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How do I know if my Desire is rooted?

I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!

normalnix said:
I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!
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You will know if it is rooted cos you wont be able to pull it out the ground lol
Only jokin if you phone is rooted you will have a program in your apps called super user.
hope this helps

I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!

normalnix said:
I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!
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Yeah thats the one your phone is rooted

Ok. That answers the first part I guess then. Any ideas how I get to Froyo? I can download the update, but it always fails to do it's thing.
Do I have to restore the phone or what? And how?

is your phone branded in any way? even a start up logo ?
and where can you download the update? from system software updates on your phone?

There's no branding on the phone, box or software. I can download the update via software updates.
PS. Thanks for the help so far!

If you can download it from software updates go for it froyo here we go,
no branding is a good sign

Just try updating via the update manager as that should work.

LOL
That's the problem. It doesn't work!

Same thing with me....
I bought a Telstra Branded Handset. Had a company root and install a generic rom. (Telstra handset because it works on ATT 3G.) This morning, the phone told me that I had an Android Software Update (Version 2.2). The phone downloaded it, but wouldn't install. I imagine because the dang thing is rooted.
I will wait a few days for someone to offer a desire rom with 2.2 and HTC sense.

Is there an easy way to restore the handset to it's original software so I can upgrade from there?

Look for the Unrooting guide in the (sticky) guides collection. I believe it just involves flashing a stock rom. But currently you won't be able to root your phone after official OTA froyo update, since it flashes your hboot too. Alternatively you can flash a rooted froyo ROM without hboot.
Edit: Look in development forum for the sticky guide. The place to be for topics like this; it makes them obsolete.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Many thanks!
For further info, see 'How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock' in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4
It took a bit of time to download all the updates, but I got there in the end.

My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?

jontokyo said:
My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?
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Even if you are rooted, you will have READ ONLY access to /system due to NAND protection. You can only write to /system from recovery.
Regards,
Dave

hi
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance

nagagaya said:
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance
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2nd post. If you have a superuser app, you are rooted.

S-off or S-on

Hi,
I'm a newbie and I have an Incredible rooted with 2.2. I wanted to downgrade for the OTA and I'm wondering if I have S-Off or S-On. How do I check. I checked the software info and I didn't find in there. Is there a way to tell?

Ugh
cybrvipr23 said:
Hi,
I'm a newbie and I have an Incredible rooted with 2.2. I wanted to downgrade for the OTA and I'm wondering if I have S-Off or S-On. How do I check. I checked the software info and I didn't find in there. Is there a way to tell?
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Gosh there's so much wrong with that. First of all, if you have 2.2 then why are you downgrading for the OTA ... the OTA *is* 2.2.
You can check by going into HBOOT. Please just read the unrevoked forever page. It answers everything you are asking.

jdmba said:
Gosh there's so much wrong with that. First of all, if you have 2.2 then why are you downgrading for the OTA ... the OTA *is* 2.2.
You can check by going into HBOOT. Please just read the unrevoked forever page. It answers everything you are asking.
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I realize that but I want the official OTA since I want the bugs all worked out and I really only wanted root for the wireless tether and flashlight.

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cybrvipr23 said:
I realize that but I want the official OTA since I want the bugs all worked out and I really only wanted root for the wireless tether and flashlight.
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Those are 2 apps I also have installed so bravo on your choice I still assume you meant 2.1 in your original thread. However, if you meant that you are running someones cooked 2.2 and you want the official, then your best bet at this point is simply to run the RUU for the OTA after you make sure you are SOFF
Answer remains the same - go to the unrevoked page and it will tell you how to check to see if your are SOFF.

and incase you havn't found you get into HBOOT by turning off the phone. then holding vol. down and power til screen turns on, at the top you'll see if your S-ON and S-OFF.

Any updates regarding a new version of Unrevoked?

Title pretty much says it...was wondering if there are any updates as to when those of us with new(er) Evos can expect the new version of Unrevoked that will work on our phones
Thanks in advance

PCap79 said:
Title pretty much says it...was wondering if there are any updates as to when those of us with new(er) Evos can expect the new version of Unrevoked that will work on our phones
Thanks in advance
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I saw a thread from joshua at unrevoked. They updated the unrevokedforever.zip file to include the newest radio version and said they are actively working on getting a new version of unrevoked in place that will work with the newest phones. I imagine it will take a little while as the newer phones have different data partitions than the older ones so they need to figure out some very complex methods to create a one click root this time.
If you feel the need to root now there is a thread with instructions on how to do it manually in this forum.

leenypost said:
I saw a thread from joshua at unrevoked. They updated the unrevokedforever.zip file to include the newest radio version and said they are actively working on getting a new version of unrevoked in place that will work with the newest phones. I imagine it will take a little while as the newer phones have different data partitions than the older ones so they need to figure out some very complex methods to create a one click root this time.
If you feel the need to root now there is a thread with instructions on how to do it manually in this forum.
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Thanks for the info. Dumb question...but...what's the difference between unrevoked forever and unrevoked?

PCap79 said:
Thanks for the info. Dumb question...but...what's the difference between unrevoked forever and unrevoked?
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unrevoked forever is just a zip file you flash with a custom recovery installed that sets your phone to s-off....
unrevoked is a one step process that you use as an executable file that flashes the zip as well as giving you a custom recovery and adds superuser to your phone achieving full root.

well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked

leenypost said:
unrevoked forever is just a zip file you flash with a custom recovery installed that sets your phone to s-off....
unrevoked is a one step process that you use as an executable file that flashes the zip as well as giving you a custom recovery and adds superuser to your phone achieving full root.
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Ahhhh ok....thanks for clearing that up. So Unrevoked Forever is only good on a phone thats already rooted...so I'd need to root my phone with unrevoked first(whenever the new version is out) and then run unrevoked forever to keep any new OTAs from unrooting my phone.
I'm a LONG time blackberry user so all this is new to me...that's why I'm patiently waiting for the new unrevoked rather than going through the multi-step process

evoftw said:
well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked
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That's awesome news! I've been holding off on updating from to 3.7 OTA because there wasn't even a version of Unrevoked that works on my current 3.3 software. I didn't want to have to wait even longer for Unrevoked 3.7...But it looks like they killed 2 birds w/ 1 stone

The one click unrevoked method will automatically run and install unrevoked forever. But there are times when people have noticed it fails to install successfully but are still rooted. So at that point, you can just download and flash unrevoked forever yourself to get S-OFF.

ICEReaction said:
The one click unrevoked method will automatically run and install unrevoked forever. But there are times when people have noticed it fails to install successfully but are still rooted. So at that point, you can just download and flash unrevoked forever yourself to get S-OFF.
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Ohhh ok...thank you for clearing that up

evoftw said:
well according to their twitter, it seems they are done with the evo 3.70 ota support, but their release may be delayed because of weather.
twitter.com/unrevoked
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that "weather" looks like skiing weather....
and who could turn down some fresh powder when it is staring you in the face ?

Any word?????
Has anybody seen or downloaded unrevoked 3.7 yet??? I deperately need it. Thanks

PCap79 said:
That's awesome news! I've been holding off on updating from to 3.7 OTA because there wasn't even a version of Unrevoked that works on my current 3.3 software. I didn't want to have to wait even longer for Unrevoked 3.7...But it looks like they killed 2 birds w/ 1 stone
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You shouldn't update ever. You're basically unrooting yourself then rooting again. It might be easier to just flash the new things that come with 3.7/whatever new OTA comes out in the future

Need unrevoked bacd stock phone sucks!!!
has anyone heard anything about the new unrevoked i have had my evo rooted for 6 monthes and i droped and broke it. got a new one and it can with 3.70 on it im not real sure about manually doing it. any news or help would be great thanks

Need unrevoked patch stock phone sucks!!!!
i have had a rooted evo for 6 monthes and broke it had to get a new one and it came with 3.70 update on it. im not real sure about manual root so any news or help would be great thanks

is manual easy to do i have read about it and it sounds complicated

I have done the manual version 5 times on friends phones and such. No issues at all...just make sure you read everything and you will be fine
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Ok, here my Issue i have a EVO that never connected on the 4G network, the Tech said if the phone is rooted that caused to not connect 4G, so I finally took it to the store and got a new one last night does anyone knows which process to follow that wont jack my RSA or MAC Address on my EVO? or can I just use unrevoked to root my phone?

If you just got a new one you probably have hboot 2.02 or 2.10.
I have 2.10 so I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
I was worry about doing it @ first but if you follow the very detailed instructions you should be fine. Plus my 4g is not broke. Read everything first, even the detailed FAQ the OP included. I just couldn't wait for new unrevoked myself

According to the their Twitter account, a beta version of the new unrevoked is expected "tomorrow-ish." Since it looks like the new Unevoked will be available in the near future I'm just going to keep waiting for it rather than messing with the manual version.
www.twitter.com/unrevoked
(you don't need a twitter account to check their status updates)

sknnypete said:
Ok, here my Issue i have a EVO that never connected on the 4G network, the Tech said if the phone is rooted that caused to not connect 4G, so I finally took it to the store and got a new one last night does anyone knows which process to follow that wont jack my RSA or MAC Address on my EVO? or can I just use unrevoked to root my phone?
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That sprint rep has no clue what he is talking about. I rooted,still have 4g
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[Q] Root official Froyo!

I have just updated my device with the official Froyo from HTC and then I found out that I haven't heard anything related to rooting this stuff. I really miss my CM7. Just curious about how the official stuff will work and forget this important thing.
I don't want to wait til someone find out how to root it but I think I will have to...
Sad...
---> SOLVED thanks to Chisle31 and others...

........ :F|....Never flash an official update, especially when its been posted that you can't root it...Its simple logic!.....
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA Premium App

rotfl, are you serious?! wow, yeah you're screwed until someone figures out how to root with the new update. this is why people shouldnt be posting links to official unrooted roms. the not so experienced will mess themselves up
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.

nbetcher said:
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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The new software number for the official update is: 2.15.531.3.

Where can I find that root method used on the desire Z?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Yeah, you guys are right. Been around with Android for just over 6 months so I am still a noob. I don't care much about S-OFF but this is really a blow for me since I am doing fine with RC4.
Hope you guys can find out the fix for me (not with a hammer).

did a search and read in xda archives that ruu is rootable under the previous root method. I dont know how true that is, but try rooting with the latest root method if you flashed the ruu

nbetcher said:
It's possible to root it, but it's NOT possible to S-OFF it (EVER). Root has to be done using a new exploit method that was used to root the newest Desire Z OTA. I did it when I created NB_Mod.
EDIT: What version is the OTA? Check Settings->About phone->Software information->Software number.
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what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?

I thought Mod should put a warning sticky so that no one will do the same thing I did.

guitarist5122 said:
what if he was to gain root and then flash the official 2.1 build. would that downgrade the bootloader?
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Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).

nbetcher said:
Normally? Yes, but HTC likes breaking their previous evil-ness records and with the release of HBOOT 1.0 (which the latest OTA is the first to have) they have set the 'Allow Downgrade' flag of HBOOT to 'false.' Why do I know this? I did that on my last Slide when I was patching between OTAs (to build the base for CR_Mod), but fortunately that Slide was having radio hardware issues far before I did that, so I ended up getting a new one under warranty.
When you try to flash the ESPRIMG in hboot, it says something like:
Code:
Flashing: DATA ... Success
Flashing: USERDATA ... Success
Flashing: RCDATA ... Success
Flashing: SYSTEM ... Success
Flashing: BOOTLOADER ... [b]Skipped[/b]
Requesting: Please bend over for HTC, because we love raping you with large telephone poles ... Failed.
Ok, so the last part isn't entirely true (hehehe), but you get the idea.
Only way to fix the problem is to get a replacement or JTAG the NAND and flash a new HBOOT (chances are that if you knew how to do this without frying your phone you wouldn't need me to tell you your options).
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Thats cool of htc, "quietly evil". Wast going to mention the jtag. Lack of knowledge is what got this mess lol. I personally wouldnt even attempt a jtag unless I could fashion a solderless adapter. Soldering is part of my job but when it comes to micro components, its way to risky.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(

bearshare said:
Anyone knows any idea about who's working on root method for this new official Froyo. Just want to know while "enjoying this stuff". :-(
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This is the method that I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261. It may require tweaking, omitting certain things, or otherwise be completely different, but the basic idea is there.
And remember folks: HBOOT 1.0 is NOT supported by AlphaRev and will probably never be (per IEF, the chief AlphaRev developer)! (HBOOT 1.0 is included in the latest Froyo OTA and it is currently impossible to downgrade from 1.0.)

The worst thing I've ever heard...

Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot

Chisle31 said:
Your able to get a Adb shell root with oneclickroot
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You mean I can root this and go back to the previous firmware? Please clarify a bit more since I am not techie enough to do thi on my own. And is it risky to do so?

Root achieved!!!!! will post method tonight

I will be the first one to try that...Can't wait

Sounds like this works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025336

[Q] Help Rooting/downgrading CDMA Desire with HBOOT 1.06

I have looked all over XDA, as well as Google, but I've been unable to find and answer. From my research, I've found that with my HBOOT version - 1.06 - my phone is unrootable. What I haven't seen is anyone trying to downgrade the HBOOT to .9x. My phone was rooted with this version, but for some reason unrEVOked 3.32 didn't turn the security off. Now I'm stuck with the sh*tty stock HTC Sense rom. I have tried installing a Alltel (I have US Cellular) 2.1 recovery rom, to no avail. Is it possible to downgrade the HBOOT, with rooting? I understand that the unEVOked team is working on a fix, but I'm getting impatient. (I don't blame them, they are doing this out of the goodness of heart in their spare time. Anything they do - and have done - is greatly appreciated.) I want to install an aftermarket rom so I can underclock the CPU and save battery, as well as free up some space for apps.

im having the same issue with my new desire =[

No. You can't downgrade, you can't use another carrier (that's what CDMA is all about), you can't do anything. You have to wait for a fix.

Damn. i cant wait for Unrevoked to find a way...

/sigh
If only I lived in Europe, where the GSM carriers don't suck @ss. I've noticed the GSM Desire owners have a lot more activity then their CDMA cousins. I should have known better then to use an official HTC roms to upgrade. I made the same mistake with jailbreaking my iPod Touch, a few times.

eventhorizon666 said:
I have looked all over XDA, as well as Google, but I've been unable to find and answer. From my research, I've found that with my HBOOT version - 1.06 - my phone is unrootable. What I haven't seen is anyone trying to downgrade the HBOOT to .9x. My phone was rooted with this version, but for some reason unrEVOked 3.32 didn't turn the security off. Now I'm stuck with the sh*tty stock HTC Sense rom. I have tried installing a Alltel (I have US Cellular) 2.1 recovery rom, to no avail. Is it possible to downgrade the HBOOT, with rooting? I understand that the unEVOked team is working on a fix, but I'm getting impatient. (I don't blame them, they are doing this out of the goodness of heart in their spare time. Anything they do - and have done - is greatly appreciated.) I want to install an aftermarket rom so I can underclock the CPU and save battery, as well as free up some space for apps.
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check this out
alpharev dot nl/x/beta/

THANK YOU
THANK YOU, THE LINK ABOVE HELPED ME TO ROOT A HTC DESIRE CDMA with HBOOT 1.06.0000 and now I have my lovely clockwork mod custom recovery back and ROOT ROOT ROOT.
THANKS AGAIN
IT WAS:
alpharev dot nl/x/beta
you should know how to fix the above link