So just now I took my phone out of my pocket, and hit the power button to wake it up.
The screen stayed blank.
I then pressed and held the power button. The LG logo came up like usual when you're powering it on. I thought oh brother it must've turned itself off.
Then the logo didn't go away. It just stayed there. So I pressed and held the button again. Every time I did that, the screen would go black, but then start booting again.... without me having pressed the power button to turn it on. And the LG logo would hang, and the phone would not do anything.
So for the first time since I've owned this phone, I had to do a battery pull. A testament to wp7 is that I didn't even know how to open it. I hadn't had to.
With the NoDo patheticness, and now this, I'm starting to get a realllllll funny feeling I've been "fooled twice". Please don't give me the "early adopter" nonsense, we bought a product. It should work. It's that simple.
The sad thing is, I'm one of the biggest supporters of the wp7 OS. But I cannot f*cking believe I had to do a battery pull. Utter garbage. If I was wealthy, I'd throw this piece of **** in the garbage and go buy an iPhone.
(maybe not as I still enjoy the OS, but it's pretty upsetting)
So here's to hoping MS has media scans and sees this.
Thanks a lot Microsoft. You obviously haven't learned a ****ing thing.
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So just now I took my phone out of my pocket, and hit the power button to wake it up.
The screen stayed blank.
I then pressed and held the power button. The LG logo came up like usual when you're powering it on. I thought oh brother it must've turned itself off.
Then the logo didn't go away. It just stayed there. So I pressed and held the button again. Every time I did that, the screen would go black, but then start booting again.... without me having pressed the power button to turn it on. And the LG logo would hang, and the phone would not do anything.
So for the first time since I've owned this phone, I had to do a battery pull. A testament to wp7 is that I didn't even know how to open it. I hadn't had to.
With the NoDo patheticness, and now this, I'm starting to get a realllllll funny feeling I've been "fooled twice". Please don't give me the "early adopter" nonsense, we bought a product. It should work. It's that simple.
The sad thing is, I'm one of the biggest supporters of the wp7 OS. But I cannot f*cking believe I had to do a battery pull. Utter garbage. If I was wealthy, I'd throw this piece of **** in the garbage and go buy an iPhone.
(maybe not as I still enjoy the OS, but it's pretty upsetting)
So here's to hoping MS has media scans and sees this.
Thanks a lot Microsoft. You obviously haven't learned a ****ing thing.
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I got labeled as "argumentative" and a "troll" for saying what you just said. And was infracted.
Well (as you know) there's no trolling in my post.
I'm the type that when I buy something, I expect it to work. Little glitches here and there I get. But when the thing CAN'T. TURN. ON...
it's like I'm back in 2007 with my HTC Touch. Ridiculous.
When you purchase a car, would you get upset if all of a sudden the thing wouldn't turn on? Well guess what, an automobile is miles more complicated than a cell phone. It just shouldn't be a problem.
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So just now I took my phone out of my pocket, and hit the power button to wake it up.
The screen stayed blank.
I then pressed and held the power button. The LG logo came up like usual when you're powering it on. I thought oh brother it must've turned itself off.
Then the logo didn't go away. It just stayed there. So I pressed and held the button again. Every time I did that, the screen would go black, but then start booting again.... without me having pressed the power button to turn it on. And the LG logo would hang, and the phone would not do anything.
So for the first time since I've owned this phone, I had to do a battery pull. A testament to wp7 is that I didn't even know how to open it. I hadn't had to.
With the NoDo patheticness, and now this, I'm starting to get a realllllll funny feeling I've been "fooled twice". Please don't give me the "early adopter" nonsense, we bought a product. It should work. It's that simple.
The sad thing is, I'm one of the biggest supporters of the wp7 OS. But I cannot f*cking believe I had to do a battery pull. Utter garbage. If I was wealthy, I'd throw this piece of **** in the garbage and go buy an iPhone.
(maybe not as I still enjoy the OS, but it's pretty upsetting)
So here's to hoping MS has media scans and sees this.
Thanks a lot Microsoft. You obviously haven't learned a ****ing thing.
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I understand your frustration. I've hard to do about 4 battery pulls on my Samsung Focus. Most of those times the device froze in the Music + Videos hub while playing music. But all in all, that's a lot better than my old WM6.1 phone. Especially because WP7 boots in about 35 seconds instead of the full 1-2 minutes for WM6.
I'm not complaining because let's face it, all products have problems. Some manufacturers *cough*Apple*cough* just choose to call them features or ignore them entirely. How many times has the iPhone alarm had bugs that caused the alarm to not work or go off late? I think it has happened every time we transitioned into or out of DST for the past 2 or 3 years. Moreover, if the iPhone freezes and you can't power it off, you can't remove the battery. Not only might it take hours for the device to die, during which you can't use it. But when it does die, you have to wait for it to recharge from 0%. I don't know about others here, but I'll take WP7 over iOS any day.
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Well (as you know) there's no trolling in my post.
I'm the type that when I buy something, I expect it to work. Little glitches here and there I get. But when the thing CAN'T. TURN. ON...
it's like I'm back in 2007 with my HTC Touch. Ridiculous.
When you purchase a car, would you get upset if all of a sudden the thing wouldn't turn on? Well guess what, an automobile is miles more complicated than a cell phone. It just shouldn't be a problem.
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There wasn't any trolling in my post back then either. But I still received an infraction. In fact, you were one who called me a troll.
steve10 said:
I understand your frustration. I've hard to do about 4 battery pulls on my Samsung Focus. Most of those times the device froze in the Music + Videos hub while playing music. But all in all, that's a lot better than my old WM6.1 phone. Especially because WP7 boots in about 35 seconds instead of the full 1-2 minutes for WM6.
I'm not complaining because let's face it, all products have problems. Some manufacturers *cough*Apple*cough* just choose to call them features or ignore them entirely. How many times has the iPhone alarm had bugs that caused the alarm to not work or go off late? I think it has happened every time we transitioned into or out of DST for the past 2 or 3 years. Moreover, if the iPhone freezes and you can't power it off, you can't remove the battery. Not only might it take hours for the device to die, during which you can't use it. But when it does die, you have to wait for it to recharge from 0%. I don't know about others here, but I'll take WP7 over iOS any day.
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Good point about the iPhone battery. Every time my wife's iPhone glitches, I wince thinking... what if the battery needs to be pulled.
Like I said, I still love the wp7 OS, it's just, after the absolute disaster of wm, it's very........ frustrating.
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There wasn't any trolling in my post back then either. But I still received an infraction. In fact, you were one who called me a troll.
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Well I probably thought you were, I dunno.
I'm still not sure, as weren't you the one that was pushing all the Palm OS people to vote in the mobile OS bracket?
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Well I probably thought you were, I dunno.
I'm still not sure, as weren't you the one that was pushing all the Palm OS people to vote in the mobile OS bracket?
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Do you consider WP7 better, all around, than WebOS? And the WebOS was well after the infraction and all the allegations upon mysellf.
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Do you consider WP7 better, all around, than WebOS? And the WebOS was well after the infraction and all the allegations upon mysellf.
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I don't understand the point of your counter-question. I've never used it, I'm sure it's solid, but it doesn't interest me.
...maybe it's cause I'm looking forward to the weekend, but I don't understand this:
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the WebOS was well after the infraction and all the allegations upon mysellf.
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I don't know what that means...
So someone was posing as you on the Palm forums? You did it to just for kicks after getting an infraction?
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I don't understand the point of your counter-question. I've never used it, I'm sure it's solid, but it doesn't interest me.
...maybe it's cause I'm looking forward to the weekend, but I don't understand this:
I don't know what that means...
So someone was posing as you on the Palm forums? You did it to just for kicks after getting an infraction?
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Why the question about WebOS. I had nothing to do with WebOS when I was busy in this forum and posting my displeasure at how WP7 was turning. I received an infraction without anything to do with WebOS. So why bring that up?
If you want to see the mirror image of my infracted post compared to your post, just visit my profile.
Never had this problem. Till now all issue can be solved with soft-reboot for me.
Only phone of all the US released devices I've ever had to battery pull was the Surround... that thing is just a terrible excuse for a WP7 device...
I think carriers delaying the NoDo update are making some people angry at MSFT. All those emotional posts today didn't forget to mention waiting for update.
The problem is.. WHAT THESE ****ING CARRIERS HAVE TO DO ABOUT IT?
Oh god. They just sucks! Put the ****ing network to work and do not worry about the handsets. Let MS, Google and Apple deal with it. No. They have to screw it around.
And COME ON MS!
First I needed to buy my Trophy from another country (btw, I don't even know wich one). All I know it is Vodafone from somewhere in the east.
I can't buy a simple app, even if my Credit card is international. I can't update. I have to deal with these bugs.. So, yes, I'm with you. Seriously, I have an iPhone 4. And when I got my trophy, I put it away and started to play with WP7.
Now, I just put my Trophy away, because iOS is so much more reliable then WP7. I wish it was from Apple.
It would be perfect (;
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I think carriers delaying the NoDo update are making some people angry at MSFT. All those emotional posts today didn't forget to mention waiting for update.
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Oh I'm sorry, you're right. I made up the phone freezing because I'm "emotional".
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Why the question about WebOS. I had nothing to do with WebOS when I was busy in this forum and posting my displeasure at how WP7 was turning. I received an infraction without anything to do with WebOS. So why bring that up?
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I definitely remember screenshots of a "MartyLK" in the Palm forums trying to get people to vote over and over?...
Someone posted it in a thread here. That's the only reason I bring it up.
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I definitely remember screenshots of a "MartyLK" in the Palm forums trying to get people to vote over and over?...
Someone posted it in a thread here. That's the only reason I bring it up.
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Well..it had nothing to do with my infracted post. I mean, I didn't receive an infraction because of the WebOS bit.
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Well..it had nothing to do with my infracted post. I mean, I didn't receive an infraction because of the WebOS bit.
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No no, I didn't mean or think that. It's unrelated to your infraction. Just a question I always had; ie if you were pumping people to vote for WebOS, why are you here talking about wp7?
Phones, as with other computing devices, tend to crash and freeze sometimes. iPhone, Android, WP7 - they all have their moments. That is reality. For a person that "loves" WP7 so much to go off the deep end after 1 - a single - crash... Well lets just say that maybe it's time to put the phone down for a bit and take a deep breath. Eh?
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Phones, as with other computing devices, tend to crash and freeze sometimes. iPhone, Android, WP7 - they all have their moments. That is reality. For a person that "loves" WP7 so much to go off the deep end after 1 - a single - crash... Well lets just say that maybe it's time to put the phone down for a bit and take a deep breath. Eh?
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It isn't just the crash, in this poster's case. WP7 is buggy as Hell, in my case, anyway. And it has none of the common features smartphones have. It was billed as being updated aggressively by MS rather than the carriers and that important features is missing...the updates aren't coming. MS is being slower than a snail about how they are building WP7 up. People are just losing patience and have had enough. People that once were staunch supporters of WP7 have turned against it. You have to conclude there is something wrong or else you are just poking your head in the sand.
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I encourage anyone concerned about the availability of the 3 button download mode, or other issues, to comment on the Samsung Facebook page. I already posted a comment and got a response I find somewhat disturbing... maybe there is strength in numbers.
http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobi...omment#!/samsungmobilecanada?v=wall&ref=notif
Make sure he doesn't duck the question. 3 button means that experienced end users can actually fix a bad flash (lol @ Kies) without having to lose their phone for a month (Allgamer is at the 3 week mark now after sending his phone in).
Hopefully they will provide an answer. I have since returned mine back to Future Shop. I've tried 4 other phones hoping to be able to do an exchange, but all of them had 3 button recovery disabled. If they release a fix for this I will buy the phone in an instant.
I saw your post over there...
Exactly what I figured their response would be... I for one am not holding my breath for an update through Samsung to enable 3 button recovery.
They messed though by inexplicably letting some through with it enabled...Makes it hard to justify why some have it and some don't... If anything, expect an update to disable it on the ones that have it enabled!
I hope otherwise, but in all seriousness, the majority of users will likely never have to use recovery and the average user out there is not an xda-developpers member. Yes, Samsung will have to deal with bricks but probably in their mind, they are making it slightly harder to do 'unauthorized' stuff.
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I am also not holding my breath...
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Hopefully they will provide an answer. I have since returned mine back to Future Shop. I've tried 4 other phones hoping to be able to do an exchange, but all of them had 3 button recovery disabled. If they release a fix for this I will buy the phone in an instant.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. No recovery mode, no sale.
xtoad said:
I saw your post over there...
Exactly what I figured their response would be... I for one am not holding my breath for an update through Samsung to enable 3 button recovery.
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Please add a comment, the more the better!
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. No recovery mode, no sale.
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Meh, I am not going that far. Recovery mode is a nice to have but it is not going to deprive me of the best phone on the market by miles (there is not a phone that is going to be better than the 3GS for at least 6 months or more, nothing is in the pipeline that comes close)
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Please add a comment, the more the better!
Meh, I am not going that far. Recovery mode is a nice to have but it is not going to deprive me of the best phone on the market by miles (there is not a phone that is going to be better than the 3GS for at least 6 months or more, nothing is in the pipeline that comes close)
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Until you accidentally brick it, then you are paying $60 a month while it goes off to get fixed. Yes, it's awesome hardware, but without 3 button, it's not worth it to me. I'm also stubborn enough to demand a resolution to this issue before forking out the money a 2nd time
I've left a comment of the Facebook page. Let's hope someone hears something. Going back to using my iPhone has killed me.
wow samsung come on your slacking
Samsung Mobile Canada Hi Jason. 3 button download mode is for internal firmware functions and is not recommended to end-users. It’s typically used by technicians to service malfunctioning phones. Modifying the internal firmware on a mobile phone device may void the warranty. What function you are trying to do? Maybe we can help find another way. Feel free to reach out to us at 1-800-SAMSUNG and we'll see how we can help. Thank
sounds like they could fix it but might not if your dumb enough to flash your bell sgs and have the 3 button combo disabled best of luck to you
haha sumsung cant ignore facebook
ive taken back 6 phones 600x6 is 3600 worth of phones lol and they all didnt have recovery so i took them back best buys 100% satisfaction guarantee gotta love it
Smash them boys!
I strongly recommend that you start new fresh posts each time instead of replying into a long one. Multiple posts on the wall are much more visible and potentially effective.
Come one guys, hit them hard (while staying polite obviously)
Posted on the wall.
Good idea will post to wall
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done my part
they will hate it, i hope they don't remove it
just for reference the correct link to the wall is
http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada#!/samsungmobilecanada
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Until you accidentally brick it, then you are paying $60 a month while it goes off to get fixed. Yes, it's awesome hardware, but without 3 button, it's not worth it to me. I'm also stubborn enough to demand a resolution to this issue before forking out the money a 2nd time
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If I am unlucky enough to brick it (which, despite my rants, is pretty hard to actually do in practice.... as long as you are flashing with a stable laptop it is not going to brick), then I'll get it replaced under warranty. The odds of me flashing it again after Froyo is out are near zero.
See, unlike WinMo, you don't have to re-flash Android to customize it, nearly everything on the phone can be customized in-line. All the stuff Cyogen etc. are doing can be done without flashing the phone, so you don't have to worry about bricking it
I learned from my years with my HTC dev. that re-flashing every few weeks is a huge pain in the butt, and I don't plan on doing that again with this phone.
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I strongly recommend that you start new fresh posts each time instead of replying into a long one. Multiple posts on the wall are much more visible and potentially effective.
Come one guys, hit them hard (while staying polite obviously)
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Be careful, if you post too many things on the wall, they will just get frustrated and get Facebook to remove all the posts. You can do that with paid Facebook pages like this.
they removed one of my messages
Is there a way to send a signal to your phone to power it on? I know that the company Asurion can do this. It is a new feature now. I have heard about this here and there but never have looked into it.
Wrong section should be in q&a
from my phone duh
Maybe remote in ssh style or wireless adb and give the command shutdown.
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Not possible unless the phone isn't really off. If just the screen is off, sure, it's very easy. Check out WebKey for full remote control of your phone.
Take a step back and look at what you're asking:
You want to turn on the phone, using the cell radio, while the phone and said radio is off. Quite simply, this is impossible unless you have the phone turn itself on to check-in for a "turn on all the way" message. What Asurion does is tag the phone and send it commands, but they can't do that if the actual phone is off and/or the battery pulled out.
You're cellphone is never truly "off" unless the battery is removed from the device.
There is likely a way to do it, but this guy **points thumbs at self** does not know how.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html
Granted its an old article, but still gives light to what is possible.
And to the OP, I know what you are in reference too... I remember reading a while back that if a powerful enough signal is provided to a device the article was about wirelessly charging batteries from a far distance using towers rather than things like the touchstone and powermat type devices, and the device is able to interpret the signal and activate certain processes, it was in fact possible to charge wirelessly from a-far.
Same concept would be applied, but it would require a downloaded application to run 24/7 on your phone (on or off), unless you powered down by use of battery removal.
Why's everyone so quick to say that this is impossible? If it's impossible, how come with some phones, when the phone is off and an alarm is set, the phone will power on for the alarm to go off. I've seen it done. I'm sure a similar method could be used.
There is no doubt in my mind that this is imposable. I have read a few articles back in the day and even talked to a guy that worked in government security one day (I was selling him a phone) He was a manager over a department where all they do is watch for hackers all day long over networks for all sorts of corporations likes banks and what not. (there is a whole lot more to it than just that) Anywho, When I found out what line of work he was in, I could not help but ask him all sorts of questions. It took him a while to answer even start to answer them. We became buddy buddy I suppose enough for him to shed a little light on a few of mine. When I started asking him a couple of questions about some things I have read bout cell phones he was very very vague to the point where it looked like he was trying to tell me things without actually telling me. I was only able to get him to clearly answer one thing. I was asking him about GPS's in phones. He basically told me that most manufactures put many different alternate ways to access things on a cell phone. (did not specify what) He acted like it was government required or something. (Which I doubt) but he went on to say that there is a signal that you can send most phones that will send a GPS location back to the phone even if the phone is off. After he told me that I asked him about powering on the phone itself or powering on a direct (call) connection without the phone even coming on. (I have ready some pretty weird things) he basically was like "look there is no way around anything unless the battery is out of the phone, that's all I'm going to say" And I was all like "ok man". I also work for a phone company. Which is where I heard about Asurions new features. One of them which they claim, can wirelessly turn a phone on if it is off and the battery is not dead and call it for you or located it if you have lost it.
Which is basically why I am here asking these questions.
josh6780 - I'm confused is the conclusion of your story that it possible or IMpossible??
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zaner123 said:
josh6780 - I'm confused is the conclusion of your story that it possible or IMpossible??
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Same here.... :-/ the suspense is killing me!
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What's the point of this anyways. I never turn my phone off, there is no need to.
This is for when you might have lost your phone or if someone stole it and had it off.
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Same here.... :-/ the suspense is killing me!
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Exactly.............................
It's so cute. I think he is trying to use his big boy words.
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It's so cute. I think he is trying to use his big boy words.
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Are you really trying to make fun of me?
Your the guy that bought an EVO from a dude that claimed he got it at best buy without checking the ESN. Then you come on the boards and ask how to activate it because it's not working. Then you start a whole new post asking if you can flash an EVO that has been flashed to cricket, back to sprint..... go away dude.
No relevant knowledge to post but i sure as hell want somebody to check into it.
Im expecting a tutorial by the end of this week. Guys get to work!!!!!!!
easy method
there is an easy method to wirelessly power on your phone...
...with your finger. (ba-dap-da *crash*)
kallisti5 said:
there is an easy method to wirelessly power on your phone...
...with your finger. (ba-dap-da *crash*)
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Lol...never fails for me!
Anyways, I think anything is possible so long as it can be thought of...just my 2 cents...
raiden89 said:
Why's everyone so quick to say that this is impossible? If it's impossible, how come with some phones, when the phone is off and an alarm is set, the phone will power on for the alarm to go off. I've seen it done. I'm sure a similar method could be used.
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The phone is not off then. It's asleep. Big difference. Here's a simple test. The night before an important job interview/test at school/whatever, set an alarm. Hold the power button and choose "Power Off" from the menu. Go to sleep. See what happens.
I noticed that there would sometimes (50% chance) that there will be a noticeable 1 second delay when pushing the power button and when the display actually turns on. It's annoying because sometimes i'll want to check the time, and i'll push the button as i'm taking it out of my pocket only to be met with a black display still.
i tried turning off the pattern lock thinkng that was it but still having the same problem.
i'm completely stock.
No delay here...when I press the power button, my display comes on instantly.
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I noticed that there would sometimes (50% chance) that there will be a noticeable 1 second delay when pushing the power button and when the display actually turns on. It's annoying because sometimes i'll want to check the time, and i'll push the button as i'm taking it out of my pocket only to be met with a black display still.
i tried turning off the pattern lock thinkng that was it but still having the same problem.
i'm completely stock.
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This had already been discussed id you remove your sdcard the delay will go away.
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***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265716
Did you really just say 1 sec???? Lol really. If your Checking the time I doubt 1 sec is that annoying!
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***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life..
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Still thread ****ting on every topic about the delay?
Its obvious why the delay doesn't bother you; you already have too much time on your hands.
Otherwise, it's an obvious flaw in the phone. Why don't you let other people worry about their own lives and how many seconds are wasted.
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Did you really just say 1 sec???? Lol really. If your Checking the time I doubt 1 sec is that annoying!
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1 second is annoying when YOU'RE used to the display coming on instantly.
thanks for the link, i'll check it out.
yes its terrible anyone have a fix to this yet
If it's because of the SD card, trying increasing the SD Card Read Ahead Buffer. It can be built into the kernel or changed with a few market apps, or even a script. It'll also make photos/videos/anything from the SD card load faster.
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Still thread ****ting on every topic about the delay?
Its obvious why the delay doesn't bother you; you already have too much time on your hands.
Otherwise, it's an obvious flaw in the phone. Why don't you let other people worry about their own lives and how many seconds are wasted.
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Aren't we touchy! As long as people keep making threads about it , yes I will still state my opinion on the matter just like you are...have a good day sir.
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***** here about the 2 second loss of time in your life.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265716
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That's what I was thinking, who cares. Now that I check mine has the same thing, I never noticed and I really don't give a **** to try and "fix" this.. lol
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That's what I was thinking, who cares. Now that I check mine has the same thing, I never noticed and I really don't give a **** to try and "fix" this.. lol
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Amen brother...
Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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Agreed, especially since it's a 32GB card and it's transferable between phones...
Screen lags reminds me of pre-pay gas purchases.
The last 2cents always take forever to complete.
Sycobob said:
Isn't this forum built for people who want to get the most of their devices? If everyone just decided things were 'good enough' you wouldn't have devs here writing custom kernels and ROMs. If the issue doesn't bother you then don't bother posting in the thread. And if you absolutely must, don't be a douche about it.
OT: I noticed it too. This is my first smartphone, but it stood out. I assumed it was normal. It's not huge, but I definitely wouldn't mind a fix that didn't require abandoning my SD card.
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This is your first smartphone and it stood out to you? I have had 15 smartphones and would have never noticed it until someone mentioned it. Like I said, I don't see this as an issue so I will speak my peace as you can to..we agree to disagree and just because we don't see it your way doesn't make us a douche....sorry for the loss of time in your life I'm...oh ****!...I missed the Andy Rooney farewell on 60 minutes because I couldn't get the time on my phone because it came up 2 seconds too late!
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This is your first smartphone and it stood out to you? I have had 15 smartphones and would have never noticed it until someone mentioned it. Like I said, I don't see this as an issue so I will speak my peace as you can to..we agree to disagree and just because we don't see it your way doesn't make us a douche....sorry for the loss of time in your life I'm...oh ****!...I missed the Andy Rooney farewell on 60 minutes because I couldn't get the time on my phone because it came up 2 seconds too late!
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It's not a HUGE issue, but it is something that should be fixed.
In fact, just to move things forward, I tried increasing the SD Read Ahead Buffer with an app "SD Card Booster" or some name like that, which doesn't decrease the speed of the screen coming on, but does drastically cause photos and other things to load faster when you, say, open the Gallery. That was expected though. We used to increase it on the OG Evo.
Ive owned a few smartphones noticed ET lag after 3rd wake up.
First thing I thought of was Sprint Blackberry curve 8330-M.
It did the same thing drove me crazy lol
I tell you what...take your phone back to Sprint and tell them you have a 2 second lag and see what they say...maybe you can get a new phone...its obviously a defect...
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I tell you what...take your phone back to Sprint and tell them you have a 2 second lag and see what they say...maybe you can get a new phone...its obviously a defect...
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Its not hardware defect....its software related thus Sprint will push you out the door no new phone in hand with chuckles from rep.
Will update to fix issue come?
Never! so those that think samsung gives a care you better think twice.
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My HP Ipaq 6515 had wake up lag with SD card as well
I'm just thinking from Windows perspective, considering MS can corrupt files if you pull out laptop battery before shutting down the windows. How about with Android? If I pull out a battery before shutting it down, will anything in N2 going to get corrupted?
Here is why I'm asking. For anybody with Zerolemon, you can probably relate to this. The battery is huge and TPU case is tight, so on one occasion when I was taking case off I pulled the battery out as well. And in general, while I'm switching between TPU case and Defender mod, if I pull out a battery in the middle of use without shutting down N2, would it cause a problem?
i've tried it when its annoys me
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I don't think so. I've done it countless times, but I switch ROMs so often that *maybe* the slight software defects go unnoticed. I think its fine though.
Just a guess here, but I would say yes to this an any other electronic device BUT.................we have come a long way in the IT field!! Most Servers (I said Servers, not cell phones?) have an internal battery that prevents (in a way?) this sort of thing. I can pull the plug, but its still several seconds before it actually shuts down (depending on WHAT was actually running when I pulled the plug.)
With that said, and after I thought about it, maybe not. just like letting your battery die? Phone will shut itself off automatically to save settings, so there maybe a little juice just for this?
Just a thought.
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I'm just thinking from Windows perspective, considering MS can corrupt files if you pull out laptop battery before shutting down the windows. How about with Android? If I pull out a battery before shutting it down, will anything in N2 going to get corrupted?
Here is why I'm asking. For anybody with Zerolemon, you can probably relate to this. The battery is huge and TPU case is tight, so on one occasion when I was taking case off I pulled the battery out as well. And in general, while I'm switching between TPU case and Defender mod, if I pull out a battery in the middle of use without shutting down N2, would it cause a problem?
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The answer to your question is "it depends." It's like running a stop light. Maybe it's OK, maybe it's disaster.
I've been using Android since 2009 and I DID have one incident pulling the battery. I needed to change batteries and powered down. I was in a rush so I pulled the battery before it was fully down. Big mistake. When I put the new battery in and powered up I was at the factory reset. I had to reinstall everything. Very bad.
On the other hand, I've removed the battery, either on purpose or accidentally, many times over the years and only that one time did I have a problem.
I've been pulling batteries for years with no ill effects... He'll that's how we fixed glitches on blackberry and htc devices.
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I do it all the time and never had a problem. Android is based on Linux which is in turn quite different from windows. You don't need to shut down Linux either. You can just pull the plug out while you're in the desktop and apart from the fact you'll loose any unsaved changes to your documents there will be no ill effects.
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I have been pulling my battery for years, even in the old Windows Mobile & PocketPC days. The only thing, I could think of, is to be careful about **(in my opinion) is if you had something writing some type binary file to the external SD card.
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I do it all the time and never had a problem. Android is based on Linux which is in turn quite different from windows. You don't need to shut down Linux either. You can just pull the plug out while you're in the desktop and apart from the fact you'll loose any unsaved changes to your documents there will be no ill effects.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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No. I've been pulling batteries on over a dozen devices for years. Nothing will happen.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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This is true.
I dropped my phone, my battery fell out,v and all my data from Simpson's tapped out got corrupted. Rare, but it can still happen.
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Then you're lucky. The file system is still open and can get corrupted.
That's not to say I haven't done that, but pulling the battery from a running system is my last resort, not my first choice.
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Listen to this guy!! I have been in IT since 1983, pulling the battery could cost you millions! ($1.8Million to be exact) The good side, I got 50 shares of stock to fly to Dallas and rebuild server! :good: Listen to John, last resort.
What I have found with Android, as stated, if you have something open, you lose it AND you sometimes get 1/2 way up (Android Guy), then have to use power button to shut it off, then power button to cut it on. Good Luck!
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No. I've been pulling batteries on over a dozen devices for years. Nothing will happen.
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In general that's the point of using a journaling file system, but it is not complete immunity from corruption.
Rare, but not impossible.
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In general that's the point of using a journaling file system, but it is not complete immunity from corruption.
Rare, but not impossible.
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I agree with you 100%, not completely an assurance with a product like Visions Solutions ODS/OMS or MIMIX for journaling BUT, worst case, both servers are in same Data Center and you lose power and generator does not kick in? Best case, you only lose last transaction, role swap to target, activate user IP on target, let users work, switch them back when ready on source system, let journaling catch up.............
I've don't that a few times I guess you can tell John? Oh, and if you work for a Casino company, that property is losing 'X' hundreds of thousand of dollars a minute because all machines automatically shut down and you have some a** reminding you of such every 15 seconds or so and how they have to give customers free food and drinks to keep them from leaving and you need to work faster !! I should have studied harder in college and been doctor or lawyer like my mother said?
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It amazes me when I give a common sense best practice coming from far more years of experience than I would care to admit to; then having it dismissed in an off hand fashion of "it hasn't happened to me yet, so it can't be a problem." It only takes one time.
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It amazes me when I give a common sense best practice coming from far more years of experience than I would care to admit to; then having it dismissed in an off hand fashion of "it hasn't happened to me yet, so it can't be a problem." It only takes one time.
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Back on topic and to the OP, this guy (his name is John?) seem to know a few things. LISTEN to him!! You can pull that battery a million times successfully with no problem. It only takes ONCE and all hell breaks loose (like your in the middle of Android update or camera was open and you loose all you pictures?) there are other options, soft reset or ask someone here. You get an answer pretty fast.. ........
The only other thing I can add? Backup your phone often and move backup to your laptop, desktop, USB Drive.......Whatever. And if your into rooting and flashing ROM's, Titanium Backup is a must!! I think I paid like $9.00 but its a life saver!! I have mine auto set for 3AM Monday?,
Either way, good luck!
John,
Since we are all friends here, quick funny story. I worked for payroll processing company. we were doing new internet project and along the way, it never worked correctly. They hired this white boy (I will explain that later!) as president of some crap from M.I.T. and as I used to work for IBM, he wanted me. He had this bright idea to upgrade and do re-org on DB as same time. In planning this, I found IBM White Paper stating "Not to do this unless instructed by IBM Development?" I did not test this, I just showed idiot this paper? His thing was, "Don't worry about it, I will do it myself?" My thing to my direct manager..............I was told to leave him alone. I always knew DB2 and Orcale did not play nice. I know DB2, not Orcale, but I know they are not friends. Friday he did it, Saturday I was on my way to dallas!
Now said white boy as an a**! A A** to everyone around except me and another brother. He treated us like pets for some odd reason. BB (I use initials) leased a Lexus on company because he told him he was tired of putting mileage on his car? I got suite at hotel because I was working MAD hours and r.oom was killing me. One hand, I hated him. He dropped my bosses budget from $5Million to like $250K? but hey, he was hooking me up?
The VERY next Tuesday upon my return, he wanted to talk. Idiot had plan for Friday to again do this. My thing was, we need to bring in IBM Development. His thing was.,"I have 2 Masters from M.I.T, I don't need IBM!" I told my manager AND his boss at the same time (I'll never forget cause it seems like yesterday) "Don't call me this weekend and if you I will immediately resign!" Now me and my manager were like brothers, he** I loved him more then my actual brothers! We had travled the together, our families knew each other. He knew I was serious!
Friday I go to Happy Hour then Liquor Store for bottle of Remy' Martin and case of beer. 2:00AM I start to get hammered. 8:00AM doorbell rings, its my manager, he just tells me to read this! A note from CEO, fly to Dallas, fix AS400 (AS400? that funny cause they have changed Server name like 3 times since then?) and I will give you 50 shares of stock and anything Hardware Support needs? I'm drunk and tired and don't feel like packing crap. Manager says, I'll take you to PHL and go with you, we can get clothes in Dallas? Hum................
After my return, a few things changed!!! I personally had lunch with CEO (he was in another city, saw pictures, but never met him?) He told me this could never happen again. I told him I told his choice idiot, my manager, and 3 other VP's days before his planning, NOT to do it. He told me if I have any trouble out of idiot, call his cell phone and gave me his cell number. After him, idiot and I meet. What can we do to prevent this?
1. Don't do it again, bring in IBM. Done
2. The 11 guys in my department have been doing my work remotely and helping me on this internet project. They need new laptops. Thinkpads. 1.5GHz Duel Core with 2GB of memory (Hey, that was huge back then!) Done.
3. I have really been busting my a** from 7:30AM to 10:00PM 7 days a week. I really need some rest and get away. Additionally, I have no clue whats going on in my department............................I would have been fine with weekend in AC, 45 minute drive. Me, 11 people in my group including manger AND their family's flew to Disney. We had 2 hour meeting in conference room on Friday and partied like he** until Monday!!
Like you stated, it's one in a million pulling that battery, but if you get that once, there is a HUGE price attached!
Hope you all enjoyed my story!
Has anyone noticed that, for all its pixel density, there is some really poor-looking emphasis on edges? Lots of places throughout the stock UI, fonts, icons, etc, will have their edges brighter than the rest of the object. What's more is this is not uniformly applied, so you wind up with some words or icons having this edge detection going on, and in other places, things look properly "flat".
Frankly it makes this "beautiful" screen look really ugly, since the UI it displays looks really ugly.
You may be talking about the over sharpening issue that's been discussed to death on these forums. Hopefully LG fixes it with an OTA update, or we get it fixed with ROMS.
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You may be talking about the over sharpening issue that's been discussed to death on these forums. Hopefully LG fixes it with an OTA update, or we get it fixed with ROMS.
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Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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Glad you like it.
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Glad you like it.
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Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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You knew the buttons were on the back before you bought it so the error is yours if you find there placement an issue.
I think the screen is fantastic and don't have the problem you speak of.
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Lol, buying a device with buttons on the back...just to come on xda and complain about buttons on the back? Okie
As far as the screen sharpness, they do need to address it somehow because black text are indeed awful (not to the point i will complain about them awful though)
Should have done your homework before buying a device that OBVIOUSLY came with buttons on the back though...considering it was flashed all over the internet so you cannot say "oh i bought it and realized buttons were on the back" lol
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You knew the buttons were on the back before you bought it so the error is yours if you find there placement an issue.
I think the screen is fantastic and don't have the problem you speak of.
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You have it, it just doesn't bother you. Good for you, my eyes are pretty sharp though and don't need LG's help in that regard. Button placement? Sure. Sure I knew that beforehand. That does not mean it's my error. It's still LG's error. See, I can't really use this thing before I purchase it. They have display models in stores, but the backs (and often the sides) are covered in whatever anti-theft anchoring the store uses. It's not until I get the device home, have it in my pocket, that these usability errors can really make themselves felt. It didn't bother me while the device was in my hand, I thought, well, maybe I will just learn, in time, where my fingers should go. Fine.
But then, and imagine this scenario as being one I cannot replicate in a store with a demo model, the phone was laying face side up on my desk, and I wanted to turn the volume down. Or I wanted to turn the screen off. I can do that without picking the phone up with just about all other phones in the world. Inconvenient. This is a small issue! This is not a big deal. But. But I paid $600 for this, I am not supposed to have to put up with some minor inconvenience, is how I see it. For their flagship phone, the top of LG's current heap, they shouldn't have got any "small issues" wrong. But they did. They got this wrong. And while people replying to this thread seem to want to forgive LG, and that is your prerogative, I refuse to do so.
Doesn't your phone have knock code to switch the screen off? Or have volume controls in the notification area?
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Anyway, the screen looks terrible and the big beautiful screen is the biggest selling point (or am I wrong on this? some argue camera...).
I wouldn't return the phone because the buttons were on the back and yes, "lol", I knew they were there before, during, and after purchasing it.
The big beautiful screen turning out to be not very beautiful, now that, that I could return a phone over. There's not even an option to disable the over-sharpening. Tell me that is not a design failure.
Why is this thread even in existence? This topic been covered elsewhere and not to mention the rest of the post are off topic.
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Why is this thread even in existence? This topic been covered elsewhere and not to mention the rest of the post are off topic.
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Not in terms of the screen looking not very great.
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Not in terms of the screen looking not very great.
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You mean the sharpening?
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I have found that the stock theme/wallpapers/icons etc don't do the device any favors. Tweaking these things made the phone much more tolerable for me.
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You mean the sharpening?
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Including but not limited to. Sharpening is an issue, but since you cannot disable it, and since it is not by default enabled across all text rendering, not in all apps, etc, it's not uniform. The UI winds up non uniform. The entire graphical feel of it seems mixed and weird. So it made me feel like the display itself was not that great. I actually wondered if there was something physically wrong with my screen. Or, since it was not a uniform problem, was it only one part of the screen that was perhaps damaged or something.
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You have it, it just doesn't bother you. Good for you, my eyes are pretty sharp though and don't need LG's help in that regard. Button placement? Sure. Sure I knew that beforehand. That does not mean it's my error. It's still LG's error. See, I can't really use this thing before I purchase it. They have display models in stores, but the backs (and often the sides) are covered in whatever anti-theft anchoring the store uses. It's not until I get the device home, have it in my pocket, that these usability errors can really make themselves felt. It didn't bother me while the device was in my hand, I thought, well, maybe I will just learn, in time, where my fingers should go. Fine.
But then, and imagine this scenario as being one I cannot replicate in a store with a demo model, the phone was laying face side up on my desk, and I wanted to turn the volume down. Or I wanted to turn the screen off. I can do that without picking the phone up with just about all other phones in the world. Inconvenient. This is a small issue! This is not a big deal. But. But I paid $600 for this, I am not supposed to have to put up with some minor inconvenience, is how I see it. For their flagship phone, the top of LG's current heap, they shouldn't have got any "small issues" wrong. But they did. They got this wrong. And while people replying to this thread seem to want to forgive LG, and that is your prerogative, I refuse to do so.
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First, to your last post, the hardware buttons no software can address?
Tweaksbox can, they are hardware buttons like all others, it doesn't matter where they are on the device.
Turning the device off while flat on the table? Double tab the statusbar (yes, works with every launcher and in any app).
Sound: volume slider within notifications?!
If it's that much of an issue for you, swap it, simple as that, i do like having the buttons on the back, why? I can't press them by accident while gaming and i love the feel of having just the edges while in hand.
Last but not least, the oversharpening is your point, i don't really notice it and really like the screen, but that doesn't matter, that's just me, but anyways I'm pretty sure there will come an update for it, if not, that's xda, the bootloader unlock is almost released, there will be a fix for that, because, you know what, it's our device and we can mod the hell out of it if we like to. Every flagship has it's flaws, there isn't any perfect device on the market, if those of this device bug you too much, swap it for another, maybe those flaws you can stand.
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Buttons on the back is not an ERROR its lg DESIGN go to the lg 2 you will see, it wasn't thought over night...do not place your dislike on lg "error"
over sharpness been talked to death as it is. I never understand why people complain, don't like something return it. Its that much of an issue? return it. since I have gotten the phone I have only touched the volume keys for one, and only one thing....to take screen shot. Knock on puts the phone on for me, a simple double tap. If I want to be fancy, I can use the knock code or w.e the hell they call it. I only need my volume on two things, silent, vibration and sound...if its too loud notification is there to reduce it or voila...the buttons on the back a simple press will fix it.I do not need to move my hand in any weird kind of a way to do anything, I do not accidently have to press on the volume keys like i have done so many times.
The screen is beautiful without auto brightness. The oversharpness is batter of taste...you will either like it or you will hate it. You obviously hate it so very simple, return the phone instead of beating on the same dead horse. The screen is awful? we knoooooooooooooooooow from xda and all over the net and all over google + and every social media....the text are sharp? we knoooooooooooooooooooow...go return the phone.
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Buttons on the back is not an ERROR its lg DESIGN go to the lg 2 you will see, it wasn't thought over night...do not place your dislike on lg "error"
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I feel that it is an error.
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over sharpness been talked to death as it is. I never understand why people complain, don't like something return it. Its that much of an issue? return it.
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You are complaining about my complaints. I never understand why people complain about other people complaining. Don't like my complaint, ignore it. It's that much of an issue? Close your browser. :silly:
And with that, reported. We don't need another repetitive, argumentative thread that goes nowhere.
Than get rid of the error and return the phone like you said, no custom rom will fix that itch for you. Stop being a statistic of the list of people beating on the same dead horse.
Good luck on your future ventures I HOPE you do far more research on your next phone hunt huh? You rarely post in this forum as it is according to your junior status, member of 2011. Let hope the next post you choose to do about that phone wont result in something like this
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And with that, reported. We don't need another repetitive, argumentative post that goes nowhere.
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Thanks, i got lost in this lil banter. Lol see ya