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Windows Phone Marketplace vs Zune

I love this program , although after trying zune, I can not deploy apps from Zune, I can see them and sync from Zune , but I cant deploy apps , just curious if theres a connection between the two? Windows Phone Marketplace v1.6.2 (i believe this is a homebrew )

Vintage144 said:
I love this program , although after trying zune, I can not deploy apps from Zune, I can see them and sync from Zune , but I cant deploy apps , just curious if theres a connection between the two? Windows Phone Marketplace v1.6.2 (i believe this is a homebrew )
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There is no relation between zune and that app.
PS: Yeah, I also think this is a homebrew... but I am not really sure.

There is no connection between the two. You should be able to install apps from zune, but not by using a deployer. Zune deploys the app its self. So there is no reason to want to use any deployment tool to install apps from zune to phone, you should try using eried's desktop marketplace, as it is the best way to get apps and also deploy's them to phone. If you are trying to deploy large games as app from zune or from your phone, you will have to use wifi to download the app and install.

This is Eried's deployer , the thing is it works great, I really dont use Zune at all ,I only use this program , but I tried Zune the other day and the marketplace apps show , but the download button isnt showing ,so I cant download anything off of zune , I have 2 Samsung focus, one works fine (now hacks ,just stock) and my regular use fone with all the hacks, this just started a few days ago, I havent changed any registry settings other than unlock

Well in zune take for instance, if you wanted twitter, you would click on free and then accept. then it will launch and install. thats how it did me, it didnt show a download either for me.

IT WASNT SHOWING THE FREE BUTTON! Its fixed now though!

Google Tasks for WP7 - Needed?

Hi, I'm the developer of GogTasks for WM6.5 (thread on this site). Do you guys think there is a demand for a similar app for Windows Phone 7?
The reason I ask is that I'm not very familiar with the platform from a user-perspective myself. I've developed one app for it, but I'm not a daily user of a WP7 phone. Are there tasks apps bundled with the phone, and if there is, does it have any integration with a) Outlook or b) Google? (I'm pretty sure the answer is no on b) at least).
Also I believe apps are not allowed to integrate with Outlook on WP7 (the API is blocked for third party developers), so I believe the app will be more of a Google Tasks front end than a sync app. Still I may benefit from the API reverse engineering I did for GogTasks for WM6.5 / Desktop Outlook, but is there a demand for it?
Appreciate all input.

Ohhhh yes, would be a cool addition. I can sync my Outlook Tasks to Google via gSyncIt Addin for Outlook and then comes your app for WP7. At this time there are some ToDo Task Apps available, but no no one with Google Tasks Support.

i second that!!! I used g tasks when i had android but no such luck on WP7

I also missing the feature of google tasks on my wp7!
Unfortunately so far there is no wp7-app for google tasks.

I would also love a good google task app with a nice live tile.
Go for it

Ok thanks for your feedback. Maybe I should go for this, but there is one bump in the road - I just rememebered why I haven't done this before :/ ...Microsoft declined v1.1 of GogTasks for WinMo 6.5 on the marketplace because I use a non-public, non-supported WebService API (Google is about to release an open version of the API soon, but we never know how long that will take). I might try to publish anyway and see what happens.
redman99: What kind of info do you think would be relevant on the tile? Whether or not you have any tasks due today maybe? Or the date of the next due task? What if you have no tasks with due dates? Just a static icon?

This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
What you likely have to do with that app is set Google as an Exchange sync, not its normal email type. If Bring the Wine can pass marketplace approval using what I would expect is a somewhat undocumented Exchange API, I would think you could. Especially don't let a single submission keep an idea from being presented because apparently the certification process while rigid can be somewhat of a crap shoot.
Having said all this, Google Tasks do work in the IE browser I believe. They're not perfect but it was a decent stop gap for me. Now I'll try out BtW and if you do release your app, I'd give it a go as well.

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
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Thanks for the hint... i not use Exchange so i still would love a sync app for google task that works without Exchange!
*wink @Nilzor

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
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I'm pretty sure Google's exchange sync protocol still does NOT support tasks. Have you tried this?

gTasks - Google Task Manager - Just released
An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e

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An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
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Thanks for the heads up. This probably means there's no point in me going forward with this.
Anyone care to test the app? The irony of being a developer from Norway is that I can sell apps, but not buy or download (yet).

Yes i have tested it. The App works, but it needs some developing on it. there should be a option to automaticly sync the entrys and as a startpage i would prever a list of the avalaible lists, to choose from. after choosing the right list, i would like to load the items for this particular list. i hope its clear what i mean.
btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.

bilbo_b said:
btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.
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Cool. I did not know of this.

GooTa - an app for google tasks on windows phone
i also really felt the lack of google tasks on windows phone. i'm a heavy user and really love the nesting of tasks and how lightweight it feels in gmail.
and i didn't think that the gtasks app above me quite fit my needs...-_-
so i tried writing my own! check it out:
windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/49fd8ee0-7a38-426e-b674-7ccff5922333
it's called GooTa (google tasks).
let me know if it's missing anything you want -- there's a feedback link in the app. i hope this fits your needs! and if not, let me know and i can add whatever it's missing so it does

Why are IM clients still terrible on WP7?

I thought Mango was suppose to bring full support for IM clients? Yet IM+ and WhatsApp are still awful. WhatsApp is such an incredible app on iOS and Android, using it on WP7 makes me cry literally on what monstrosity they've created. I get a toast notification for a new message, I click it and it takes a good 3-4 seconds for message window to open (why not instantly?) and it takes nearly 10-15 seconds for the new message to appear. It's the exact same behavior in IM+. It's very laggy and very choppy and a far cry from the general smoothness of Mango.
So can someone tell me why this is?

Developers are human beings prone to imperfection. Give it time, allow them to learn the ropes of this new platform and iron out the kinks.

The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.

Peew971 said:
The WhatsApp developers said they wanted the app to be available as soon as possible so they purposely made it barebones. They also promised several updates to make it on par with the other versions.
As for IM+ they haven't updated the app to Mango yet but it's coming.
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i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
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Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO

blanket said:
i'm staying on IM+ cos miyota's messenger suck. but the new versions of IM+ has no more messenger support, and i doubt future updates will have it any time soon
so it's actually quite irrelevant to me cos
1. i lose messenger functionality if i update it
2. it is still quite laggy if i don't
oh well...
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I (and others) updated twice and still haven't lost WLM. The way I understand it, as long as you update and don't reinstall it stays there. But just in case you're unlucky I'm not telling you to go ahead and do it
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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I actually like having dedicated apps for IM, same for twitter. The only app I've stopped using is facebook because the implementation is quite complete in WP7.
I would say it's probably down to UI for me, I find IM+ easier to manage than the built-in messaging for whatever reason (same for twitter) but they really need to upgrade it to Mango.

Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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Agreed, the marketplace is depressing and the APIs were released ages ago.
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Agreed. Not sure what more MS could do to entice developers. They will even write your code for you ffs. We need developers to show some initiative, or will we have to wait for Windows 8 & WP8 integration to get it?

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Everything has gone downhill in the application scene after the mango... Didn't they released the so called APIs? So where are the new applications which were not possible to make before? Since mango all we saw were updates for 'fast app switching' which btw is not fst at all... And than we saw saw a dozen applications to pin a settings tile on front page... And than it just died. No new apps, no new games, everything in MP just died and came to a stall.
So much so far for the hyped API release..
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How much faster could the app switching be lol
I say give it some time. I am expecting we'll soon see apps like the announced Skype, Tango, Spotify apps etc. Mango hasn't even reached 100% roll out yet. Perhaps too they're waiting till the Gen 2 phones launch in the US.
Just within the last few days apps like LastFM, iHeartRadio, Tunein Radioa and Vevo got background audio streaming, pinnable stations and yes fast app switching So I think the pace is fine in terms of current apps getting updated. New apps will come soon.

This is going off-topic now, but I can probably guess at why developers have been slow with updating their apps for Mango.
When Microsoft released the Mango tools, they told us (the developers) that once we updated our apps to Mango, then we wouldn't be able to update our NoDo apps. They changed that, but quite close to Mango release so there wasn't all that much time to get on and update.
It also takes time for developers to actually implement the new features and APIs into their programs.

Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).

@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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dkp1977 said:
Why the heck would you need any 3rd party app in order to use live messenger or facebook? oO
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This is why the heck...firstly, I'm using my outlook account which tied to Australia region for my main account. While,my main account which is the one with all my messenger buddy is tied to my US. Therefore, I can't use the outlook account for messenger. And I even tried the following steps:
1)my main account is created few years ago, and it is tied to US. However, until now I still unable to change the live ID or merge with my current Australia account.
2)M$ don't support messenger for secondary windows live account.
3)tried to move all my active messenger buddy to outlook account,but M$ don't allow me to use live messenger on this outlook account. It keep showing error and need me the fix the password.
4)not willing to create a new live messenger account as I have spent around 30dollars on apps.

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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This ..
And lets not forget Mango has been available to developers for months now.. I think like 3 months already.
madmaximillian said:
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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It dosent have that functionality..

Peew971 said:
@Casey_boy that explains the slow pace of updates but not the lack of new apps.
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What lack of new apps? We're at 33k

madmaximillian said:
Does the built-in live messenger functionalityi n the WP7 messaging app support "see when they are typing" yet? You know, the "..." visual that tells you the other person is typing a message? That's kind of the whole point of messaging over data rather than texting (like BBM and iMessage).
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For most people the point of instant messaging is simply that it doesn't use text/ sms messages, it uses your data plan.

PG2G said:
What lack of new apps? We're at 33k
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your 'we have 33k app' rebuttal is like a toddler saying 'what game? i have rusty's poop to play with'..
here is my penny to keep you thinking and demand quality:
sms scheduler to automatically fire up and send sms on particular day and time.
call sms blocker.
dedicated agenda and appointment app. Pocket Informant.
a wallet app. code wallet pro.
last decent game which i didnt finish in a day was released on 5/18/11: plant vs zombies.
audio recorder to record incoming and outgoing calls automatically. resco audio recorder.
data monitor which records all ur wifi and data connection and gives a monthly/weekly/daily/yearly view. spb data monitor.
an app to collect total call duration peak/offpeak/weekends to warn when reaching calling plan limit. phone dashboard.

Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs

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Most of what you just listed isn't possible with the Mango APIs
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ya than stfu and dont tell people to look at your 33k apps.
apps after mango, apps after mango, microsoft will release APIs after mngo.. everyone had hopes on mango.. and now i dont know what APIs did they release.. because everytime i ask for any app i know the other person will come up with the same old 'oh thats not possible because MS didnt release that API..' bullshi*.
according to you the only apps developer can make with present API is to pin a tile and another RSS reader, combine it with flaslite and tip calculator and we have your 33K app you mentioned.

Groovesharks html5 app not gonna happen on WP7

I know its a bid old but it seems like no one talks about it. After several official and unofficial grooveshark apps has been pulled from the marketplaces, grooveshark has launched a html 5 version.
The problem is that it doesn’t work on windows phone even though i really like my windows phone this is a ground breaker too me.
I really want wp to succeed but the pile of things that wp doesn’t yet support or "missing" is just too many.
http://devjar.me/post/16069427404/windows-phone-7-plagued-by-ie9s-flawed-ajax

There are other music applications on the marketplace. The only difference is that you need to pay for your music with those applications than on Grooveshark.

For me its two things:
1. Windows phone is lacking an important app
2. Other phone users sees this as another features wp is missing (as of proper html 5 support)
and what you are saying is like "oh we don't need skype, we have tango for free calls, and IMs for messaging"

Ability to save apps

The idea should be implemented into windows live or Zune that automatically resyncs all of your apps if you switch a device. I know there is an app to recover this info but it would be very nice upon initial setup that it give u the option to add the most recent apps from your last device. I love how simple windows live makes of syncing your contacts during initial setup. This process would involve the device doing a backup save of your last device
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A while back MS had a job posting asking for someone to help with exactly this. I suspect it means this feature will come proabaly with Apollo.

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The idea should be implemented into windows live or Zune that automatically resyncs all of your apps if you switch a device. I know there is an app to recover this info but it would be very nice upon initial setup that it give u the option to add the most recent apps from your last device. I love how simple windows live makes of syncing your contacts during initial setup. This process would involve the device doing a backup save of your last device
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+1
This is one of the best features of later android setups:
Setup gmail account, allow it to sync, and depending on connection speed between 5 and 15 minutes later, all your apps, info, contacts, even the wallpaper are exactly as the last device.
Using 3-4 different devices at once (same login) is as painful as swapping a sim.
Awesomeness.
Apollo = speculation, and when ?

Even updating my phone I had to literally write down most of my apps becuase I didnt purchase the apps from my computer through Zune most of the time. It took me forever to get them back. So painful. I hope they implement this soon, that would be great

this is the app that I use, pretty damn useful
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-NZ/apps/b9d1115b-2c0d-4e5d-afc6-fa6dcd84dda4

range152 said:
this is the app that I use, pretty damn useful
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-NZ/apps/b9d1115b-2c0d-4e5d-afc6-fa6dcd84dda4
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this is the one that i used to redownload and reinstalling my apps after got installed a new rom. great apps. but i like the idea, it would be better if zune save the App that we have installed before on our devices.