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Loose connection using micro-usb connection lead

I've noticed that the connection using the micro usb cable is not snug, if I apply slight leverage to it the charge/connection is lost.
Im a bit dissapointed because I have certainly not pulled on the lead/dropped the device while attached or anything else that might have buggered the plug.
Is there any way I can make the connection snug again, or is this typical for all other devices too.
If this does turn into someting more problematic what are my steps to get it fixed, I brought this phone as an orange locked unwanted upgrade from ebay. fully boxed and sealed. (i.e. new)
Im a bit annoyed because the micro-usb plug is supposed to be more robust than the mini-usb. but to my eyes that not the case, and has proven to be not true either.

I have this issue too. Interested to see if it's a common flaw.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Same problem here. Just got it yesterday. The loose connection is very annoying in that you cannot be sure you left in a charging state unless you unlock it and check the screen. I wonder if it supposed to be that way?
After having posted this, I realize that the thread is not for my phone, a Samsung Captivate. I trusted Google search a little too much I guess. Interesting that the problem is the same.

Same here.
Xperia X10 with a loose connection that got much worse with time. I don't expect a fix for a hardware issue, but I am taking it back to the store for a replacement. The problem is that it has gotten so bad that I can't maintain a connection long enough to get my data!! Not pleased

Jamescousins said:
I have this issue too. Interested to see if it's a common flaw.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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me 3. another thread here t=689367 and here t=692242 (wont let me post full url as noob)
May have to return to T-mobile as its really annoying

I have the Captivate, and I had to exchange mine for one that did not do this.

Yep I started getting this problem a few days ago. Pissing me right off.

can someone tell me if the Samsung captivate and Xperia X10 both have micro-B USB ports also ?

Micro USB Sucks
I have the HTC Incredible and whenever its plugged into my PC you can tell by the audibles (and by HTC Sync failing 1/2 the time) that it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting - especially if you lift the phone or move the cable. So I was just as surprised to hear the MicroUSB was supposed to fix some of the wear and tear issues of MiniUSB - which is just untrue!!!

My HD2 has a loose connection
http://app1.appserver.dk:8080/RepairPictures/servlet/getPic?id=51371
<-- This is the chip. And HTC wont repair it. They say it's my own fault? :S

I've got this problem too with my desire and realised it's the cable. I got my desire on the release date (had it preordered) and the plug on the cable is smooth on all sides so it slips in and outu the phone easily. However, my girlfriend got a desire 2 weeks ago, and the micro-USB plug on her cable has two little spring loaded bumps on it, which gives it a positive "click" when it's plugged into the phone and it takes a lot more force to remove it.
Hence I stole her cable

My cappy too
This problem is happening, albeit not as seriously as some of yours, to my cappy now. I have had it for just under a year now. Looking back I could have been a little gentler with it...
Running Teamhacksung's ICS Build 9.

I've got the same issue - turns out that it's the cable more than anything, as when I plug the in-car charger one (a different cable) in, everything worked perfectly.

terrible design
Every device I or my wife has that is micro USB has charging issues. The design in a laboratory is supposed to get 10,000 cycles. But our experience is that a device after 6 months starts to have issues. Finally after a year about every device must be replace as the charging port is so loose that not even the highest quality cables will stay seated well enough to guarantee a charge or data connectivity. Very disappointed that EVERY phone uses this. Well other than Apple, which I may just have to go to since I cannot afford new phones constantly. The wireless companies KNOW it is a flaw in the design of the port also. Not a one of them will warranty the phone if the issue is the charging port. I am talking clean ports here also. No lint or anything.
Down with micro USB

lukester01 said:
Every device I or my wife has that is micro USB has charging issues. The design in a laboratory is supposed to get 10,000 cycles. But our experience is that a device after 6 months starts to have issues. Finally after a year about every device must be replace as the charging port is so loose that not even the highest quality cables will stay seated well enough to guarantee a charge or data connectivity. Very disappointed that EVERY phone uses this. Well other than Apple, which I may just have to go to since I cannot afford new phones constantly. The wireless companies KNOW it is a flaw in the design of the port also. Not a one of them will warranty the phone if the issue is the charging port. I am talking clean ports here also. No lint or anything.
Down with micro USB
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I agree, micro USB is horribly unreliable across all brands. Too bad I absolutely loathe iOS, because I would consider getting an iPhone if I could run Android on it. Hopefully USB Type-C will be better.

5 data points and a question
First, additioanal data points:
I've had 2 different devices with micro usb connectors and both failed within 3 days of beginning to use them. I can't swear it was the female socket that was damaged but that was my impression. The prongs on the male connector were NOT flattened. I looked for that.
I had another device, a Nook Color I believe it was called, that had a usb charging/data connector that was their own slightly modified design of one of the usb standards. I can't swear whether it was a modified mini or a modified micro but I think it was a modified micro. Anyway the socket was a little deeper than the standard. The idea was that if you plugged in a standard male connector it worked the same way as a standard socket but if you plugged in the longer Nook male connector it went in deeper (I'm straining to refrain from low humor here), additional contacts came into play and it would charge faster. In the Nook case it was definitely the male connector that would break. I replaced the charger twice before the Nook failed for other reasons (I suspect a cat baptised it). If you search the net you'll find a lot of people had the same problem.
So in my case micro-usb is either 2 for 0 if you don't count the Nook, 3 for 0 if you count the Nook once, or maybe 5 for 1 if you count the Nook replacement chargers and charitably assume the last one would have worked for a while if the cat hadn't scented it.
I've NEVER had a problem with large, plain, standard, type A rectangular connectors. I think the idea that the mini is too big is one only Madison Avenue types could come up with. Even the standard type A isn't really too big. After all, how big is a thumb drive? I suspect it has more to do with making it a wee bit cheaper than making it smaller.
So yeah, micro-usb just plain sucks. Assuming Frank's posts in this thread at stack exchange:
electronics.stackexchange dotcom /questions/18552/why-was-mini-usb-deprecated-in-favor-of-micro-usb
aren't fraudulent, Nokia pressured the USB Implementers Forum to accept the micro standard, implicitly against the better judgement of some people involved. I'm therefore inclined to never buy a Nokia anything.
So much for the problem. I'm thinking about workarounds because there is a tablet I'd really like to use that charges through a female micro usb port. If I can't charge the battery it's useless. So I'd appreciate comments regarding the feasbility of these alternatives:
WORKAROUND # 1:
Carefully insert a male-micro-usb-X-female-standard-type-A adaptor into the device and glue them both to a piece of waterproofed luon (very light plywood) and then connect with a cable that has male standard full size rectangular type A connectors at BOTH ends. I've never had any problem with the standard full sized type A and they are easy to replace if I do. Though both adaptors and cables as described, are readily available, it is said that the maleXmale cables can damage equipment in some cases and I'm don't know enough to be sure this is not one of those cases.
WORKAROUND #2:
Alternately I could just glue the micro end of the kind of cable that comes with such devices to the luon and leave the rest of the cable dangling. Downside: Messy dangling cable. Upside: I KNOW it is safe.
Any thoughts on these workarounds would be appreciated.

Could a 3rd Party USB Cable Cause Port Separation?

So I'm on my 2nd EVO, a refurb, since my original EVO had its USB port snap off its motherboard. With this new EVO I'm trying to be more careful, but I've noticed something.
A couple of months ago I purchased these:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/r...zon.com/gp/product/B003PD80X8/ref=oss_product
So I could charge the EVO at work and in the car. I've noticed, however, that they go into the port and come out more securely than the one that came with the EVO, yet with more force needed to insert and remove the cord.
Is it possible that using these cords is what caused my USB port to separate from the motherboard, or am I just being paranoid?
Thanks in advance for your advice!

I wouldn't think so. I had my charger replaced at the sprint store that wasn't an oem evo charger. I noticed that it was a bit more snug though.

Yeah, I'm not sure now. These are very snug, which I'd like to think is a good thing.

Yeah. My oem charger was too lose and would lose connection.

If the cable is out of specification then yes.

How would I know if it's out of specification?

Also, where can I get a proper USB replacement cable?

[Q] One reason to use only the branded chargers?

I have known that battery life has been a long been a problem with Android smartphones, but this wasn't much of an issue for me, as I am almost always within arms reach of an electrical outlet, and now that so many of my friends are on an Android smartphone, we all share chargers.
Well that was probably a bad idea (umm, duh!?!?). I have since used no less than 6 different chargers (HTC stock, LG, Motorola, Samsung, and 2 different generic no-name), and have since found that my charging port has become a bit picky. It now requires a bit of wiggling and and sometimes some sort of careful balancing act to connect to a charger. Not sure which of the different chargers caused this, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this happen?
Also, would this qualify under a warranty replacement, or should I just file an insurance claim?
Any help and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

RoyalTease said:
I have known that battery life has been a long been a problem with Android smartphones, but this wasn't much of an issue for me, as I am almost always within arms reach of an electrical outlet, and now that so many of my friends are on an Android smartphone, we all share chargers.
Well that was probably a bad idea (umm, duh!?!?). I have since used no less than 6 different chargers (HTC stock, LG, Motorola, Samsung, and 2 different generic no-name), and have since found that my charging port has become a bit picky. It now requires a bit of wiggling and and sometimes some sort of careful balancing act to connect to a charger. Not sure which of the different chargers caused this, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen this happen?
Also, would this qualify under a warranty replacement, or should I just file an insurance claim?
Any help and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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I'm pretty sure that is somewhat of a known problem with some Evos. I have seen quite a few threads on broken charging ports and USB not working properly. I have never had the issue, so never actually checked the threads out. If you search on here or google 'Evo broken charging port" or something to that nature, you should find some answers. I'm not sure if that would get your phone replaced in store or if you'd need to file through insurance. Either way, I wouldn't tell sprint that you were using all different chargers on it, although that shouldnt matter anyways.

Im actually on my 3rd. evo. 1st one: the charger/usb port broke "internally" and with sprint TEP i went into the repair facility and they gave me a new one right there! In and out in less than 15mins. That one later fell into a now I have this one which works fine. Point of story... if ya got TEP then take it into the store unless the water stickers are red then your screwed.

Could be just the actual charger, my evo wont charge on my car charger anymore I have to put pressure on the charger port to get it to charge but at home my htc charger (the cable) work and my cable from mono price works to charge it as well.
Use your charger or find one that works and stick with it.

I rooted a friends EVO yesterday that had this problem. He didn't give me his charger, so I used my stock charger on it. On my Evo the charger works perfect. On this one I had to wiggle and jiggle the charger around in the phone and then hold it just right to get it to connect to my PC. It was a real pain in the a** to get it to stay connected and even lost connection a couple times in the middle of the rooting process. Luckily I ended up getting it rooted and installed MIUI and all is well, but yeah this is a know problem with Evo's. I would take it to Sprint and see if they will fix it. Unroot and return to stock first though.

No USB cable? Seriously?

So, I just picked up a Pixel C to replace my Nexus 10, using the developer discount, and I'm really annoyed that I can't get started rooting it yet as I have no way to connect it to my computer. If you're going to put out a device that uses a brand new connector standard, the least you can do is include a cable for those who haven't owned any usb-c devices before. I wouldn't even have minded a straight usb-c to usb-c cable, as unlike most, I actually have a couple usb-c ports on the new PC I recently built. But instead all I get is a dedicated charging cable. Who the hell makes dedicated charging cables anymore???

je55ter said:
So, I just picked up a Pixel C to replace my Nexus 10, using the developer discount, and I'm really annoyed that I can't get started rooting it yet as I have no way to connect it to my computer. If you're going to put out a device that uses a brand new connector standard, the least you can do is include a cable for those who haven't owned any usb-c devices before. I wouldn't even have minded a straight usb-c to usb-c cable, as unlike most, I actually have a couple usb-c ports on the new PC I recently built. But instead all I get is a dedicated charging cable. Who the hell makes dedicated charging cables anymore???
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I can definitely see where you're coming from. You would think with as much as they charge for the C, they could at least throw in a short cable. Fortunately, I have a 6P, which came with a (very short) data cable. I remember people were upset when they found out the 5X didn't come with a data cable either.
IMPORTANT:
Make sure you check out Benson Leung's profile on Amazon to see which Type C cables are within proper specs: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
He even fried his Chromebook Pixel while testing a cable that was not within proper specs. So I would definitely recommend getting one he has positively reviewed.
I personally bought this one he reviewed: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Haven't had any issues with using it on my 6P thus far. Luckily, the prices of these cables have dropped since more companies are making them.

I was annoyed that it didn't have one in the box when I opened it yesterday (I just wanted to unlock the bootloader to get that out of the way), until I remembered I could use the one from my Nexus 6p, albeit very short. Well after one PC refused to even turn on, I tried the other older one and after getting the SDK tools installed, it wouldn't recognize the Pixel in ADB or Fastboot so I gave up and just joined the N beta.
The captive cable is annoying as well. I have the OEM charger that shipped with my 6p, and purchased the 2 port charger from Google before Benson started reviewing 3rd party items on Amazon (I wanted to be sure it would work and not damage anything so I went straight to Google). I actually haven't purchased a charger for work (really don't need to charge my phone at work, just have a charger in the bedroom, living room and car) but I have the Pixel charger here at work now. I was thinking it would be nice if it wasn't a captive cable because then I could charge my phone from my tablet with a double ended USB C cable. Still an option with the cables I have at home, but it would have been nice.
charesa39 said:
I personally bought this one he reviewed: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Haven't had any issues with using it on my 6P thus far. Luckily, the prices of these cables have dropped since more companies are making them.
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+1 for this cable. I got it to use in my car as a charger due to the length and the braided cover. I haven't used it for data transfer/flashing but it's a very good cable and has the same satisfying click as the OEM cable that came with my 6p.

I agree. I too was disappointed that a cable was not included.

Yeah that caught me off guard. You'd think they'd be trying to get as many C cables out there as possible. Every microUSB product comes with a cable even though most people have dozens, but then they dont ship one with a brand new standard...that's shocking.

Hey, you guys are asking a bit much for only $500 +

Yea it does suck but I grabbed and adapter and a cable off of amazon for like $5-10 each, they were here in a few days.

charesa39 said:
I can definitely see where you're coming from. You would think with as much as they charge for the C, they could at least throw in a short cable. Fortunately, I have a 6P, which came with a (very short) data cable. I remember people were upset when they found out the 5X didn't come with a data cable either.
IMPORTANT:
Make sure you check out Benson Leung's profile on Amazon to see which Type C cables are within proper specs: http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
He even fried his Chromebook Pixel while testing a cable that was not within proper specs. So I would definitely recommend getting one he has positively reviewed.
I personally bought this one he reviewed: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Haven't had any issues with using it on my 6P thus far. Luckily, the prices of these cables have dropped since more companies are making them.
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I should have read this thread before I bought a USB cable. Luckily the force was with me and I chose the one you recommended anyway. Arriving today. :good::good::good::good:

Am totally with you on this. I mean for the past x amount of years you have been supplied with charger which doubles as a data cable. This is probably the first device I have owned where you have a dedicated charger.
Also, as a so called development device, I am really surprised they didn't include the usual charger / data cable set up.
This is my first USB-C device, so that makes it an even bigger pain. I am sure things will change over the years, but for the time being its going to be a case of picking up overpriced USB-C data cables / mirco-usb adapters, etc.

Htc One M8 charging port replacement still sporadic charging

The charging port in my Htc One M8 was really loose and barely charging, so I purchased a new port thinking this would solve the problem. At first it seemed like it might. However "new" charging port is just as loose as the old charging port even with a brand new samsung cable when I wiggle the cord I get a charge, so I'm inclined to think that the problem is at the port. Has anyone come across this and solved it?
Thanks!
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Probably you get a faulty charging port, did you try another cable?

Yes, I have purchased 3 charging ports atm, and 2 new cords, the last cord is supposed to be genuine HTC. I also replaced the battery. My third charging port was working great for a time, but now feels like it's 5 years old. I'm really having a hard time with this

This appears to be a very common problem with official and unofficial ports it's just one of those flaws with this phone and a big reason why so many of my friends gave up on this phone.
htc will claim its due to not using official htc cable but that is bs