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Seeing how iphone is popular with thier 99 cents games and apps do you think there should be a windows mobile 99cent store. It would be alot better for developers because people wouldnt mind paying 99 cents for a fun game or apps and it will cut down people looking for warez. I mean 29 dollars for a game or app is too much. And with that price volume would be high what do you think?
There doesn't seem to be any real competition in the Marketplace. I mean, if there were like 30 marble maddness-type games, then you'd find a lot for 99 cents.
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Well believe me the windows mobile marketplace doesnt allow games and apps made by 3rd party compilers to compete. They want everyone to use thier set of tools to make games and apps. Check out stores like mobi-hand which offer way better games and apps. I feel 99 cent price range will limit the amount of warez thats exploding . I seen some websites that have almost every game made for windows mobile for free. The price change is nessary.
Seeing how iphone is popular with thier 99 cents games and apps do you think there should be a windows mobile 99cent store.
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No. Let them charge whatever they want for their apps. If you don't want them, don't buy them.
common sense
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No. Let them charge whatever they want for their apps. If you don't want them, don't buy them.
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Well developers are complaining that sales are that high. This results in making windows phone7 a lockdown phone. I feel if they charge less customers would purchase more and not look for free alternatives. There should be a separate 99 cent store for windows mobile
Well developers are complaining that sales are that high.
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Did you mean "devs are complaining that sales aren't that high"?
If not, I don't understand your point.
If so, there's nothing stopping them from charging only a buck for their applications.
The success of the iPhone app store isn't its pricepoint, but the fact that it caters to a phone a lot of people own (I wouldn't buy one myself) and they have no other choice- it's a locked platform.
In other words, yeah, I guess a 99c store would be great, but it wouldn't really change anything. Devs should still be able to charge more (you get better apps that way- do you think you'd be able to buy SPB Mobile Shell if they had no other choice but to sell it for a buck?), and you can still buy/obtain software from any place you like.
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The reason I brought this up is as long as games and apps are high priced people will search very hard for warez. If the price point is low many people will just buy the product without worrying about looking for warez. Look anyone can jailbrake iphone but still most people buy the app because its so cheap.
I agree with you, zarpy. The point is devs are free to drop their price to 99c now. They shouldn't need some dedicated store to force them to acknowledge one of the most basic tenets of the free market.
I dont know if most of the 99 cent apps or games would be that great. I would imagine the quality of the app or the content itself would be lacking or out dated. I would be willing to pay a reasonable price for an application that would be value added and provide some functionality that would enhance the overall experience of my phone, but I would never buy a game. I don't find myself in enough situations to be able to whip out my phone and play for extended periods of time.
why charge 99 cents? there are lots of freeware games and apps out there if you take the time to look for them
they dont make it to marketplace because of the restrictions on apps that can be sold through there
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why charge 99 cents? there are lots of freeware games and apps out there if you take the time to look for them
they dont make it to marketplace because of the restrictions on apps that can be sold through there
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Your right about that they place restrictions that make no sense. I found better online stores with way better and more useful games and apps. There news to be another big online store for windows mobile. Maybe in the future.
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Your right about that they place restrictions that make no sense. I found better online stores with way better and more useful games and apps. There news to be another big online store for windows mobile. Maybe in the future.
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doubtful, once WP7 is out the marketplace will be the only source for apps, so MS can put whatever restrictions on it they want
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Yes I agree once Microsoft totally controls the Marketplace. most phones will be hacked just to download freeware and buy from other narkets.
control
So do you want microsoft to have more control or do you like the way it is now.
Finally the best version of Bejeweled 2 is here for Android, this is a musts have game that needs to be in any of my phones
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eamobile.bejeweled2_na_wf
Is there any difference with Jewels that's free on the market? Trying to see why it'd be worth buying it.
Also, they both seem a little to slow, especially compared to Zoo Keeper which is one of my favorite game on the DS.
there was a time i played bejeweled all the time. but i don't think i've even started it (or the free version jewels that i've installed) during the last 6m
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there was a time i played bejeweled all the time. but i don't think i've even started it (or the free version jewels that i've installed) during the last 6m
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no, i tried all the free ones, and there is none that can compare to Bejeweled, it's simply the most addictive of them all, and the music, i love the music it's so relaxing when you are in a slow moving bank line up or in the subway waiting for the train to arrive
This thread is useless and constitutes a commercial ad, which is against forum rules. I really am amazed where someone who has made 6000 contributions to this forum gets off starting a thread like this...
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Well, He just told you a chance to get a discounted paid app.
If it doesn't appear on your market via default, don't try using marketaccess to buy it.
It might not work.
It is useless without BLITZ! Where is our version with Blitz. lol
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This thread is useless and constitutes a commercial ad, which is against forum rules. I really am amazed where someone who has made 6000 contributions to this forum gets off starting a thread like this...
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Don't see anything wrong with this. There's a discount at the moment, might as well share the information with the others.
Agreed, if something GOOD is cheap, share it. Just don't flood the forum with it.
Anyway, it's not showing on the market, not even the 1st one.
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Well, He just told you a chance to get a discounted paid app.
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exactly, back in Xmas time
Sims3
Need for Speed
Tetris
Soccer 2010
and some other ones were also at 99 cents
look at their prices now they are between $4 to $7
it's in no way an Advert, it's just letting others that are interested in this game to grab it for a buck
personally i wouldn't pay for anything that cost more than a $1 unless it's a really really worth software app like GPS program or Office Suite for the phone
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exactly, back in Xmas time
Sims3
Need for Speed
Tetris
Soccer 2010
and some other ones were also at 99 cents
look at their prices now they are between $4 to $7
it's in no way an Advert, it's just letting others that are interested in this game to grab it for a buck
personally i wouldn't pay for anything that cost more than a $1 unless it's a really really worth software app like GPS program or Office Suite for the phone
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Oh I wish somebody would have told me about this one.
Tetris is still the same original game, but they changed the original music with some funky techno version of the old music
i prefer the original music of the original Tetris
Too bad.. It's not available on my carrier..
you wonder why so many people go and use android and iphone...
microsoft doesnt have any proper marketing strategies i mean the games are overpriced, the apps are still at a low number and there is no real freedom in this os.
dont get me wrong im a user of wp7 and i was excited by the phone but the more they release things the more disappointed i am. you arent paying for games like angry birds and plants vs zombies your basically paying ridiculous prices to use their xbl feature.
i think that if they want to break into the market they should really consider making these games free i know its unfair to the developers but think about how much more people would be interested to hear that they can get free proper games or apps.
but if you want to go and tell these developers to develop games for your os then i think they should make it free like what google did with angry birds although they paid them a butt load of money. microsoft is trying to compete with people that have been in the market for longer making these things free would surely attract more people.
well thats what i think, share your thoughts
There are lots of free apps in the marketplace already. What's your point?
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Making Angry Birds free is not going to sell handsets. Having a feature complete phone (Mango) and sales reps that are actually willing to sell Windows Phones will be what will move handsets.
Once you start working for free, let us know then we'll take your point up with Microsoft and the developers who will obviously be ecstatic to forgo any charges for their work.
my point isnt saying there isnt any free apps.. its saying maybe instead of jacking up prices so high they should focus on reasonable prices, its because its xbl integrated that they charging so high
as i said their marketing sucks.. im simply saying that if they think about what users want and how they should take android and iphone as examples.
once i start working for free?
what you on about? if they willing to spend 8bil on skype and not even integrate it on wp7 why cant they spend few hundred k on developers to bring in more apps and games...
they're learning... they can't copy apple snobbishness or androids openness... they need something new fresh, different. give them time, they'll find a niche eventually.
As I said...Microsoft marketing sucks
compared this two sites
Microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/whats-next.aspx
Apple
http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/
Both coming this fall....IMO,microsoft is not working aggressive as apple does...in apple ios5 site,it has almost everything...gallery,video,features,notify me function....Microsoft one is just looks like they are not ready....
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you wonder why so many people go and use android and iphone...
microsoft doesnt have any proper marketing strategies i mean the games are overpriced, the apps are still at a low number and there is no real freedom in this os.
dont get me wrong im a user of wp7 and i was excited by the phone but the more they release things the more disappointed i am. you arent paying for games like angry birds and plants vs zombies your basically paying ridiculous prices to use their xbl feature.
i think that if they want to break into the market they should really consider making these games free i know its unfair to the developers but think about how much more people would be interested to hear that they can get free proper games or apps.
but if you want to go and tell these developers to develop games for your os then i think they should make it free like what google did with angry birds although they paid them a butt load of money. microsoft is trying to compete with people that have been in the market for longer making these things free would surely attract more people.
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if they make games for free , they either pay the developers or screw them.
if they screw the developers no one is going to make more applications for wp7....
and really... the phones costs like 500 dollars, paying 50 dollars more for your apps is not unreasonable.....
and of course that microsoft marketing sucks compared to apple, apple is the most successful marketing company in the world. ofcourse this does not make it impossible for Microsoft to improve
I'd rather they charge $2.99 so that we have more high quality games and apps on our phones. It's not that much money...less than a burger king meal.
...you have 2 different kind of points:
a) Apps prices: This is not Microsoft's responsability. The prices are fixed by the developers of the apps. Marketplace is just the site who makes it possilbe for you to purchase them.
b) Microsoft marketing: Yes, in this respect, they are still far behind Apple. But you have to consider that Microsoft has not the same market approach like Apple.
- Apple has their own sales outlets
- Apple has a big influence regarding marketing and advertising budgets with their retail partners. Apple dictates what they have to do and what they have to spend.
- Same applies to the selected providers who sell Apple products.
Microsoft is in partnership with the device makers and the providers and depending on them. Now who is responsible for the marketing? Mircrosoft? The Makers? The Providers? Microsoft startet with a budget of 500 Mio $. But this is peanuts for a global campaign to introduce something totally new and from what I can see at least here in Europe, the Makers and the Providers are still very reluctant to invest their money in promoting WP7
Well, technically Microsoft does set the prices of XBL games, since they all are published under the "Microsoft Games Studios" banner.
As far as "free" games "screwing" developers or resulting in lower quality, remember that the most sought-after game that has just been released on WP7 is a port of a game that is already available on the other platforms at a lower price, with more levels. Oh, and according to most recent data, Rovio is earning about a million dollars a month from the ads in the free Android version. That doesn't exactly sound like they are getting "screwed" to me.
I was in long Island, NY last week listening to a rock station as I was traveling through. I heard 3 Windows Phone 7 commercals on the radio. It was on aAir plane and they discusses something about powering off phones incuding you with the new Windows Phone (and a few others got in a WOW type thing about the phone)
Same commercal 3 times, it was for the Verizon HTC Trophy (didn't think Verizon cared about it that much)
This would be the first time I heard a Radio ad, I've seen tons on TV tho...
As for the App costs, I will agree, anything over $2.99 for a mobile app or game is WAY too much. MAYBE in a rare case for a High end game (big brand name with the game to back it up) $3.99-$4.99 is acceptable, in a RARE CASE. $6.99 for Sonic is crazy, not for a game (tried the demo) that should just be a flashback game($1.99) as it plays just like the 16bit sega system did.
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...you have 2 different kind of points:
a) Apps prices: This is not Microsoft's responsability. The prices are fixed by the developers of the apps. Marketplace is just the site who makes it possilbe for you to purchase them.
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Actually I think they did. When Microsoft released the first few games (before lots of developer "good games" came in), some were at $4.99 (think ilomilo and few other of the release games) , so developers said, Microsoft can do it, why can't we ?
If they started out with new games at $1.99 or $2.99 I bet it would of set a standard because no one wanted to be that crazy over priced person that does not sell any programs. Now you see $4.99-6.99 the norm for mid line games and I still think that's nuts for a phone game (if it was xbox live on my 360 in 720p/1080p with 5.1 audio, it's different and worth that or more)
So it's okay that you spend a thousand dollars every year to use your smartphone, but omg they better not charge more than $2.99 for an app!
AT&T 450 minutes + unlimited text + 2GB data = $85 + fees and taxes (about $5) = $90 a month
$90 x 12 months = $1080 a year
And that's for the cheapest talk plan they have.
honestly some of you guys have good points and some of you dont have good points..
its not about spending how much on a contract.. thats kinda what you bought the phone for, its not about spending alot on games either its about what microsoft is trying to do, being different sometimes isnt a good thing as it leads to un-satisfied customers and thus leading to people changing back to android or iphone.
i believe they can still come out right after they listen to their customers.
reasonable prices for reasonable games.
and if you wanna say angry birds is worth it, guess again its missing the new chapters.. its only got 1 - 4.. wheres the rest.. is this the best that they could do for MS? wheres seasons and rio?
Marketing:
Yes the WP7 marketing hasn't been the best. The onslaught hasn't fully started yet though - I believe they are waiting first for year close and stronger marketing from their favorite partner... Nokia.
I expect Mango marketing will be better but they haven't quite hit stride - this is less then a year out with limited hardware... just give it some time.
App prices... yes they are high - simple fact is NUMBERS. App Devs will charge what they can get away with. WP7 want the apps and they are willing to pay the prices for them. As the device count spreads the pricing may begin to drop to attract other users who have not downloaded because of cost.
We are here at the beginning so of course we'll get hit the hardest
Microsoft marketing is horrendous. I've had 5 WinMo devices, too long complacent with the incremental changes. They had a market to themselves but had let others run away with it. The large oceanliner that is Microsoft takes so long to change heading. I was looking forward to WP7, and when it first came out at Verizon, I went to check it out. I've been to 4 VZ stores and none of them have the phone activated. NONE! I can't check out IE to browse anything. How is that supposed to sell anyone? I tried to contact Microsoft about the fact that their demo phones aren't even activated, but instead I got some rep from another country. I told him to escalate it to his manager, provided my info, but no one has gotten back to me. I went back to another VZ store and still... the demo WP7 had no service.
I'm quite upset about it, but I'm not above switching away from WinMo until Microsoft gets a clue with what to do with all the money they make.
I'm going to give calling Microsoft a final shot and see if I can get some fat exec to listen to me.
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honestly some of you guys have good points and some of you dont have good points..
its not about spending how much on a contract.. thats kinda what you bought the phone for, its not about spending alot on games either its about what microsoft is trying to do, being different sometimes isnt a good thing as it leads to un-satisfied customers and thus leading to people changing back to android or iphone.
i believe they can still come out right after they listen to their customers.
reasonable prices for reasonable games.
and if you wanna say angry birds is worth it, guess again its missing the new chapters.. its only got 1 - 4.. wheres the rest.. is this the best that they could do for MS? wheres seasons and rio?
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I'm going to quote a conversation here:
I confess Instapaper is pretty interesting to me, it's just not worth $4.99 to me. I would probably buy it for $0.99. I realize that's really cheap, but Apple has really trained me that stuff should be free (or $0.99 at most).
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This attitude blows my mind.. but you aren't alone.
Any app on App Store that isn't 99 cents is littered with reviews demanding that it should be 99 cents.. even if it's only 1.99.
Really.. mind blown. It's seriously de-valuing the concept of a software application.. and making it really hard for me to believe the hype in the mobile industry.
I saw some articles even about Angry Birds profitability.. they mentioned some company investing almost $50 million in Roxio.. but they also mentioned the game hasn't even made $10 million in sales.. although it does allegedly generate $1 million a month in revenue from ads on Android... they said the most profitable part of Roxio is their toy and other item sales.
The numbers don't add up for me.. I get that the budget is small.. but it's still an industry limited by the price consumers are demanding.
ALL of App Store did $1.7 billion in 2010? And that's 350,000 apps?
That's less than $5,000 per app...
By the time Call of Duty Black Ops is a year old.. it will probably have done the same revenue that all of App Store did in 2010... it's already most likely fairly close.
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Also, this is interesting:
i.imgur.com/8bbmJ.jpg
DavidinCT said:
If they started out with new games at $1.99 or $2.99 I bet it would of set a standard because no one wanted to be that crazy over priced person that does not sell any programs. Now you see $4.99-6.99 the norm for mid line games and I still think that's nuts for a phone game (if it was xbox live on my 360 in 720p/1080p with 5.1 audio, it's different and worth that or more)
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The average price is actually $2.99 for most games (AUD3.99 here in Australia), but I'm not sure if I understand your logic. How does the platform you play the game on change it's worth?
This platfrom has a lot of potential, but MS needs to listen to its users.
App prices are not the reason it will fail. I'm sorry but as a developer my time is worth more than $0.99 Those that think otherwise have no programming experience. Sure can I make millions off of one good app that is 99 cents or free, YES, but the odds of that happening are slim with how many apps come out.
Their marketing is what will kill this platform. well that along with not listening to the needs of the users. The notification system is now going to be behind the other 2 major players and that is not good for heavy users.
They need to fix their endpoint sales. Very few sales reps are excited about the platform.
I have one friend that bought a wp7, focus I think, and he hates it. I keep saying wait for the update, but the update is missing features he wants. The sad thing is they are features that are easily to implement. missing feattures is a whole differnt thread, but he just wants the ability to group his apps kinda like the contacts can be grouped now. The letter search is not a good approach because that requires me to search by name instead of function.
I have SGS and Optimus 7.
Almost every app, that i use in android i can use in wp too.
Only problem, for now, i can't buy apps yet, but that will be fixed when marketplace opens in Finland.
Soon nothing won't keep me on android.
There is so much trash apps on android market, so it is hard to find really important apps.
Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know, I'm going to be starting to make reviews for Android games using my new Nexus 7 soon, most of them are going to be free games of course since I'm not rich, but I will make sure they are some of the semi-popular ones, popular enough that people know of them, but not so popular that everyone knows everything they'd ever need to know about them!
Pretty much what the videos will be is about 5-10 minutes of showing off the start of the game and showing off what's special about it and why you would want it over others, kind of what makes it fun and what makes it unique!
I will be taking requests (starting now) for any games that you may want to see in particular, paid ones would have to be requested A LOT or be one I was already highly considering, but most free ones that are suggested more than a few times I will try to get out! I hope to do about 1-3 videos a week.
If this seems interesting to any of you, let me know! Like I said you can start making requests, and I should start uploading videos next week (Starting with Minecraft, Great little war game, and Defender II) and I'll post the link to the YouTube channel here if people seem interested!
Thanks for your time,
NoneAbove
noneabove said:
Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know, I'm going to be starting to make reviews for Android games using my new Nexus 7 soon, most of them are going to be free games of course since I'm not rich, but I will make sure they are some of the semi-popular ones, popular enough that people know of them, but not so popular that everyone knows everything they'd ever need to know about them!
Pretty much what the videos will be is about 5-10 minutes of showing off the start of the game and showing off what's special about it and why you would want it over others, kind of what makes it fun and what makes it unique!
I will be taking requests (starting now) for any games that you may want to see in particular, paid ones would have to be requested A LOT or be one I was already highly considering, but most free ones that are suggested more than a few times I will try to get out! I hope to do about 1-3 videos a week.
If this seems interesting to any of you, let me know! Like I said you can start making requests, and I should start uploading videos next week (Starting with Minecraft, Great little war game, and Defender II) and I'll post the link to the YouTube channel here if people seem interested!
Thanks for your time,
NoneAbove
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Apps cost very very little. It dumbfound me that someone can buy a smartphone or tablet pay 60 dollars or more a month for there phone service and say they can't afford apps. You take it for granted that there are free apps. Free apps were a terrible mistake in my mind.
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Apps cost very very little. It dumbfound me that someone can buy a smartphone or tablet pay 60 dollars or more a month for there phone service and say they can't afford apps. You take it for granted that there are free apps. Free apps were a terrible mistake in my mind.
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I didn't say I'd buy NO games, just not every paid one that was suggested to me cause there'd be a ton
Hi None Above,
I will be happy if you review my new game for android, Rolly Poly. It's a fun & addicting physics based puzzle game with very unique gameplay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889466
Thanks.
Roymam
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Hi None Above,
I will be happy if you review my new game for android, Rolly Poly. It's a fun & addicting physics based puzzle game with very unique gameplay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889466
Thanks.
Roymam
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Just downloaded it and its addicting, fun and well made! I could see this game climbing the charts! Bravo!
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I really wanted to use my N7 for this as well but without a working Screencast app I've decided against it. Good luck!
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One of my all time favorites is this one called """Sentinel 3 Homeworld""" not free but fun!!!
For as long as most android users, most have been with android since the beginning. We now have gaming, interactive apps and all sorts of cooky apps. Some to most of which are priced.
Here's an article I found trying to find Indie PC games for android "I failed".
http://www.webpronews.com/android-users-dont-want-to-pay-for-anything-2012-07 it talks about android users don't pay for apps, mostly because of root/no trial-free version.
This struck me as interesting because honestly I'd figure devs to be happy to share there work with the world for free. I honestly myself believe devs who charge just want money.
I do unfortunately buy some of these terrible products, but do give props and respect to those who do manage to make a fantastic app.
If its priced at least make it a good app, give a trial or free version.
This is where gaming comes in, obviously we know if not most games are marked with prices with no free trials and are half assed.
So I can see where piracy comes in, no one wants to pay 5.99$ for a half assed game. I've bought some games I regret and I proudly say if they release another I will pirate it. Sometimes its better to stay free, if its a great app or a dev who has done previous great work I would support them.
Yes I do pirate and I don't. Its where I stand with the devs and apps.
I'm shocked we don't pay for ROMs honestly.. these devs are fantastic at what they do and yes its for free, so props to them "unless it would be illegal which I don't believe it is" :sly:
Anyway.. I'm curious what you guys think?
Feel the same, do you support every dev in the play store?
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This is not meant to be offensive, but I might rant a bit.
Devs sharing their work for free? Have you ever programmed, taken a programming course, or had to pay 80k for a bachelors in Computer Science? It is time consuming to think of a good idea, implement it well, and then squash bugs. It takes HOURS, days, if not months.
Yes, there are devs who charge for crappy apps and I agree, some devs are greedy. However, isn't paying for an app the same logic as paying for a pizza? Yes, you can make one yourself, but its not like you can make a quality pizza without spending a lot in ingredients or machines (ovens, etc)--you're paying for the convenience of it being done already for you.
This applies to apps as well. You may be able to program something similar given enough time, but you are paying for the convenience and their time for making the app for you to use. Just because it is digital and not tangible doesn't make it any less work.
Now I agree that there should be some sort of trial for an app to see whether or not its good or that you like it. Unfortunately, the world doesnt run on this type of honesty and nobody would pay if it were offered for free. Thats why devs have to charge and thats why some people pirate. However, if you do pirate, please throw the developer some money if you really enjoy their app or use it frequently, otherwise if they go broke, how will they keep developing your favorite app?
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You are right.
No argument* I want it to be a clean talk amongst android users.
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I don't see this thread going anywhere but down hill and fast
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Same goes for PC games. PC gamers can't rent games so they pirate. If you buy a PC game , guess what, you're stuck with it.
But, as for android apps at least we can get a refund which eleviates the need for a trial in some circumstances
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Piracy is a huge issue on Android, but like any thing you just have to put a little effort into making it more difficult to crack. Although a lot of people say that leaving it free with ads actually makes them more money then charging for it.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/26/how-free-apps-can-make-more-money-than-paid-apps/
edit: if you like indie games you should check out the humble bundle
OP, your logic is horrible. I do applaud your honesty, no matter how awful I believe it to be. Devs create content have a free will choice to make, and those who charge are well within their rights to do so. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO STEAL, EVER. Now, having said that, some devs create content as their job. How can they buy food and pay rent if people steal their stuff. This thread is a failure, other than highlighting the challenge Google has in locking down Android to prevent piracy but still allow side loading and customizing.
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Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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Yup says that in the article.
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You're basically asking for a carpenter to build a house and give it away for free. Development costs time and money, and they have every right to ask back so that they can continue.
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I think everyone likes free stuff,this is normal
When i was new to android, i swore i would never pay for an app or game, and was happy that way. Then i got titanium backup and loved it, but hated that i couldn't batch restore, so i broke down and bought premium. Then i started frequenting these forums, seeing how much effort some of these devs out into their apps, games, etc. Now i pay for them, gladly, an i look for paid apps by respected devs first. Mostly i do it for functionality, but also to support. Titanium Backup, Franco kernel, CWM touch recovery, root explorer and many more I've bought and will gladly continue to do so. I get better apps and i support further development. Win/win in my book.
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Right, because 5.99 is such an exorbitant price... so many other things that I could do with that money that would have lasting value... wait. No, not really.
If you don't want to spend the money on the app then you don't really want it. Don't steal.
Because of this thinking and abuse Android is full of crap adware/push adware games, and you don't see most quality games released for Android. That is so sad.
I just have one question: do you work for free? Or do your poor employer have to shell out some bucks to have you working there? Yes, I wonder why those bastard devs charge for they hard work, or use those ad craps to try to get some money out of their hard work...
And also, you say, there is a lot of sh1tware, yes, there are, as there are a lot of sh1temployees.... You hire them, they do not do their work, they get fired... You buy sh1tware, you realize it is sh1t, then you won't ever buy anything from those bastards again... I really loved when you had an entire day to get a refund in Android Market, but them, a lot of smartass3s had to abuse it, and just use the game/app for the entire day and ask for a refund, doing that for several games/apps....
So, if Android market for games is like it is today, is just because most people think like you, either don't buy anything at all, they prefer to stick to a free ad game than paying 5-7-10 bucks for a quality game like Infinity Blade, or, worse, they just pirate it, and yes, installous and jailbreak exist for iOS, but this is not as easy as just ticking a box in settings menu and then downloading APK's from anywhere...
Don't get me wrong, I love the way Android is open, but, unfortunately, most people suck and doesn't know how to use freedom, instead, they abuse and try to get advantages out of it...
Unfortunately Google will probably end up walling their garden because of these issues, or at least surrounding it with thorn bushes
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I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores
crixley said:
I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores
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Yup. Jail broke my brother's iPhone and the first thing he ask is, "OK load it up with apps for free."
I stared at him and made him learn it himself. He did, but still, $1 doesnt kill.
I just bought COD: BOZ, a $7 app. The closest I am to pirating is "Game Sharing".
Me and my friends put each other's Gmail account(requires a lot of trust Cuz we can tamper with each other's mail & stuff) on each other's phone and share our purchased apps. Done.
I do admit I pirate once in a while(Nova 3 being one, so laggy that it wasn't worth the price.)
But there is one punishment I love about Jailbreakers, if you pirate your apps, u can't put em back in when you unjailbreak to upgrade to the next iOS.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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msavic6 said:
Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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first thing that all Jailbreakers learn how to do.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^
i never thoght i would pay money for apps or anything. but later on as i used android, and looked at forums, i realized that devs really do alot of work. put urself in their shoes, and first thing i thought was "why the fk should i bother making this crap if all its gonna do is go to some ungrateful persons phone and im not even gonna get a thanks". so i regularly buy apps. not only does that make the android market that much closer to being as good and as diverse as the ios market, but u also get the LEGIT app without any risks of having some weird ass **** go wrong with ur phone in a very subtle way.....