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Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
SHicks18 said:
Okay, first timer here and I have a few questions. I just completed rooting my phone via Simple Root. My build number is now 1.17.651.1.
My questions are as follows:
1) Now that I am rooted, what installation files can I delete from my SD Card?
2) I see that I need to do a recovery flash, do I do this immediately? What one do you recommend?
3) After I do the flash, are there any others files I need to install before I do a custom rom?
4) Which custom rom do you recommend?
5) Am I leaving anything else out that I forgot?
Thank you so much in advance!
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After you have rooted you can delete nearly anything you want, I wouldn't suggest doing it because I doubt you know what to do. But you do have the freedom to..
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
After rooting you can look into upgrading your radio and your wimax and your kernal.
Custom roms are like sneakers, They all have different purpose and size. The most common ones are damagedcontrol and fresh. Do your research and experiment and find your sneaker. You can also just wait til the official stable cm6 comes out. For now I use fresh.
Try oUt some themes and different apps that are for rooted devices only. And there us always something neiw to do with your evo.
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I am in the same boat as OP. I managed to make my way through SimpleRoot. But I am having a heck of a time digging through the forums to figure out what to do next. I feel like kind of an idiot, but I have no idea how to set up my backup/recovery "amon ra" right? And then I'd like to install the rooted 1.47 build and update my radio and wimax. Any direction would be VERY appreciated.
Thanks for the reply. Mind pointing me in the right direction for the radio kernel and wimax?
I'm new to this too. Read up a lot first. Easy root looks to make it pretty easy, but I learned more doing it the hard way. Used the two part method in dev section, by toast I think, with adb, nand unlock and all. Helps to understand the odd file structure, and what different parts do. You have to try things too, and just hope you don't f up. Using cm6 now and its pretty cool. Have fun man.
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Liked he said read. And do a lot of it. Last thing you want is to brick your phone
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gangsterholla179 said:
I would suggest you flash a recovery as soon as possible. It makes life easier. The two most common recovery are Amon Ra And clockwork.. I use amon Ra just because it had a better wipe feature but clockwork is used in rom manAger (look in to it).
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What's wrong with Clockwork's wipe feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734564&highlight=clockwork
Also, as for flashing a recovery, if you install ROM Manager from the market, it will give you an option to flash either Clockwork or Amon RA. It will stay there even if you flash new ROMs later, though there's a quirk where a new ROM Manager install will ask you to flash recovery, but then if one is already there it won't really change it, it just needs to see it to believe it.
Installing new files won't make a difference if you switch ROMs. It wipes your data when you re-flash, so you'll lose it all anyway (unless you back up your apps with Titanium Backup or MyBackup). All you need is a recovery installed - and I actually recommend Clockwork, but only because I use it myself and I have no problems with it - and you can reboot into it, install a new ROM, and start playing. I've never flashed from ROM Manager, even though it gives the option, but I imagine it does the same thing, but runs it automatically after a recovery reboot.
Read the "favorite ROM" thread with the poll attached, lots of good ROM recommendations in there. I'll say it once more: I'm using Fresh 1.0.1 and netarchy's 3.7.3c kernel (Fresh-compatible version). It's so fast and smooth.
If you like your current setup but want to try a new ROM, use ROM Manager (or Clockwork as a recovery reboot) to do a Clockwork backup. That way you can return to your current state if you want to. It's basically a system image that you can restore.
Here's one helpful page to start with.
And have fun.
Back on fresh 0.5.3, clockwork was not doing a great job with the wipe, causing the boot to loop. I believe it wasn't completely wiping the dalik cache.
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I will admit that I am a noob at this so... bear with the noobness
I have rooted my 3.30 EVO and have installed the Cyanogen 6.1.2 ROM. I backed up my nandroid and wiped using the partition option and the factory option as instructed in every tutorial. Cyanogen 6.1.2 works great in itself, the problem I'm running into is trying to install any CM themes...
I've tried installing the Project_BlissHD-v2.0_EVO_CM_6.1.2_signed theme .zip for CM 6.1.2 through the recovery (not even sure if this is the right way to do it), but every time I try, it tells me that the installation is aborted.
I wipe before each try and have even completely restored a backup and reinstalled with no success.
I have searched and searched for a thread that could help, as I didn't want to have to post a question if I could avoid it. So, how to I apply specific themes through CM? Here's what I've got:
ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.2
Build 3.30.651
Used Unrevoked 3.3
And again, please forgive the noobness....
Clockwork 3.0.0.2 is only compatible with the new hboot. If you're on the old hboot, roll back to 2.5 and try it again.
I had the same problem .. I made a thread about it .. I'm about to try what BIG CHEEZE suggested
I use Amon_Ra ,myself. I would suggest using that one perhaps since it does a better job emptying the delvik cache.
Cheese, I'll try your suggestion about the rollback. I can just do that right in clockwork, correct? If that doesn't work, I'll try Jason's suggestion. Jason, which amon ra version?
And thanks to both of you!
Just use ROM Manager to roll back. You can flash Amon RA through ROM Manager as well.
You're welcome.
Use version 1.8 since I've been hearing some weird things about 1.9.
hummm
i get "An error occured while flashing your recovery" error when i tried to rollback to 2.5.1.4
I'm going to flash RA 1.8 right now.... let you know how she goes.
Ok, so here is how it went:
Flashed AmonRa 1.8 through Clockwork
Success
Booted into AmonRa recovery. Backed up a fresh nand, wiped DATA, CACHE and Delvik. Installed Cyanogen 6.1.2
Success
Cyanogen boots.
Success
Boot back into AmonRa. Repeat all the wipes. Proceed to install BlissHD pack for CM. Installs succesfully.
CM attempts to boot again, but just gets hung up on the splash screen, repeating a new splash every 3 seconds or so. Rebooted several times to see if that would help. No dice. Restored back up nand and am back to square one.
Suggestions?
It sounds like the theme you want is not gonna work with the stock cm6.1.2 kernel...my suggestion would be to try a different theme
I recommend barnacles10 ginger bread theme.
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Also when you flash a theme...be patient on its first boot. Restarting during a boot that is loading files for your droid has had horrible results with my experience.
I was flashing a radio update and thought that boot loop was frozen..so I pulled the battery..restarted..and was stuck on the boot screen..then my battery dies while in the process of using hboot...and my usb cord wouldn't charge the battery..so I had to wait 7 days for a standalone battery charger to be shipped
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That's kind of where I figured I was heading, jst. I'm going to play around with it tonight and I'll let you know tomorrow how it went. Might try completely different mods too... thinking about fresh.
Again, thanks a lot guys. BIG help.
The theme works great with cm 6.1.2. There are many people using it right now. I'm unsure of what could be happening here. Some phones are just picky. Mine for instance bootloops with any of myns roms as well as virus rom but I have no problems with other roms. I'm sorry my theme didn't work out for you.
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The theme works great with cm 6.1.2. There are many people using it right now. I'm unsure of what could be happening here. Some phones are just picky. Mine for instance bootloops with any of myns roms as well as virus rom but I have no problems with other roms. I'm sorry my theme didn't work out for you.
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Hey, it's no sweat! I've seen all the pics of your theme and I really wanted it. It's slick as all-hell, lol. And as for certain phones being picky, that's more than likely the case with my EVO. Since day one, my phone won't charge if turned off, and if I plug it in while it's off, I have to remove the battery to get it to turn on again.
Don't need to apologize to me... I should be thanking you for making something like this accessible to me!!!
You need the correct amonra recovery.
t3project said:
The theme works great with cm 6.1.2. There are many people using it right now. I'm unsure of what could be happening here. Some phones are just picky. Mine for instance bootloops with any of myns roms as well as virus rom but I have no problems with other roms. I'm sorry my theme didn't work out for you.
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mikfroyo evo, with a side of aloysius 5 !
Alright, think I know whats up... I decided to humor a thought I had and install a fresh Cyanogen after a nand backup. I installed 6.1.2 and then installed the Gingerbread as recommended by jst. Only this time, I didn't wipe before I installed the theme. Worked like a charm. I'm going to try this with other themes too and see how it goes.
Kush explains why they don't work right here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897026
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stricklerjosh said:
You need the correct amonra recovery.
mikfroyo evo, with a side of aloysius 5 !
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really? lol
I got it to work fine by not wiping before theme install, just mod install. t3, your theme looks awesome on my EVO. Thanks!!!
Okay so i had CM6.1.1 flashed onto my evo and everything was working fine. i installed the new version of clockwork mod on my phone and i found something else i wanted to flash. i tried to reboot my phone and now everything force closes. and i mean EVERYTHING! i tried to restore all of my backups and none are working. can anyone help?
dude what i just did was go to rom manager and scroll all the way down flash alternate recovery and after its installed go and tap om clockworkmod recoveries and install the 2.5.0.1 and your good to go !!
JJS714 said:
Okay so i had CM6.1.1 flashed onto my evo and everything was working fine. i installed the new version of clockwork mod on my phone and i found something else i wanted to flash. i tried to reboot my phone and now everything force closes. and i mean EVERYTHING! i tried to restore all of my backups and none are working. can anyone help?
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I doubt *flashing* clockwork would cause force closes. But you can always revert back to 2.5.0.1 or AmonRa and restore a backup. Check the "Legacy" area of ROM Manager.
I also had this problem as ROM manager kept informing me that a new version of clockwork mod was available. after "updgrading" I couldn't flash any new ROMs and got a truncated message that during the process that 3.0 series clockwork mod needed to have some files deleted due to changes with Gingerbread and something about google.... (sorry about the lack of good definition on this, but the text was truncated and I was freaking out at the time since I started getting stuck at the white HTC boot screen.) Eventually I was able to perform a recovery and finally flash back to clockwork 2.5 and everything is OK now.
Strangely, after doing this ROM Manager indicated that 2.5 CW was the current version... However, after a few hours I started getting the message to "upgrade" to 3.0 again. I'll just ignore that for now.
Does anyone know why 3.0 is not working for everyone?
I got this also, but i wasnt using CM...i was on a sense mod and was able to restore a different rom and went to the new amon-RA instead.
Maybe its something with CM specifically
It has to do with the scripts used in the update.zips. Most people are still using the olds version used in 1.5... Net said that he had to change it to the new scripts used in gingerbread which makes it not work with any updates or backups made prior. There is a topic on it in here where he explains it. He says to flash the 2.5 if it's not letting you update something.
snappydave said:
I also had this problem as ROM manager kept informing me that a new version of clockwork mod was available. after "updgrading" I couldn't flash any new ROMs and got a truncated message that during the process that 3.0 series clockwork mod needed to have some files deleted due to changes with Gingerbread and something about google.... (sorry about the lack of good definition on this, but the text was truncated and I was freaking out at the time since I started getting stuck at the white HTC boot screen.) Eventually I was able to perform a recovery and finally flash back to clockwork 2.5 and everything is OK now.
Strangely, after doing this ROM Manager indicated that 2.5 CW was the current version... However, after a few hours I started getting the message to "upgrade" to 3.0 again. I'll just ignore that for now.
Does anyone know why 3.0 is not working for everyone?
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They put up a new version of Clockworkmod recovery 2.6.0.1. This will work for all that had problems with the 3.0.XXX versions of the recovery. All the goodies of the 3.0XXX but with amend support so it will work with all roms.
All I can say is that Amon has never let me down. May want to check it out if you haven't already. Even their recent update was smooth as silk. No problems for me.
I had this happen to me too with a flash resulting in the white evo screen loop. I was able to flash to the amon ra 1.8 but I couldn't flash anything. So I upgarded to the new version of RA but am still not able to flash anything. I go into the white evo screen loop and then I have to pull the battery and nand a restore. Not sure what I need to do now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem.
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary.
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now.
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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thegh0st said:
please feel free to direct me to any threads I might have missed - there is sooo many on here...
I have spent the last 2 to 3 weeks reading forums & articles (mostly from xda here once I found it or sites linked from here). I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
but before I dive in again I thought it wouldn't hurt to sign up here and ask questions (even repetitive dumb ones to some I'm sure) & get input. thanks for any help in advance.
and to let everyone know a little about me - I work on computers for a living and have for quite a few years now so I am alright with technical things and electronics. (more of a hardware guy but I install software & OS's etc.) I have flashed many motherboards also which flashing the phone sounds similar.
ok so on to my questions (these are in no order either just as I remember them)
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
if necessary I want to use the Amon_RA from what I have read to. do I need to download and flash this separately? I thought I read it was part of the ROM package but I can not find where I read that at right now.
(some roms may include a customer recovery, yes. However, you will need root AND an unlocked boot loader (meaning "s" is off or you have the engineering hboot) to flash a custom rom that would include a custom recovery.)
btw - I have saved all my phones info (software & hardware versions) if that would help with answers
before I go further I will try to keep it brief and give some information as to what I would like (I have read those threads to so I am pretty sure about this for now) - I am looking to go with the latest SprintLovers ROM. well I would actually luv gingerbread but I'm not ready for anything to "not" work. if I understand this correctly SprintLovers should have everything stock and be unlocked. I want what I have now including my 4G (I didn't see 4G listed as not working for this ROM) to work but I want what Sprint is keeping me from taking advantage of to - all the goodness built into Froyo but mainly full non-restricted wired & wireless tethering. I have also decided to go with the deodexed (sp?) version to have everything possibly necessary. (tethering is controlled by the kernel. If the Sprint Lover's rom is based off of a stock kernel, wireless tether will NOT work. You would need to flash a custom kernel that would allow for that.)
this will take up more room though on the built in memory right?
(not sure)
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
let's see
oh yes about doing a NANDROID backup - from everything I have read it seems like this backup occurs after the rooting AND flashing of a new ROM to the phone - am I right about this? if so that means I am just backing up my NEW ROM I just flashed? and not the stock one I had from the factory? if so is there no way to backup the stock ROM? or is that just completely unnecessary and being paranoid on my end as I have read about unrooting and using a stock RUU which I guess would be the same thing my phone has right now?
(no....you are backing up your current rom so you can go back to it should you get some kind of error while flashing the new rom)
is it possible to just backup the wimax partition - root my phone - flash the SprintLovers ROM and be done without flashing a kernel or the wimax partition? (is that the right order?)
(yes, you can root with Unrevoked Forever which gives you root and changes your hboot to s-off and then flash the Sprint Lovers rom without a kernel....again, don't mess with the Wimax unless it gets borked and you have to.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
one the threads I am going by and planning to follow is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
but I do have a question - the instructions under "Lets Get Rooted!"
- well it states to push two files to the phone - PC36IMG.zip & PC36IMG-MR.zip then goes on to instruct on renaming the first to PC36IMG-ENG.zip and renaming the second to PC36IMG.zip and flashing both - why is this? what does MR stand for? I am guessing that is not 2 ROMs is it? if it is why would that be necessary? on that thread it also says he is using the SprintLovers ROM but if I go to the SprintLovers ROM thread the instructions there don't mention flashing PC36IMG.zip twice. the download I followed from the SprintLovers thread only linked me to download one PC36IMG.zip also (which I downloaded).
(That thread is from November and very outdated. Do NOT try any of that because it will not work. Go here http://unrevoked.com/#evo and read. If you're tech inclined, this will be VERY easy for you to do.) Edit: I see this thread was updated 1/26. However, I am not familiar with this root method, so I prefer not to comment on it. Read, read and read. Also, check which software version your phone has and look for a root method for that particular software. Although I believe that Unrevoked currently works with all software version.)
lastly (i think), how does my phone know to keep it's phone number or that it is still a sprint device and that it should talk to sprint to make phone calls and such? is that built in somewhere else or another part of the built in memory that does not get flashed?
(How does the phone know? I don;t know, but you don't have to worry about this. You do not need to call Sprint and reactivate your phone after rooting or flashing.)
thanks again to anyone and everyone who has time to help me. feel free to point me in the right direction if you have read my post and feel I am misunderstanding something. i look forward to learning some more & finally getting my phone rooted.
(sorry about the huge post & if I posted this in the wrong spot)
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Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom. Inregards to Clockwork vs Amon, If you root with Unrevoked you will have clockwork, if you wish to switch Ra recovery, you should follow the step by step instructions in the Ra Recovery thread in the development section.
Sprint Lovers is a Sense rom, which means it is 100% functional, the only 90% roms are AOSP(MIUI, CM, Gingerbread, ect..) if a rom is based on the 3.70 OTA Update it will be a sense rom, and be 100% functional. Before you Flash any rom, ALWAYS go into your recovery and Wipe Data, Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache. Perform all wipes twice for best results. In Ra recovery these are all in the front page, in clockwork you need to go to advanced to access the dalvik wipe.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
Your phone keeps its number because the only thing flashing changes is your software, it doesn't change your phones ID numbers that were activated on the sprint network.
Here are some Links for you.
Unrevoked Root Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895208
Ra Recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Sprint Lovers Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
Again if you are new to all of this, Unrevoked is the fastest simplest method to rooting your phone.
I think you got two very good answers... Unrevoked by far easiest and trouble free rooting procedure IMO out there. I would just flash Amon recovery afterwards.
Also there is a nice program to help with other things called androidcommander.
Backing up your programs you can try MYBAckup
Like said previously no need to back up your rom but look into SPB Backup or Sprite Backup if you are still concerned
I think you have a pretty good handle on the phone stuff and the other answers you got were awesome...(gotta love the xda community!!)
My only gotchas you have to pay attention for are.
1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
2. Getting the custom recovery (whther clockwork or amon ra) gives you great options to flash new stuff and backup existing installations, keeping backups is your friend!
3. I prefer Amon Ra over clockwork but clockwork is not a bad recovery, it's just preference (there are also certain posts out there that have clockwork being required to use for CM7, this may or may not be the case, I love me some Amon Ra)
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
6. If something goes wrong don't get discouraged! restoring a nandroid or reflashing a rom will clear things up usually...
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
Forum advice
1. ignore the unfriendly people on the forums...they have nothing better to do than sit around and wait for people to ask dumb questions and get to use the same cliched links and jpegs to post to your question / thread...
2. Search and read and read and read before posting something that may have been covered.
Hope this helps, feel free to PM me, though I'm nowhere near the geniuses who are on these forums, so I'm closer to you than you think.
thanks for all the answers so far!
I am aware from all the reading and more reading not to mess with the wimax (RSA keys) as for flashing unless it is a last ditch effort to fix 4G. in my OP I just reference them to be sure on my understanding and how I am perceiving things to work. I believe the more I understand (basics, mechanics, etc.) the easier time I will have and the easier to trouble shoot.
oh and I have read and understand to backup the wimax/RSA keys also. that is made really clear in the threads I have read.
also I see everyone is saying to use unrevoked but from what I read here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
...I was not really looking to go that way. it states in this thread for the 3rd option "Longer step by step version: - Complicated and more time consuming but easier to troubleshoot" which is the way I would like to go so I understand more and have a better way to trouble shoot. I wouldn't wanna one click and bork with nothing to understand if that makes sense.
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
btw - just in case this helps:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP s-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
OCT 15 2010, 12:07:00
Software information
Android version
2.2
Baseband version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel version
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
[email protected] #15
Build number
3.70.651.1 CL294884 release-keys
Software number
3.70.651.1
Browser version
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version
60674
Hardware information
Hardware version
0003
- that is my current phone info (oh doh I was going to reference replies but I gotta wait 5 min first)
thegh0st said:
now from what I have read SprintLovers ROM has a built in wireless tether I thought so I guess this ROM has it's own kernel then from the information everyone has provided me with so far. is that typical for a ROM to have it's own kernel built and flashed with the ROM the same way some ROM's have their own recovery tool? if so I can live with that.
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A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
Tuffgong4 said:
1. Having the correct drivers installed to use unrevoked. It is in the tutorials and in the instructions so you should be good
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see above reply
4. at the bare minimum wipe cache and davlik in recovery when installing kernels, roms, and what not...I prefer a full wipe when switching between roms but if I'm just upgrading through betas or using the same devs roms I normally don't fully wipe.
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this can be done with the stock setup right?
5. Use Calkulins Format All.zip to do a full wipe, it just feels safer to use.
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so I would use this .zip and flash it like you flash a ROM or recovery etc.?
7. IMPORTANT - if you install new radios or PRIs or anything like this DO NOT PULL YOUR BATTERY IF IT TAKES A WHILE, just let it work...you will have problems...Using the sprint lovers all in one I feel is the safest route.
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thanks - good to keep in mind if I ever have to
Forum advice
1. ignore the unfriendly people on the forums...they have nothing better to do than sit around and wait for people to ask dumb questions and get to use the same cliched links and jpegs to post to your question / thread...
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I am usually pretty good at letting the water slide off and I tend to think I won't know things if I don't ask
2. Search and read and read and read before posting something that may have been covered.
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promise I have read a lot!
Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
rugedraw said:
A lot of roms come with a 3rd party kernel already built into it. The OP of the thread you got the rom from says (or should say) if and what kernel was baked into the rom. Some devs will even recommend custom kernels that have been tested with their rom.
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thanks! I might have just missed that or forgotten (I will check that thread again) - i've got a jumble of info/things in my mind atm but once I actually do this and the more I do, well that usually straightens things out
1. As for rooting method there are a few but the easiest (at least to me) is unrevoked. Install drivers set your phone to charge only and wait a few minutes, voila! it's rooted.
4. It can be done with a custom recovery
5. Yes you flash it like a regular .zip like a rom or kernel (it's not 100% necessary but I like having it on my sd card and I normally combine it with a wipe from just the custom recovery
Khilbron said:
Ok, so TL;DR you are curious about rooting.
The absolute fastest and simplest way to root would be to use Unrevoked, just google unrevoked and read their guide, there is even a video tutorial step by step. Unrevoked has been updated to all versions of the EVO. When you root with Unrevoked, it automatically changes your recovery from the Stock unusable recovery to Clockwork mod 2.6.
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again see my reply - trying not to use the one click method
When you flash a Rom, it comes already with a kernel, you can choose to change the Kernel but this is not required, Flashing wimax keys is not something you do, what you do is create a backup and this will backup your wimax keys. It is confirmed that Clockwork 2.6 makes a backup of your wimax keys.
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doh! you answered one of my follow up questions right here lol so they do come with a kernel - gotcha! - and from all the reading I have done I understand about the wimax/RSA keys - I believe I read a thread and someone who answered said Amon_RA backs them up to but I will make a manual backup also to be sure
You cannot make a backup of your unrooted stock rom, however as soon as you become rooted, you can make a backup of your stock rooted rom.
In regards to nandroid, you cannot do this without rooting, Once you root you will have a custom recovery, from inside your custom recovery you will select Nandroid(Clockwork), or Backup/Restore(Ra Recovery), and perform your backup. Both is these recoveries will make a backup of your Wimax keys, Ra Recovery is the only one that lets you select individual items to backup. Please also note, if you make a backup with clockwork it is only good with clockwork, and if you backup with RA it is only good with RA. So if you decide to change recoveries, you must redo your backups.
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thanks for all this and the info on what the backups are actually called per recovery - that is some great info - it seems I was correct in thinking I could not do a nandroid without rooting but I could do a nandroid or Amon_RA backup before flashing a ROM & technically a nandroid is the backup term for clockwork. glad to know this and what Amon_RA is called - I mighta been wondering where I messed up going with Amon_RA and not finding a nandroid option.
now you say I will have a custom recovery once I root? but I the reply before yours states I can root and leave everything stock to?
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
rugedraw said:
See my comments in red.
I think I have a lot of things down and I even attempted to start my first root but after trying to use the adb shell I could not get a response from my phone. after reading and re-reading I determined that my EVO needs a factory reset before this will work (have not done this as of yet). I even confirmed this on another thread with someone else having a similar problem. (factory reset is NOT needed to root)
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according the long method (this is the method I would prefer to use) this is required to use z4root (temp root) and get the phone to respond and is supported here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891674&highlight=z4root - please let me know if I read that wrong or misunderstood
as I said flashing a phone sounds similar but it sounds like there is approximately 4 different things to flash? is that right? a ROM, a recovery tool, you're wimax partition/key (might be saying this one technically wrong), and a kernel?
(technically, you don't need to flash any of these to have root. You can use Unrevoked to obtain root and keep the stock rom, kernel and recovery. Do NOT mess with flashing anything for your Wimax UNLESS you absolutely have to; meaning it doesn't work)
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I was just making sure I understood how things work here - thank you though - and yes I know not to flash wimax/RSA keys - also about unrevoked see my other replies - not looking to use the one click method if possible
is a recovery tool (which is Amon_RA or clockwork - is that right to?) completely necessary? is there a stock version? also the HBOOT is just the boot loader right? nothing to do with the recovery tool if I understand correctly.
(with a customer recovery, it will make things like flashing and creating NAND back-ups much easier. Download ROM Manager (I suggest the premium version), and once you have root with Unrevoked, you can flash either clockwork or Amon recovery using this app. Please remember if you create a NAND back up with Amon, you can only restore it with Amon recovery and vice versa)
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thanks for this information to - very helpful - now about the ROM manager and using it to get a custom recovery I would do this after I get rooted right?
another question arises from the above - is it not possible to just root my phone and then continue using my stock ROM? or is the stock sprint ROM also locked in some manner to some degree (like being odexed if I understand the meaning correctly)? where I would not be able to use/install apps that require a rooted device
(yes, you can just root the stock rom and keep that.....a lot of people prefer it this way. It will be odexed, but you can find a deodexed version of the stock rom on here if it means that much to you.)
as for the kernel I have read many threads on that to and would just like to continue using the stock kernel for now. (if you want wireless tether, a stock HTC kernel will not work. Again, depending on the kernel that comes on the rom you choose, you may or not be able to use this feature.)
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so if root my phone & I stay with stock (ROM & kernel) then I can install some root requiring apps but I wouldn't be able to get tethering? is that right? I don't care if it is sprint's hotspot or an after market app. I just would like one that works
and thank you very much again for all the information and answers!
topdawgn8 said:
Good information from everyone...just my two cents:
You can use Wireless Tether with the stock kernel; however, from what I understand you will not be able to use the naitive hotspot.
The link you posted for rooting is my favorite method. It works on HW 0004 and HW 0003, along with HBOOT 2.10
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thanks! I am definitely not worried about the native built in hotspot - just a wireless tether (and wired) that works - third party/after market - which ever
sounds like something to try at least before completely flashing the ROM
n00bhackin said:
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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I am hardly the one to be answering for sure but from all the reading I have done I believe I did read at the very least a couple of times that you rename your backup file as PC36IMG.zip and flash it so I would think it is like just flashing a ROM but we would be flashing our backups.
hopefully someone with more knowledge will answer and confirm our thoughts
as for if that brings the wimax/RSA keys - good question
n00bhackin said:
This has helped me too, but I do have a couple extra questions:
1) Root
2) Nand backup using recovery of choice.
3) Flash a ROM
OK, if after #3 I find my 4g is borked and have lost my RSA keys, would flashing the backup made in #2 restore the lost keys correctly?
And, is restoring a Nand backup just like flashing a ROM?
Thanks,
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Only if you backed up your wimax.img. In Amon Ra's backup you can select Wimax as one of the items to back up during a nandroid. I'm not sure about Clockwork recovery but in Amon Ra's it is not on by default. I created it once and haven't done it again as I have it backed up to my pc.
Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
n00bhackin said:
Yup, would make sure I had everything backed up before I went flashing ROMs. Just want to make sure that I can recover everything using the nand backup (inc Keys) if something flashes wrong.
I live and travel in 4G areas, and don't want to lose that access.
So as I hear it I back up with Clock or RA w/ all options check, and if I needed to restore just rename to PC36IMG.zip and flash on that.
Thanks for the info,
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Actually just do a nandroid restore in the recovery and everything comes back. I have never used the PC36IMG.zip method. I also don't suggest restoring the wimax.img unless you have 4g problems, there is no reason otherwise...I suggest doing the backup and then saving the img in a safe place...
You can do a restore without certain .imgs in it.
Sweet...thanks so much, that just upped my confidence level to root. Needed to know I could and how to restore back to a starting point. Looks like I got a project now for this weekend...Root here I come....
Now I just gotta choose from all the great ROMs out there. Decisions decisions decisions.
Hi All, let me start with a warning…
total Android n00b here, doing his first ROM flash on a newly rooted T-Mobile G2. I’ve read and searched a bit in the forum threads to see if I could solve this on my own, but I do need help.
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.82.0000 (PC1010000)
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.02.01.15_M2
eMMC - boot
Aug 20 2010, 16:51:01
This is from using the instructions in Strawmetal’s PDF guide to Downgrading from Gingerbread to Froyo and Root. I am working with a G2 phone that was set to Factory Reset before rooting, so there is no user data to backup or worry about.
1. I downloaded the Andromadus Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM image, and verified the md5 checksum on my sdcard using the AFV Legacy application. The Gapps image also was verified as well.
2. Using ROM Manager 5.0.0.8 from the Google Market, I ran Clockwork Recovery to install the Andromadus image. I left all settings on defaults and the installer ran fine.
3. When it restarted, I was left stuck at the white HTC screen for ages… the longest I left it was 20 mins. After that, I pulled the battery and restarted. Same white HTC screen.
4. I tried using Volume (+) key and Power On to get back to Clockwork Recovery, but the phone vibrated (buzzed) 3x times quickly, and the Power LED lamp pulsed an amber color. Again, yank battery, restart, same white HTC screen.
5. finally I decided to read more of the help for adb, and found the command “adb reboot-bootloader”. This let me get into the default Recovery mode, and it proceeded to find the PC10IMG.zip I still had on the sdcard from doing the Froyo downgrade. Recovery checked it out, ran it and restored the stock Froyo image and my phone did a proper restart. WHEW.
After that, I had to run adb to install the hboot recovery image file, and the busybox checksums were valid according to Strawmetal’s PDF instructions to get permanent root back after restoring the stock Froyo image.
I have done this process about 4 times, and am really good at typing inside adb now
But I’m lost…
-did I pick a ROM that doesn’t work with the G2? Other posters to the forum thread appear to be using the HTC Vision or G2.
-is ROM Manager not a good way to install a ROM?
-when I tried to get back into Recovery, what do the 3x buzzes/amber power LED mean?
-I never got to install the Gapps image; was I supposed to install that first, then the ROM image?
I imagine I did something wrong (duh!), but I can’t spot it. If someone can help me through this, I’d appreciate some advice very much.
thanks!
Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).
Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Hi Nospin,
Thank you very much for your suggestions!
I will revise my root and remove Clockwork, and switch to 4EXT instead.
I appreciate the idea of "superwipe"; I will look for that as well today.
If I understand everything right...
-replace CWM with 4EXT
-place superwipe.zip, Gapps.zip and the Mimicry ROM.zip on the top level of the sdcard first.
-reboot the phone and run 4EXT recovery
-select superwipe to run first, then the ROM and then Gapps
-then restart the phone
When I used CWM before to install the ROM, it rebooted on its own before I could install Gapps. Will 4EXT let me do each install right after each other or do I have to return to 4EXT for each separate install?
regards,
motionmonk
Nospin said:
Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).
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Hi blk_jack,
I went back to the Mimicry page and re-read the FAQ section.
I think what I got out of it the first time was that if the ROM flash failed, it could be a corrupt ROM image. I will definitely use 4EXT to repartition before I try again with a ROM flash.
I guess I am still getting used to the terms for everything; can 4EXT do the nandroid backup? or is there a better process for setting that up?
thank you!
motionmonk
blk_jack said:
Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Yes, you should be able to flash the rom and then GApps without rebooting. Give me a few and I will send you a PM with a few links....
Shot you a PM.
Thanks! I'll check it out :good:
Nospin said:
Shot you a PM.
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Update-not working
Ok...
I re-flashed back to stock Froyo, and did a permanent root.
Installed 4ext Recovery (instead of Clockwork), and got a copy of SuperwipeG2+ext4;
I copied new checksum'd copies of Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM and GApps to my sdcard.
Booted into 4ext Recovery and installed from .zip the SuperwipeG2+ext4 file.
System, data and cache are all converted to ext4 partitions.
Wiped the system and data and cache partitions.
Installed from inside Recovery the Mimicry ROM and then the GApps archives.
No errors reported.
Upon reboot, I still get the white HTC screen. UGH.
I've left it on in that state for 30 mins... I had to yank the battery after that in shame...
I have tried to make sure that I read up on background steps, and I feel I do understand the overall process, but something is still getting in the way. I am doing this as I mentioned in an earlier post on a factory reset G2 with a clean erased SD card (has the stock Froyo image, Andromadus Mimicry ROM and GApps only). There is no SIM card installed either, wifi is off (to avoid OTA upgrade requests).
Are there other things I can try, or info I can supply that would help? I think I'm so close to getting this done... I must be overlooking something obvious.
I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Hi amogil,
Just to be sure I understand, are you saying you are swapping between Andromadus and CM9 beta on your phone?
Did you flash CM9 first? and then Andromadus?
or just carrying the CM9 beta image and running Andromadus?
Sorry, I'm all sorts of confused here lol
thanks
amogil said:
I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....
It's definitely a thought, and I believe that's what amogil is telling me too...
Ya, I can try a different ROM and report back.
I guess I should go back to stock Froyo and then start from CM7.2, and if that boots, try Mimicry again?
-from the Andromadus FAQ, it says it if a different ROM is based on ICS9, you shouldn't have to wipe. But with CM7, I'd have to wipe the Dalvik cache, yes?
-since CM7 is obviously not based on ICS9, would being able to launch into that show some details I can't see at present? Just was curious.
Or, do you think it better to go stock Froyo and then the older Mimicry ROM?
Either way, I'll make sure that I use the Superwipe to set things to ext4 first.
thanks guys for the ideas,
motionmonk
Nospin said:
Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....
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The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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SUCCESS!
Woohoo!
It works!
Since I had an ICS9 ROM already in place and was planning to wipe back to stock anyways, I tried flashing the older Andromadus 1.1.0 ROM.
What a surprise and treat to see the startup animation!
After poking around for an hour inside it, I then tried Recovery to reflash to the newest 1.1.2 ROM.
YAY! It works!
OMG, having a new ROM is like having a new phone-- there are so many improvements to the UI and it's quick and speedy versus GB. Dang, I'm happy now :victory:
Observations:
1. I did notice that inside Recovery, my touchscreen was barely functional when I tried to update from 1.1.0 up to 1.1.2-- I had to use the Volume +/- and the d-pad button to make selections. After the flash, the touchscreen is as responsive as ever.
2. it's got me thinking, that there must be a setting that is expected in the v1.1.2 ROM that the v1.1.0 ROM installed. Or could something else be the issue? I mean absolutely no disrespect to the developers... but on the technical side, I'm just curious what possibilities exist that might lead to this situation.
3. backup question... when I use MyBackup Pro, I know I can make an archive of the apps I've installed, and an archive of the data (documents, music, settings). Is a nandroid backup different from that? when I see the backup/restore options inside of 4ext Recovery, what are those doing that's different from what I get from MyBackup Pro?
thanks for all the help and encouragement. I have a new ROM installed! :good:
strawmetal said:
The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Oooh, a possibility. We will see if he can boot a different rom.
Whenever you switch roms (even if they are using the same Android version as a base) I suggest a full wipe. (Wipe all user data + Dalvik Cache + Cache, or just flash the superwipe zip). When upgrading the rom you are currently on (say upgrading CM Nightlies or going from Mimicry 1.1.1 to 1.1.2) you only need to really wipe cache and dalvik cache. Unless the dev states otherwise of course.
Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
strawmetal said:
The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Thank You All!
A big shout out to:
Nospin
blk_jack
amogil
strawmetal
for taking the time out to help a total n00b stumble through his first ROM flash.
I really appreciate the points you guys made, and the help provided.
Thank you!
I hope that one day I can help someone else out with a problem and pass the kindness forward.
Yay! I have a working ROM!
motionmonk
motionmonk said:
Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
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The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.
WOW. i just realized there is SO MUCH I need to catch up on!
I'll have to look up some of these guides later today... but the RUU is the ROM upgrade, right?
Did you ever find a reason why you got the false S-OFF flag? It's clear that the way I was looking at the failed fre3vo exploit as proof of S-OFF isn't always going to be true... but how would you separate a false S-OFF flag from lets say a wrong hboot image?
BTW, your PDF on downgrading and rooting the G2 was a godsend. Very very helpful and clear.
One of the reasons why I took so long to try rooting was that I was confused by the different methods and the replies of X not working, Y is a better way... going through your guide and the info here on xda cleared alot of things up. :good:
strawmetal said:
The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.
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