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Wow! The camera is now working for the new sense.
The new official versions of those new sense roms will come out very soon (Robociks RCMixHD and Desire Z Port).
Now, I am confused :
To rotate or not to rotate?
Anyone can help me decide?

Personally I don't like the look of it in Landscape so I'll say HD
Not followed the camera progress for a while so if it's working I'll be rooting again soon

I was going to ask the same question!. I can live without 720p for the time being - seems a minor fix compared to actually getting the camera working in these ROM's.
I am currently running Teppics ROM and i do like it but i am very tempted to try another!
Can i just ask what is the rotating part you are talking about? - I have not kept up with the ports until the camera issue was resolved?

wingnutta said:
I was going to ask the same question!. I can live without 720p for the time being - seems a minor fix compared to actually getting the camera working in these ROM's.
I am currently running Teppics ROM and i do like it but i am very tempted to try another!
Can i just ask what is the rotating part you are talking about? - I have not kept up with the ports until the camera issue was resolved?
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The HTC Sense can be viewed in a landscape mode in the Z ROM.

aaa said:
Wow! The camera is now working for the new sense.
The new official versions of those new sense roms will come out very soon (Robociks RCMixHD and Desire Z Port).
Now, I am confused :
To rotate or not to rotate?
Anyone can help me decide?
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to be honest, the rotating kind of annoys me, so i'm a HD rom man.
the MT4G rom is also interesting and worth a look if you want to try something a bit different. really fast too.

Hmmm....it seems rotation is not to everyone liking..
720p is also a minor problem for me as long as I have the camera working because I need the camera for emergency use when I don't have my Panasonic FZ38 with me.
Is there a speed difference between Z and HD?

My Mistake, ignore this reply
*This*

Never use 720p as it's terrible on the Desire so it doesn't bother me - just a working camera will do the job!!
All flashed and working fine

aaa said:
If I am not mistaken, MT4G is a non-Sense ROM.
I have tried Cynogen about two weeks ago, I like the speed but I got the impression that I was not holding an HTC Desire on my hand because the Sense was missing and Sense is a kind of a birth mark on every normal HTC Desire.
That is why I use Leedroid instead
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I'm trying to remember - it was a little while since I used it - but I think it was sense, or had the sense widgets anyway.
Here's the thread - take a look for yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392

aaa said:
Hmmm....it seems rotation is not to everyone liking..
720p is also a minor problem for me as long as I have the camera working because I need the camera for emergency use when I don't have my Panasonic FZ38 with me.
Is there a speed difference between Z and HD?
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why is 720p a problem for you? HD Recoring is pathetic on the desire

AndroHero said:
why is 720p a problem for you? HD Recoring is pathetic on the desire
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I wanna have everything functioning but again as said, it is only a minor problem, something I can live with.
Yup, very bad...the recording quality is pathetic.

cr1960 said:
I'm trying to remember - it was a little while since I used it - but I think it was sense, or had the sense widgets anyway.
Here's the thread - take a look for yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392
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yes the espresso mytouch 4G is a sense based HD rom and I've been using it for about a month now, super reliable and super fast (quadrant nearly 2000)

beanbean50 said:
yes the espresso mytouch 4G is a sense based HD rom and I've been using it for about a month now, super reliable and super fast (quadrant nearly 2000)
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Have you find any issues or bugs (the laggy 720p is already known)? Notification LED?
According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392 : "Rom is cleaned of bloatware."
Do you know :
What are/ is the bloatware/s? or what is missing or removed?
One of my fav mod now is the DSP manager and I am currently using Leedroid 2.2f, does the DSP thing works on that ROM?

aaa said:
Have you find any issues or bugs (the laggy 720p is already known)? Notification LED?
According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392 : "Rom is cleaned of bloatware."
Do you know :
What are/ is the bloatware/s? or what is missing or removed?
One of my fav mod now is the DSP manager and I am currently using Leedroid 2.2f, does the DSP thing works on that ROM?
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the bloatware was all the t-mobile junk and game demos/apps etc
DSP manager isn't working on this rom at the moment
(but the dev is very helpful and will probably try to fix it if you ask him nicely )
In my opinion the rom kernel isn't the best, I've tried quite a few over the weeks and coutts99 kernel remix is the best so far (now with audiomod to boost the sound)
there is a promised new release version later on tonight so if you're thinking of flashing this rom hang on for a few hours...!

beanbean50 said:
the bloatware was all the t-mobile junk and game demos/apps etc
DSP manager isn't working on this rom at the moment
(but the dev is very helpful and will probably try to fix it if you ask him nicely )
In my opinion the rom kernel isn't the best, I've tried quite a few over the weeks and coutts99 kernel remix is the best so far (now with audiomod to boost the sound)
there is a promised new release version later on tonight so if you're thinking of flashing this rom hang on for a few hours...!
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I will definitely wait.
I want the new sense badly
It doesn't have to be the same DSP manager as I use at the moment as long as I can adjust the audio quality as I please.
I have tried the HD Rom 3 weeks ago, but switched back to Leedroid because of the camera was not working.
Now the camera is working, I can live with the 720p problem.Although, I am still hoping that the 720p problem will also be fixed soon.

[MOD] HTC Amaze camera for Sense 3.5 2.3.5

Only changed media_profiles.xml Flash this at your own risk
Features
•Much faster snap shop and focus
•New Auto mode
•New SmartShot mode (Takes multiple photos at once and combines them to make a better shot)
•New SweepShot (Like Panoramic without having to stop)
•New Clearshot HDR
•New BurstShot (Takes multiple photos at once really fast)
•New Night mode
•New Action mode (to take images of fast moving objects)
•New Macro mode (for close ups)
•New Portrait mode for great portraits
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bECrEICJtKI&feature=player_embedded
Download Link: http://www.multiupload.com/YZQUSB1W7S
and working on Synergy ROM, Virtuous Unity too i dont know about other sense 2.1 sense 3.0 roms.
vgunmanga said:
Working on Synergy ROM (sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrid).
Thanks a bunch.
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NeverGone\RU said:
Confirmed to work on Virtuous Unity.
But not all the functions are working correctly because they are not even supported by DZ's hardware.
For example, HDR simply doesn't work and Burst Shooting freezes the camera.
But thanks anyway for the file.
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Thanks for
CdTDroiD & Baadnewz
+ sbryan12144 & chrisch1974

Nice job, even tho i flashed it straight from DHD forums, but yeah, good one mate
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Nice job, even tho i flashed it straight from DHD forums, but yeah, good one mate
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
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Thanks mate, enjoy

adakaya1994 said:
Thanks mate, enjoy
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Has the media_profiles been tweaked to allow 0% compression? That makes the quality so much better
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Has the media_profiles been tweaked to allow 0% compression? That makes the quality so much better
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ
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Dunno, i think that makes slow shots too and quality is good enough i think?

adakaya1994 said:
Dunno, i think that makes slow shots too and quality is good enough i think?
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Nah it makes the shots better, because in between it normally compresses it, but with the mod it doesnt, it uses the raw image
Sent from my Desire Z running @ 2GHZ

Dumb question ... does this require a Sense ROM, or will it work on CM 7.1? I'm on 2.3.7 right now ...

pcgeek86 said:
Dumb question ... does this require a Sense ROM, or will it work on CM 7.1? I'm on 2.3.7 right now ...
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Seconded - I have the tmob G2 running Cm7.1 2.3.7 now... Will this work?

pcgeek86 said:
Dumb question ... does this require a Sense ROM, or will it work on CM 7.1? I'm on 2.3.7 right now ...
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no
piruzinho said:
Seconded - I have the tmob G2 running Cm7.1 2.3.7 now... Will this work?
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no
sorry guys...

Working on Synergy ROM (sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrid).
Thanks a bunch.

vgunmanga said:
Working on Synergy ROM (sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrid).
Thanks a bunch.
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Working on sense 2.1? Good news thanks to you

on insertcoin new version... camera does not seems working... force close here...

on blissmod sense 3.5 v2, the camera is also having issues.
when i try to take a panoramic picture it freezes up, is there a way to go back to the stock one or am i going to have to reinstall the rom?

sterz85 said:
on blissmod sense 3.5 v2, the camera is also having issues.
when i try to take a panoramic picture it freezes up, is there a way to go back to the stock one or am i going to have to reinstall the rom?
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Sorry about that you can try flash this. http://www.multiupload.com/KX8LDPJAPR

Confirmed to work on Virtuous Unity.
But not all the functions are working correctly because they are not even supported by DZ's hardware.
For example, HDR simply doesn't work and Burst Shooting freezes the camera.
But thanks anyway for the file.

NeverGone\RU said:
Confirmed to work on Virtuous Unity.
But not all the functions are working correctly because they are not even supported by DZ's hardware.
For example, HDR simply doesn't work and Burst Shooting freezes the camera.
But thanks anyway for the file.
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Yes, some features doesn't work but i think this is better camera app than stock.

sterz85 said:
on blissmod sense 3.5 v2, the camera is also having issues.
when i try to take a panoramic picture it freezes up, is there a way to go back to the stock one or am i going to have to reinstall the rom?
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jus flash back without wipe... easy...

benjamminzIS said:
no
no
sorry guys...
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Is there a good camera for the G2 tmob/ CM7.1?

sterz85 said:
on blissmod sense 3.5 v2, the camera is also having issues.
when i try to take a panoramic picture it freezes up, is there a way to go back to the stock one or am i going to have to reinstall the rom?
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Strange this is that it only freezes when you try to make a picture and there's allot of light. When it's a bit darker it will work.

piruzinho said:
Is there a good camera for the G2 tmob/ CM7.1?
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I think not zip maybe 3rd party.

[Q] Will the HTC Sense 4.0 Camera work on an ICS ROM?

Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to install the HTC Sense 4.0 Camera APK and use it as a default for my current ICS ROM.. I'm using Ice Cream Jibwich 2.0, so far it seems to be the smoothest ICS ROM that works on my Desire Z and does have a working camera.. I just like some of the functionality of the Sense 4.0 camera, and I was wondering if I could get it on my ICS ROM.. Is there anything I need to know about? Is it just as simple as replacing the camera apk or will there be issues with framework? etc.
Thanks

Nope, it needs sense framework. Correct Me if wrong

g1user101 said:
Nope, it needs sense framework. Correct Me if wrong
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^What he said.
the Sense-style blobs, drivers, etc is designed specifically for that sense kernel it won't work outside of that.
On a Funny Note: There used to be a ton of these types of threads, except it was how to get ICS cameras working on Sense (since before infinity, Sense didn't have a working camera for 3.6 onward).

kbeezie said:
^What he said.
the Sense-style blobs, drivers, etc is designed specifically for that sense kernel it won't work outside of that.
On a Funny Note: There used to be a ton of these types of threads, except it was how to get ICS cameras working on Sense (since before infinity, Sense didn't have a working camera for 3.6 onward).
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Yeah I know, I was waiting for a Sense 4 camera to become working then thought i'd pop the question I like the combined Camera and Video functionality as well as all the effects etc., oh well though, just a thought Won't loose any sleep over it, thanks anyway

Hi, i have sense 4 of on my phone desire z and camera work's fine the only thing is the continues picture shot doesn't work when i press and hold the shutter.... any one else facing this issue?
ahmedrzvi

[Q] can we expect stable ics or jelly bean in the near future?

will it be possible to have a stable ICS or jelly bean rom in the near future or does it seem quite impossible.. when i say stable, i mean usable for daily use with camera,camcorder,video playback, fm radio, bluetooth running properly

Hello,
on ICS devs have already managed to get camera,camcorder,video playback and bluetooth working properly. and you can get fm radio working with an extra application.
on JB devs have got camera, and bluetooth working, but the camcorder and video playback still needs work. nothing is impossible when it comes to android. hope they will figure it out soon.

I've tried Paranoid android by Yasir and it worked well. For the camcorder and video playback, i installed 3rd party apps and worked just fine. But i don't really use those stuff that much.

MIMi King said:
Hello,
on ICS devs have already managed to get camera,camcorder,video playback and bluetooth working properly. and you can get fm radio working with an extra application.
on JB devs have got camera, and bluetooth working, but the camcorder and video playback still needs work. nothing is impossible when it comes to android. hope they will figure it out soon.
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are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos

yeahman45 said:
are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos
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I've tried couple of ICS rom lately, and one of them became my daily rom. Camera and video recording works good. 2 weeks time frame is far too long for them to be able to fix these issue. I'm using JB right now as my daily rom, i never experience any crashes.

and which ICS rom was it plz?

Just take a look at Q&A section, almost all issue threads are about ICS and JB roms.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders

yeahman45 said:
are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos
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I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.

vBurak said:
I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.
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I flashed Sandvold ICS once but removed it a day later. I don't quite remember why, think it was some crash problem.
However, I have tried Nikez ICS & JB, Elk759 JB, Spazedog ICS/JB. All of these ROMs are working fine for me without any problems or stupid crashes. However, a little faster ROM is needed.

Answer: no.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

vBurak said:
I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.
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The rom you mentioned works on me as well, but I opted out because of the response (with MIUI ICS opening SMS takes 4 seconds, Titanium Backup 30 seconds to load the backup list..)

for me Spazedog ICS and Nikez Lente are the best opinions. The only real problem is the camcorder. For watching videos im using mxplayer.

guggi4 said:
for me Spazedog ICS and Nikez Lente are the best opinions. The only real problem is the camcorder. For watching videos im using mxplayer.
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videocamillusion is good, you could try it.
I was using Nikez ics rom before as my daily. I switch to JB couple of weeks ago.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Any reason to go JB or ICS?

Hello,
I am a long time CM7 user. Since there is no official CM9 or CM10 comming out for the Desire, I was wondering whether there is any real reason to dive into ICS or JB waters.
From what I could find, ICS should have USB host in the kernel and JB a faster UI. Now how does this translate to our device? Is there a real performance benefit or are these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android?
note: I am running everything from SD with S2E on CM7 as there is not nearly enough internal memory in the Desire for me, so performance penalty here on GB as well...

jarda-wien said:
these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android
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Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.

Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.

Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.

syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.

Hi,
try the AOKP its very good its another feeling :cyclops:

k3lcior said:
Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.
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No kelcior you are wrong. Woh built legacy camera and so Evervolv. Now in last nightlies camera works without glitches but camcorder doesn't...
just to report correct informations.
I agree: do a nandroid and try it out. I did the same weeks ago and I'll do for the next a1 from Nikez
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?

[k3lcior;34069023]Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.[/QUOTE]
Actually the camera fixes as mentioned above are in the nightlies. Only you, not us, were talking about the camcorder and for no reason you decided to be a **** about too... classy.
@Impactor: The ROM runs remarkably well. Very smooth and fast. Really though don't take my word, or kelciors, on it just make a nandroid and give it a whirl if you don't like it then it's a piece of cake to restore back.

impactor said:
What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?
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ICS/JB eats about twice more RAM than GB ROM's just on boot.

I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?

impactor said:
I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?
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Of course not. Engage brain.
He means just from the phone booting up it uses more RAM than GB. Not including apps you launch
To be fair to jellybean if it was coded properly for the desire it would be considerably faster than gingerbread.
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It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.

impactor said:
It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.
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Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.

impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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Its the best 4.0+ ROM for desire but I still don't think its quite as fast as some 2.3 roms
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Reasons for Android 4.0:
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
But I guess you know about the new features, so why you're asking?
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
k3lcior said:
Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.
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Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
boleguc said:
Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.
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Really? Sense will always be a big discussion, but 4 is still bloated. It doesn't have additional features and the UI mostly can be themed.
syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Thanks for trying and not just complaining
dethrat said:
Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Actually, there are ports, yes, all Sense roms are ports, some JB Roms are ports, but some aren't.
And HTC is known for thee "hacks" you mention aswell. You shouldn't have bought a Desire if you don't like hacks.
impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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The performance is good.

WoH said:
Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
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First one that comes to my mind, blinking/flashing Youtube videos. (issue exists for about half year already in ICS/JB)
Broken camcorder you mentioned (15 fps recording) wasn't fixed for about a year already (since first ICS builds)
Non working flash (and the JB compatibility doesn't matter, it has been confirmed working on other devices with workaround), dont want to go into details it just doesnt work in Desire JB ROM's.
Want more? JB/ICS is much larger in size, which means YOU HAVE TO use ext partition for a2sd solution, while on GB ROM's internal memory can be enough with custom hboot. (just dont tell me there is no speed difference between internal / sd :laugh
And since Qualcomm/HTC will NEVER release libs/source for all the drivers, there will be never fully working HWA/Butter.
WoH said:
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
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Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
Just to show what's the difference, upon booting JB ROM you'll have about 150-160Mb free RAM, on GB (cm7, mildwild w/e) it's about 290-300Mb free RAM - go figure.
So yeah, i think i'm fine with Android/Linux knowledge.
WoH said:
The performance is good.
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Until you'll run out of RAM, which happens quite often @ JB.

WoH said:
all Sense roms are ports
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Dafuq?

k3lcior said:
Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
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Um.. yea it does...