Ok, just a quick question.
How's it possible that you can upgrade HTC HD2 from WM 6.5 to WP7,
and you are not able to downgrade any WP7 device, from WP7 to
WM 6.5?
HTC HD2 has the same processor, chipset and it even has less RAM than any of the WP7 devices.
Wouldn't it make sense that then you could install WM 6.5 on WP7?
Tnx for info
One, Win 6.5 is just terribad. Two, just because there are hardware similarities, there might be other underlying factors that block this. Three, with little demand to do it, it probably was not explored in the first place. I would say if you miss 6.5, just buy an old device or even better, figure out a way to port it. I don't see very many people falling in line with you.
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Is the WM6.1 floating around on the forums derived from official MS release? I searched the various posts as well as on google and couldn't find anything on that.
The reason why I ask this is because looking at the screenshots scattered around the forum I visually atleast, don't see any difference/improvement from our wm6.0
I own a Tilt and I recollect a couple of months back there was a lot of buzz around MS releasing some good enhancements and there was even a much different GUI that was shown in their smartphone platform on MS' own website to which people guessed that it may be coming in wm6.1!!?
Weren't there an official statement on MS WM site of the Tilt and a few select other phones getting the next version of W mobility center syncing with PC plus other enhancements to which all assumed that it'd be WM6.1 ???!!
Can someone shed some light here please! Thanks.
As to whether or not it is an official release, I haven't a clue. But, as to differences, I have noticed several on my HTC Mogul (HTC xv6800, Titan, whatever you call it). Most notably is speed: the device is *noticably* faster running the same problems, and I have run 6 or 7 different ROMs with WM 6 to compare against... it is by far the fastest. Also, on the titan voice command w/ bluetooth headset hasn't ever completely worked, as the verification never worked. All bluetooth functions on my phone seem to be working significantly better.
Other than that, there are a few changes... seems like it's automatically closing certain programs when they aren't used (notably PIE and Messaging) about which I have mixed feelings, but it does tend to make for better memory management...
so there are some improvements. I'm still identifying all of them, since I just flashed the new OS night before last, but there are some definite changes.
I doubt this is the actual WM 6.1 release promissed by Microsoft.
The official 6.1 roms would have some visual "improvements" because of the iPhone. Apple has taken the lead marketshare from Microsoft.
... i think (i might as well be wrong)
the pictures of the fancy shake and such wm version is not 6.1 it's 7 which will not be out untill 2009
Rudegar said:
the pictures of the fancy shake and such wm version is not 6.1 it's 7 which will not be out untill 2009
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i also read somewhere that visually, there is a big difference between the ppc and the smartphone versions of 6.1
yep windows mobile 7 is the one with the whole new gui and finger friendliness on it, but it wouldn't suprise me if they included a few bits in 6.1 just to keep i phone at bay.
Hope its not the official one...
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I doubt this is the actual WM 6.1 release promissed by Microsoft.
The official 6.1 roms would have some visual "improvements" because of the iPhone. Apple has taken the lead marketshare from Microsoft.
... i think (i might as well be wrong)
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I certainly hope that this isn't the official MS release as even though like you guys (taxilian) are saying that there is significant speed improvement and tweaks here and there, I'd much rather take some GUI improvements that will allow for more and more functionality with just fingers... I mean a stylus to go tap tap while walking in a park... come on dude!!
Is anyone working on bringing the 6.5 beta from blue angel over to the vogue?
This would be awesome!
short answer: yes.
I wonder how long it will take to port--and if it's really a new core OS, or if it's just a few minor upgrades...
heh i just saw that article over at engadget and came here to see if anyone was working on it too, for the vogue
I'm sure SOME core functionality will change, but 6.5 won't be the mass great update that most are hoping for. I think it will be an improvement from a UI standpoint, but until 7 we won't see the sweeping changes that will truly compete with the likes of Android, Apple, etc...
Total speculation here, but that's my belief.
Hello everyone. Can I have some expert opinion please? Do we think that the tilt 2 which was just released last Oct. and I just got mine last week, will be able to support windows mobile 7? Do we think that AT&T will upgrade the OS when it comes out? Being and owner of win mo phones since the 8125 first came out, I know how slow AT&T is to release updated OS's.
This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
I'm not an expert at all...
But it seems like it's one thing for W7 to be somehow cooked to run on the TP2, but another thing for it to run well, without excessive lag (for example).
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This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
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This is a great point. Whenever someone dares to mention WinMo7 on the TP2, you get flamed and the spec impossibilities yelled at your face. But exactly my point about what people said "couldn't" be done!
It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
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It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
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The Zune OS is based off of the Windows CE kernel, which is also the base for Windows Mobile, so there wouldn't be complete incompatibility as some of the false rumors lead you to believe. There are a lot of blatantly false rumors floating around on even the most respected WM sites, so take every unconfirmed rumor you read about WM 7 with a grain of salt.
Though I would love Windows Mobile 7 on the Touch Pro2, I have to say that it's pretty unlikely it'll happen. First, to everyone who gives the example of WM6 running on WM5 devices and WM6.5 running on WM 6.x/5.x devices, the reason this is easy is because all these operating systems (WM5-WM6) run the same Windows CE 5.2 kernel. It's a lot easier to backport an OS when it uses the same kernel. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be based off Windows CE 6 or 7, and it'll likely take a hell of a lot of low-level work to get WM7 on the Pro2.
If you don't believe me, look in this thread at PPCGeeks, where some of the most technical people discuss this issue in more detail. It seems to me that we'll need a new everything, from the SPL and bootloader to new hardware drivers (since it's extremely unlikely that WM7 will support the Qualcomm MSM series considering the rumored WM 6.5.x and WM 7 coexistance scheme, where only 6.5 supports lower end devices and hardware like the MSM series).
I'm not saying I don't want WM 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, but I am trying to be realistic here, so I'm gonna say it's likely no to WM 7 on the Pro2.
one guy from htc russia announced WM7 minimal requirements: 8Gb onboard, CPU1GHz,FM, 5Mpx,compass,G-sensor,3,6",WVGA.
but of course its not true
My Universal (2005) came with wm5!
Then upgraded to wm6, then to wm6.1 and I got it working with wm6.5
I´m sure the great chefs here will manage something so we can have wm7 for sure!
for me wp7 home screen and all software is so so ugly.would there be a sense in new wp7 htc device???want new hardware but dont want wp7 if must get that new microsoft sh... then hope htc will give me some happynes and put sense over wp7 or microsort say again users dont want that
P.S. for me best would be that new devices can run wm 6.5 and to have hd3 with wm6.5 would be what I want.if I want locked OS would buy iphone very very disappointed in microsoft expect from them best os made until now and get copy of Iphone so they can get more money
No, Microsoft already said they will not allow third-party interfaces for Windows 7. So no sense for it. However, Microsoft also said that they will continue to support windows 6.5 for a long time, and new phones should be expected with it (probably just not as many).
thanks man.can microsoft makes this os bad more and more and more
I expect something that will change world and get big bigest sh...
Someone who has a rom with Windows Mobile 7??
WP7 will very likely never come to the diamond. Even if it did, it would probably be unbearably slow. Besides the Diamond has a resistive touch screen so no multitouch goodness... But again, I think WP7 will never come to the diamond. I am using the release to buy a new faster and all round better WP7 phone!
okay. i think it´s the best solution.
Someone will port it - whether or not it will run is a different matter