Folks....
I have a question about the pin out of a USB cable. I have a cable that has a micro USB connector at one end (it plugs into my HTC EVO) and the other end is a standard USB connector.
This cable works just fine when I charge my HTC EVO. However, my computers can not see my htc evo. So I installed software from Sprint called "HTC Sync" version 3 something. Nothing.
So here is my question. Are USB cables that are sold as "Sync" cables have a different pin out than a USB cable that is used for power?
Maybe I need to change a setting in my phone to make it sync?
In settings, under Connect to PC, I have it set up as:
Default Connect Type = HTC Sync
Ask me is checked
I also tried:
Default Connect type = Disk drive
Ask me is checked
Can some of you give me some advice?
Thanks
jack
Portland Oregon
I can't speak on usb pins but I do know that there are some shoddy low quality usb cables out there (the ones that come with epic 4g) and some good high quality ones (the ones that come with the palm pre). with the low quality ones I can't copy files to my card.
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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Noxious Ninja said:
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides.
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Ahhh. OK. Thank you.
jack
USB Cable Charging but not Sync
Some cables do not have hooks and they are loose in phone. This also prevent to connect it with PC for sync.
Noxious Ninja said:
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
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Excellent info.
RTC88 said:
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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Not so much.
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Look sturdy but break too easily. Not as cheap as most chinese made but these cables usually break in about 2 months for me. Dont even think about folding it and putting it in a bag for those frail,dying HTC phones.
I wonder if these are easy to fix...
-Can anyone recommend a simple way to handle these wires or a more durable wire? I dont want to buy one every month. I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Retractable-Cable-Samsung-Vibrant/dp/B004SK35M8/ref=sr_1_19?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1328931599&sr=1-19.
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I herd with root and some roms sync wont work .. make sure u have all the right drivers and ..Ive had a cavle that would work for mass storage for one phone and not another...
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I have a Tilt 2, had it since last March. I've had to have it replaced twice already due to the USB jack getting to the point where it no longer functions except to charge, it won't connect via cable to the pc, nor will it work with the multi-function adapter provided at purchase by HTC.
Is it dangerous/wrong to use after-market chargers/adapters/standard usb cables with the phone??? Am I damaging the usb port by using car chargers/wall chargers, etc that I got from ebay, or is this just a matter of bad design?
It isn't. It looks different, but its not. I believe its ONLY notched like that because not only is that port a USB port, but it also has a few extra 'wires' for connecting a headset to it. (via the HTC adapter)
Of course, the corporate answer is.. Yes using a non HTC Power Adapter could damage your TP2. But unofficially, I doubt it.
I've stopped buying over priced chargers for my phones and will by any Mini-USB charge that I can find. Most will work. The voltage does not matter anymore since USB is a set standard, and any modification to the voltage would not comply to the USB standard, and it wouldn't be USB then.
I've had the same issue with my TP2 (and with the HTC Wing I had before). Check the power adapters itself. I have a RAZR charger I've been using for years, and I think the plug itself has just about had it.
Also take some canned air to the USB port on the phone (while it is powered off and battery removed) and try to remove debris from the USB port. The minuscule little piece of dust could cause a bad connection. Electronic cleaner works better at this. (its LIKE canned air but contains alcohol-based cleaner in the "air". It's available at Radio Shack.) This fixed the problem I was having with my Wing.
And finally, it may just be time for a new phone. The ports just plain wear out from daily plugging and unplugging that adapter in. One slight bend and the port is all out of alignment.. (does it wiggle instead of being a firm connection when you plug in the charger?)
This is why I am waiting for the day these induction charges are standard in phones.. No more power adapters!
I just use a normal USB plug for mine. I don't even fool with the one it came with so I don't get that one confuse with something else. They only notched it like that to make a buck, I would guess.
If you are trying to use Mini USB headphone, only the ones made by HTC will work as it has 11 pins. Standard Mini USB has only 5 pins.
Hi,
I've used a USB charger on all my phones for a few years now. Just plug phone in on my desk and no worries. However my new Defy doesn't seem to take a charge from the USB on my network device (it's not a full PC). However my HTC HD2 could get a charge from it so:
1. Is the Defy more power hungry that it won't charge from an ND (I assume NDs put out less power over USB than a PC)
2. Does it just not show on the battery on the Defy that it's charging?
3. Have I missed something simple? I've gone into USB connection and selected charge only. I can't install drivers on the ND though, could that be it? The ND hasn't said it's found new hardware either though.
Thanks in advance for advice
motorola has a notorious reputation on this, they require a usb driver to be installed for charging some of their phones...
i think there's some strange combinations at work about this but, just use a standalone charger and it should solve the problem.
Thanks. I thought it would be that.
Bit short of plug sockets at work but I'll figure something out
Another point to note is that the Defy is very fussy regarding USB cables. A lot of cheap ones will pass data but no charge.
martint235 said:
Thanks. I thought it would be that.
Bit short of plug sockets at work but I'll figure something out
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Would you consider hacking a usb cable to make a charging lead? A standard usb lead plugged into a PC will try to enumerate with the PC before it starts to draw power from the PC. However if you hacked a usb cable and shorted the DM and DP lines on the phone side, the phone 'should' detect the cable as a mains charger rather than a PC, thus enabling charge without any drivers on the PC. It would be something like the attachment...
Thanks for all the replies. Although my USB cable wasn't cheap and was capable of charging an HD2 which must be more power hungry than a Defy, it turns out the Defy is really fussy. It's charging fine through the Motorola USB lead on my network device.
My USB loading experience
Hi,
just to share my exp:
- loading with most USB loaders: fine
- My Car loaders and my multi power adaptor with usb can load everything but the defy
- on Computer no problem (some say you will have better battery performance when loading on non Computer: I can´t see a difference)
- cable doesn´t change anything
technome said:
Another point to note is that the Defy is very fussy regarding USB cables. A lot of cheap ones will pass data but no charge.
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I've bought a couple of USB cables from ebay. My Defy seems to connect and disconnect when using them, like it has a loose connection. If I use the Motorola one, of course it's fine!
I bought these on ebay. The HDMI is short but worked but when I connect both cables to lapdock, the USB is not being recognized so the keyboard/mouse is not working. I want this just to act as an extension so I can use full lapdock abilities with cables. Any idea what's going on (cable charges on plug but does not charge on lapdock)? Maybe someone has better usb cables.
fixed the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
links appear to be broken...
From your title I've been looking for these (or similar) cables for a long time and have been unsuccessful. However I have yet to try them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
i don't think it will work either way, tried a few things like this with no avail.
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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mamoranto said:
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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the only reason that is my suspicion is because there are many "charging" products out there that don't really need data. Why there would be a need for such a small charging extension cable is beyond me, but it's the only solution I can think of, but I have no way of confirming or denying it either. The ebay descriptions seem to imply that the data wires are there, but we all know how reliable ebay can be...
Another idea I had was that it might be sensing the resistance in the cable, since, if I remember correctly, that was how some think/though the car dock puts the atrix into car mode without a magnet as is/was commonly used. Again these are just ideas.
Or the cable is just so poorly made that it's defective...I honestly have no clue
Has anyone got full lapdock capabilities using extension cables? I can only get the screen working and not the mouse and keyboard.
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my lapdock to work with the Otterbox
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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If you're asking me, i didn't. I was referring to the ebay link in the third post.
grevedan said:
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my webtop to work with the Otterbox
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before I read that post, I was looking around the forums and the web yesterday well into the night. here are some of the things I've found that might be relevant to everyone (and it might possibly be cheaper, though more diy).
Micro USB stuff:
I have no idea why this exists http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...r-cable-for-blackberry-9900-black-30cm-107901
I have no idea why this only has 4 pins http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Here's what I am thinking about doing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140626354628#ht_2821wt_1177 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...ultDomain_0&hash=item415eac6dc0#ht_2821wt_980
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...YPB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854686&sr=8-2
then the hdmi cable that came with our phone:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Stan...QTA8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854856&sr=8-8
The HDMI certainly looks like it may work but the reason I didn't buy that product from ebay a few weeks ago was because it was $50. Now miraculously, it's only $6. Maybe I'll get that if the USB cable I just bought that was suggested works a few posts back.
misiek93 said:
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
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This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
everything asked/answered in here is already covered in the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
robrj said:
This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
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The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
robrj said:
The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
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I ordered the USB cable and experience this same problem, though I am waiting for my hdmi parts to come in (by April 6th I should have all my parts...). The cable itself works flawlessly as a micro usb extension cable when connecting it to the computer.
again as mentioned in the other thread, you want to be careful with the 5v coming out that micro hdmi port. for connecting back to your phone would be no issue, as the phone charges using this voltage, but hooking the lapdocks micro usb up to a host device probably wont appreciate the 5v coming back up the cable, where normally the usb device would be pulling power from said host, not providing it.
one suggestion is to just clip the red wire inside your micro usb cable/adapter.
btw the adapters i use do fit snugly side by side, without modification.
I've been following this thread for a little while now, and I wanted to share something I found.
I was looking at the Motorola Travel Webtop adapter. And I was curious to see whether it could be tweaked to suite our needs. I naively thought/hoped that I could flip the connectors in the device to make a small adapter to connect the Atrix to newer Lapdocks. Unfortunately as you can see in the pictures below (sorry not enough posts to link to the pictures) the two connectors are connected via a PCB not wires or a ribbon cable. Although I still have high hopes that I can de-solder the HDMI and USB connectors, and use a small length of flat ribbon cable to connect them and then re-positions the connectors in the case, to build a micro adapter to use the Atrix on the newer Lapdocks. Should this fail this will at least prevent others from making the same mistake, and solve the mystery of what's really inside the Webtop Travel adapter.
Do any one know if this Micro HDMI Cable would work for Lapdock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Feet-HDMI...s_Adapters&hash=item416612cecb#ht_1149wt_1187
Description says for Asus tf201 MEMO ME171.
I believe all Cables are standard. Can this used to Atrix 4g with Lapdock?
I have otterbox case for Atrix and don't want to Remove cover everytime to plug in Lapdock.
Last night my cat decided to chew through my HTC usb cable, so i need to get another one.
I've read somewhere that HTC cables have certain pins shorted out that enable faster charging (than regular micro usb cables).
Is there a particular feature i need to look out for when buying a replacement micro usb cable, or is the safe bet to get a genuine HTC one?
Thanks in advance
Hereisphilly said:
Last night my cat decided to chew through my HTC usb cable, so i need to get another one.
I've read somewhere that HTC cables have certain pins shorted out that enable faster charging (than regular micro usb cables).
Is there a particular feature i need to look out for when buying a replacement micro usb cable, or is the safe bet to get a genuine HTC one?
Thanks in advance
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If I rember well the Samsung cables are shorted, not HTC.
I would go for Samsung or HTC cables, they work at least... had one from my Toucpad, broken, hama, broken, noname, broken, samsung (from nexus) working, one X, working
It's actually the charger that has the pins shorted to enable fast charge. If it was the cable then the cable would only work as a power cable (no data/sync). Just get any decently well made micro USB cable and use the official charger and you will still have fast charge capability. I've used a couple random micro USB cables I happened to have lying around and they all allow fast charge when I use the HTC charger, and none of them allowed fast charge on my other USB/AC adapters (except my iPhone 4's adapter). I went on eBay and found a couple of cables that do have the pins in them shorted and they fast charge on all of my power adapters. They theoretically shouldn't be usable for syncing since the data pins should be shorted however - and I don't want to test it because then the phone would start trying to pull >500mA out of my computer's USB port, which it may not be able to handle. And I don't like fried motherboards.
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4z01235 said:
It's actually the charger that has the pins shorted to enable fast charge. If it was the cable then the cable would only work as a power cable (no data/sync). Just get any decently well made micro USB cable and use the official charger and you will still have fast charge capability. I've used a couple random micro USB cables I happened to have lying around and they all allow fast charge when I use the HTC charger, and none of them allowed fast charge on my other USB/AC adapters (except my iPhone 4's adapter). I went on eBay and found a couple of cables that do have the pins in them shorted and they fast charge on all of my power adapters. They theoretically shouldn't be usable for syncing since the data pins should be shorted however - and I don't want to test it because then the phone would start trying to pull >500mA out of my computer's USB port, which it may not be able to handle. And I don't like fried motherboards.
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Perfect, thanks alot!
Hi
Hereisphilly said:
Perfect, thanks alot!
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These are really good quality, generous length, plug fits like the original and they "AC" charge from the HTC adapter.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0021X7H6O
Regards
Phil
What your one x charger cable is, is a micro USB to USB cable. That's all you need, I use my fathers from his Samsung galaxy s and it works fine. You can use any micro USB to USB cable, I saw one just yesterday and a store for 3 dollars, they're quite cheap
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Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165
donk165 said:
Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165
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Using 1+'s original cable is always the best get.
donk165 said:
Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165
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Actually, yes. I've had my One for more than 2 years now and changed the cable as well. There are actually 2 cables I can recommend as of now - from Nillkin and from Aukey. Both are sturdy, solid, fast and just do their job as good as they should. Aukey, however, is much better in one aspect: it's longer. 2m vs 1.2m. Aaaaand it still charges with full 2.1A current, which, in my opinion, is pretty awesome. Both of them are also pretty cheap - you can buy them for ~ 5$ - just search for them on Aliexpress
I had good experiences with Sharkoon and LogiLink cables.
I've got the 5 pack from Anker and it's doing well. On a test it had good performance and was very cheap on Amazon.
Item model number: AK-B7103011
ASIN: B00Q88RI0S
You should get USB cable with Micro USB
Thanks for the replies, I guess my main concern was getting a USB cable that works for data transfer. I ended up ordering a triple pack of Aukey USB's. 2 x 1m and 1 x 2m cables. The description said that they work with 2.1a chargers and USB 2.0 data transfer which is what I need.
Thank you for the suggestions !
Can you please share the link of the purchase
donk165 said:
Thanks for the replies, I guess my main concern was getting a USB cable that works for data transfer. I ended up ordering a triple pack of Aukey USB's. 2 x 1m and 1 x 2m cables. The description said that they work with 2.1a chargers and USB 2.0 data transfer which is what I need.
Thank you for the suggestions !
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Can you please share the link of the purchase. I also need one to buy and can't find the best option. Thanks in advance.?
tilakdebnath said:
Can you please share the link of the purchase. I also need one to buy and can't find the best option. Thanks in advance.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-USB-...d=1488165703&sr=1-3&keywords=aukey+usb+3+pack
Here you go, that's the exact pack I bought.
Is this as good as the original cable for charging & data transfer
You can try BlitzWolf reversible micro usb cable. It's able to charge with full 2A current and most funny, it's really reversible, so it does not matter which side you connect to your phone (unlike normal micro usb connector).
tilakdebnath said:
Is this as good as the original cable for charging & data transfer
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Yeah, it charges quickly, and data transfer works great. I haven't benchmarked it or anything but its doing its job, and the 2m cable is great! It still charges quickly despite being longer. The micro USB head has a satisfyingly click when plugged in and the USB head is normal and works well.
donk165 said:
Yeah, it charges quickly, and data transfer works great. I haven't benchmarked it or anything but its doing its job, and the 2m cable is great! It still charges quickly despite being longer. The micro USB head has a satisfyingly click when plugged in and the USB head is normal and works well.
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Thanks a lot !!☺