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I will most likely be moving to a place next year where Sprint only provides roaming 3G service. My question is, is Sprint going to get anal on me if I do nothing but roam on 3G? I asked a Sprint rep and they said that it wouldn't be a problem, of course he was trying to sell me a phone....

Do you want to keep Sprint? I know if you want to get out all you have to do is prove that you are moving to/live in an area that doesn't have decent or any service and they will waive the ETF.

I don't think Sprint would mind . Just make sure you have plenty of minutes because every call you make will come off your 1500 or whatever anytime plan you got.
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Ah crap so the unlimited mobile minutes don't apply in a roaming area? That is the main reason I went with Sprint lol. They don't advertise that on their site.

michaelvibe said:
Ah crap so the unlimited mobile minutes don't apply in a roaming area? That is the main reason I went with Sprint lol. They don't advertise that on their site.
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unlimited is unlimitied... just anymobile anytime won't work if you roam to verizon, so unlimited minutes is the way to go.

Evo 4g on virgin mobile

since virgin uses sprints tower would it be possible to use the evo on virgin because im think about buy a used one from a friend and i dont want to sign a 2 year deal

Nope would not work. If you really want a evo and your friend will sell you his then you would not need to sign a two year contract. The two is only required for people who buy a new phone or upgrade there phone and do not wish to pay retail price
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why are you starting multiple threads for the same question?

xlrdxrevengex said:
Nope would not work. If you really want a evo and your friend will sell you his then you would not need to sign a two year contract. The two is only required for people who buy a new phone or upgrade there phone and do not wish to pay retail price
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the thing is that sprint doesn't a have plan where some one can buy a phone at full price and use it on a month to month deal or do they and i just cant find in on there webpage like with Verizon i bought a droid when they first came out but paid full price but used it mouth to mouth does sprint have somethink like that

Try going to a Sprint Corporate store and asking.
PROTIP: Bestbuy is not Sprint Corporate.

The Evo on metropcs works great for me for the $40 a month price, though you'll have to get the esn added through houdini in a non-official manner so to speak. Search craigslist and there'll be a ton of adds of people who can add the evo to the metropcs network.

so in other words, yes it's possible as the cdma radio hardware is the same,
however some people who are not lawyers think it's illegal to change the ESN
even though you're not stealing any service.

Protip: Sprint bought Virgin last week. They already had 51% share and decided to purchase.

Virgin does not allow flashed phones on their network (sprint). Now you can flash evo to verizon, cricket and metropc and other verizon based providers. Cricket is nice because for 55 you get android plan with everything unlimited and it runs on network that evo was designed for.

Nothing is impossible in our world.
Anyone out there dedicated and financially capable of trying? lol

xlrdxrevengex said:
Nope would not work. If you really want a evo and your friend will sell you his then you would not need to sign a two year contract. The two is only required for people who buy a new phone or upgrade there phone and do not wish to pay retail price
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You'd be wrong if you sincerely believed this.
Works with $25/month plan perfectly...

Necrosan said:
You'd be wrong if you sincerely believed this.
Works with $25/month plan perfectly...
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so if i went to the virgin mobile website and under swap phone.. i could enter the evo 4g serial number that it ask for.. it would transfer over to the evo 4g then ? i ask because i had a rumor touch and when i got the intercept i just clicked swap phone and enter my SN and went well with he transfer.. now i want to transfer the intercept to the evo 4g.

Deejaydark said:
so if i went to the virgin mobile website and under swap phone.. i could enter the evo 4g serial number that it ask for.. it would transfer over to the evo 4g then ? i ask because i had a rumor touch and when i got the intercept i just clicked swap phone and enter my SN and went well with he transfer.. now i want to transfer the intercept to the evo 4g.
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You had the Virgin Mobile Intercept though, not the Sprint one, right? It doesn't matter that they're technically the same network. They use different databases to check ESN numbers. You'd have to buy an Android phone from them (get the Optimus V, it's cheaper and better than the Intercept) and spoof the ESN of the Evo to match the other phone's. Make sure only one is turned on at a time though or the ESN will be banned, and since they'll have the same ESN neither will work!
Is it illegal? No. You're not scamming anyone. You'd still be paying the same amount of money. Plus, you own the original phone with the ESN you'd be copying, so it's not illegal.

I'm using HTC Evo on Cricket now, and next couple weeks I'll try to make it work on Virgin base on what I did to transfer from Sprint to cricket. Just change the prl ,ip .........I'll see

Google it and I found the prl from the thread called : How to flash a phone to virgin
Good luck everybody .

I think I know what thread you are talking about, does data work on the phone as well as voice?
I've heard of people getting talk and text working but not data, so far with the evo.

Hello, So I have an intercept already and just bought an EVO, how do you spoof the esn of the evo? I really need your help guys! Thanks.

I got the email, but I've never done it.

evo
thanks for the reply. I would appreciate anyone elses help!

houboy123 said:
thanks for the reply. I would appreciate anyone elses help!
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You can find out what the data settings are on howareforums, in a thread called How To: Flash a phone to virgin mobile, but they won't tell you how to change an esn.
Some people thinks it's illegal to change esn # so we aren't allowed to tell how it's done on most forums.
If you look around online and youtube you can find out.
If you end up getting it working let us know.

Paying $10 for 4g? And no 4g on ur area

Why pay $10 extra for 4g? and we dont have 4g in all phoenix az..
How about u guys? What u think about this
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Hey, I think it's crap too. That's why I don't pay for a data plan, but still have a smartphone. Now with Sprint, big RED, and non sim card companies, you're at their mercy.

I currently live in phoenix az. And there is no 4g cover in all phx. Im paying 4 the 4g speeds that i cant use. I think is a waste of my money. It will b better if they charge for it till u get covered...
Is just an opinion.
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Im with u on this. I hate to waste my $$ and i can't use the 4G network. :-(
snd from my htc evo 4g

fennix2010 said:
Why pay $10 extra for 4g? and we dont have 4g in all phoenix az..
How about u guys? What u think about this
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Same deal here in detroit. What irks me is that vzw and tmo have 4g running here.
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Flash to cricket and get unlimited everything for $45/month.

Buff McBigstuff said:
Same deal here in detroit. What irks me is that vzw and tmo have 4g running here.
I know. If only sprint was reasonable with this data plans. But for them is all about money.
And they're hotspot. Wft? 30$ extra. Hahahaha. Only root the evo aand u get free hotspot. Hehe
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snd from my htc evo 4g

Yes i understand. But the 3g connection is not as fast. But is all about the money true? Hehe
bendoe91z28 said:
Flash to cricket and get unlimited everything for $45/month.
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snd from my htc evo 4g

And u get all the goodies. Hehe
bendoe91z28 said:
Flash to cricket and get unlimited everything for $45/month.
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Hate it for you guys... a little...
We (Atlanta) have great 4G coverage, but you'll be surprised how often you actually use it. It can be a real battery killer.
I pay for it with a smile not using it 95% of the time just to have the bad-a** phone...

They are going to start charging it to all smart phones. So it is now a "smart phone" charge and not a 4g charge.

If u have the 4g on all the time how long the btt last?
DreamSQK said:
Hate it for you guys... a little...
We (Atlanta) have great 4G coverage, but you'll be surprised how often you actually use it. It can be a real battery killer.
I pay for it with a smile not using it 95% of the time just to have the bad-a** phone...
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snd from my htc evo 4g

On t-mobile there is a way arround. Only have a android data plan (not lte) and later just get ant lte android. And they wont know. Not sure for how long this will work do...
aimbdd said:
They are going to start charging it to all smart phones. So it is now a "smart phone" charge and not a 4g charge.
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snd from my htc evo 4g

OK, first off, this has been beaten to death.
Second, the policy has recently changed. This fee is now applied to all smartphones, regardless of whether they are 4G capable or not. Sprint always tried to claim that the fee was not a "4G tax," but was intended to cover the costs of rising data usage among users of smartphones -- high end phones in particular, which all happen to also support 4G. Whether or not that was true or fair, that was the policy. But it's irrelevant now. They've changed the policy now. If you activate any smartphone, you pay the fee. So you can't complain about whether or not 4G is in your area in regards to the fee anymore.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...w-about-the-10-smartphone-premium-data-add-on

fennix2010 said:
If u have the 4g on all the time how long the btt last?
snd from my htc evo 4g
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With a weak signal (1 bar) less than 3 hours. Good signal still less than 6 hours. It's been a while since I ran it that hard so I don't know if the new 3.70 update improved that for a stock phone.
I am now rooted with MikFroYo 4.4 ROM and Nerarchy's 4.3.1 kernel and a 3500 mAh battery, and I can go all day with no problems.
I just don't need that often, so I leave it off... May throw a stock battery in tonight and flip it on tomorrow just to see how long she'll last with normal usage under my new configuration...

Thank you! This was never a 4g fee.. It was a premium data fee. Although it's always irked me a little my plan includes "unlimited" data and now I have to pay an extra fee for data :/
bkrodgers said:
OK, first off, this has been beaten to death.
Second, the policy has recently changed. This fee is now applied to all smartphones, regardless of whether they are 4G capable or not. Sprint always tried to claim that the fee was not a "4G tax," but was intended to cover the costs of rising data usage among users of smartphones -- high end phones in particular, which all happen to also support 4G. Whether or not that was true or fair, that was the policy. But it's irrelevant now. They've changed the policy now. If you activate any smartphone, you pay the fee. So you can't complain about whether or not 4G is in your area in regards to the fee anymore.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...w-about-the-10-smartphone-premium-data-add-on
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bkrodgers said:
OK, first off, this has been beaten to death.
Second, the policy has recently changed. This fee is now applied to all smartphones, regardless of whether they are 4G capable or not. Sprint always tried to claim that the fee was not a "4G tax," but was intended to cover the costs of rising data usage among users of smartphones -- high end phones in particular, which all happen to also support 4G. Whether or not that was true or fair, that was the policy. But it's irrelevant now. They've changed the policy now. If you activate any smartphone, you pay the fee. So you can't complain about whether or not 4G is in your area in regards to the fee anymore.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...w-about-the-10-smartphone-premium-data-add-on
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brokentoaster24 said:
Thank you! This was never a 4g fee.. It was a premium data fee. Although it's always irked me a little my plan includes "unlimited" data and now I have to pay an extra fee for data :/
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I am so with you guys on this and with the new policy change we no longer are the only ones getting this charge please you bought the phone and signed a contract you had 30days to return it if you didn't like it get over it

Ur right. But still they shouldn't charge extra to phones withouth 4g or ppl without 4g coverage
Jbcarrera said:
I am so with you guys on this and with the new policy change we no longer are the only ones getting this charge please you bought the phone and signed a contract you had 30days to return it if you didn't like it get over it
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snd from my htc evo 4g

Yea just tether the heck out of your phone...PAYBACk...lol J/K

EvoImage said:
Yea just tether the heck out of your phone...PAYBACk...lol J/K
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I would bet that's why they are charging the fee.
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Be Careful Using Other Carrier PRL's. (Terminated)

Well i know everybody said to be careful but i didnt actually think i was gonna get Terminated... i had the 00001 Verizon Prl and i used about 6gbs a month haha. They got me, but im jus gonna jump on my freinds plan I still <3 Sprint.

Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.

LouSkywalker said:
Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.
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haha yup very true. i jus started my 2 years over too.

Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw

rpnunez said:
Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw
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they didnt say anything about my phone, and no i JUST extended my two year contract for it.

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Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
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They can't ask you for your phone back.

Did they ban your ESN?
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Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR

h20wakebum said:
Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR
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ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price

You should send them a bill for an ETF.
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bahahahahahaha...
Thanks....
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Frohdisiac said:
ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price
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12 months is a good amount of time.
Were you consistantly downloading around 6gb a month (on roam)?
I suspect if you just used this on your phone for normal activites (streaming pandora/web searches/google maps/nav etc...) that you'd probably be good to go.
I only ask because I have HORRIBLE service where I live and found the 01337 prl to be 1000x improvement as far as speed (60681- 10kb/s if lucky, 01337-mod 120 kb/s).
-RR

I'm surprised they don't look into where you're roaming and figure out why it's roaming so much.
if roaming because of PRL(They see great Sprint coverage where you roam) - warn you about it and charge ETF.
If roaming because of no sprint = cut service off as was done to OP.
What if you want to renew with them? Do they add you to some sort of black list?

newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.

Wizard220 said:
Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.
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Well if you want Verizon speeds, then you can go on Verizon IMO. While I love the fact that Sprint has low prices and I'd LOVE if they actually made them into decent speeds, jumping on a different PRL and getting terminated will just be worse int he long run since I don't want to pay for verizon service.

Wow, I honesty don't remember ever seeing anyone confirm that they were booted for excessive roaming. I never change PRLs and hardly ever roam but thanks for letting people know.
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newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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thank you for your presence here on XDA
i'd like to take a minute to mention 2 things.
1. in a contract that takes longer than ONE (1) minute to read, there is no such thing as "clearly stated" and I can't vouch for your colleagues encouraging people to read them. the contract gets highlighted in a couple places and it's a "sign here, here 'n here sur!"
2. there's a clause in federal law where if party B agrees to not do something under contract with party A, and party A does not enforce their contract within X time frame (never knew how long but would love to know), party A has then waived their right to file suit.

h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.

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Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.
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You're telling me.
Just ran a speed test and got 205kbps!!! WOW so fast!!!
Somtimes It's as bad as 10-70 kbps... It's horrible...
Anywho... Gotta hope Sprint will eventually fix their network, I see 6 towers being updated over the next 6 months.
-RR

[Q] After your contract is up...will you be staying on Sprint??

My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me

Phantomg93 said:
My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Yeah I see in your situation staying seems the good option and I don't need 4G either but I wish I could personally see how fast it is compared to 3G you know. And where I live I don't get that great signal nor speeds. I always feel like im on edge with my usual 200kbps down lol

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the whole slow data
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Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave

Jbluna said:
Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave
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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?

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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?
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Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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CrfEpic4g said:
Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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Oh neh my signal inside is actually the same outside as well, except in the basement of course. I honestly can say i've probably seen my Epic hit 1.5mbps down less than 10 times since 5months ago when I downloaded the speedtest app. It's a fun app

Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you

yes

I love sprint. verizon may be faster, but sprint is way cheaper unless you get some kind of discount with verizon. I don't need blazing fast speeds, my wifi takes care of that!

I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).

Mama Luigi said:
I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).
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Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
XxLostSoulxX said:
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
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I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
XxLostSoulxX said:
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
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Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.
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Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.

brad162 said:
Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.

Mama Luigi said:
I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.
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Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.
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And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here

XxLostSoulxX said:
Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here
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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see

Phantomg93 said:
I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see
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My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
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Your probably right who knows

Phantomg93 said:
Your probably right who knows
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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.
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You do know that version of Speedtest never supported LTE yet right? Especially since LTE truly started rolling out around the time the version was made. So im going to say that this video isn't proof of a phone hitting those speeds rather than a simple glitch...For the Evo hell yes that looks exactly like Sprint network speeds haha...