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[Q] Rooting Questions

Hey, I'm gonna come with a really noobish question I gues... I've read alot of guides and such about this, but I still don't find anything that states it clearly, and it can get kinda confusing.
I have an HTC Desire that I want to root, it has HBoot 0.92 and OTA Froyo 2.2, I don't think this is a problem anymore though?
Now, I believe my phone is unbranded/unlocked - any way to check?
And what radio would I need to use? I'm from denmark and the tele company is called Telia... Does it matter?
And since I'm from denmark, I can't buy any paid apps off the market, and it pisses me off, rooting will fix that right?
I'd like to use the OpenDesire ROM. But it's a bit confusing with all kinds of topics refering to eachother, and the "Ultimate guide on rooting" says that I need HBoot 0.80 and a current rom of 1.15 (or something like that), I have 2.2 >.<
Thanks in advance.

Go to Settings>About phone>Software information
If your phone has S/W 2.09.405.8 then you're on a generic Desire - which is a good thing!!
Next is to check the box specification - if it says you've got a 3.7" AMOLED screen then you can downgrade the HBOOT and root your phone. If it doesn't say AMOLED then you've got a bit more work involved and the information you need is in the ROM Development forum

Hey, thanks for the quick reply!
I got everything you said.
So that means I can just use Unrevoked?
And how about the market? That's one of the main reasons for me to root, so that I'd be able to access the full market?

Bump? Or something

there's no way to root a Desire with the Bootloader HBoot 0.92 known yet, which you got after you've upgraded to Android 2.2.
This means you have to downgrade the bootloader first, root it with unrevoked, ...
There are several guides out there.
But the important thing is, that you must downgrade the Bootloader in order to root your device.

UpSpin said:
there's no way to root a Desire with the Bootloader HBoot 0.92 known yet, which you got after you've upgraded to Android 2.2.
This means you have to downgrade the bootloader first, root it with unrevoked, ...
There are several guides out there.
But the important thing is, that you must downgrade the Bootloader in order to root your device.
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Aye, I kinda wrote that
I'm interested in the market problem for me.

Quick rooting question

Now uh, go easy on me, my first time posting here.
I may seem like a total idiot here, but the amount of conflicting information I've seen is quite confusing. I've searched and searched and the more I read the less I seemed to be sure of.
My question:
Can I do the unrevoked method of rooting ('theunlockr.com - how to root htc desire unrevoked method' 20.9.10) [cant post links] on my specific device?
My handset information is
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT- 0.87.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.09.00.08
Android version: 2.2
Software number: 2.06.832.1
The 0.87 HBOOT seems rather rare on the forums, I don't know why. All I've read is that at one point the 0.87 version could not be rooted, but I don't know if that is still the case (this was information from April-July) and the unrevoked tutorial states that 'At this time, unrevoked3 works on all versions of the supported phones', which my phone would come under the CDMA Desire (BravoC) I'm pretty sure. Just would like some quick confirmation from you lot before I go and do something stupid.
Thanks!

it was mentioned that hboot version doesnt matter when using new unrevoked

If you've got S-OFF then you don't need to root do you? It should already be done...CDMA phones when rooted with unrEVOked get S-OFF
Sounds like you're already rooted, check to see if you've got Superuser Permissions in your program list

Nope, no superuser permissions, and the phones unused.
The fact that the phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM makes it the CDMA 'Bravo' model right?

Well if what you have written is indeed what it says in hboot, then you are s-off and it should be easy to flash or install super user to the phone

My phone supports WCDMA and GSM - it's not the same as CDMA...
Do you use a SIM card in your phone? If so, it's a GSM phone

Just double checked it, it definately says S-OFF, everything in the first post was 100% correct.
Strange, the phone is actually a Hong Kong model that I ordered, saving me quite a bit of money being in Australia. Seems a bit iffy that it was unlocked from the start, actually makes me think it's a used model, even though everything else looks and works flawlessly. Probably shouldn't complain, even though they've caused me a bit of confusion.
So these rooted ROMs that people are developing all contain the superuser permissions application, I can't seem to find that individual application for download though. Hmmm.
edit: found the application, installing.
Ah, so I have the GSM model.

When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
If I were you, I'd follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
and go back to a stock WWE ROM and then root it using unrEVOked 3.14 and then you can flash whatever ROM you want...easier than faffing about with S-OFF and the like (you don't really need it unless you wanna change the initial splash screen or you're a developer)

I got the phone about a week ago.
Cheers for the advice.

EddyOS said:
When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
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Well the hboot version he is mentioning is not the same as the one patched by ieftm, so he might just have recieved a developer device? Sounds strange though.
And as eddyos is saying, you could just flash a ruu and go the traditional route, if you cant figure it out using the s-off hboot. It's pretty cool though.
edit: if it is an actual s-off device, wouldn't the flag for s-off be set and flashing a ruu would not help it? Just like unrevoked forever on evo?

[Q] Telstra HTC desire - cannot install custom rom

Hi, im a bit stuck here, I have a telstra desire with their 2.1 rom, and a hboot of 0.83.0001 it seems to be able to install clockworkmod ok, and I can get into it but when I install a custom rom, after the reboot, it sticks on the telstra splash screen and vibrates 7 times. at this point if I try to boot into recovery it also does the same thing, the only way to recover is to go into fastboot and update the official telstra RUU again.
I have tried the latest Modaco rom and the latest Leedriod rom, both same effect.
this is exactly what I did to install Leedriod:
install clockworkmod from unrevoked3
copied these 2 files to SD:
32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2.zip
LeeDrOiD_V2.1a_NoA2SD.zip
boot into clockworkmod, Erased Data, into advanced, erased davlik cache
install from zip > choose zip to install > chose LeeDriod > installing......
once that finished, I installed the radio, then chose reboot from the clockworkmod menu.
it rebooted and got a little picture of a box and an arrow coming out of it for a few seconds, then I got the telstra spash screen and 7 vibrates.
has anyone got any idea where im going wrong? I cant seem to find any information and im a bit of a noob to android, just defected from the world of WM (Tytn2)

ok so I have done a little bit of trial and error, turns out my problem is the radio.
Tried 2 different radio roms, both end up stopping the phone from booting at all. must be something different to the hardware in this new desire that needs a special radio rom maybe?

jayme,
You've likely hit the nail on the head with your issue. Telstra models of the Desire (8183) use a different set of radio hardware. Telstra runs their own 'Next G' network, which is a different frequency network to the rest of the world.
This frequency (850Mhz) requires different hardware to be installed on the phone, which is why the Telstra version of the phone will only ever work on the Telstra network.
My suggestion would be to find a rom that supports the 850Mhz network, using a compatible radio module. Failing that you may have to learn how to build your own.
Good luck.

I actually installed the leedriod froyo rom fine and it works as long as I leave the original radio module untouched, but then I get the stability issues associated with running earlier radios on froyo. what im wondering is what are all these other telstra users running custom froyo roms using for their radio. ive read guides taht say which radio to install on a telstra desire and mine just doesnt work with those versions.
I may have to wait for the official telstra 2.2. update and the compatible radio rom that comes with it

Waiting sounds like your only option. I bought an unbranded phone to use on the Optus network. Thankfully Froyo 2.2 came out a few weeks back, and I'm quite happy with it.
Waiting can be a pain in the arse and considering how long this country has to wait for things from Telstra, getting 2.2 might be a belated Christmas present next year...
Good luck with whatever you chose.

Try teppic74's Rom here <forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997>.
I had full success and converted my Telstra branded Desire into generic HTC Desire.
NextG functionality was not affected by flashing teppic74's Rom with the Radio.
Cheers

Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N

Hi there. Another telstra desire user here. I've had mine since July, amoled and hboot 0.83. I rooted soon after getting it and have run roms from t-mod and cyanogen from whirlpool.net.au. it's. A great place to start and lots of awesome advice too. I wouldn't be here if not for muskier, Bog, and s-murphy. They have links to radio and roms there. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Sorry I meant to spell muskie and Bof.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

well turns out the 2 radios I flashed happen to be the 2 radios my phoen wont boot with. both of them have _2 at the end. all the rest seem to work fine, I have since updated to the latest radio and im a happy froyo user. as for t-mod, wtf is the point of it lol, my UAstring is not the special telstra one and everything works fine, even data usage

talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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What radio are you running?
How did you do the S-OFF hack? I really want to get rid of the splashscreen...

talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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+1 to talkiet...
I've had about 15 different ROMS and maybe 8 radios on my telstra desire, never had a problem. (mine is the AMOLED version originally HBOOT .75 now .93 version). The only thing that sometimes goes wrong is the APN settings and thats easy to fix.
I'm not sure how all those UA strings work, but to be honest i've not bothered checking my data usage or so on for a fair while, and the Bigpond unmetered sites are pretty worthless anyway. I never go over and I play around with the phone a lot. So, you can put pretty much any ROM on and just tweak the APNs a bit and no worries!
concerning S_OFF,
its not hard to do at all. just follow the instructions on the alpharev site to the letter, I was worried about bricking my phone, same as the first time I put a custom ROM on there, but if you do your homework, you'll be sweet. When you think about it, the S-OFF process is pretty safe as so many people do it and have a look about, there's not many saying they have ruined their phone using the S-OFF program.
The only thing i've actually broken on my phone over the last year is the sd card (very recently), trying to reformat it for data to ext ROM. Of course it was a cheap one and the card that came with the phone (samsung brand i think) worked fine when i formatted it and stuck it in.
Phone: Desire A8183 AMOLED S-OFF
HBOOT .93 and CWM 3.x
ROM: Crystal Kingdom v0.2 D2EXT+ (damo is a legend!!)

htc a8183 show welcom and vibrating
how to s-off this phone
hboot-0.75.0000
radio-4.50.00.11
any one help me

For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders

nlooooo said:
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
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lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
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For me it's the easiest way to upload radio and hboot, get s-off with revolutionary then root and you're open to all possibilities...
That RUU is simply made for all Desires, no brick issues, no radio compatibility issues...

Downgrading 2.50.405.2 to 1.32 ?

Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks

i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait

I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50

Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long

Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?

+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205

So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?

Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD

dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0

Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !

Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..

I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome

Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!

gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.

Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!

I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?

Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong

giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread

[Q] Help, please. Need to Root 2.3.4 DINC

Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.

Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
Sent from my Droid Incredible 3D using XDA App

Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4

resyek83 said:
Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.

I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.

i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?

Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400

I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.

So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.

alexyaz said:
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html