asking about ETA'S!!!
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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From what I've been told we they are really close, but again they aren't going to put anything out that doesn't work fully so as for a real time frame, when everything works and they feel it's ready for mainstream consumption

Why don't you look in the dev forums. That's where it'll be posted
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...

Enzopreme said:
dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
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It's nice to know that you guys are hear to help. I posted this in the Q&A you know since it is a question. It seems that you have forgotten you were once new at this as well.

Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.

[READ] Stop asking about JB ROMs and anything related to JB updates..

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Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem

Dqm56 said:
questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.

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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.

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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.

jbrooks58 said:
Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses

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Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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I see both sides of this coin, since i kinda just went through the same thing. I understand that he was just asking a question, but on the other hand there are probably over 10 discussions with the answer he is looking for.
But on the other hand, you are newer than me even, so welcome to the community, try to read and search before asking questions, and try not to double post either, just edit your last post if no one has replied.

Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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The name calling is uncalled for, especially when you're taking advantage of the work that these people are putting in. This community has enough negativity as it is, and we certainly don't need any more.
Egos aside we're all on the same team here. Either appreciate the work or give constructive advice/suggestions. Enough of the insulting.
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Also, alot of the reason we only have 2 roms was because we were stuck on ICS. Not many people want to develop on an older OS, expecially when we knew there was an update right around the corner. So it was the waiting game. Now that JB has been released, and the source code has been dropped, this place will start lighting up. This is one of the best phones out right now, and it will start getting attention. So for now, research, read, contribute what you can, and enjoy the ride.

In all honesty none of those thread touch on how close we are to being AOSP, so his question is relevant. In every thread you get the same answer, either "we have already answered that question", "when it is fully ready to go", "were still testing things so it's going to be a few more weeks". I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining, And am very happy with what you guys are doing, but if we had a little better information about what is going on and what the problems are maybe people would stop posting so much.

If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.

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If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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Do that, or msg me at [email protected]. I have most of the Debs contact info, and I usually stay up to date.
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