I recently got my Droid Incredible and while researching I came across many topics on google about the "battery bug" in which various sites and forum posts report that the dinc doesn't charge all the way when it is turned on. There have been many supposed workarounds to get around the issue, which you guys probably already know, mostly involves turning off the phone after the phone reports that it is charged to 100%.
In any case, I was searching around this board and didn't find to much topics about this here, granted I only searched up to February. Does the bug actually exist or is it the battery management function that drains that falsely reports the 100% that I read in another topic here?
But suppose that it is real, are there any permanent fixes to this issue, such as through custom roms and/or kernals?
Sorry if this has been asked (a million times) before. Thought I'd get the best answer by creating a new topic. Thanks for the read.
Here's a big part of the info you're looking for...Your batter gauge is lying to you...
wildland said:
Here's a big part of the info you're looking for...Your batter gauge is lying to you...
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Ahhh, this is what I get for skimming. I didn't read the latter part of the post. Thank you for this. Now I will go hang my head in shame.
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Here's a big part of the info you're looking for...Your batter gauge is lying to you...
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Thanks for the link, I will definitely sit down and read it next time I'm on the throne.
Just so I don't completely waste this topic, I'll ask my other question here: If I got a replacement for my dinc, how likely is it going to have some bad backlight bleeding? The one I have right now bleeds noticeably from the top and a little from the bottom.
retsnom said:
Just so I don't completely waste this topic, I'll ask my other question here: If I got a replacement for my dinc, how likely is it going to have some bad backlight bleeding? The one I have right now bleeds noticeably from the top and a little from the bottom.
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If that is your only problem I wouldn't recommend playing the roulette game that is Verizon's Certified Like New program. There is little to no quality control and I managed to get 2 Incredibles that were completely unusable before finally getting one that worked at all.
zerocool79346 said:
If that is your only problem I wouldn't recommend playing the roulette game that is Verizon's Certified Like New program. There is little to no quality control and I managed to get 2 Incredibles that were completely unusable before finally getting one that worked at all.
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Wait, they don't give you a new replacement? I'm still within in 14 day return period if that makes any difference.
retsnom said:
Wait, they don't give you a new replacement? I'm still within in 14 day return period if that makes any difference.
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Hmm, I'm actually not sure about that situation, I would demand it if I were you. But I can promise if you get outside of the 14 day return period you won't get anything but used, and a little light leakage is nothing compared to what you might end up with.
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Wondering what's going on with peoples Evo lately... Mine stopped working for 3 hours then came back on.... I went to sleep this morning and left it on the USB charger...Woke up and noticed that my supersonic was off and went through the normal routine of trying to get it back on..(battery pull, tried booting into recovery, pulled SD card, tried different charger) all to no avail.... Get to the store and the tech tells me my battery is deformed (even told me to feel the buldge, which I did not feel). Their solution was for me to by a new battery...they wouldn't replace and im covered with the TEP....just as I was about to purchase the extended battery cause they didnt have the stock battery, I push the power button and my phone boots... Walked out the store baffled but the phone has been working ever since...
I been reading similar stories and my simple question is what the hell is going on...
Sent from my Supersonic EVO Using 4G Speeds
K-Driod said:
Wondering what's going on with peoples Evo lately... Mine stopped working for 3 hours then came back on.... I went to sleep this morning and left it on the USB charger...Woke up and noticed that my supersonic was off and went through the normal routine of trying to get it back on..(battery pull, tried booting into recovery, pulled SD card, tried different charger) all to no avail.... Get to the store and the tech tells me my battery is deformed (even told me to feel the buldge, which I did not feel). Their solution was for me to by a new battery...they wouldn't replace and im covered with the TEP....just as I was about to purchase the extended battery cause they didnt have the stock battery, I push the power button and my phone boots... Walked out the store baffled but the phone has been working ever since...
I been reading similar stories and my simple question is what the hell is going on...
Sent from my Supersonic EVO Using 4G Speeds
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Probably something with the kernel, that seems to be the common denominator so far.
Almost all of us hack our phones in some way: rooting, flashing roms, flashing kernels, adding programs (like hulu, wireless tether), etc etc. Since our battery life sucks anyway, many of us charge our phones multiple times per day. Li-Ion batteries aren't exactly known for their stability. If you Google it, you'll find that they've been acting funny and blowing up for nearly a decade (the oldest news story I could find dated back to 2002).
Since we run our phones really hard, sometimes the battery bugs out for a little while, or dies completely. It was recently blamed on SBC kernels, but we're talking a very small percentage of users experiencing problems. However, it's the nature of the beast that sometimes the phone just has a mild heart attack and comas out for a bit. I would still replace the battery or at least take it easy on flashing things for a little while.
As our phone grows older, we have more and more options on what to do with it...and that's just super but over-flash too much and one line of code doesn't make it and boom, your phone doesn't turn on for 3 hours. Software is a fickle *****, so have fun but be cautious. Always check your logcats and battery monitors.
Thanks for this very logical explanation... Ordered new battery just in case....and will take heed to your recommendations..
AbsolutZeroGI said:
Almost all of us hack our phones in some way: rooting, flashing roms, flashing kernels, adding programs (like hulu, wireless tether), etc etc. Since our battery life sucks anyway, many of us charge our phones multiple times per day. Li-Ion batteries aren't exactly known for their stability. If you Google it, you'll find that they've been acting funny and blowing up for nearly a decade (the oldest news story I could find dated back to 2002).
Since we run our phones really hard, sometimes the battery bugs out for a little while, or dies completely. It was recently blamed on SBC kernels, but we're talking a very small percentage of users experiencing problems. However, it's the nature of the beast that sometimes the phone just has a mild heart attack and comas out for a bit. I would still replace the battery or at least take it easy on flashing things for a little while.
As our phone grows older, we have more and more options on what to do with it...and that's just super but over-flash too much and one line of code doesn't make it and boom, your phone doesn't turn on for 3 hours. Software is a fickle *****, so have fun but be cautious. Always check your logcats and battery monitors.
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Just saw you said your battery was deformed... yeah, that's why you don't use kernels with sbc. It's pretty stupid to honestly.
Check out a video on youtube of what they can do when overcharged.
And definitely get rid of that battery. That's not something you want to be using.
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Just saw you said your battery was deformed... yeah, that's why you don't use kernels with sbc. It's pretty stupid to honestly.
Check out a video on youtube of what they can do when overcharged.
And definitely get rid of that battery. That's not something you want to be using.
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lol do you search the website every hour for "SBC" and have to diss it every post lol, it's actually hilarious, i find it funny...
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lol do you search the website every hour for "SBC" and have to diss it every post lol, it's actually hilarious, i find it funny...
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He asked what was going on so I told him, I'm glad you are easily amused.
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He asked what was going on so I told him, I'm glad you are easily amused.
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maybe you should enlighten him that batteries aren't perfect nor are they any where near invincible, they come and go, just like cars, just like power supplies, just like anything. Relax with the NAZI, "SBC OMGGGGGGGG" that's all, it's every thread and it's all opinionated. And no, I'm not going to argue with 4.2 charge full dangerous 4.3 read this site, then dip your oreo while doing a kickflip, no, just relax with the opinions that's all...
Reading these forums, i've noticed quite a few people have got faulty phones. What should I look out for and how can I tell I've got a fully functioning model?
I heard that that screen flickering issue was a software bug so I don't think I need to worry about that?
Ad-hox said:
Reading these forums, i've noticed quite a few people have got faulty phones. What should I look out for and how can I tell I've got a fully functioning model?
I heard that that screen flickering issue was a software bug so I don't think I need to worry about that?
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First off, I would stop reading about problems and enjoy your device. Everyone is so worried about the screen falling off and what tint/flashing. I'm sure problems exist, but don't spend all your time going over it with a magnifier to find something. Enjoy it !
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First off, I would stop reading about problems and enjoy your device. Everyone is so worried about the screen falling off and what tint/flashing. I'm sure problems exist, but don't spend all your time going over it with a magnifier to find something. Enjoy it !
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Best advice I read here in a while! Reading these forums is like watching medical shows on tv.
Look here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26000212#post26000212
Credits to hamdir !
Cheers~
You should look out for a courier will be carrying a package in your name.
seriously
It's highly unlikely you will get a phone with issues which were found in the first lot of handsets.
(Mods not sure if this should be in Q&A or in general but the title is in form of a question so i thought here. Move it if you like...)
Theres a sticky for a reason but many for some reason dont like to use it also there is a search bar but it seems invisible to some...
Two question that keep coming up alot are a GOOD GB rom and battery life i know im just adding to it but just had to :
If your looking for a Good custom GB EL29 rom that has good Gps, battery life etc..
the two that everyone recommend are
Calks EL 29 GB rom which has many features which include hacked 3g, 4g hotspot hacked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
The other one is
Phantoms Blazer 4.1 GB Rom
(currently looking for active download location will post as soon as i find it . if anyone has it or knows a good download link please post it.)
battery life issues?
My battery life is starting to last less and less?
My phone says 90% battery life and then suddenly it shuts down without showing the animation?
My phone says battery life 80% and then shuts off and after i restart it , it will say 20%
Many of these problems are cause by a bad battery. many of us have had this phone for a lil bit over a year and the battery starts to go out.
especially with all the flashing we do..
Solution?: take your battery out of the phone and place it on top of a desk or counter and see if it lies flat. If it doesnt and it looks kind of bulgy its because its done. You need a new battery .
FYI: First... anything... I've heard from Sprint on this:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/509234#509234
HalcyonCmdr123 (Sprint Care) said:
Initial findings from the Reverse Logistics team (i.e. where stores send things back to when issues arise) are inconclusive. Samsung and Sprint are currently investigating batteries and devices that stores have sent back for the cause of the issues. I don't have any sort of ETA.
Many of the phones with swollen batteris that I have personally seen also have had other signs of abuse however, this includes things like humidity and heat/cold exposure, drops, cracks, etc. that could cause issues and result in potentially variable voltage from the battery or through the circuitry on the phone.
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FYI: First... anything... I've heard from Sprint on this:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/509234#509234
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I didnt state that that is the only reason for a bad battery. It is one of the main reasons though. Thats the problem im having right now i already ordered a new battery. I flash a new rom on a constant basis even if the one im currently using is a DD. Ive walked in to many sprint corporate repair centers and when you tell them the issue you are having the first thing they do is pull out the battery. Samsung has 18month warranty on the battery but sprint wont replace it. They want you to contact samsung directly.
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Many of these problems are cause by a bad battery. many of us have had this phone for a lil bit over a year and the battery starts to go out.
especially with all the flashing we do..
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P.S.
I don't think you can tell us anything about the highly rumored 2-step OTA that's going to get us to JB, huh?
Word is an announcement is expected this week and something to be pushed as early as Monday.
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Keep us updated on the response ..
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I didnt state that that is the only reason for a bad battery. It is one of the main reasons though. Thats the problem im having right now i already ordered a new battery. I flash a new rom on a constant basis even if the one im currently using is a DD. Ive walked in to many sprint corporate repair centers and when you tell them the issue you are having the first thing they do is pull out the battery. Samsung has 18month warranty on the battery but sprint wont replace it. They want you to contact samsung directly.
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Sorry if you thought my post on Sprint was bringing up you specifically... it was actually a more generic observation based on the many threads that have popped up over the past few months. Instead of making a new thread just for that response I figured yours may be the best to drop that info on. No need to clog up the forums more
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Sorry if you thought my post on Sprint was bringing up you specifically... it was actually a more generic observation based on the many threads that have popped up over the past few months. Instead of making a new thread just for that response I figured yours may be the best to drop that info on. No need to clog up the forums more
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OK got it . we :good:
Hey guys, i just got my N7 last thursday and I noticed the sporatic touch issues. Cant click a link until i zoom in quite a bit, scrolling a page stops and starts as i drag my finger across the screen. Its pretty annoying.
I started looking into it and i see lots of people having these problems.
So, is there a definite answer?
Is this a software bug that can potentialy be fixed? Or is this a hardware issue?
I am debating on returning the tablet... Which sucks because other than the touch issues, its been running great.
Thanks guys.
No.
No definitive answer.
And don't expect one from Google/ASUS.
Sfhub has a fix that, if you work through the options, has over an 80% success rate. You'll need to unlock the N7 and follow his instructions exactly.
That leaves the balance of <20% which are most likely hardware.
Your choice. (Maybe) fix it yourself, or keep returning until you get a 'good' one.
Personally, if I still had the option, I'd keep returning it until I got a 'good' one. Let them choke on the defective ones. We're paying them for a working device. Why should we have to fix them?
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No.
No definitive answer.
And don't expect one from Google/ASUS.
Sfhub has a fix that, if you work through the options, has over an 80% success rate. You'll need to unlock the N7 and follow his instructions exactly.
That leaves the balance of <20% which are most likely hardware.
Your choice. (Maybe) fix it yourself, or keep returning until you get a 'good' one.
Personally, if I still had the option, I'd keep returning it until I got a 'good' one. Let them choke on the defective ones. We're paying them for a working device. Why should we have to fix them?
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Yeah its pretty effin' annoying that they are distributing a defective device and don't even aknowledge that there is an issue.
I think ill try the fix first, if that doesnt work, ill revert it back to stock, factory reset and return the damn thing.
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Yeah its pretty effin' annoying that they are distributing a defective device and don't even aknowledge that there is an issue.
I think ill try the fix first, if that doesnt work, ill revert it back to stock, factory reset and return the damn thing.
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IMO it is ultimately a hardware variance in almost all cases, but in some cases it can be compensated for in software.
Google acknowledged the issue months ago, issued a fix that fixed some units and broke others, but has since crawled back into a cave and have not said another word.
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IMO it is ultimately a hardware variance in almost all cases, but in some cases it can be compensated for in software.
Google acknowledged the issue months ago, issued a fix that fixed some units and broke others, but has since crawled back into a cave and have not said another word.
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Yep.
Can't wait to see what 'surprises' the Google/ASUS N10 might bring.
Maybe it'll just fail totally out of the box, and they'll blame the user for opening it.....
sfhub said:
IMO it is ultimately a hardware variance in almost all cases, but in some cases it can be compensated for in software.
Google acknowledged the issue months ago, issued a fix that fixed some units and broke others, but has since crawled back into a cave and have not said another word.
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Yeah, thats what i've gathered from all the posts i've read over the past two days.
Thats why Im willing to try the software side of things first. I figured its worth a shot.
I think it's hardware, the severity depends on your touch firmware (which I suggest you experiment with) and your eye for details. Mine works fine for the most part, sometimes it doesn't realize I lifted my finger off the screen but it's not a deal breaker. I still think it's pretty unacceptable, after years of capacitive touchscreens, I expect them to be flawless by now.
I just got mine today and mine is having issues. I don't know if I should tinker with the software or just send it back. I definitely need to do something about it though, it's an absolute pain for me to use.
Ok I know this question has been asked so many times but I have searched and read and read and then read some more but I can't find a real answer. I used to go more than 4 days on a single charge with minimal phone usage but then I updated to 4.2.2 (kk) and noticed a significant amount of loss in battery life. A couple of days later, the batt was back to normal however I got another update (whatever the hell that was supposed to do) and since then (a couple of weeks now) my phone barely lasts 2 days with barely even making one phone call. When I check the batt. usage I don't see anything that's more than 25%. (Cell standby for example is 23%). Anything I can do?
Also, after the update, the sidebar thing (I'm not sure if that's what it's called but it's the menu you get when you press and hold the return button) is no longer there. What happened to it?
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Ok I know this question has been asked so many times but I have searched and read and read and then read some more but I can't find a real answer. I used to go more than 4 days on a single charge with minimal phone usage but then I updated to 4.2.2 (kk) and noticed a significant amount of loss in battery life. A couple of days later, the batt was back to normal however I got another update (whatever the hell that was supposed to do) and since then (a couple of weeks now) my phone barely lasts 2 days with barely even making one phone call. When I check the batt. usage I don't see anything that's more than 25%. (Cell standby for example is 23%). Anything I can do?
Also, after the update, the sidebar thing (I'm not sure if that's what it's called but it's the menu you get when you press and hold the return button) is no longer there. What happened to it?
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Spoken to samsung/your carrier about their update? (assuming you're using stock)
Tried another battery?
There simply isn't any reason or excuse for creating yet another battery usage topic. What anybody will say here has already been said and discussed. You can also just reply to one of those topics. We do not need another as it just adds to the already diluted forums.
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Ok I know this question has been asked so many times but I have searched and read and read and then read some more but I can't find a real answer. I used to go more than 4 days on a single charge with minimal phone usage but then I updated to 4.2.2 (kk) and noticed a significant amount of loss in battery life. A couple of days later, the batt was back to normal however I got another update (whatever the hell that was supposed to do) and since then (a couple of weeks now) my phone barely lasts 2 days with barely even making one phone call. When I check the batt. usage I don't see anything that's more than 25%. (Cell standby for example is 23%). Anything I can do?
Also, after the update, the sidebar thing (I'm not sure if that's what it's called but it's the menu you get when you press and hold the return button) is no longer there. What happened to it?
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Hello there, here I am to help you out, not to tell you off or scold you. Hope no one banned me for this jaja. well so let's begining. I found something interesting concerning to battery draining starting from kitkat. The first one is "media scanner" it drains a lot of battery, so if you use dr ketang you can handle this, or if you don't want to use dr ketang just install his apk + security settings -obviously rooted device- (to get it working good - available in playstore too) and there you got something good. My next step is just research for android system usage, that is high on kitkat custom sammy roms, don't think this happens on the aosp (not sure). so I hope this is useful for you. :highfive:
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Spoken to samsung/your carrier about their update? (assuming you're using stock)
Tried another battery?
There simply isn't any reason or excuse for creating yet another battery usage topic. What anybody will say here has already been said and discussed. You can also just reply to one of those topics. We do not need another as it just adds to the already diluted forums.
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No thanks for the no help. No one twisted your hand to reply. Like they say, if you have nothing good to say, then don't say nothing at all. But if you bothered to read, there's was another part to my question that was NOT related to the battery draining thing. You guys think it's being smart when you parrot the same words.
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Hello there, here I am to help you out, not to tell you off or scold you. Hope no one banned me for this jaja. well so let's begining. I found something interesting concerning to battery draining starting from kitkat. The first one is "media scanner" it drains a lot of battery, so if you use dr ketang you can handle this, or if you don't want to use dr ketang just install his apk + security settings -obviously rooted device- (to get it working good - available in playstore too) and there you got something good. My next step is just research for android system usage, that is high on kitkat custom sammy roms, don't think this happens on the aosp (not sure). so I hope this is useful for you. :highfive:
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Thanks austtin. I don't really know anything about that ketang thing. No my phone isn't rooted. But thanks anyway. At least you tried instead of being rude like the guy above.
Electroman365 said:
No thanks for the no help. No one twisted your hand to reply.
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The saying is "arm" not "hand".
Electroman365 said:
Like they say, if you have nothing good to say, then don't say nothing at all.
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I did have something good to say, I told you how to post correctly and search instead of just diluting forum with your duplicate posts/questions. You will get your answer more quickly by actually reading instead of creating duplicate posts and waiting to be spoon fed.
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But if you bothered to read, there's was another part to my question that was NOT related to the battery draining thing.
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Yes and that question has already been answered on forum. Info is theer if you look.
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You guys think it's being smart when you parrot the same words.
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No, we find it annoying when newbies create duplicate topics/questions and "parrot same words".
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The saying is "arm" not "hand".
I did have something good to say, I told you how to post correctly and search instead of just diluting forum with your duplicate posts/questions. You will get your answer more quickly by actually reading instead of creating duplicate posts and waiting to be spoon fed.
Yes and that question has already been answered on forum. Info is theer if you look.
No, we find it annoying when newbies create duplicate topics/questions and "parrot same words".
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Okay good, can you give us the propper direct link to it, because we're facing the battery draining too. Searching through xda I didn't found anything, so if you know where's the thread we'll be glad. But remember this: NO ONE'S BORN KNOWING EVERYTHING. Bye felicia
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493849359548