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Optical Trackball not working in recovery and stuck in the HTC boot logo

I don't know what to do because my device is currently not booting. The device is stuck at the HTC logo for a very long time (both when booting normaly or going in to revovery). The device finaly is finished booting in like 10 min. , but when it is finnished booting the touch on the screen doesn't work, it keeps a black background and it says no service. In revovery on the otherhand the optical trackball doesn't work anymore, the hardware button does tho because the first option "Reboot system now" does work.
What should I Do???

Milioo said:
I don't know what to do because my device is currently not booting. The device is stuck at the HTC logo for a very long time (both when booting normaly or going in to revovery). The device finaly is finished booting in like 10 min. , but when it is finnished booting the touch on the screen doesn't work, it keeps a black background and it says no service. In revovery on the otherhand the optical trackball doesn't work anymore, the hardware button does tho because the first option "Reboot system now" does work.
What should I Do???
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Have you tried using the volume up / down buttons for moving around the menus and power button for select in recovery?

sbdags said:
Have you tried using the volume up / down buttons for moving around the menus and power button for select in recovery?
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The volume up/down buttons dont work in recovery

Now its just stuck in a bootloop .
And there is no way of wiping the device, because the trackball isn't working.
hep would be greatly appreciated

The first thing I would try is to remove the SD card and see if your phone boots.
If that doesn't work. Have you tried putting fake flash on your SD and booting into recovery on that to test your trackpad?
Why has it started playing up in the first place? Did you have a bad flash? A wee bit of the history of your device might help to find out what's going on.

socktug said:
The first thing I would try is to remove the SD card and see if your phone boots.
If that doesn't work. Have you tried putting fake flash on your SD and booting into recovery on that to test your trackpad?
Why has it started playing up in the first place? Did you have a bad flash? A wee bit of the history of your device might help to find out what's going on.
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the trackball isn't working in the fakeflash. The whole problem didn't happen after a bad flash, but it just went in a bootloop when i tried to put it on this morning. I was running Defrost 1.4

You don't need trackball in the fakeflash. You navigate there using volume up and down. It should work. Try .

How about resetting it by doing the following.
Switch it off, or remove battery > Hold volume down and power button > wait a few seconds > use volume to go to clear storage > power button to select. This doesn't involve going into recovery so your buttons might work there.

Can't you get into the bootloader mode with vol. down + power and wipe it there?
Edit: Few secs too late heh

Sareas said:
You don't need trackball in the fakeflash. You navigate there using volume up and down. It should work. Try .
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You need the trackpad to select the option after choosing it with volume up/down.

socktug said:
How about resetting it by doing the following.
Switch it off, or remove battery > Hold volume down and power button > wait a few seconds > use volume to go to clear storage > power button to select. This doesn't involve going into recovery so your buttons might work there.
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No, it says clear...... and then it just restarts the bootloop

The fake-flash worked!!!!!!!
I deleted everthing there but now, when I boot up the device it boot up straight into fastboot

You could try now using an ruu to flash. Or try getting into recovery and see if you can use the buttons now.

I'll try a ruu, but the recovery still wont work

socktug said:
You could try now using an ruu to flash. Or try getting into recovery and see if you can use the buttons now.
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The Ruu doesn't boot past the quietly brilliant signiture.

Now the official RUU is doing a bootloop...

Warning: you triple posted

dario3040 said:
Warning: you triple posted
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Not the greatest most useful first post I've seen.

Im having the same issue. Phone locked up pulled the battery and phone stuck on HTC boot logo. Can get into recovery but no buttons are working so i cant recover. That actually happened before but i could get it sorted by flashing using rom manager as i could boot the rom.... Where can you get fake flash?

theloother said:
Im having the same issue. Phone locked up pulled the battery and phone stuck on HTC boot logo. Can get into recovery but no buttons are working so i cant recover. That actually happened before but i could get it sorted by flashing using rom manager as i could boot the rom.... Where can you get fake flash?
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http://www.mediafire.com/?i2cy2p04tjbizn0
version I currently have, maybe not the newest (0.14), but works just fine.

Solution: Stuck on HTC screen before recovery mode when trying to root using guide

I have tried everywhere to find a solution to this problem. Google searched many hours revealved that there are quite a handful of people that has the same problem and no one was able to give them any strong help. People were told to run RUU rom, unbrick the usb or were just told their device is bricked.
I really want t rooted device so I tried and searched many hours and with trial and error, I rooted my device.
This short guide is meant for people that has the exact same problem.
Hope it will help at least one person!
The problem was the phone getting stuck at the HTC logo before when trying to get to the screen with a phone and a warning triangle( i.e just before recovery mode) on step 7 of the "Guide to root using Windows, MAC OS X and Linux" in the "[TUT]Complete upgrading guide(root, unroot, flashing ROM & updates) " guide.
Just to make sure you guys had the exact same problem I did, I originally had a bootloader 0.75 before doing any of the steps and after running step 1 in the r5 root files, it went to version 0.8.00
Steps:
1. Go find the guide posted by Paul. Can't post outside link here. Just google it.
2. Download the files for bootloader 0.8.00 which should be the r6 root files.
3. Now extract to your C drive on your pc like you did for the r5 root files. then with your desire on the fastloader screen, connect to pc via usb and in the r6 root files, run the step 1.
4. Now attempt to go to the screen with a phone and a warning triangle which you previously couldn't. you need to get to this screen to run your step 2 on the r5 root files.
You should now be at the recovery screen!!! YAAAA!!
Now just follow the rest of "[TUT]Complete upgrading guide(root, unroot, flashing ROM & updates) " guide.
Hope it helps!! Any questions I would help out if I can!

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hi mate,
I have exactly your problem: can't acces recovery - htc logo screen appear
I tried everything and didn't work.
I tried as you said with Paul R6 first step and when I want to get into recovery the logo screen just appear
just can't find a solution to bring it back.............

Not sure how it applies to this, but I had the same problem. But I cleared the dalvik cache and the user data area using the recovery menu. Then it booted fine into my custom ROM.

laupc said:
hi mate,
I have exactly your problem: can't acces recovery - htc logo screen appear
I tried everything and didn't work.
I tried as you said with Paul R6 first step and when I want to get into recovery the logo screen just appear
just can't find a solution to bring it back.............
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Which bootloader version you on now?
I am still only an noob in rooting but it worked for me... let me think what else I did...
Another question, are you on Orange as well? Starting to wonder if it's an Orange thing. Other people's root is pretty straight forward
Don't worry too much if it doesnt work out. The last resort is to do an RUU on the phone, I think. I don't think it's possible to brick an android phone.

Singh400 said:
Not sure how it applies to this, but I had the same problem. But I cleared the dalvik cache and the user data area using the recovery menu. Then it booted fine into my custom ROM.
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The problem was that we couldn't even get into the recovery menu.

Not a problem with Orange users as mine was straight forward. Have you's tried this? Easier method of rooting.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/

Delete please.

does it still do the same if you try booting without your SD card in your phone?

thefunkygibbon said:
does it still do the same if you try booting without your SD card in your phone?
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yes, the same no metter if with sdcard or not

dnlgee said:
Not a problem with Orange users as mine was straight forward. Have you's tried this? Easier method of rooting.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
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I tried, but is say waiting for phone..
I have only fastboot acces not the adb - this is the big problem (I can't activate usb debugging because the os didn't load - never past over htc logo screen)

airheli1201 said:
Which bootloader version you on now?
I am still only an noob in rooting but it worked for me... let me think what else I did...
Another question, are you on Orange as well? Starting to wonder if it's an Orange thing. Other people's root is pretty straight forward
Don't worry too much if it doesnt work out. The last resort is to do an RUU on the phone, I think. I don't think it's possible to brick an android phone.
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hboot 0.80.. and it is orange branded
I did the RUU but didn't help me, never past the htc logo screen and never load the recovery - just got that screen

laupc said:
hboot 0.80.. and it is orange branded
I did the RUU but didn't help me, never past the htc logo screen and never load the recovery - just got that screen
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If you are orange and now have hboot 0.8 then you must have the exact same condition I had.
Try connecting your phone to the pc again on the fastboot screen and try to run the "step1-windows" in the r6-desire-root-alt folder again.
Keep on trying!! Dont give up!!

airheli1201 said:
If you are orange and now have hboot 0.8 then you must have the exact same condition I had.
Try connecting your phone to the pc again on the fastboot screen and try to run the "step1-windows" in the r6-desire-root-alt folder again.
Keep on trying!! Dont give up!!
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i made the step 1 and everything was ok, no error, but still no recovery and didn't start the os, just bootloop on htc logo screen - what could it be??

# Navigate to the 'BOOTLOADER' and then 'RECOVERY' option on the menu, using the volume buttons to move and the power button to select.
# When a black screen appears with a red triangle, press and hold 'Volume Up' then tap 'Power'.
# Your device should now be at the 'recovery' screen. Select the 'wipe data/factory reset' option, then select the option to 'Apply sdcard:update.zip'. This will take a little while, so go make a nice cup of tea. When the flash has finished, reboot, and you are DONE! smile.gif

lollylost100 said:
# Navigate to the 'BOOTLOADER' and then 'RECOVERY' option on the menu, using the volume buttons to move and the power button to select.
# When a black screen appears with a red triangle, press and hold 'Volume Up' then tap 'Power'.
# Your device should now be at the 'recovery' screen. Select the 'wipe data/factory reset' option, then select the option to 'Apply sdcard:update.zip'. This will take a little while, so go make a nice cup of tea. When the flash has finished, reboot, and you are DONE! smile.gif
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thanks mate, I know these steps, the problem is that when I press the power button (within the hboot menu on the line of recovery) didn't appear the black screen with exclamation mark, I just got in to the htc logo boot screen, nothing else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flash Stock RUU and start again.

laupc said:
thanks mate, I know these steps, the problem is that when I press the power button (within the hboot menu on the line of recovery) didn't appear the black screen with exclamation mark, I just got in to the htc logo boot screen, nothing else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You tried it without the sd card before?
If it still doesnt work, like lollylost100 says, flash RUU while it's on the fast load screen.

Bootloop desire CM 6.1 RC

Hye guys,
When i wiped my rom, backuped my current and installed the new CM 6.1 RC, i am stuck at boot-loop.
The cm mod logo just reappears, and nothing further happens.
When i press power and volume down, and choose recovery, i just get this exclamation mark with a triangle around the mark over a desire.
Anyone got a suggestion to what i can do? the led seems to work fine.
Any help would be appriciated.
cheers

I have the same. Tried loading 6.0.2 first which works well but not getting past boot on 6.1
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I had the same problem with this mod.
I have not found a solution - my phone being sent off for repair...

gubbii said:
When i press power and volume down, and choose recovery, i just get this exclamation mark with a triangle around the mark over a desire.
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Well that is the standard htc recovery. That is the recovery installed to your phone if you didn't install another one. So if you rooted usings pauls method, you have probably been using fake flash to access recovery. So do the following to enter your fake flash recovery:
1. when on the triangle screen hold "volume up" and press "power button"
2. use volume and power button to select "flash update.zip"
3. now clockwork mod(your normal recovery) should appear, and you can just restore your backup.
Now lets hope you didn't install it in the order you mentioned:
When i wiped my rom, backuped my current and installed the new CM 6.1 RC
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This way your backup will contain a couple of empty partitions.. because you would have wiped it first. I hope you were not that stupid
And a note: please don't mess with things you clearly don't have a clue about. You clearly do not know, what you are doing to your phone and are just pushing buttons according to some guide.
I had the same problem with this mod.
I have not found a solution - my phone being sent off for repair...
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So you wan't HTC to take care of a problem you created by hacking your phone? Take some responsibility and if you dont know how to install roms and how they work. Just don't.(note to OP above also applies to you)
And finally sorry for being a little rough on you guys but seriously such problems could be easily solved by the individual just by reading up on the subject of rooting as the above info should be common knowledge.

[Q] Make ClockwordMod complete backup?

Hi,
I recently rooted my phone through VISIONary+ r14 and today downloaded ROM Manager. I flashed ClockworkMod Recovery, but I can't back up my current ROM (stock/branded). I want to make a complete 100% backup of my current phone to be able to restore later if I need to.
However, I don't know how to do it. There is a 'Backup current ROM' option on ROM Manager, but whenever I do it my phone restarts showing the black screen with the phone and the red Caution exclamation mark + triangle, so I have to hold Volume Up and the Power button to restart my phone.
What do I do?
Also, it may be worth mentioning my Desire HD is a Vodafone Australia branded phone which hasn't been updated at all.

Well, the triangle image thingy means you dont have recovery flashed...
So, you have to choose 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' first. - That wil download a file from the internet and install it for you, so make sure you have internet connection
That will flash/install a recovery for you, in which you can create a backup.
Oh and i think you need to S-OFF your phone before installing recovery (im not sure about that but thats what i've heard)
click here for S-OFF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 --the last process says that after S-OFF you can install CWM recovery

noodlesfordaddy said:
I flashed ClockworkMod Recovery,
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Can you confirm if you did this separately to ROM Manager or as per above, used the Flash Recovery option in ROM Manager?
Have you confirmed you do have root?
If you reboot into recovery do you get to the clockworkmod recovery screen? What version is it?
If root can't be confirmed, re-do the visionary method. If root is confirmed but can't get to CWM-R do as per above and flash recovery from RM console.

Yes, I can confirm it is rooted.
I just ENG S-OFFed, so I'm going to try flashing recovery once again, although I'm still pretty sure it worked before that since Clockworkmod says "Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.6, Latest Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.2.6"
Will I do damage flashing it again?
EDIT: I pressed Flash ClockworkMod Recovery again and it waited for a little and then said that it was successful.
EDIT 2: Attempting another backup... And it's working!

No, you won't damage the it.
As I fly through different ROM's and do lot's of restores and backups I often have times where I need to reflash recovery.

look uot the link in my signature and try to do what it explanes......
Do all fases of rooting and you will have a perfectly rooted phone.
Also follow suggestions of CodeNameUnknown1.
Try man....Try

noodlesfordaddy said:
EDIT: I pressed Flash ClockworkMod Recovery again and it waited for a little and then said that it was successful.
EDIT 2: Attempting another backup... And it's working!
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Great news!! Glad you got it sorted so far.

So, I have a problem.
I pressed the Backup option in ROM Manager, and the phone restarted, I'm now in Recovery mode... But I have a very strange problem. I can't make any selections.
I can scroll through the menu options fine, but can't select anything. If I press the power/lock button, the menu goes away and the clockworkmod logo in the middle just brightens up. If I press the home or menu buttons, the same thing happens, and if I press them again the menu just reappears. The return and search buttons do nothing except vibrate. What the hell?

That's an odd one.
Can you boot into recovery by turning phone off then holding vol- press power button and go to recovery from there? Does this do the same thing?
If same then I would uninstall ROM Manager and flash the recovery again via fastboot (in which case you can download the 3.0.2.8 version (page 3 ish of the development forum). Then try again.
Then re-install ROM Manager (which will show wrong version but ignore it).

At the moment I'm having trouble trying to turn off the phone at all :S looks like I'm actually going to have to open this horrible battery cover.
EDIT: After a battery pull I tried holding the Vol+ button and power button but it has just booted normally.
I can't actually try the vol- and power because my volume down button simply doesn't work...
EDIT 2: Uninstalled ROM Manager, reinstalled, booted into Recovery Mode, now it's backing up right next to me! Yay!
So I assume that, once it's done, I just take one big file it makes and put it on my laptop or something?
EDIT 3: Okay, one more step and I should be completely rooted with no hassles.
Will this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537) work for a branded phone? It says it requires a stock kernel. My phone meets all other requirements, but is the kernel of a Vodafone AU branded Desire HD 'stock' enough to work with this S-OFF tool? I would attempt it but I'm a little worried I might screw something up.

noodlesfordaddy said:
EDIT: After a battery pull I tried holding the Vol+ button and power button but it has just booted normally.
I can't actually try the vol- and power because my volume down button simply doesn't work...
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Is this still an issue? If so you really need to get that fixed!!
noodlesfordaddy said:
EDIT 2: Uninstalled ROM Manager, reinstalled, booted into Recovery Mode, now it's backing up right next to me! Yay!
So I assume that, once it's done, I just take one big file it makes and put it on my laptop or something?
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Yep.
noodlesfordaddy said:
EDIT 3: Okay, one more step and I should be completely rooted with no hassles.
Will this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537) work for a branded phone? It says it requires a stock kernel. My phone meets all other requirements, but is the kernel of a Vodafone AU branded Desire HD 'stock' enough to work with this S-OFF tool? I would attempt it but I'm a little worried I might screw something up.
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You are good to go.

Help Please, Phone stuck on Red M Logo.

I have to firstly say I am a complete noob, infact, the Defy is my first smartphone.
So far i have......
Rooted Phone
Performed a nandroid backup
Installed 2nd init
Installed CM7
Everything was going so well until i noticed there were no google apps. I installed gapps zip file after re installing recover (to install the zip file from boot menu). Ever since then, my phone wont make it past the red Motorola logo. I cant even get back into the boot menu?
Please Help

If you have 2nd Init installed , press Vol Down whenthe blue LED blinks during startup.
If that fails, hold the Vol Down button and then power on your cell, you'll enter default recovery. Clear cache/data and start again.
Also, if you are using CM7 RC1 or above, there should be no need to install gapps.zip separately.

Thanks for the reply mate.
Phone wont get to blue light before freeze. RE the vol down power on menu, all i get is an android dude with a triangle with an Exclamation point in it?

sorry i should have written this in my first reply, when you see the exclamation point, press Vol Up + vol down TOGETHER, and you'll see the recovery menu.

JimmyMagic said:
Thanks for the reply mate.
Phone wont get to blue light before freeze. RE the vol down power on menu, all i get is an android dude with a triangle with an Exclamation point in it?
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at this point press vol up and down at the same time..and wipe

The only options i get on there are.....
Reboot system now
Apply sdcard:update.zip
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition.
Tried them all and no luck

try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147967
in the 4th post, you can try that and flash it again

Never ending problems mate. Cant get RSD lite to work.
Keep getting.....
"failed flashing process. Failed flashing process. unable to retrieve initialization values from INI file"
Running as administrator and have tried 2 different SFB files.
Im giving up all hope, been reading forums all day and my eyes are starting to hurt.

bikerabhinav said:
If you have 2nd Init installed , press Vol Down whenthe blue LED blinks during startup.
If that fails, hold the Vol Down button and then power on your cell, you'll enter default recovery. Clear cache/data and start again.
Also, if you are using CM7 RC1 or above, there should be no need to install gapps.zip separately.
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I installed CM7 RC1 and market etc werent there.

Don't give up hope yet, people have recovered their Defy from even worse conditions. All this could be an outcome of a chain of mistakes so lets stat from scratch.
1. Is your battery charged? Does it show charging LED when plugged in wall charger while turned OFF ?
2. Which OS do you have? also 64bit or 32?
3. Which Motorola Driver and RSDLite version do you have?
4. Where did you download the SBF files from? paste the link to that thread.
5. How are you flashing the SBF? (what steps do you take)
Also, try this:
Pull out the battery, Hold Defy in your one hand and press Vol Up+Down+Power button all together. Now, quickly insert the battery with the other hand keeping those buttons pressed and you will be taken to stock recovery.
Only Wipe data and wipe cache, do not install update.zip or anything else.
Once done restart the cell and let us know what happens.

JimmyMagic said:
Never ending problems mate. Cant get RSD lite to work.
Keep getting.....
"failed flashing process. Failed flashing process. unable to retrieve initialization values from INI file"
Running as administrator and have tried 2 different SFB files.
Im giving up all hope, been reading forums all day and my eyes are starting to hurt.
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thats a common problem related to the version of RSDlite..
use 5.3.1 and try to flash again..
All the best

Got it sorted at last. Just needed RSD Lite 4.9.
Still had issues after, but managed to sort em out by installing CM7 then Gapps, rebooting then factory resetting data and cache.
A long struggle, but got there in the end.
Many thanks to everyone who helped me out, I am so grateful.

can u tell me which SBF u used that worked? any link ?

rangapsr said:
can u tell me which SBF u used that worked? any link ?
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Use 3.4.2 177-005 Nordic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037076

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093352 this helped me...