Just a show of hands basically, because both of these guys keep updating their kernels back to back it seems.
I personally use tiamat 3.3.3, these kernels have been good on my battery, and are pretty fast.
Which do you prefer?
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phonetec said:
Just a show of hands basically, because both of these guys keep updating their kernels back to back it seems.
I personally use tiamat 3.3.3, these kernels have been good on my battery, and are pretty fast.
Which do you prefer?
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I agree Tiamat has been awesome for me...i had too much chopiness with salvaged-zen and i personally like the SBC addition to kernels and they stopped updating it with SBC i saw...but as far as battery life and smoothness goes, i choose Tiamat, hands down.
Tiamat is great, but there is something up with bluetooth audio in his kernels. It's like the audio doesn't use the mic to auto cancel sound or something. Can't really put my finger on it. All I know is that when talking to the fiance after work on the way home in the car on yesterday, all she heard was road noise. Switched back to SZ and today its gone. Gonna wait a couple of revisions and try it again
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MEGA dot. 3.3.3 ia ftw
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Savaged Zen here. I tried Tiamat for a while, but I kept getting random reboots no matter what I tried. The first SZ I used was .9 bfs havs, and it worked great. Currently on .1.2 cfs and no problems.
Savaged Zen All the way. Especially now (this is from march) the 2.6.38 line, im on the newest 2.0.2 and Its super smooth, I havent seen the slightest hint of any instability, and it rips on benchmarks and games
Any Tiamat kernel sends me into random soft reboots, almost once every half hour or so. I can get it to stop by flashing ViperBoy's raise voltage script. Then it runs quite smooth and stable, however battery life sucks for me (probably from raising voltage) Savaged Zen gets my vote, it just agrees with my device way better for some reason, especially 2.0 CFS.
SavagedZen works better for me than Tiamat. Had them both and both worked well but I like running BFS on my phone and the SavagedZen governor is a great governor for battery life and performance.
timat is really stable on my phone, but sz has always been much faster... now that he new sz fixed my problems, im staying with it
I'm a fan of savaged but I'm cool with tiamat, still looking for a happy home. Im on SZ 2.0.2 which is giving me good battery life but still has the BS wimax bug. I ran tiamat a couple weeks ago for a few days but I swapped out once the random reboots started. Wish CM7, one of the best roms, also came with the best kernel.
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Which one do you like better? I'm not necessarily looking for best over clock speed, but actually better battery life. Any ideas?
I prefer kings kernels.. I haven't had good results on nets kernels lately.. cpu stayed at 100% a lot for me..
Kings scales just fine for me and provides great battery life.. I use his bfs #4 kernel.
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I've used nearly every one of netarchy's kernels, but am now using King's. My battery life is awesome on BFS #4, and everything is very smooth.
I actually prefer hero's baked snack kernel 1. It also has HAVS like king's kernel. Standby time battery life is about the same between king's and hero's, but for me hero's battery life is better when actively using the phone.
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
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exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
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Google is your friend. But basically, BFS is supposed to be faster, while a little less stable, while CFS is supposed to be a little more stable (its older), but the trade off is the speed. I personally dont see much of a speed difference, but I still usually use BFS.
netarchy. Never had any problems with his kernels. Haven't tried King's yet, but the way I look at is, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
I'm sure KingxKlick is a great guy and knows what he's doing, but I avoid his kernel because he doesn't actually own an Evo. I stick with netarchy because he's someone I trust.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Unistall voicemail from Titanium backup. Then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7749762&postcount=44 That is the updated Apk for the voicemail. Hope that helps man. And for me I use Kingz and love it. Been getting some very good battery life out of it. And its smooth even when running @ 1.17 oc.
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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hmm, thats weird. I didn't have the problem before i flashed it with the kernel. any info on the 4g issue? if thats rom as well, then netarchy kernel is fine.
edit: just did a quick flash of king's kernel. seems like the 4g issue is rom issue as well.
Kings has been amazing so far, i'm very satisfied!
I have used both and get better battery out of kings by a large margin. I am using the BFS #4 and couldn't be happier. I had the 100% CPU issue on nets last update.
Here is a simple thing for me: When I am running Kings, my phone seems cooler to the touch, no matter what I'm doing. On nets, it get warm, then cools, then warm. Heat is wasted energy.
I think lots of the meat and cheese in Kings kernel came from net anyhow, but I no longer has a need to flash a new kernel. Sticking with kings.
-Roger
Like said above, if it isn't broke, I don't fix it. I'm using Netarchy's 4.18 and I'm not having the 100% cpu issue at all
Ok, figured I'd contradict myself and flash king's #4 bfs and test benchmarks against net's 4.1.8 bfs. Here are my results:
Fresh 3.1.0.2 / novatec 0003 / setcpu @ 1152 performance
fps2d:
net's - 54/2.69 attempt 2 of 3
king's - 54/1.84 attempt 3 of 3
linpack:
net's - 37.029 attempt 4 of 5
king's - 37.661 attempt 4 of 5
Nena Mark: Only ran once
net's - 15.7
king's - 15.5
Neocore: Only ran once
net's - 31.4
king's - 31.7
Quadrant:
net's - 1496 attempt 1 of 2
king's - 1513 attempt 2 of 2
Looks like king won this round. Gonna keep running it to see what battery life is like.
Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Lol or Ford vs. Chevy
I flashed a new kernel, netarchy 4.3 bfs no havs SBC and no undervolting. I had read before that it can take up to a few days for your phone to stable out after flashing a new kernel. I don't have any major issues, just get some really bad lag here and there. So, is it true that the phone takes time to become stable again? And if so, will the lagging go away in time?
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I flashed a new kernel, netarchy 4.3 bfs no havs SBC and no undervolting. I had read before that it can take up to a few days for your phone to stable out after flashing a new kernel. I don't have any major issues, just get some really bad lag here and there. So, is it true that the phone takes time to become stable again? And if so, will the lagging go away in time?
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Maybe...but then again it could be the kernel/rom/your phone combo. They say to wait for a few days for the kernel to level out but when I installed netarchy 4.2.1 cfs more havs smartass, my phone was zippy from the first boot. And never got slower or faster. So you could try to wait it out but if you find the perfect kernel for you phone it will
Probably be good right away. Once you find a good one I would run it for every rom you use. I've been on sbc net 4.2.1 for maybe a month and I'm not goin anywhere!!
I used the site evobenchers.com to make my decision to go with 4.2.1 it seemed to have the perfect mix of low battery drain and good speed and to my surprise it worked.check out the site and use the graphs to make you're decision. Good luck
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
As of right now it doesn't seem to lag a bit. However, I disabled all window animations so that's probably the reason why. It seems to be doing fine though. I'm really loving this battery life, I've spent about 30 min texting, on Facebook, and playing angry birds. Still sitting at 100%
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Yeah...it's a really good kernel.
I'm currently running Cyanogenmod, but I listen to music at least a few hours a day, and its really draining my battery. Any suggestions for a good AOSP rom for battery life, outside of MIUI and Cyanogenmod? Thanks!
Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
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Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
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do not use the 1.0.0 kernel or you will get nasty audio quality if volume is > 50%
SZ 0.2.1 is getting me a lot of battery life. there is salvage mod 1.1 as well
I haven't done a whole lot of kernel flashing before, SZ is compatible with Cyanogenmod I take it?
Are you looking for Rome or kernels?....cus Tom's I wouldn't know but the tiamat kernel in my sig for AOSP roms works really well...SBC and non-SBC available
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I am getting REALLY good results with CM7 and Tiamat. I don't do a ton of music listening but I do put medium to heavy use on it and I am nowhere near having to charge it end of day.
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
If you're using pandora, slacker, or some other music streaming app your battery will suffer pretty much regardless of whatever kernel you're using.
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SavagedZen is he best for ASOP in my experience, but anyone can have great battery life just by turning off data/WiFi, etc when you aren't using it.
thanamesjames said:
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
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I am on the nonsbc one, I usually disregard the warnings as I am fairly comfortable in flashing and such but when it states actual damage possible that's where I stop.
That's just me though, some people seem to have great success with it.
If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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Yea don't get me wrong, I know they are probably safe to use or the devs wouldn't put them out as final builds. I just personally don't use them.
Visit HERE. Also, I've been using sbc since they first arrived on the seen. I've yet to have any problems so I suppose everyone is different.
I run this rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-htc-...rom-gingerbread-evo-deck-rc6-real-stable.html
And this kernel, http://mirror.savaged-zen.com/
with great results.
What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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HERE you can compare kernels. But i personally like a kernel that more aggressive. Netarchys Kernels & Ziggy's Kernels
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Personally bfs doesnt play well with my phone so stay with cfs. try each for a day and compare notes.
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You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Im using the net more havs hope it doesn't hurt my phone . Thanks what Rom u using . I'm on airborne
ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
Something is wrong...
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ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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Got onto the Elite 3 ROM the other day and LOVE it! However, its absolutely chewing through my battery life (extended batteries). Went from getting at very least 12 hours on MikFroyo 4.5 & stock kernel to now sitting at 63% after 3 hours! Was using Juice Defender for a bit until this kernel. lots of people said not to with havs.
Using Nets 4.3.4 cfs nosbc haves more with Konis Elite Series 3.
Have also got Setcpu running at smartass (also tried on demand) st 245/740ish and have one screen off profile set to 245/245 powersave.
Need to find a fix because I want to stay on this ROM.
Currently I'm running Nils Business GingerSense 3.0.
I'm wondering what kernel have the best performance for a full 3.0 sense gingerbread.
Thanks in Advance
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Currently I'm running Nils Business GingerSense 3.0.
I'm wondering what kernel have the best performance for a full 3.0 sense gingerbread.
Thanks in Advance
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I've been using Tiny's kernel released on 9/1 and I overclocked it to 1. 075 using smartass and battery life is great. It also helped with the performance and now it is even smoother. I really recommend it.
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I've been using Tiny's kernel released on 9/1 and I overclocked it to 1. 075 using smartass and battery life is great. It also helped with the performance and now it is even smoother. I really recommend it.
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OK thanks I will try it
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There are currently only two kernels available for Gingersense roms: stock gingerbread kernel and Tiny's. Not much of a variety or possibility for recommendations at the moment
Flash tiny during the afternoon and had 3 random reboot but other than that everything is fine. But I think I'm going back to the kernel this rom had for stock I just hate random reboots
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Flash tiny during the afternoon and had 3 random reboot but other than that everything is fine. But I think I'm going back to the kernel this rom had for stock I just hate random reboots
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Hmmm, it worked great on Nils' 2.1/3.0 Gingersense. I was running that for the past couple of days and it did bootloop once. I just flashed 3.0 with Tiny's kernel. I'll report back tomorrow.
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Hmmm, it worked great on Nils' 2.1/3.0 Gingersense. I was running that for the past couple of days and it did bootloop once. I just flashed 3.0 with Tiny's kernel. I'll report back tomorrow.
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I will keep running tiny for tomorrow too and see what happen.
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Well, I can safely say Tiny's kernel works amazing on Gingersense 3.0. No bootloops, great battery life, and pretty fluid.
Test tuning yesterday and all day today. Is not working for me
Random reboots
Slow downs
Crashes
I'm going to use the one modded in nils 3.0 post. But thanks
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Test tuning yesterday and all day today. Is not working for me
Random reboots
Slow downs
Crashes
I'm going to use the one modded in nils 3.0 post. But thanks
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Guess it varies by use and device. It has been working great for me so far and Oct had it since I flashed the rom about two days ago.
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Test tuning yesterday and all day today. Is not working for me
Random reboots
Slow downs
Crashes
I'm going to use the one modded in nils 3.0 post. But thanks
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Are/were you using SetCPU?
I ran set CPU for couple of hours then uninstalled add it was all the same. But I don't know maybe I did something wrong...?
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I ran set CPU for couple of hours then uninstalled add it was all the same. But I don't know maybe I did something wrong...?
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I was going to suggest that if you had set a screen off profile in SetCPU then that most likely was the problem since the smartass governor automatically detects when your screen is off, thus not needing a screen off profile. If you have one then it screws with the kernel. Since you uninstalled it and still experienced problems then that must not have been the cause.
I've reverted back to Nils 2.1/3.0 with Tiny's kernel and everything is running fluidly. Everyone I've seen that uses this kernel with either ROM has nothing but good things to say so maybe you had a bad download, or just bad luck lol
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I was going to suggest that if you had set a screen off profile in SetCPU then that most likely was the problem since the smartass governor automatically detects when your screen is off, thus not needing a screen off profile. If you have one then it screws with the kernel. Since you uninstalled it and still experienced problems then that must not have been the cause.
I've reverted back to Nils 2.1/3.0 with Tiny's kernel and everything is running fluidly. Everyone I've seen that uses this kernel with either ROM has nothing but good things to say so maybe you had a bad download, or just bad luck lol
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That's the first thing I did set up the profiles specially the screen off one thanks for that.
I will re-download just in case is a bad download and try it again without profiles and see what happen.
I will report back tomorrow
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So I'm on it again just installed tiny kernel 0901 and. SetCpu with no profiles and everything's good no fc no boot loops no slow downs so far
Let see what happen during the day...
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Run fantastic smooth and fast all day.
The only thing is the battery drain faster today had to charge during my lunch time but other than that everything good
SetCpu:
Smartass
Max 1113600
Min 128000
Tiny kernel 0901
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Run fantastic smooth and fast all day.
The only thing is the battery drain faster today had to charge during my lunch time but other than that everything good
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Max 1113600
Min 128000
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Good to hear. It's easier to respond to bug reports in my kernel thread on the dev page as I rarely watch the other threads.
Which version did you come from when going to the Sept 1st one? I had upped the voltage slightly in the releases from the betas but nothing crazy. With this kernel there's no HAVS yet so voltage adjustment like in AOSP is not available yet. Voltage is the same at stock 1Ghz as 1.113Ghz so overclocking shouldn't affect power in this case. Remember that battery drain has a lot to do with usage and signal strength, though I try to add the tweaks I can (smartass+HAVS+UV). When I add HAVS it should be undervolted a bit more.
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Good to hear. It's easier to respond to bug reports in my kernel thread on the dev page as I rarely watch the other threads.
Which version did you come from when going to the Sept 1st one? I had upped the voltage slightly in the releases from the betas but nothing crazy. With this kernel there's no HAVS yet so voltage adjustment like in AOSP is not available yet. Voltage is the same at stock 1Ghz as 1.113Ghz so overclocking shouldn't affect power in this case. Remember that battery drain has a lot to do with usage and signal strength, though I try to add the tweaks I can (smartass+HAVS+UV). When I add HAVS it should be undervolted a bit more.
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This is the first time I change/flash kernel I always use the stock one that install the rom I use.
But I read a lot of positive feedbacks then I decide to try it
And I have to say is excellent thanks for this work!!
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Where can I find Tiny's kernel? I searched for it, but could not find the new 9-1 updated kernel.
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Where can I find Tiny's kernel? I searched for it, but could not find the new 9-1 updated kernel.
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It can be found on Chad's site where you would download his Incredikernel or on the development forum for the Incredible.
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