I'm getting prompted in ROM Manager that version 3.0.0.5 is available, but I remember when it first came out it wouldn't let people go into recovery or update their roms/flash ZIP files. Is it safe now? I've been holding out for a while out of fear.
Also, anything new or better from 3.0.0.5 that I'm missing out on?
3.0+ Has faster backups, and updated for the most part, and most important, its running on edify. Not a lot of people are using edify packaging, but if you wanted to use CM7, you have to use CWM 3.0+ or amon_ra recovery.
So if you don't plan on using CM7, staying where you are at is fine.
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3.0+ Has faster backups, and updated for the most part, and most important, its running on edify. Not a lot of people are using edify packaging, but if you wanted to use CM7, you have to use CWM 3.0+ or amon_ra recovery.
So if you don't plan on using CM7, staying where you are at is fine.
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I already have CM7, but I'm still on 2.6, not 3. So does that mean I should update?
To minimize the possibilities of errors, I would update.
I use 2.5.0.7 and cm7. runs fine, I refuse 3x because it won't touch amend while 2x will still
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Should I update to the latest Amon_Ra recovery? Are there any benefits to doing so?
I have v1.8 right now.
1.8 is a good recovery. I would stick with it unless you plan on flashing CM7. The new recovery versions also backup Wimax.
If you don't care about any of that then I would stick with 1.8. Still one of the best out there in my opinion. Works like a champ for most things.
Eventually you will have to update once all the rom developers update their stuff but for now you are good.
Like the user above said, you can keep it or upgrade. If you use rom manager, you can easily flash an older version if you needed to switch roms, but it can be tedious. SO like he said, if you aren't gona be using CM7, or Evervolv, ect, you can hold off...for now.
The new amon (2.2.1) allows you to select a zip from any directory, has selective backup and restore, and also an extended wipe menu. I have been using the beta 2.3 and it is WAY faster, takes me like 90 seconds to backup boot/system/data
So even if you don't want to update to 2.2.1, i would definitely get 2.3 when it is released!
I like 2.2.1 because now i can have a folder structure for all my roms/apps/utilities
I got the following message attempting to update my radio version to 2.15:
Amend Scripting (update-script) is no longer supported.
Amend Scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5
It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recovery.
Pleases switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create working up zip packages.
Installation aborted.
I am very sorry for bring up dead horse type topics, but all the research I try and do leads to circles for me. I'm as experienced with all of this (hopefully someday).
I tried to follow the instructions from
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Is there another way to trick this update into installing maybe?
I used RomManager v3.0.1.1 and used Install ROM from SD Card. It probably flashed the message I got above but I wasn't able to see it.
I used Recovery mode and tried to do it manually, which is where I was able to see the error message..
I have an eery feeling I should be using Amon Ra vs. ClockworkMod ??
thank you!
EricFi said:
I got the following message attempting to update my radio version to 2.15:
Amend Scripting (update-script) is no longer supported.
Amend Scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5
It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recovery.
Pleases switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create working up zip packages.
Installation aborted.
I am very sorry for bring up dead horse type topics, but all the research I try and do leads to circles for me. I'm as experienced with all of this (hopefully someday).
I tried to follow the instructions from
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Is there another way to trick this update into installing maybe?
I used RomManager v3.0.1.1 and used Install ROM from SD Card. It probably flashed the message I got above but I wasn't able to see it.
I used Recovery mode and tried to do it manually, which is where I was able to see the error message..
I have an eery feeling I should be using Amon Ra vs. ClockworkMod ??
thank you!
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I agree that you should be using Amon Ra recovery. I would change to Amon Ra, and then try flashing the radios. That shouldn't give you any troubles. I'll attatch a PC36IMG of Amon Ra. Download it, be sure it is named PC36IMG, and put it on the main directory of your sd card. Boot into the bootloader, wait for it to scan and then ask you to update. Select volume up to accept the update. It will then flash Amon Ra V2.3. Once it's done, boot into recovery. It should now be Amon Ra Supersonic V2.3. Try flashing the radio update again, and it should work now
Thank You very much for the help!
It worked perfectly!
And.. I see Nandroid now!
The radio update took affect after the reboot and hopefully I'll see some results from it.
Now to get the nerve up to put a ROM and kernal on, although I don't know if I need a new kernal, but the update guide I looked at said the cyanogen rom should be installed with the Toast kernal.. so I suppose I'll do that too since it's seems to be what everyone else has been doing too..
Thank you again for the help/advice..
Hope one day I'll b
EricFi said:
Thank You very much for the help!
It worked perfectly!
And.. I see Nandroid now!
The radio update took affect after the reboot and hopefully I'll see some results from it.
Now to get the nerve up to put a ROM and kernal on, although I don't know if I need a new kernal, but the update guide I looked at said the cyanogen rom should be installed with the Toast kernal.. so I suppose I'll do that too since it's seems to be what everyone else has been doing too..
Thank you again for the help/advice..
Hope one day I'll b
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Your welcome. I'm glad it worked out well. And you should have no trouble flashing roms, as the radio flash is far more 'dangerous' than flashing roms or kernels! Just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stable system before changing roms or kernels. And wipe data, cache, and dalvik before a rom flash. Wipe just cache and davlik for a kernel flash. You'll be all set.
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kernels
Last question, hopefully..
I've been reading up on whether or not to install a kernal after the rom.
I decided I'm going to try the MikFroyo4.5 Rom or cyanogen 6
It seems there's a debate as to whether or not an updated kernel is needed.
I decided on: netarchy 4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc
My big question.. Do I really need to do this?
I did a Nand Backup and it went well.
I'm going to do another in the morning because I'm paranoid, and clear off the backup files from my SD to my local hard drive, and make a list of the apps I have on it.. although I uninstalled quite a few just because.
I tried Titanium backup and it's installed, but the icon doesn't show.
So it sounds to me like my 2.1 is ready for retirement!
The most confusing part is to me is the kernel's.. I must have blinders on, I can't really find a real reason to update them aside from possibly more battery life or a speed enhancement?
If my 4G breaks.. it was meant to be!
Thank you!
EricFi said:
Last question, hopefully..
I've been reading up on whether or not to install a kernal after the rom.
I decided I'm going to try the MikFroyo4.5 Rom or cyanogen 6
It seems there's a debate as to whether or not an updated kernel is needed.
I decided on: netarchy 4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc
My big question.. Do I really need to do this?
I did a Nand Backup and it went well.
I'm going to do another in the morning because I'm paranoid, and clear off the backup files from my SD to my local hard drive, and make a list of the apps I have on it.. although I uninstalled quite a few just because.
I tried Titanium backup and it's installed, but the icon doesn't show.
So it sounds to me like my 2.1 is ready for retirement!
The most confusing part is to me is the kernel's.. I must have blinders on, I can't really find a real reason to update them aside from possibly more battery life or a speed enhancement?
If my 4G breaks.. it was meant to be!
Thank you!
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You don't have to change kernel if you don't want to, but there's really no reason not to, as long as you have a solid nandroid backup to go back to. Roms come with a kernel cooked into it already, so its not required that you change it You always have the option change kernels, and there are various reasons to change them. Every phone may run differently on the same kernel . The kernel that comes baked into a rom may be great for one guy, but horrible on your phone. It takes a bit of playing around to find out which kernels are best for your phone. You may notice that with some kernels, your battery life is garbage, or the phone lags, or you get random reboots etc. Others you'll find perform great and have great battery life. A kernel that runs good on one rom may or may not run good on a different rom. There are a lot of variables, and as I said, you need to find out which ones work good for you, by trying them out. And be sure to use sense kernels on sense, and aosp kernels on aosp (goes without saying, but I've seen people make that mistake)
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I need help fast...
I got my Htc Incredible replace today and as soon I got it I rooted the phone and I use a custom recovery image to root.. everything went well but when I got the Rom manager from the market and now its asking me to flash a recovery but I dont want to flash to the v3.. I wanna stay with the 2.5 version is there any way I can flash a image with rom manager instead of flashing the new version..
thanks .
EDIT: re-read post.
If you rooted with the latest unrevoked, you should be on 2.5 anyway. The latest ROM Manager only works with the 3.x recoveries. So, either don't use rom manager, (Flash stuff manually) or upgrade.
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All the CWM recoverie are here. http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/
2.5.1.2 here, RM should be able to flash it.
http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.2-inc.zip
And there's always 2.5.0.5 PB31IMG.zip, via unrevoked forever.
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
If you want the older version of CWM to persist, don't update it in rommanager. Note that when flashing stuff, you do it through recovery, not rommanager.
I have the older CWM, rommanager v 3.0.7, works to create backups. Use recovery to flash and restore.
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Welp
Personally, I stay away from RomManager. Have never seen something work in RomManager that didn't also work (better) straight out of CWM Recovery.
I am still on 2.5.x.x as well; 3.0.0.5 and 3.0.0.8 seem to cause WAY too much trouble, and there is no clarification from Koush that he is resolving those bugs.
I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
Great Offender said:
I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
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I think 3.0.0.7 had an SLCD issue. You must have an SLCD Incredible. You might try 3.0.0.8, I believe it works fine with the newer Incredibles.
Im currnetly running 2.6 version of Clockwork and its been running fine. Should I upgrade to the latest 3.0x? Whats the benefit??
tlxxxsracer said:
Im currnetly running 2.6 version of Clockwork and its been running fine. Should I upgrade to the latest 3.0x? Whats the benefit??
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If it is doing what you want and you're not having problems with it, then don't fix what isn't broken......but if you're curious to see the changes, go ahead. Use the ROM Manager app to effortlessly switch back and forth between the two.
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Cwm 3.0+ does not support amend scripting. Just stay with what u got or switch to amon_ra
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Amend scritping it what?
ROMs/kernels are built on either Edify or Amend scripting. Lots of things are still Amend, so keep your current one or move to Amon RA. Just my advice.
+1 to amon ra2.3
Happy new year all!
Been running rooted stock for a few months now, pretty happy with it despite rosie restarts so I might take the plunge and install virtuous sense 2.0.0.
When I rooted my phone, I used rom manager to install clockworkmod recovery, however I used the latest version at that time which was 5.0.2.7.
My question is, I read that version 5 can be a bit flakey with recoveries, should I install CWM 3.0.2.4 instead as it appears to be the recommended one?
If yes, how does it work with installing another recovery, will it overwrite 5.0.2.7 or will it leave me with two recoveries?
Nothing wrong with 5.0.2.7
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Good stuff, just wanted to check that.
Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.
Stargazer418 said:
Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.
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Much easier to use, much more options (like recover deleted files).
You could install ROM Manager from Android Market and then install new version from this SW.
Stargazer418 said:
Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.
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I've been hearing a lot about 4EXT. What would be the best way of removing CWM and installing this?
Myrmidon83 said:
I've been hearing a lot about 4EXT. What would be the best way of removing CWM and installing this?
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Go to 4ext.net and install the free 4EXT Recovery Updater application to your phone. Choose the topmost option, make sure you're in the Touch tab, then tap the newest version to download and install it. It will automatically replace CWM, and it is fully supported in ROM Manager.
I'll throw in for 4EXT as well. Highly recommended.
Stargazer418 said:
Go to 4ext.net and install the free 4EXT Recovery Updater application to your phone. Choose the topmost option, make sure you're in the Touch tab, then tap the newest version to download and install it. It will automatically replace CWM, and it is fully supported in ROM Manager.
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Ah it overwrites CWM, ok, I might try it out then.
downloading 4ext now, overwriting cwm 5.0.2.0 - will report back
How did it go?
I found that I couldn't do backups with rom manager with 4ext installed.
arkoze said:
downloading 4ext now, overwriting cwm 5.0.2.0 - will report back
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Hi, any update? I am also on CWM 5.0.2.0 and think to switch to 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.4 RC 1.