[Q] Which CWM version? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Happy new year all!
Been running rooted stock for a few months now, pretty happy with it despite rosie restarts so I might take the plunge and install virtuous sense 2.0.0.
When I rooted my phone, I used rom manager to install clockworkmod recovery, however I used the latest version at that time which was 5.0.2.7.
My question is, I read that version 5 can be a bit flakey with recoveries, should I install CWM 3.0.2.4 instead as it appears to be the recommended one?
If yes, how does it work with installing another recovery, will it overwrite 5.0.2.7 or will it leave me with two recoveries?

Nothing wrong with 5.0.2.7
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Good stuff, just wanted to check that.

Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.

Stargazer418 said:
Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.
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Much easier to use, much more options (like recover deleted files).

You could install ROM Manager from Android Market and then install new version from this SW.

Stargazer418 said:
Instead of ClockworkMod, I would recommend 4EXT Recovery. It has a touch-based interface, unlike CWM. It also has better support for different filesystems in backups.
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I've been hearing a lot about 4EXT. What would be the best way of removing CWM and installing this?

Myrmidon83 said:
I've been hearing a lot about 4EXT. What would be the best way of removing CWM and installing this?
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Go to 4ext.net and install the free 4EXT Recovery Updater application to your phone. Choose the topmost option, make sure you're in the Touch tab, then tap the newest version to download and install it. It will automatically replace CWM, and it is fully supported in ROM Manager.

I'll throw in for 4EXT as well. Highly recommended.

Stargazer418 said:
Go to 4ext.net and install the free 4EXT Recovery Updater application to your phone. Choose the topmost option, make sure you're in the Touch tab, then tap the newest version to download and install it. It will automatically replace CWM, and it is fully supported in ROM Manager.
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Ah it overwrites CWM, ok, I might try it out then.

downloading 4ext now, overwriting cwm 5.0.2.0 - will report back

How did it go?

I found that I couldn't do backups with rom manager with 4ext installed.

arkoze said:
downloading 4ext now, overwriting cwm 5.0.2.0 - will report back
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Hi, any update? I am also on CWM 5.0.2.0 and think to switch to 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.4 RC 1.

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Recovery for slcd HTC desire

I looked for everywhere bit couldn't find any link to clockwork recovery 3.0(ext4 partitions) or ny other that I can use with unrevocked..to make or erase ext4 partitions
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Using a recovery to partition ext will only partition ext2/3 at best. To get 4 you can run some scripts or something that will upgrade the ext partition, or you can format it using something like Gparted or Easus.
I definitely recommend doing any partitioning with Gparted, cos I'm running Clockworkmod 3.0 on an SLCD desire (installed during rooting with Unrevoked) and the partitioning option never works. Neither does ROM Manager, whereas Gparted has never failed me once.
Keep ROM manager on your phone though, cos sometimes, 3.0 cant flash a zip cos of some edify script issue, so if this ever happens, go into ROM manager and tell it to flash clockworkmod, then ask it to boot into recovery. It will boot you into clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 as a one off, and flashing these zips in 2.5.0.7 always works.
After you flash the zip and reboot back to android, next time you try to use clockworkmod you'll be back to 3.0.
Here's the thread where you can get Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839640
Regards,
wildcardspv
wildcardspv said:
I definitely recommend doing any partitioning with Gparted, cos I'm running Clockworkmod 3.0 on an SLCD desire (installed during rooting with Unrevoked) and the partitioning option never works. Neither does ROM Manager, whereas Gparted has never failed me once.
Keep ROM manager on your phone though, cos sometimes, 3.0 cant flash a zip cos of some edify script issue, so if this ever happens, go into ROM manager and tell it to flash clockworkmod, then ask it to boot into recovery. It will boot you into clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 as a one off, and flashing these zips in 2.5.0.7 always works.
After you flash the zip and reboot back to android, next time you try to use clockworkmod you'll be back to 3.0.
Here's the thread where you can get Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839640
Regards,
wildcardspv
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Does wiping SD ext4 partition works with clockwork recovery 3.0...coz that the only reason I need it for for partition I'm using g parted 2..n g parted works great..thx for the link
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Hmmmm, sorry man, I've only ever used an ext3 partition so I can't say for sure. I does wipe ext3 though.
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wildcardspv said:
I definitely recommend doing any partitioning with Gparted, cos I'm running Clockworkmod 3.0 on an SLCD desire (installed during rooting with Unrevoked) and the partitioning option never works. Neither does ROM Manager, whereas Gparted has never failed me once.
Keep ROM manager on your phone though, cos sometimes, 3.0 cant flash a zip cos of some edify script issue, so if this ever happens, go into ROM manager and tell it to flash clockworkmod, then ask it to boot into recovery. It will boot you into clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 as a one off, and flashing these zips in 2.5.0.7 always works.
After you flash the zip and reboot back to android, next time you try to use clockworkmod you'll be back to 3.0.
Here's the thread where you can get Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839640
Regards,
wildcardspv
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You should avoid using Rom Manager. It doesn't work properly and causes more problems than what it solves.
In my opinion, use CWM 2.5.0.7 because it works and all scripts work with it. Until there is an official release for 3.0, it won't work properly.
GoogleJelly said:
You should avoid using Rom Manager. It doesn't work properly and causes more problems than what it solves.
In my opinion, use CWM 2.5.0.7 because it works and all scripts work with it. Until there is an official release for 3.0, it won't work properly.
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This would be the ideal option, but I found that when using 2.5.0.7 creating backups failed, which is a pretty important feature!!
That's the only reason why I changed to 3.0.0.5.
Have you tried rebooting?

[Q] Why can't I flash 'Z' ROMS?

I have looked across this forum and two other forums and have not found an answer which will satisfy me.
I have successfully rooted and flashed different ROMs many times, so the whole process is not anything I don't understand.
I can successfully flash any of the Cyanogens, Incredibly Re-engineered, Redemption, and SkyRaider ROMs.
I CAN NOT flash but ONE ROM with 'Z' in the title and that is Incredibly Re-engineered Z. Every other ROM such as Super Z, Warm Z 2.2, IncDoes, Uber Z
My DInc will just sit at the HTC Incredible white screen when I reboot after a successful load via clockworkmod.
I have left it sitting for 30 minutes plus while sitting at work. Nothing. Only choice I have is to restore from backup to a working ROM.
Any suggestions?
The ROM's you quoted are mostly using ClockWorkMod Recovery version 3 for the install. If you are on CWM version 2 the result you are getting is kind of expected. The v3 scripts are not compatible with v2 but v2 does not know any better so tries to install it.
Go into ROM Manager and see what recovery you are on and use RM to install CWM v 3.0.0.7
I would then try installing the ROM with RM selecting the wipe option
SIDE NOTE: If you are on CWM v3 and you try to install a v2 based ROM CWM will tell you that it is outdated
That is what I saw on other sites, but I have the latest version of clockworkmod v3.0.0.8 and have flashed the ROMs successfully with it, but they just wont go past the HTC Incredible white screen. The ones that gave me script errors, I have flashed down to clockworkmod v2.5.1.7 or whichever i seen in the OP of that ROM
I just do not understand it. =( ... I dont wanna be limited
Sounds like it could be related to you not having a Samsung Fascinate. I'd try to get a Samsung Fascinate and then you might have better luck.
Get back to work.
JWhetstone02 said:
That is what I saw on other sites, but I have the latest version of clockworkmod v3.0.0.8 and have flashed the ROMs successfully with it, but they just wont go past the HTC Incredible white screen. The ones that gave me script errors, I have flashed down to clockworkmod v2.5.1.7 or whichever i seen in the OP of that ROM
I just do not understand it. =( ... I dont wanna be limited
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You probably did not catch my recommendation to use 3.0.0.7. 3.0.0.8 has known problems with not clearing everything.
In ROM Manager at the bottom install CWM 3.0.0.7 and try flashing the ROM from the SD Card with ROM Manager and select the wipe option.
NilsP said:
You probably did not catch my recommendation to use 3.0.0.7. 3.0.0.8 has known problems with not clearing everything.
In ROM Manager at the bottom install CWM 3.0.0.7 and try flashing the ROM from the SD Card with ROM Manager and select the wipe option.
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I might have to try this too as I'm having troubles installing roms and sticking in boot loop ..
If I change to CWM 3.0.0.7 from my current 3.0.0.8, will my previous backups on 3.0.0.8 still be useable through 3.0.0.7?
Thanks!
KB3MMX said:
I might have to try this too as I'm having troubles installing roms and sticking in boot loop ..
If I change to CWM 3.0.0.7 from my current 3.0.0.8, will my previous backups on 3.0.0.8 still be useable through 3.0.0.7?
Thanks!
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Yes your backups will work
I will give that a try. I currently have only two flashable files for clockworkmod ... v3.0.0.8 and v2.5.1.2
I'll try and find the previous versions of clockworkmod, nandroid backup my working ROM, wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik and try this one more again.
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I will give that a try. I currently have only two flashable files for clockworkmod ... v3.0.0.8 and v2.5.1.2
I'll try and find the previous versions of clockworkmod, nandroid backup my working ROM, wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik and try this one more again.
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Flash this zip before you flash the Rom this is for CWM 3.X.X.X it will wipe everything I have one for older clockworks to just let me know
http://db.tt/s1VTbac
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Keyboards said:
Yes your backups will work
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Excellent, I'll change to CWM 3.0.0.7 with ROM manager then
newtoroot said:
Flash this zip before you flash the Rom this is for CWM 3.X.X.X it will wipe everything I have one for older clockworks to just let me know
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Thanks. I am up and running now. WarmZ twoPOINTtwo nightlies 03/31 =D
Very smoooth

[Q] Flashing custom Roms please help.

After you root and install ROM manager, how do you flash the ROMS. i mean i know the steps but i must be doing something wrong. Here is what I'm doing.
i have a mesmerize by the way.
1. Open Rom Manager
2. Install ROM from SD Card
Do i need to Flash ClockworkMod Recovery first?
Any help would be very greatly appreciated ...i might even name my first born after you.
and if you can tell be where i can get custom battery, and Wifi ROMS for the mesmerize i may even name my second after you also.
Yes, you will need a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM. CWM or Amon_Ra flashed through Rom Manager will do the trick. Once you have the recovery sorted you can/should do a backup of your current setup. Again, this can be done from Rom Manager.
Now you can move on to flashing a custom ROM.
I'm having a problem getting the Roms installed, cwm says something about edifying. i have cwm 3.0.0.8. i went back and downgraded my ROM manager to 2.5.0.7 but my cwm is still 3.0.0.8.
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I'm having a problem getting the Roms installed, cwm says something about edifying. i have cwm 3.0.0.8. i went back and downgraded my ROM manager to 2.5.0.7 but my cwm is still 3.0.0.8.
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There is a section in Rom Manager with older versions of CWM. It's that you want, not an older version of RM.
it would probably be easier to boot into recovery and install your custom rom from there. The method to get into recovery is different for each phone though.
Remember to wipe before installing a custom rom tho.
DirkGently1 said:
There is a section in Rom Manager with older versions of CWM. It's that you want, not an older version of RM.
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I've looked for the older versions of CWM in RM but cant seem to find them. What are they under? Sorry if I'm being a bother.

Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?

Best ClockWork Rom Manager Version For Desire?
okay i used the latest original untouched once yesterday installed perfectly, however after doing a backup it crashed on htc start up loop. i opened recovery and re flashed my backup all worked okay but am now wondering what if something happens when installing a custom rom. what is the best version to use.
thanks
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
xybadog said:
Easiest, and safest way to flash is via your recovery from boot (ClockworkMod/AmonRa etc). ROM Manager itself has seen many issues recently and many people advise to stay clear of it until it's totally stable.
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thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
kuljit55 said:
thanks fot the info, shall i uninstall my rom manager than or shall i leave it and just use it from hboot. if i install it will it still be in my recovery in hboot also am confused is clockwork and tom manager not the same thing
thanks
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ROM Manager is made by ClockworkMod devs. It's an application, a standalone app whereas ClockworkMod is a recovery and this is what you would use to flash the ROM. If you have ClockworkMod as your recovery you flash a new ROM using this procedure:
Do this first to backup your existing ROM in case anything goes wrong.
Then do this to flash your new recovery.
Hopefully everything should go okay.
EDIT: You can leave ROM Manager where it is, it won't affect anything you do in the above procedures and you may find that your new ROM doesn't package it anyway so you won't have it anyway.
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
AssassinSvK said:
for me 3.0.0.5 was the best for desire
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I've got 4.2.0.2 but I can't comment because I've not used it yet but I know I successfully partitioned my SD to ext3 using the version you mention (only because I couldn't get gparted to work).

Rom Manager doesn't see CWM is installed?

Rom Manager doesn't seem to know that I've got CWM installed. When I rooted and installed CWM I didn't do it through Rom Manager originally. Now CWM won't let me use it to manage my backups and keeps asking me if I want to install CWM? I've got Google Wallet installed so I'm a little nervous flashing things needlessly.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
edit: CWM v5.5.0.4
do you try "wipe cache" and "advanced->wipe dalvik cache?"
Thanks, I just tried, it took quite a while to clear the cache. When I booted up it went through a whole Optimizing Apps process, I'm not sure if that was due to wiping the dalvik cache? But it still didn't fix the Rom Manager issue.
Its probably not yet compatible if you have the touch version of cwm installed, so it wants to flash the standard one. Or you could always just let rom manager just reflash cwm overtop and then you may be good to go.
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Rom Manager doesn't seem to know that I've got CWM installed. When I rooted and installed CWM I didn't do it through Rom Manager originally. Now CWM won't let me use it to manage my backups and keeps asking me if I want to install CWM? I've got Google Wallet installed so I'm a little nervous flashing things needlessly.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Maybe it can't detect it? I know we had to set which CWM version we had installed on the SGS.
Maybe try to run the install?
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I don't have the touch version installed (doesn't seem to be the touch version anyway). I should have said this in the first post but it CWM v5.5.0.4.
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Maybe it can't detect it? I know we had to set which CWM version we had installed on the SGS.
Maybe try to run the install?
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Flashing CWM over CWM shouldn't wipe my phone right? It's only the stock bootloader that requires a full wipe?
I installed ROM manager and then CWM via ROM manager last night and its CWM v5.5.0.2 which ROM manager thinks is the latest: perhaps it can't deal with 5.5.0.4 yet...
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I installed ROM manager and then CWM via ROM manager last night and its CWM v5.5.0.2 which ROM manager thinks is the latest: perhaps it can't deal with 5.5.0.4 yet...
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ah, that would probably do it...guess i'll just wait it out a little longer, thanks
I have the exact same issue as this Rom Manager refuses to see I have CWM installed so just keeps telling me I need to install it it also can't download and flash its own version and just freezes after download
So any updates on this or more users experiencing it ?
I think I've found the solution. In ROM Manager tap the menu button at the top and then tap Manual Flash Override. Next it'll ask you if you've flashed CWM manually so tap OK because that's what we've done. Next pick which GN you have and then choose CWM 3.x+. There you have it, it should work now.
Don't use ROM Manager - problem solved!!
Seriously, though, it's a TERRIBLE piece of software
I'm fairly new to using it but it seems decent, why is it so terrible? I had an eris before this and did everything manually through recovery, this seems like it's a lot better than that.
It's just more trouble than it's worth. Why not just manually flash CWM using fastboot and get your head around that as opposed to an app which can - frankly - break things?
Flashing it via fastboot is what causes the above issue. Since you flash it manually rom manager can't see it, that's why I posted the above steps to kind of "force" rom manager to see the manually installed version.
But if you're not using ROM Manager then what's the issue? Copy ROM to SD card, reboot to recovery, flash ROM...where is ROM Manager needed in that equation?
If you're not using it then there is no issue, but this thread isn't about using it or not, it's about getting it to work with the galaxy nexus when you manually flash CWM.
I like it for the backup and restore feature and being able to change the names used to backup

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