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Just a few questions

I have a cricket flashed Evo I was wondering if one could flash straight talk to it and wonder y when I use a Verizon prl all I get is the bars no 3g and roaming and I have a unactivated doom using WiFi how are u supposed to set up SIP account for calling and textingand y does the browser always close out and is there anyway to tweak the network on my evo its too slow and has anyone got netflix working yet
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That's a really big sentence.

To the one part that is understandable, no, netflix doesn't work. You can browse, but you can't stream.

plainjane said:
That's a really big sentence.
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Lmfao, that a boy way to save some keystrokes.
~ d3rk

Sorry I typed it on my phone, when I type a lot I tend to ignore punctuation.
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A t & t

Why can they surf and talk but we can't? Is it in the phone or what? Can we fix this
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A CDMA limitation, if I'm not mistaken.
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dougjamal said:
A CDMA limitation, if I'm not mistaken.
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That's correct; GSM phones [AT&T as an example] use a different radio for 3G and voice. CDMA [sprint, verizon] use the same radio for data and voice. You can surf and talk if you are using wifi or 4G though.

Because Sprint sucks. :-D. and CDMA sucks too. :-D There are A BUNCH OF limitations on CDMA. Wonder if anyone has a link to all the limitations of it. then also compares GSM and other american based networks. :-D

evohack99 said:
Why can they surf and talk but we can't? Is it in the phone or what? Can we fix this
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You can do the following:
Install grove Ip, set it to use 3g/4g enter ur google voice info, and make phone calls over data, then u can surf and talk same time. Now if u get a real phone call ur call will drop though, unless u set ur phone to ignore calls while using data.

It amazes me what peoplbash on somethinge
They know nothing about. gsm sucks so bad they had to come up with different technology just to get 3g speeds... Which is why they can surf and talk at same time gsm for talk. And a completely different technology for data
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3quad said:
It amazes me what peoplbash on somethinge
They know nothing about. gsm sucks so bad they had to come up with different technology just to get 3g speeds... Which is why they can surf and talk at same time gsm for talk. And a completely different technology for data
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No one is bashing anything I asked a simple question. All I want is a simple answer,,,!
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evohack99 said:
No one is bashing anything I asked a simple question. All I want is a simple answer,,,!
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I wasn't. Talking bout up lol sorry if u thought I was but to clear up at& t uses gsm for talk and text and w-cdma for data which is why they can do both at same time two different radios where as sprint and vzw use Cdma for both talk and data
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Cant we use 4g while talking on the phone? Its a different antenna for both.
3g uses the same antenna as phone calls and can not share the antenna at the same time.
How many times have you made a phone call and needed to surf the internet?

Lol all the time I'm not sure how wimax works with cdma but i kno u can with lte
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so can the photon 4g be able to be on the phone and internet in the same time?

If you are on 4g you can browse and make a call at the same time. When I am on 4g I can actually be on the phone while I run WIFI tether to 2 laptops.

If you can actually connect to 4g, service sucks here in Metro Atlanta.

Well thanks for the responses guys. That's all I wanted to know
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One other senerio. This was great when we had t mobile.
Talking to the wife who was ay the home depot. Snap a picture of the bulbs I needed for her lamp. Mms it to her and confirm she has them without hanging up the phone.
sent from my evo probably at work, probably on the clock.

[Q] What is Enhanced 3G?

So while I wait for LTE service and a phone that can use it, I keep hearing about Sprint upgrading to "Enhanced 3G.
But what do they mean? Faster download speeds? Voice and data at the same time? Is it simply marketing BS?
I'm not finding an explanation of it anywhere.

leebo said:
So while I wait for LTE service and a phone that can use it, I keep hearing about Sprint upgrading to "Enhanced 3G.
But what do they mean? Faster download speeds? Voice and data at the same time? Is it simply marketing BS?
I'm not finding an explanation of it anywhere.
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I don't think is voice and data at the same time because CORRECT ME if I'm wrong someone BUT I believe that's a cdma issue BUT to answer your question......Enhanced 3G is just that, is better 3G! Improved 3G speeds....NOTHING more, NOTHING less!

I believe its the new HD voice service recently announced.

leebo said:
So while I wait for LTE service and a phone that can use it, I keep hearing about Sprint upgrading to "Enhanced 3G.
But what do they mean? Faster download speeds? Voice and data at the same time? Is it simply marketing BS?
I'm not finding an explanation of it anywhere.
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Not to worry... it is a new compression algorithm to get more data packets into the same bandwidth. It should improve the speed of 3G data networks.
It is about 50/50 improvement vs marketing.
See ya'
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Señor Poo said:
I believe its the new HD voice service recently announced.
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No, that's only LTE.

Voice does not transmit over 3g, wimax or LTE HD voice is sent over 1x-Advanced. 3g. WiMax and LTE all are used for data and MMs only, voice and SMS go over the 1x channel, CDMA limits the use of 1x or 3g/wimax to one or the other at a time, once LTE is available when using it you will be able to simultaneously use voice and data, theoretically, since LTE will be using a SIM card for its activation, much the same way VZW LTE works.
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Just to help ^^^^^^^^ I believe the first 'does' in your post is supposes to be a 'doesnt'. Just to help clarify for anyone not making sense of it.
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scottspa74 said:
Just to help ^^^^^^^^ I believe the first 'does' in your post is supposes to be a 'doesnt'. Just to help clarify for anyone not making sense of it.
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Thanks I was typing and feeding my son missed that one or autocorrect got me again damn thing makes my typing all effed up, 90% of my texts make no sense cuz autocorrect will stick some random dumbass word in where it doesn't belong
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You can voice and data over Wimax last I checked
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Naturesretard said:
You can voice and data over Wimax last I checked
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Correct.

wait is sprint finally jumping ship to the much better evdo rev b.? or is it still rev a but updated slightly to make it not as slow?

Its rev.a but with better compression and abackhaul that will allow for about 5x the current bandwidth per tower giving off higher aand more consistent speeds
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Naturesretard said:
You can voice and data over Wimax last I checked
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I've only used wimax 2 or 3x, but it would make sense since it is a separate radio and wimax doesn't handle voice. The biggest benefit to LTE is its going out everywhere 3g is now and should have same or similar building penetration. Hell I live in the country 20 miles from town and 40 from a real city and my towers are scheduled for LTE in phase 2 this year which I was surprised but the whole southwest of my state is getting covered in the same rollout something like 200 towers from Sarasota/bradenton to Naples
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Thanks I was typing and feeding my son missed that one or autocorrect got me again damn thing makes my typing all effed up, 90% of my texts make no sense cuz autocorrect will stick some random dumbass word in where it doesn't belong
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More like autoincorrect.

Brilliancy said:
More like autoincorrect.
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Actually its like automakemelooklikeajackass damn thing has a mind of its own
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Being that Boost Mobile runs on the Sprint CDMA network, do any of you think that this new compression will also improve Boost Mobile data speeds or does Boost have their own network filters to regulate the speeds? Add Virgin mobile to that question too. Just curious.

Señor Poo said:
I believe its the new HD voice service recently announced.
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+1
Side Note at att store yesterday: I was at a ATT store checking out the Salaxy Note and a customer came in to exchange his old blackberry because ATT sent him a letter that ATT is getting rid of their 1x or 2x services. Found that interesting kind of how Sprint is going to upgrade all their iDen NextTel network to LTE.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Voice does not transmit over 3g, wimax or LTE HD voice is sent over 1x-Advanced. 3g. WiMax and LTE all are used for data and MMs only, voice and SMS go over the 1x channel, CDMA limits the use of 1x or 3g/wimax to one or the other at a time, once LTE is available when using it you will be able to simultaneously use voice and data, theoretically, since LTE will be using a SIM card for its activation, much the same way VZW LTE works.
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Are you suggesting that a Sprint LTE phone will have a SIM card?

leebo said:
So while I wait for LTE service and a phone that can use it, I keep hearing about Sprint upgrading to "Enhanced 3G.
But what do they mean? Faster download speeds? Voice and data at the same time? Is it simply marketing BS?
I'm not finding an explanation of it anywhere.
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Im in Washington Dc and I can talk and surf the web at the some time

Awesome new discovery!!!

I just found out our "sprint sgs3" phones can browse the internet/apps/sync and download while "talking on the phone"-while on 3g(wifi off), im sure it works while on 4g lte too, but I dont have 4g lte in my area yet so cant tell..
*maybe old news to some, but new to me*
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I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.

m20120 said:
I noticed this as well and I have taken advantage a few times already. Comes in handy when I am on the phone in the car and I also need to fire up Navigation to get somewhere. That would not work on the Evo 4G unless I was connected to Wimax.
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I don't think car + phone + INTERNET would be a very good idea..
But yes, it's a nice thing to have .

Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3

xTmDarren said:
Yep this also works on the EvoLTE... But this doesn't work on the new Note2.. Another reason to stay with the GS3
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That and the 299.99 price tag for a 16gb
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I believe this is part of the benefit of them switching to 1x advanced... It's nice!
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A little late to the party. It's called SVDO, which allows devices with CDMA radios to simultaneously use voice and data.

My understanding is that only the S3 and EVO LTE have the radios capable of doing this, whereas the Nexus LTE may not.

Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho

tmoney239sucka said:
Gs3 and the Evo LTE has two radios antennas. One for voice & one for data. So I've heard. Let me know if I'm wrong tho
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this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it

Ligerblue said:
this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.

mordbane said:
Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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Verizon can't do it from What I heard
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Ligerblue said:
this, dunno why sprint doesnt advertise it
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Probably cause they dont realize it

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Its not a feature that only Sprint has. AT&T's network has allowed it for awhile. The Verizon version of the GS3 probably can do the same thing.
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AT&T is GSM, not CDMA. Different technologies.

jed_mopho said:
Probably cause they dont realize it
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It's because they don't support SVDO on all towers and during high volumes, data is less prioritized so you may only get voice.

jed_mopho said:
Probably cause they dont realize it
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LMAO I wouldn't be surprised. I don't even bother going into their store to ask questions. Only to look at phones and when I'm approached by someone I tell them I'm fine because 99% of what they say is misinformation or flat out ridiculous. Last time I went I overheard one of the guys telling this lady who obviously knew nothing about phones that she should go with the Epic Touch 4G because the Galaxy Nexus "wasn't that good." Really? It was hard holding my tongue at that moment. Anyways sorry to get a little off topic but just had to let it out.
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Not to be Mr obvious but the real world reason you may be use this while driving legal and safely would be if you had your gs3 mounted on your dash using Google nav and then your phone rings and you answer it on your Bluetooth.... All while Google nav never loosing its map data connection.
I do this all the time
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I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.

rukin1 said:
I just found out the other day you could browser and talk on the phone at the same time. Sprint's first phone capable.
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Actually, the Evo 4G LTE did SVDO before the S3. And I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure there were other SVDO-capable phones before the Evo.

My Galaxy Attain from metropcs can talk and browse at the same time and I got that phone over 8 months ago I'm sure there are a few phones that can do this
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Question about data and phone calls

I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??

boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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Yes
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boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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To better answer/consolidate the above replies:
When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.

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If your on 4g lte you can talk and web browse.
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To better answer/consolidate the above replies:
When you are on 3G data (watching a youtube video, on the web browser, etc) you will still get phone calls, however the data connection will stop to allow the phone call to take place. You will also be able to receive text messages however the data will stop for a brief second (the phone actually goes to 1x for a brief second)
When you are on 4G LTE, you can make phone calls with no problem. The data connection will remain active and you can talk at the same time.
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And if you're on wifi, you can make and receive calls while surfing. It is only the 3g cdma radio that mucks things up.
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boonemeat said:
I'm new to sprint and I forgot about the fact that the network doesn't really support talk and web like att. If I am on the browser will I still get a phone call??
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Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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RayTrue04 said:
Yes you still get calls. Unless you enable DDTM from settings. Which sends calls straight to vm if you're on active data.
There are cdma phones that do talk and surf but unfortunately our Notes is not one of them even though it came out after all the others ones that can! Damn Samsung Retards.. :banghead:
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This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.

Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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Skripka said:
This is not entirely Samsung's fault. This is a 3g CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO being needed....and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that has identical hardware.
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available.
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I explained exactly why in my post. Read it again. It is all right there.
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I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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RayTrue04 said:
I've read a few times and I'm a bit confused. You say it's a 3G CDMA radio tech problem requiring SVDO and Samsung making a multi-carrier handset that had identical hardware. Ok.. Wasn't the GS3 a multi-carrier handset with identical hardware? It handles it fine on Sprint's 3G.
The other thing that has me confused was when you said:
And yes you can talk and surf so long as you either have LTE and 3g available or have wifi and 3g available. Were you referring to the GS3 or the Note? Because the Note can't handle calls and web surfing on 3G.
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See what Mr savoy said. Note2 uses the same hardware across all models... S3 and others used different soc platforms on USA and international handsets.
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Savoy2001 said:
Evdo is part of the qualcomm soc that is in the us variants of the s3 as well as what's used in htc's us version of the one x and Evo4glte. Our note 2 uses an exonos soc and that doesn't have evdo. Period.
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And this is the exact answer I needed to hear. That explains it thoroughly. Which brings me to my next question. Why didn't they go with the qualcomm instead of going backwards? It's like technology advances for CDMA 3G and then Samsung decides to take a step backwards.
Edit: Nevermind I got my answer. Sprint/Samsung sacrificed SVDO for WCDMA support instead. At least that's what I'm getting from researching.
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Thank you all so much for answers! Unfortunately I forgot to check the thread for the answer until after I had the service activated and found out lol.

RayTrue04 said:
You do know the Galaxy S3 can do talk and surf at the same time on 3G right? (Which is a Samsung). So can the Evo LTE, Viper 4G LTE, and a few others.. I would like to know why the Note 2 was excluded!
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It has to do with the processor
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budde2 said:
It has to do with the processor
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Yes I picked that up when researching and people saying is the processor, but sgr4u and a few others speculated it really was put aside for WCDMA support for faster 3G due to the placing if antennas. Which to me makes perfect sense because if Samsung can get LTE to work on their chips what's SVDO to them?
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I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for

PoD_Hazard said:
I wish Sprint allowed for 3G and voicecalls at the same time but but oh well thats what 4G LTE is for
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Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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budde2 said:
Sprint does allow it there are like 3 different devices that do it S3 and Evo lte are two the note 2 just cant thats all unless its on lte
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I was only talking about the Note 2, u basically said what I said haha no worries though
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