Hi,
I've used a USB charger on all my phones for a few years now. Just plug phone in on my desk and no worries. However my new Defy doesn't seem to take a charge from the USB on my network device (it's not a full PC). However my HTC HD2 could get a charge from it so:
1. Is the Defy more power hungry that it won't charge from an ND (I assume NDs put out less power over USB than a PC)
2. Does it just not show on the battery on the Defy that it's charging?
3. Have I missed something simple? I've gone into USB connection and selected charge only. I can't install drivers on the ND though, could that be it? The ND hasn't said it's found new hardware either though.
Thanks in advance for advice
motorola has a notorious reputation on this, they require a usb driver to be installed for charging some of their phones...
i think there's some strange combinations at work about this but, just use a standalone charger and it should solve the problem.
Thanks. I thought it would be that.
Bit short of plug sockets at work but I'll figure something out
Another point to note is that the Defy is very fussy regarding USB cables. A lot of cheap ones will pass data but no charge.
martint235 said:
Thanks. I thought it would be that.
Bit short of plug sockets at work but I'll figure something out
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Would you consider hacking a usb cable to make a charging lead? A standard usb lead plugged into a PC will try to enumerate with the PC before it starts to draw power from the PC. However if you hacked a usb cable and shorted the DM and DP lines on the phone side, the phone 'should' detect the cable as a mains charger rather than a PC, thus enabling charge without any drivers on the PC. It would be something like the attachment...
Thanks for all the replies. Although my USB cable wasn't cheap and was capable of charging an HD2 which must be more power hungry than a Defy, it turns out the Defy is really fussy. It's charging fine through the Motorola USB lead on my network device.
My USB loading experience
Hi,
just to share my exp:
- loading with most USB loaders: fine
- My Car loaders and my multi power adaptor with usb can load everything but the defy
- on Computer no problem (some say you will have better battery performance when loading on non Computer: I can´t see a difference)
- cable doesn´t change anything
technome said:
Another point to note is that the Defy is very fussy regarding USB cables. A lot of cheap ones will pass data but no charge.
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I've bought a couple of USB cables from ebay. My Defy seems to connect and disconnect when using them, like it has a loose connection. If I use the Motorola one, of course it's fine!
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Sometimes my phone will not charge when connected to the wall or my computer. The problem usually goes away on it's own, but when I need to charge I generally need to charge.
Sometimes I cannot access my phone via USB on PC either.
Only with data to and from the computer. No charging issues at all.
I've never had issues when plugged in to computer (USB). I frequently have issues when plugging into wall charger, but I think I have a bad cable. Phone will recognize charger connect, sit for a second, and lose the connection. Charging stops while cable is in. I bought a cheap cable on-line for the wall charger. I guess you get what you pay for....!
I have issues with usb connnect to computer since flashing cm6 8/13 nightly. Will not charge or mount usb.
Restoring back to 8/11 seems to fix issue but can't seem to get any newer nightlys to work or rc2.
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michaelvibe said:
Sometimes my phone will not charge when connected to the wall or my computer. The problem usually goes away on it's own, but when I need to charge I generally need to charge.
Sometimes I cannot access my phone via USB on PC either.
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Kind of sounds like a loose connector. I bought some micro USB cables from monoprice and the size of the connector was just a tad smaller than the plug for the phone. So if the cable wasn't plugged in and propped up in a certain way, the phone wouldn't charge. I just bought some new cables from monoprice (the ferite core ones) and problem solved.
I guess when this happens to you, wiggle the cable a little and then hold it for a few seconds at a certain angle and see if it starts charging... if it does then you know you need a new cable.
I was having similar issues and with my sd card permission issues I simply uninstalled my usb drivers and my removable disc drivers for the phone on the computer I think there was like 3 sets and haven't had an issue since.
Folks....
I have a question about the pin out of a USB cable. I have a cable that has a micro USB connector at one end (it plugs into my HTC EVO) and the other end is a standard USB connector.
This cable works just fine when I charge my HTC EVO. However, my computers can not see my htc evo. So I installed software from Sprint called "HTC Sync" version 3 something. Nothing.
So here is my question. Are USB cables that are sold as "Sync" cables have a different pin out than a USB cable that is used for power?
Maybe I need to change a setting in my phone to make it sync?
In settings, under Connect to PC, I have it set up as:
Default Connect Type = HTC Sync
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I also tried:
Default Connect type = Disk drive
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Can some of you give me some advice?
Thanks
jack
Portland Oregon
I can't speak on usb pins but I do know that there are some shoddy low quality usb cables out there (the ones that come with epic 4g) and some good high quality ones (the ones that come with the palm pre). with the low quality ones I can't copy files to my card.
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides.
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Ahhh. OK. Thank you.
jack
USB Cable Charging but not Sync
Some cables do not have hooks and they are loose in phone. This also prevent to connect it with PC for sync.
Noxious Ninja said:
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
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Excellent info.
RTC88 said:
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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Not so much.
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Look sturdy but break too easily. Not as cheap as most chinese made but these cables usually break in about 2 months for me. Dont even think about folding it and putting it in a bag for those frail,dying HTC phones.
I wonder if these are easy to fix...
-Can anyone recommend a simple way to handle these wires or a more durable wire? I dont want to buy one every month. I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Retractable-Cable-Samsung-Vibrant/dp/B004SK35M8/ref=sr_1_19?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1328931599&sr=1-19.
I herd with root and some roms
I herd with root and some roms sync wont work .. make sure u have all the right drivers and ..Ive had a cavle that would work for mass storage for one phone and not another...
While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
It's a first time I see such cable...All I read was people saying it's impossible in the first place. Well, hopefully in 2 weeks I'll be able answer your question
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While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Looks like it's possible on some devices, but not with Galaxy and Nexus family... But it would be great if you can confirm that, so let me know if you can try it. Thanks.
Finally got the cable.
The result - nope, doesn't charge
Maybe the "Allshare hub" could do what your asking for?
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Sonic, any luck with your friends phone? Really looking foward to your results :fingers-crossed:
Do you have part #s for the variable resistors in your samsung post or at least where you got them from? I would be willing to try some things out if I could find the right pieces. What I really want to get my hands on is the MHL adapter that was shown off with that spider laptop at IFA a couple weeks ago..
SUCCESS!!! I can confirm that this USB OTG cable (http://ebayitem.com/190710044655) DOES CHARGE MY GALAXY S3! I plugged in USB cardreader with SD card into the phone through this cable (it lit up and card is fully readable), then plugged USB cable end into PC and phone showed a charging icon! Moreover, after waiting for 5 min. with screen off (cardreader still glowing blue and working) battery has gone up from %72 to %75 (and while I was writing this, to 78%), so it is indeed charging! Yay! It probably won't get up in the car, where just phone alone is "not discharging" at best from the car adapter, but at least it should allow me to listen to music with quality DAC and use navigation without (or with minimal) discharging.
I have not tested it with USB DAC that I intend to use for my car (Behringer UCA222), because I have to go out and buy it. Hopefully it works. Anyway, this cable definitely works with simultaneously charging my north-american Samsung Galaxy S3 (from Bell Canada) while powering USB cardreader!
Somebody else has mentioned that another cable (http://ebayitem.com/120980364117) also worked in his Galaxy S2.
I bought Behringer UCA222 USB DAC and tested it in my car with the USB OTG cable with power that I mentioned. It works great! And the phone is indicating a charge. Sometimes when first playing music after plugging the device it sounds like fast forward for a few seconds (I guess clock rate mismatch or something similar), but after the presumably clock is locked it plays perfectly fine.
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SUCCESS!!! ...
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That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
I found that this configuration works for charging while in USB HOST mode:
S3 -> standard otg cable -> Powered USB2.0 HUB -> devices (keyboard, usb dac, usb hdd...)
The only catch is that the hub must be powered before you plug in the phone or the phone will try to power the hub and will never enter charging mode. I'm using this setup in my car and it works perfectly. As long as I start the car before plugging the phone, we are good to go.
I only confirmed this works with AOKP JB builds. No idea about other roms/kernels. Hopefully this helps someone.
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
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I got mine in the mail today (ordered 10/16) and tried it out as soon as I could. I can confirm it charges and allows for OTG at the same time. This is the auction I bought from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251127542280&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
Hello y'all. I'd like to ask your attention to this thread, especially but not limited to sonicboom and others, I really could use some help.
Unfortunately, I just wasted over $30 on a Valarm IoT OTG Y cable. It does not work at all as a host cable for any USB device on the G4. I was hoping to use the Valarm cable to connect a USB DAC and charge the phone at the same time. The cable will let me charge the phone but whatever I connected to the USB female port is not recognized. If anyone finds a USB host cable that allows charging, please post!
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Unfortunately, I just wasted over $30 on a Valarm IoT OTG Y cable. It does not work at all as a host cable for any USB device on the G4. I was hoping to use the Valarm cable to connect a USB DAC and charge the phone at the same time. The cable will let me charge the phone but whatever I connected to the USB female port is not recognized. If anyone finds a USB host cable that allows charging, please post!
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From what i understand otg goes one way or the other it cant act as a host and carge at the same time. It flips the charging circut to flow out instead of in. Ive been through this on a few phones tried even straight wiring a powerline to the otg itll power the usb device but not charge the phone.
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From what i understand otg goes one way or the other it cant act as a host and carge at the same time. It flips the charging circut to flow out instead of in. Ive been through this on a few phones tried even straight wiring a powerline to the otg itll power the usb device but not charge the phone.
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The manufacturer of that cable clearly states that it'll charge a samsung phone, not confirmed working on a G4 though. Here is the link, http://shop.valarm.net/products/micro-usb-host-otg-y-cable-with-micro-usb-power-for-samsung
I wish there was a way to enable charging using OTG.
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The manufacturer of that cable clearly states that it'll charge a samsung phone, not confirmed working on a G4 though. Here is the link, http://shop.valarm.net/products/micro-usb-host-otg-y-cable-with-micro-usb-power-for-samsung
I wish there was a way to enable charging using OTG.
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Yea me to i have a few devices that hook to my car that drain my tablet and phone batts and it kills me the only other way ive got it to work is hard wire a charger to the phone. But of coarse this is a old throw away gs3 that im talkin bout not my g4. I havnt tried on my g4 yet but its all phone specs has to have dual charging circuts cause they can only flow one at a time. Now some new devices i know. Do support otg with charging capabilities.
When I plug phone via USB into PC running Windows 11 the phone will only charge.I don't get any options on the phone for file transfer and the PC doesn't detect it. Any tips. It's usually pretty straightforward.
maybe a driver problem?
It came down to the cables I was using.
The Huawei cable I use for the 65W charger didn't work. The Huawei cable for the 15W Wireless Charger didn't work. Found another cable in my cupboard (don't know what or where it comes from) but it now works and I get the options for transfer on the Fold and it shows up in PC's file manager.
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Thanks for replying. It was a cable problem.Doesn't seem to like Huawei cables.Very strange.
So the Huawei cable ends are Purple and Orange in colour. Both cables don't work for transfer but only charge when plugging into your PC. The cable end which is White works fine.
Just in case someone else runs into this problem since the phone doesn't come with a charger and cable and you might use your Huawei cables and find you can't connect to your PC to transfer files but only charge.
That isn't new. Samsung had before issue where if you used non Samsung cable the Samsung phone will nag about port was wet, when it wasn't. But now it seems Samsung finally got rid of that limit so charging with any USB C works now. But it seems you need to use original cable for phone when it comes to transfer of files.