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Ok so after a few unsucesfull attempts to root with one click. I tried the gingerbreak no pc method. Root went fine it seemed and I have super user and root access. Ok so I installed rom manager and tried to flash clockwork 2.5.1.0 so I go to rom manager, choose flash rom, go to clockmod 2.5.1.0.zip hit ok and all that eventually it reboots into clockwork. But the only options are: reboot, flash update.zip, factory reset, and clear partition. So I chose the update zip one. It failed said it couldn't find updaten.zip so I tried that a few times no luck reboted and tried again..no luck so I went through 3 b utton push thing on a reset and clockwork doesn't open. I have to go through rom manager and when I do those are the only 3 options. Also when in clockwork. The camera button is not the ok/enter button as it should be I have to hit the home key for ok. So I tried to flash the fix for 5the home screen. Same issues. Where di I go wrong? How do I get going again? The phone works fine, wifi teather is working now. Just can't seem to get clockwork working or flash anything
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svcbadass said:
Ok so after a few unsucesfull attempts to root with one click. I tried the gingerbreak no pc method. Root went fine it seemed and I have super user and root access. Ok so I installed rom manager and tried to flash clockwork 2.5.1.0 so I go to rom manager, choose flash rom, go to clockmod 2.5.1.0.zip hit ok and all that eventually it reboots into clockwork. But the only options are: reboot, flash update.zip, factory reset, and clear partition. So I chose the update zip one. It failed said it couldn't find updaten.zip so I tried that a few times no luck reboted and tried again..no luck so I went through 3 b utton push thing on a reset and clockwork doesn't open. I have to go through rom manager and when I do those are the only 3 options. Also when in clockwork. The camera button is not the ok/enter button as it should be I have to hit the home key for ok. So I tried to flash the fix for 5the home screen. Same issues. Where di I go wrong? How do I get going again? The phone works fine, wifi teather is working now. Just can't seem to get clockwork working or flash anything
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Okay, a few things first:
1. Narrow down your problem, your description is far from clear and concise
2. If you're having problems with ClockWorkMod, search their threads for your answers, or post your question there
3. Why are you using Gingerbreak? That's for, Gingerbread. You shouldn't be messing with a leaked and buggy Rom if you don't know what you're doing.
My suggestion is to go to the Clockworkmod thread. Check out version 3 in my signature. All your problems are likely answered there. But I can't answer them for you, regardless, because you neglected to mention why you resorted to this frazzled method. If you want to pursue this method, you'll have to go back to the forum you got it from for your answers, but I recommend starting over.
GOOGLE any question you have with "XDA" in the search bar and I promise that your question has already been answered.

Well I tried to do one click 4 times and could never root. I fund this gingerbreak method in the samsung epic 4g dev area. I ran it and I have root. I had no other idea what to do at the time to gain root. I have rea through the clockwork area but none of the help answerd seemed to have the same issues as me. Sorry. Ill keep reading. I been tryin. At thi since Friday afternoon n just getting frutrated
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The reason the One Click didn't work is because you didn't turn off your AV and it kept deleting the single most important part of it.

svcbadass said:
Well I tried to do one click 4 times and could never root. I fund this gingerbreak method in the samsung epic 4g dev area. I ran it and I have root. I had no other idea what to do at the time to gain root. I have rea through the clockwork area but none of the help answerd seemed to have the same issues as me. Sorry. Ill keep reading. I been tryin. At thi since Friday afternoon n just getting frutrated
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A couple dumb questions:
1. Is your computer detecting your phone?
You may have a cable problem.
2. Is your phone properly recognized?
You likely haven't installed the drivers listed on the OneClick page for 32 bit and 64 bit computers.
3. Have you attempted to Odin back to stock?
In the first line of my signature you will see a link to Syndicate Rom Frozen and CWM Odin. Download that rom to your phone. Then follow the other link and download the EB13 pre-rooted with CWM 3.0.0.6. Odin the necessary files as the page tells you to, then boot into CWM, and flash Syndicate Rom Frozen. Follow all directions where applicable. When your phone is happy, shutdown properly. Three finger boot into CWM. Backup your phone, and then RESTORE that backup immediately. Journaling will be on. You will be happy. Any future problems from there will have been answered in the Syndicate thread.
Edit: I see k0nane beat me to the punch! I still recommend following the directions as I laid out above, this should be an easier fool-proof process for you. Otherwise, I yield to k0nane's expertise.

Don't use ROM manager. It is very buggy with the Epic.
Do you BONSAI?

kennyglass123 said:
Don't use ROM manager. It is very buggy with the Epic.
Do you BONSAI?
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Very true, but the directions for Gingerbreak actually told him to use it for this computer-less root method.

Thanks for all the help so far. So what's better than rom manager?
Is there a way to just install clockwork right now? I am not wanting a custom rom or anything else. The only reason I am rooting at all is to fix the lock screen date.
If I could just install clockwork from where I am at now that would be helpfull.
Id like to keep all my settings and apps n such just as they are I finaly have this thing kinda doing what I want I really don't wana mess with it too much more.
Thanks for all the help so far.
My biggest issue with rooting so far has been my lack of access to a computer that I can use to do the roting. I get pc access but getting access to one I can download to doesn't happen often
Thanks again
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Very true, but the directions for Gingerbreak actually told him to use it for this computer-less root method.
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Yeah, there is very little choice for computerless rooting.
Do you BONSAI?

svcbadass said:
Thanks for all the help so far. So what's better than rom manager?
Is there a way to just install clockwork right now? I am not wanting a custom rom or anything else. The only reason I am rooting at all is to fix the lock screen date.
If I could just install clockwork from where I am at now that would be helpfull.
Id like to keep all my settings and apps n such just as they are I finaly have this thing kinda doing what I want I really don't wana mess with it too much more.
Thanks for all the help so far.
My biggest issue with rooting so far has been my lack of access to a computer that I can use to do the roting. I get pc access but getting access to one I can download to doesn't happen often
Thanks again
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I have the same issue, I actually downloaded CWM, Roms, and everything to my phone and then loaded them to my work computer. Use dolphin mini if the default browser gives you issues downloading.
Syndicate has a flash-able fix for the date, is that what you want to apply? I just put it on for the hell of it, but I have to tell you, after May, you won't see a problem with any other month. If that's your only reason for rooting, you may just want to stick it out for this month, just saying.

Yeah that's really the only reason I'm rooting.
Thanks for all the help!
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Lost clockwork mod, don't know what to do....

To start things off, let me just say that I just installed the stock eh17 rom and put the AIO mod on top of it and this is the best looking and most stable that my phone has been since making the leap to gingerbread. However....the AIO mod wiped out CWM recovery for some reason and reverted me to stock. As far as I can tell I'm still rooted, I did the terminal test, I have SU, and wireless tether for root users which works fine....but no CWM.
Now I know most would say just odin it back but here in lies my second problem which probably deserves a thread of its own but ties in with this one. My pc just up and stopped recognizing my epic. I have 3 different cables two crap samsung and a better one, none of which work in ANY of my ports. I just odin'd EH06 like a week ago, but still I have tried updating my drivers with no avail. My device manager does not recognize or list my android device at all, I have uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled them, I have rebooted both devices several times and still get nothin. The only thing that I remember chaning between when it worked and when it didn't was I flashed an ext4 rom...could that be it? I've tried going back and it still doesn't work....
Anywa...deep breath...my main question is, is there a way to get CWM back on a rooted, deodexed, supuer user granted phone? Or am I screwed in that department? I guess on the bright side if I can't mod my phone anymore, at least its stable and looks good.....
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Sometimes you can have 2 recoveries at one time. Have you tried 3 finger boot and rom manager to get into recovery?
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Just run one click root again
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So what do you get when you three finger into recovery? Stock recovery?

I get stock recovery and I have tried rom manager to no avail.....I also tried downloading it and running it as a update zip but it said the signatures were bad...
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bugzy3188 said:
I get stock recovery and I have tried rom manager to no avail.....I also tried downloading it and running it as a update zip but it said the signatures were bad...
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Yeah, you can only use signed update.zips. If no computer recognizes your phone then nothing will get CWM recovery back on. ADB needs to see your phone. if you have done the whole different cables, different ports, new drivers thing then you are mostly screwed. There is an EH17 Update.zip in development you can try.
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Well crap....until this point I thought it might not be too bad...I love the setup I have now and I haven't had a reboot or FC in 24 hours time...that is, until I tried to edit my contacts...they're not there!! Not just my conacts, the whole contacts app!! This really sucks...
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Nvm found a contacts app in the market...
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Hey, try running the Samsung 1.3.08 driver pack in XP Service Pack 3 Compatibility Mode (via Rclick>Properties over the msi or exe file in Win7). Once installed just close. Then go to the [Guide] [Recovery] [Heimdall] Clockwork Mod 3.1.0.1 Purple Heimdall Epic thread here in Epic Android Development section.. Down and install Heimdall and run the driver pack (you may have to run PDANet as well). This is only the only way I can get reconnected in DL mode once my drivers go bat-****, which for some reason they do about every 6 weeks.
And after Heimdall recognizes your Epic, you can just shut it down and use Odin for your tar-balling fix if that is your fancy because after that Odin will COM your Epic again as well.
PM me if you need help on this, I am up till 2am most nights
If you are still on GB, only flash the recovery. Otherwise you are safe to flah kernel as well.
As far as all the driver crap

Heimdall has it's own driver pack to install. And is more robust. You will be able to install just the recovery this way. I used it to swap out Bonsai recovery with CWM 3.1.0.1.

Odin vs CWM

Hey guys. Ive been using this forum for a long time. Just recently registered to start actively participating. Ive rooted and used roms before, so i am not completely green.
Anyway i got a sprint samsung epic 4g touch yesterday. I have already rooted once using odin and gone back to stock.
What i cant find anywhere is why certain roms can apparenly be flashed onto the phone with odin and others require cwm. I have not been able to get cwm installed yet.
This is my first post so thanks and please be gentle.
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In theory any ROM that can be flashed in CWM can be flashed in ODIN. It just takes different setup work.
In practice, it is easier to flash ROMs through CWM if that is all you are updating.
Personally I only use ODIN if I want to update many different components (for example modem, kernel, and ROM) to a known state as it is more convenient to use a single package.
For day to day stuff usually use CWM.

garradalexanderkiss said:
I have not been able to get cwm installed yet.
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You may know this already, but easiest way I've found to install CWM is by following the instructions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

Freaking Clockworkmod: got me again.

Oh, CWM, how MUCH I can't stand thee:
Anyway, here's a long version:
I can't stand using CWM for recovery.
(I initially had an OG Evo, and it was nothing but a headache, so I always used AmonRa, successfully, and use that or TWRP on my ALL my other devices, where I can...
I'very made other posts about its issues, and have gotten into it with Koush online before about all the problems with it, and how he just let's so many versions out into the wild that aren't working for different phones...
With the ET4G, I kinda had to use it, and was able to flash a working version thru Odin.
Whatever, I was able to use it.
Lately, Koush releases a touchscreen version, there are stories about it all over the web: so I go into Rom Manager to check it out:
It tells me that it's not yet compatible with the ET4G, but that my version of CWM is outdated, so I should flash a newer CWM....
LIKE AN IDIOT, I agreed.
Now, just when I finally have a chance to flash CM9 on my ET4G, after waiting SOOOOO long?
I can't.
Because now, my recovery's totally borked.
I can't even get my phone to do anything but bootloop the CM7 animation, and download mode is the only thing I can get into.
Now, I'm gonna have to spend all this time today fixing what shouldn't be messed up in the first place instead of enjoying CM9 like I should be doing.
(BTW: Koush, if you're listening: this will be the last time for sure I ever fall for that again.)
Yeah, I'm mad, Bro.
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.

_MetalHead_ said:
Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks you are a wise and gracious man with your help......

_MetalHead_ said:
I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Oh, yeah: I can fix it, but my wife has my laptop till like 7pm, and I really don't wanna mess with drivers, Odin, all, that stuff on my desktop. I keep all my Android stuff on one PC (laptop) and I like having ADB, drivers, all that stuff, in one place...Just kinda threw a rock into my chain, on today of all days...
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Edit: And, yeah, I knew that used to be the case with CWM (needed kernel flash), but when a known high-level dev is telling me basically, that "this updated version will work for that very specific Android device that you have", and that "I can use his app to flash it", I guess I wanted to believe him...
Eff that guy: He needs to spend less time stacking his money, and more time having some accountability for what he releases to the public.
/End rant.

So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.

Bielinsk said:
So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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How much magic does it take to remove the ET4G from Rom Manager's compatability list?
I'd bet not too much: In fact, I'd bet I could learn that trick in one short weekend.
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If you're still rooted Mobil odin

Nandroid hardly ever works for me, it usually fails during the restore.

just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.

drksilenc said:
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
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I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...

I love the new clockwork mod touch recovery. I actually like it better than twrp2.0. Only thing I like about twrp is you can compress the backups. The new cwm touch was just released for the ns4g.
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I agree ROM manager is useless in the galaxy s4g forums its ROM Mangler.
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playya said:
I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
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I know, I know...
(And I'm back up with CM9 on my ET4G: used my desktop, couldn't wait all day), and believe me: there's probably no one who's more outspoken about their anti-cwm/rommanagerness than I am: I'm just mad at myself for believing that the new update would work..
Oh well, lesson (re)learned....
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This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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eao1991 said:
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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Originally Posted by eao1991
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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I use the extended power options for that...but obviously the rom needs to include it which most do now. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for ever buying rom manager but I guess it was the noob in me.
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Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.

CBowley said:
Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
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For our phone.

There's definitely nothing wrong with CWM. Blame rom manager if you must place the blame anywhere besides yourself.

I bought rom manager to support clockworkmod and have access to the latest clockworkmod versions. I think they have provided a wonderful tool. Anyway, I actually never used it except to check for roms and latest clockworkmod.
I've flashed the touch version of clockworkmod (downloaded the .img file from the clockrkmod web site) on my ns4g using adb and fastboot (thanks to Paul627 for the tutorial).
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ROM Manager

I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Linux215 said:
I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Yes it does. I use it all the time. Do NOT use any form of touch recovery. There is one out there that is safe but right now do NOT use touch recovery.
Touch recovery has been blamed for bricking phones best to steer clear of it altogether.
There are some issues with Rom Manager, I'm sure someone will let you know. FYI, Rom manager uses a v5.0.2.7 CWM based recovery for our phone. Do not use it with any of the ICS based roms, cwm is not compatible with them currently.

Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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Linux215 said:
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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The gingerbread based ROMs usually come with a kernel that has recovery built-in so those are safe to use the way they are.
Can't emphasize enough though not to use recovery in ICS though.

Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Linux215 said:
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Ah gotcha. First of all, I wouldn't recommend using rom manager to do anything but backups and restores. Yes, you can click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, make sure you select the 'Samsung Epic 4G Touch'.
Lastly, I have no friggin clue what those roms/rom updates are listed there and how they get flashed or what would happen if something goes sideways so I stick with the XDA known and tried roms that you can get support for.
You cannot use Rom Manager because these need to be flashed according to the instructions posted with each rom. They are almost identical and its very easy to do.
Short version is, I recommend Rom Manager as an easy way to backup and restore your android OS from an interface. Beyond that, I think you're taking unecessary risks. There's a thread around here somewhere about how Rom Manger is very very bad.

I would recommend you read the instructions for any thread you are planning on utilizing closely and follow the directions listed in those threads. Don't assume past Android experience gives a license to skim the reading. Every phone is slightly different and has nuances that can become issues of glossed over. There are often reasons why the instructions are written the way they are.

I've had this phone for a while now, I was just re installing some apps and seen it and just wanted to know if it had a section for our phone that's its
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when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Tungsten c said:
when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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You should not use rom manager, especially if you are on an ICS rom. It needs to install its own version of cwm and could royally mess up the phone.
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Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Tungsten c said:
Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Best bet is what you said - Power Off, then power+volume up to get into a recovery. As for recovery Agat's has been great! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065 and there are some specifically for CM9 and AOKP so if you plan on flashing any of those check those threads.