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Can you use Evo 4g on other countries?

Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You

julioavalon2015 said:
Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I think this is the current list of nations with CDMA networks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks
I would recommend that you simply buy a phone from a local mobile company. CDMA phones are harder to get working on other systems than GSM phones.

You have to find out what networks you have where you live. American CDMA is pretty much only a North American signal. The Evo is built to run on the Sprint network which is CDMA.
Most European countries (I know you are not in European country) run on a GSM network. Two of USA's bigger companies run GSM phones...AT&T and T-Mobile. Phones from both those companies will run in Europe...but not at 3G. But they will work.
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
Not sure if that helps. What network does your phone company use? Then get a phone that will work on that network. Evo is only CDMA so pretty much only a North American phone.

thank you very much for your answer, i hope to get a wonderful phone soon, and thank you again

Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...

julioavalon2015 said:
Hello ppl, the problem that i have is that i want to buy an HTC EVO 4G, but i live in central américa and I dont know if i can use it here, if i cant wich one would u recommend me, i want a phone with at least a CPU running at 1Ghz and a nice camera, thanks for ur comments and sorry if i´m doing something wrong, Thank You
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I live in Asia and yes, as long as you have compatible CDMA networks it will work, even the EVDO works!! You'll just need to ask your CDMA provider to inject a CDMA number or you can unlock it yourself using CDMA works (a bit risky thou)

Find out what frequencies the country you are trying to use it in run on their CDMA networks, Sprint runs on 1900MHz, the EVO roams on Verizon's 800MHz band. 800MHz is only for voice, 1900MHz runs both voice and data. So if you are in a country with a 800MHz CDMA network it will work, but only for voice/texts. WiMax runs on 2.5GHz, no one else uses that band for WiMax.

Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
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Even if it works, and you try and experiment with it only, you might get a few thousand dollar phone bill. Be very careful.
It has happened with many people with iPhone.

sablesurfer said:
My new Evo will not work in Europe...so next time I travel I will need to consider this.
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Yes it will.

GHOST99K said:
Get a unlocked nexus one it will save u the cdma trouble
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Yep, the N1 has nearly the same specs, and is available in both an AT&T flavor and T-Mobile flavor of GSM. Find out what you need in your area (I expect it will be the T-Mobile phone) and go for that instead.
The N1 has a 5MP camera instead of 8MP, but the picture quality is often just as good (higher MP just means you can blow it up or crop more) and the screen is a 3.7" instead of 4.3". However both run basically the same hardware inside, and the N1 has a more mature modding community.

herzzreh said:
Yes it will.
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While Europe is a big place, the voice & wireless data portions of the Sprint Evo will not work in England, Ireland, Spain, France, Portugal, or Germany. Just like 95% percent of all Sprint phones.

herzzreh said:
Yes it will.
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Uhm...a flat contradiction adds nothing to the conversation. More data if you have it. The non-compatibility with Ireland/Europe/etc was a huge deal to me. One I had to just swallow and accept that if I want the phone I'd have to deal with travel at that time.
I spent weeks researching and was even told by Sprint store that no go on the Evo.
CNET: "Alternatively, if your relative is a Sprint or a Verizon customer, he or she can rent GSM phones from the carrier for the length of the trip:
HTC: "Networks CDMA 800/1900 MHz EVDO Rev. A, WiMAX 2. 5 to 2.7GHz; 802.16e"
Don't be an azz and throw out a denial with no information. Even HTC shows this phone has NO GSM.

chazglenn3 said:
Mine roamed on both data and voice when I was in Cabo San Lucas last week...
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Is it an extra charge to use phone there..?

[Q] Will The Epic 4G Touch Work In Europe?

Like the title says, will this phone work in Europe? I am assuming it won't but I dare to dream. If the answer is /no/ then is it not possible due to hardware limitations (antenna not designed for GSM or w/e) or is it not possible because there's no mod/tool/patch/whatnot to unlock it for Europe. And if by any chance the answer is /yes/ then ignore me and call me names.
Also, as you might make out from my post, I'm not very mobile-stuff savvy so forgive me if I come off sorta clueless. Because I am.
Thank you.

If there is any cdma networks in europe then it may be possible..

The answer is no. There are no CDMA networks in Europe and it's not a world phone.

At least WiFi will work. XD

...that depends, which Europe you talkin about?

daneurysm said:
...that depends, which Europe you talkin about?
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Romania/Greece
but yeah, probably no CDMA in europe so...
oh well, I'll just go to my corner and cry myself to sleep. Thanks for the replies everyone.

Verizon vs. ATT: Is OTA Support the Same?

Hey guys, I currently own a Nexus S 4g on sprint and I'm really considering jumping ship due to the ****ty data speeds, pulled premier program and lack of official CDMA Nexus S support.
My question is this: Is there a similar issue with the CDMA GNex on Verizon? Is it too early to tell?
I desperately want 4g considering the coverage is great in my area, but I'd be willing to trade that to not deal with the same bull**** that my Nexus S on sprint forces me to deal with.
TL;DR Version: Does Verizon GNex have full OTA and Rom support compared to the GSM Unlocked Version on AT&T's network?

Verizon OTAs will be behind GSM generally, but not a discernible amount. The basic thing to know here is that Verizon's CDMA and LTE network stacks are proprietary (closed source) and they have to add it and test it before putting an OTA out. This doesn't have to happen on the GSM model as its standardized and open source.
ROM community should still be pretty strong for the VZW version. But when it comes down to it the base of users using the GSM model around the world is probably larger (and its the official dev phone). There will surely be good community support of both versions.
Thing is that if you care about OTAs you probably don't care about ROMs, and vice versa. Kinda gotta tell us what you care about more. But luckily with the Nexus you'll stay pretty up to date without rooting and ROMing.
The amount of data you will use is 100% based on your usage patterns. Don't let someone else's usage give you an idea of how much you'll use. That's something you should be able to figure out based on your previous usage.
And by the way, there is no AT&T version of this phone. There is the unlocked GSM version, which works on any GSM carrier in the world. The OTAs on that model have nothing to do with what carrier you're currently using (only on the variant of regional software/radio you may or may not have).

martonikaj said:
Verizon OTAs will be behind GSM generally, but not a discernible amount. The basic thing to know here is that Verizon's CDMA and LTE network stacks are proprietary (closed source) and they have to add it and test it before putting an OTA out. This doesn't have to happen on the GSM model as its standardized and open source.
ROM community should still be pretty strong for the VZW version. But when it comes down to it the base of users using the GSM model around the world is probably larger (and its the official dev phone). There will surely be good community support of both versions.
The amount of data you will use is 100% based on your usage patterns. Don't let someone else's usage give you an idea of how much you'll use. That's something you should be able to figure out based on your previous usage.
And by the way, there is no AT&T version of this phone. There is the unlocked GSM version, which works on any GSM carrier in the world. The OTAs on that model have nothing to do with what carrier you're currently using (only on the variant of regional software/radio you may or may not have).
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Thanks for the response and the clarification about the unlocked GSM version. In your opinion, do you think the official dev support/larger user base is worth the slower data speeds and ****tier customer service?

supralover72 said:
Thanks for the response and the clarification about the unlocked GSM version. In your opinion, do you think the official dev support/larger user base is worth the slower data speeds and ****tier customer service?
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Well the data speeds aren't just slower with no benefit. HSPA+ does severely better on battery than LTE does. But the speeds are still very serviceable. IMHO 10mbps is still plenty fast lol.
You also get the benefit of choosing your own carrier. If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you'll get the same customer service for network issues, you just won't get hardware customer service. With GSM you get to choose any carrier and stay off contract and potentially save a TON of money every month if you decide to go that route. You probably have about 12 carriers to choose from when looking at all the GSM offerings in the US. When you buy the VZW Galaxy Nexus, you're going to be paying Verizon every month for the rest of the time you use that device, and that's it.
This is a much larger question that has been battled in 100's of pages of flaming between VZW and other GSM users. You should read up on those but when it comes down to it just understand that there are pros and cons to both that you should weigh when choosing. As I said you have to decide what's important to you.

martonikaj said:
Well the data speeds aren't just slower with no benefit. HSPA+ does severely better on battery than LTE does. But the speeds are still very serviceable. IMHO 10mbps is still plenty fast lol.
You also get the benefit of choosing your own carrier. If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you'll get the same customer service for network issues, you just won't get hardware customer service. With GSM you get to choose any carrier and stay off contract and potentially save a TON of money every month if you decide to go that route. You probably have about 12 carriers to choose from when looking at all the GSM offerings in the US.
This is a much larger question that has been battled in 100's of pages of flaming between VZW and other GSM users. You should read up on those but when it comes down to it just understand that there are pros and cons to both that you should weigh when choosing.
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Thanks a bunch for the help and for being polite. I'll do some searching and read up on that for sure. Sounds like HSPA+ ain't half bad...

supralover72 said:
Thanks a bunch for the help and for being polite. I'll do some searching and read up on that for sure. Sounds like HSPA+ ain't half bad...
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The GSM version isn't a 2nd class citizen to the LTE version. Not by a long shot. You shouldn't feel like you're getting the short end of the stick going GSM. Its a world class device.

martonikaj said:
The GSM version isn't a 2nd class citizen to the LTE version. Not by a long shot. You shouldn't feel like you're getting the short end of the stick going GSM. Its a world class device.
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After looking at some of these no contract prices and considering I can have my Brother's employee edition GSM GNex for free this is looking like the option for me.

supralover72 said:
After looking at some of these no contract prices and considering I can have my Brother's employee edition GSM GNex for free this is looking like the option for me.
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You should read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014

Only 16 gigs of memory in the GSM version is something to think about with no memory card slot...

martonikaj said:
You should read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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Awesome reading it now. Thanks.
@eman: Not an issue, my nexus s has 16gb so I'm used to consolidating. Thanks for the heads up though.

supralover72 said:
Awesome reading it now. Thanks.
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Yeah no problem its an awesome thread.
I'm personally using my unlocked i9250 on $30 T-Mobile plan and its working fantastically.

martonikaj said:
Yeah no problem its an awesome thread.
I'm personally using my unlocked i9250 on $30 T-Mobile plan and its working fantastically.
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Yea I couldn't believe that plan. Seemed too good to be true till I read people actually using it.
It must do wonders for the hearing impaired.

supralover72 said:
Yea I couldn't believe that plan. Seemed too good to be true till I read people actually using it.
It must do wonders for the hearing impaired.
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Its a pretty amazing plan really. Best deal in wireless in the US today IMHO.

[Q] pageplus

Hi,
I just bought a samsung galaxy nexus i515 verizon 4G LTE cell phone. I came to know that 4G phone does not work with page plus without programming/hacking(?) . Is it possible to make this cell work with pageplus? I do not need 4g or 3g . Just talk and text is fine.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Paras.

Is pageplus GSM? If so then for sure no. If pageplus is CDMA then still no, at least I haven't heard of one CDMA phone being used on another CDMA carrier. To my knowledge the only carrier VZW phones can be used on is VZW, except for the few VZW "global" phones that also support GSM.

WiredPirate said:
Is pageplus GSM? If so then for sure no. If pageplus is CDMA then still no, at least I haven't heard of one CDMA phone being used on another CDMA carrier. To my knowledge the only carrier VZW phones can be used on is VZW, except for the few VZW "global" phones that also support GSM.
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Well pageplus is CDMA and uses VZW network. But when I called them they said 4G phones do not work and needs some programming to make it work on their 3G network. I am not sure what do I do.
Paras.

Oh I see. Very interesting, but over my head. I will keep this thread subscribed.:good:
They didn't offer any other info or leads as to how to go about doing this? How do they program other phones to their network? Seems like the LTE would only make it easier to activate, unless they do not have any LTE towers in place.

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WiredPirate said:
Oh I see. Very interesting, but over my head. I will keep this thread subscribed.:good:
They didn't offer any other info or leads as to how to go about doing this? How do they program other phones to their network? Seems like the LTE would only make it easier to activate, unless they do not have any LTE towers in place.
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Any one? SO no way to make GNX verizon to work on pageplus?
I will hate to return this neat phone.
Paras.

pradhanparas said:
Any one? SO no way to make GNX verizon to work on pageplus?
I will hate to return this neat phone.
Paras.
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ive never done it, but this might be a good place to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696621

[Q] GN LTE on T-Mobile?

Now that T-Mobile is actually going to 4G LTE, will the Verizon GNex work on their network?

no.
CDMA is required for voice calling and it will be a different frequency.

thuer said:
Now that T-Mobile is actually going to 4G LTE, will the Verizon GNex work on their network?
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Nope.
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Any ideas on whether the CDMA GNex phones will work on Tmo's LTE network? I'm visiting Vegas next week and kind of hoping I can test the network.

TheRandom1 said:
Any ideas on whether the CDMA GNex phones will work on Tmo's LTE network? I'm visiting Vegas next week and kind of hoping I can test the network.
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no. see previous answer. its like you didnt even read.

Zepius said:
no. see previous answer. its like you didnt even read.
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I mean the GSM phones that work on Tmobile, whether they will work on Tmo's LTE network.

TheRandom1 said:
I mean the GSM phones that work on Tmobile, whether they will work on Tmo's LTE network.
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no, you referenced CDMA phones which are in no way GSM.
besides, the GSM nexus doesnt have a LTE chip so the answer is still no.

Zepius said:
no, you referenced CDMA phones which are in no way GSM.
besides, the GSM nexus doesnt have a LTE chip so the answer is still no.
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I know what I referenced, my previous post was me saying that I meant to say GSM not CDMA, so why be a ****? Just answer the question.
No LTE chip, got it, that's all you had to reply with.

TheRandom1 said:
I know what I referenced, my previous post was me saying that I meant to say GSM not CDMA, so why be a ****? Just answer the question.
No LTE chip, got it, that's all you had to reply with.
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considering i read your reply before you edited it, you clearly need to back off.
you asked the same question as the OP so i replied with you didnt read, which is true.
then you made some snide little comment but realized you were wrong and i answered correctly, so you edited what you wrote. oops?

Zepius said:
considering i read your reply before you edited it, you clearly need to back off.
you asked the same question as the OP so i replied with you didnt read, which is true.
then you made some snide little comment but realized you were wrong and i answered correctly, so you edited what you wrote. oops?
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Actually, I did read, I simply posted the CDMA instead of GSM, an honest typo. As soon as I realized what I did, yes I did change my reply. Then you answered saying that what I said I meant was wrong... how you know what's going on in my brain is beyond me, but your dickish replies aren't helping. All you had to do is say "no, the GSM phone doesn't have an LTE chip" and it's done. Instead you decide to be a smartass in your posts and get me riled up. So how about you take your own advice and also back off.

How about you stop posting questions and find answers by searching?
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namtombout said:
How about you stop posting questions and find answers by searching?
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Funny you should mention that since I did and this thread came up.

If you tape a VZW Gnex and a GSM Gnex back to back, then you can have both GSM & LTE.:laugh:

You just went full stupid, never go full stupid.