[Q] updating radio - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got an Incredible off a guy and now want to flash it to cricket.
I have not even rooted the phone yet it's on stock vzw but I saw in hboot the radio is 2.15.00.xx (forgot what), but isn't this the radio I am supposed to supposedly update to? I don't want to flash a radio over this one and brick it, so I am wondering what the deal is, did VZW update their stock radio at some point?
the cricket ROM in dev says to have this radio so I just want to make sure Im all gravy.

Flashing a radio over itself doe not brick the phone. There was only one leak, which was a patch file, that would result in a brick if flashed twice.
2.15.00.7.28 is the stock radio for the Incredible after it's upgraded to Froyo.

najaboy said:
Flashing a radio over itself doe not brick the phone. There was only one leak, which was a patch file, that would result in a brick if flashed twice.
2.15.00.7.28 is the stock radio for the Incredible after it's upgraded to Froyo.
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thanks, so that's what it was then. I guess I don't need the patched radio then and can flash any ROM in the upgrade forum with this radio.

I was wondering about this too... So I can flash whatever radio over whatever other radio I need to and (without the regular risk of radio-flash bricking), be ok-more or less?
Maybe a better way to phrase this is, how do I know if I'm flashing a radio patch, or a full radio file? I have the files from the Radio thread - are those full radio files, not patches?
Thanks!

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[Q] Flashing radios, kernels, firmware after unrevoked forever

I've been reading through the forums since the release of unrevoked forever... Flashed it, I'm s-off and running. I was going to hold off until OTA released, but got bored today and decided to mess around with all of this now.
So today I flashed the 2.15 radio that was leaked to the board. After that, I installed SkyRaider 2.5.2 from Clockwork in recovery, which I believe also flashed a new kernel.
My question is... since unrevoked forever and s-off, I can flash between pretty much anything without issue, right?
I found a stock 1.00.03.04.06 radio flash file on here as well. So I restored back to stock 2.1, and then put the 1.00 stock radio on the root of SD card, booted into HBOOT and it flashed back the stock radio.
Is there any issues with doing this? I got excited to be back on Froyo (did this weeks ago with another version of SkyRaider, the leaked OTA, etc... But then went completely back to stock with RUU, re-rooted, etc)... I just want to make sure that doing this isn't going to cause any issues. I would assume at this point, with s-off, it doesn't matter... But, don't want to mess up the phone.
Also - Can someone on stock 2.1 who is also waiting for OTA confirm my versions?
Firmware - 2.1-update1
Baseband - 1.00.03.04.06
Kernel - 2.6.29-cc1c2268, [email protected] #1
Software - 1.22.605.2
I know from the unrevoked wiki they say that running different hboots, radios and kernels might result in an unstable phone.
Thanks.
If I'm reading this correctly it sounds like you bravely accomplished something that everyone has been speculating and wondering about since Forever was released: Downgrading a radio by simply flashing it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most were afraid to try it for fear of bricking.
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Yes I would like to know also, are you saying that while being 2.2 with 2.15 radio you loaded the 1.x radio img and just flashed it in Hboot? Or did you go through the RUU downgrading method?
Haha... I didn't realize I was being brave. I thought I was just following what everyone else did.
My process was.... On 2.1 update 1 with 1.00 radio... I then flashed the 2.15 radio using HBOOT. It started fine, checked and saw 2.1 update 1 with the 2.15 radio. Booted into Clockwork and did an install of SkyRaider 2.5.2. That was running just fine... But I decided that I wanted to go back "stock" and would wait for 2.2 OTA.
So with that, I found the radio and recovery from on http://adrynalyne.us/. That zip contains just the radio image and recovery (radio 1.00). So with that, I did a restore in Clockwork back to my backup of stock 2.1... Shut down after it restored, booted into HBOOT with that zip of 1.00 radio from the adrynalyne website and it restored back to 1.00 radio.
I did not RUU or anything else. My understanding of s-off was that we could flash pieces one at a time without running into issues... That included radio, kernels, etc.
Everything seems to be running just fine from yesterday through today.
SimonTuffGuy said:
Haha... I didn't realize I was being brave. I thought I was just following what everyone else did.
My process was.... On 2.1 update 1 with 1.00 radio... I then flashed the 2.15 radio using HBOOT. It started fine, checked and saw 2.1 update 1 with the 2.15 radio. Booted into Clockwork and did an install of SkyRaider 2.5.2. That was running just fine... But I decided that I wanted to go back "stock" and would wait for 2.2 OTA.
So with that, I found the radio and recovery from on http://adrynalyne.us/. That zip contains just the radio image and recovery (radio 1.00). So with that, I did a restore in Clockwork back to my backup of stock 2.1... Shut down after it restored, booted into HBOOT with that zip of 1.00 radio from the adrynalyne website and it restored back to 1.00 radio.
I did not RUU or anything else. My understanding of s-off was that we could flash pieces one at a time without running into issues... That included radio, kernels, etc.
Everything seems to be running just fine from yesterday through today.
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So maybe you just made history because I've been trying like hell to get out of someone whether that was possible? From that point you could I guess flash the ota to take you to 2.0 if you wanted? I am not interested in going back to 1.x but maybe 2.0
The following post seems to say the same thing (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7692494&postcount=190)
trombone dixie said:
here's what i did:
my brother has a DInc as well so he let me use his phone to mount my microSD card. I removed the 2.15 radio and put on the stock one 1.00.03.04.06 back on the root of my microSD. put my microSD back in my phone booted holding down volume and power. installed the downgraded version and phone is working again.
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I can't confirm re-installing the leaked OTA that upgrades you to 2.0 radio... But I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I seem to remember a post that warned about constantly flashing radios when s-off first came out though.
I have a new post on the 2.15 radio thread in the development forum for more clarification about going from 2.15 to 1.00, etc.

Evo Unable to downgrade Radio Baseband

Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android:2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband:2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image,but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧!谢谢谢谢!
2.10.0001 radio is non-downgradeable on new hardware models.
Your phone has the new block size that is not compatible with the old radios and the remote not allowed error is because you are not using the eng hboot. Unfortunately it is not compatible as is either.
You can force it to downgrade and I believe I found a way to make it work with the new block sizes, but it's never been tested.
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
snandlal said:
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
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If it doesn't work though you're pretty much guaranteed to be bricked. But if it's a phone you're not worried about I've been dying to find out if this will actually work.
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
snandlal said:
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
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Right on, all you need to do is downgrade to the eng hboot from the hboot and before rebooting or doing anything set 'fastboot -n 4096'
That *should* let you use the eng hboot. You still won't be unable to downgrade your radio though, although afterward it may let you flash the old radios without so much as a warning.
Ok will do. Hboot usb or fastboot usb?
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
snandlal said:
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
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fastboot USB, as I previously said you will probably never be able to downgrade the radio. Sorry but that's just how it is.
Are you able to at least use your phone with the .76 hboot?
its weird.. there should be a way!!
wolfort said:
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android:2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband:2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image,but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧!谢谢谢谢!
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Instead of downgrading so far back, have you tried downgrading the baseband from 2.15.00.11.19 to 2.15.00.09.01? If not, give it a try. You can download it and all of the other EVO radios from the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
UPDATE: Disregard. The original post was dated April 8th.
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If i wanted to go back and try Android 2.1 roms, do i have to downgrade the radios as well?
Trying not to make a new thread but....say if I am using a 2.2 Rom with the 2.15.00.11.09 radio and I want to flash to a 2.1 rom(I'm talking bout far back as the rooted shipped stock ROM from last June. Would I need to downgrade my radio? And does that stock ROM already come prepackaged with a kernel. I'm pretty sure the kernel needs to be downgraded for it to be compatible. When I got my EVO in Sept, I was already on 2.2. Never tried 2.1 but have always been curious to try it and see how much worse it is. Then I could say I've finally tried all three versions of Android on my phone and how far we have progressed
As you've stated, the problem would not necessarily be the rom itself not working with the new radios, but whether or not the default kernel would work properly. Give it a shot. The worst that *should* happen is bootlooping. At that point, you can either reboot into recovery and flash a different kernel or downgrade the radio, PRI and NV. Of course, this is my opinion. You can download the rom from here . By the way, according to the descriptions on the shipped roms, the radios appear to be included.
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just read that i can't downgrade my radio because i'm running the 2.10 HBOOT and on HW003. but if downgrading the radio is not necessarily important to run a rooted 2.1 rom then i don't have much to worry about do i? also, those links you posted: i can flash those RUU's in recovery like i would any other rom? i don't want to go back to stock and be unrooted.
i was thinking of running the 1.32.651.1 rooted rom from Flipzmode, and if need to - download the appropirate kernel link next to it on the detailed ROM wiki thread maintained by Toast.
You cannot downgrade your HBOOT from 2.10 (not necessarily accurate) without a risk of problems, however, you can downgrade the baseband, PRI and NV. I've done it several times. I've downgrade from baseband 11.19 to 09.01. As well as upgrade to 04.08. I've also downgraded my PRI from 1.90 to 1.77 all while having HBOOT 2.10.
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i've downgraded my PRI because of the wakelock issues.
so you can downgrade the baseband to a certain extent? only within the 2.15 radios? but you cant downgrade to the radios that were on Eclair? if i can run 2.1 roms on 2.15 radios then by all means i'm going to try it out. thanks for the info doug

[Q] HTC Desire Radio Queries

Am using radio image "5.09.05.30_2", am considering flashing latest radio "5.17.05.23". Is there a requirement that I need to flash RIL too. Also is there any chances that flashing a radio might brick the device. Currently I am using Insert Coin Ginger sense ROM 1.0.8.
sthbr82 said:
Am using radio image "5.09.05.30_2", am considering flashing latest radio "5.17.05.23". Is there a requirement that I need to flash RIL too. Also is there any chances that flashing a radio might brick the device. Currently I am using Insert Coin Ginger sense ROM 1.0.8.
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Hi, I was originally on 5.09 and went first to 5.14 and then to 5.17. I have never flashed an RIL so I guess it is not a requirement. Having read quite a bit about flashing radios I would say that there is a chance of bricking but it seems that everyone will warn you about this to cover their ass. To avoid bricking it seems you need to make sure that the MD5 check sum is correct and and it should be fine.
Battery life and signal have seemed better since the flashing!

Does it matter which Radio version I have in my DHD?

I have a DHD. I just checked the baseband version and it shows 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M. It has root, s-off and a custom rom (i change roms regularly trying them all to find the right one for me).
I have another stock DHD that I currently use as my daily phone and the baseband version in it is 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M.
Physically both phones are identical just one rooted with s-off and a custom rom and the other straight stock.
I assume the baseband version is the same as the Radio version.
Does it matter what baseband version I have? Will an old baseband version mean some functions in a rom won't work?
When flashing a new rom does that flash the radio as well or does that have to be done separately?
I've read the instructions in the Dev RADIO thread about how to flash but just need to know if it's necessary.
cheers
EDIT: Just one other thing:
Is the radio version more relevant to the kernel or the rom? I often flash a new rom but try different kernels with it.
Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
Radio are region based not rom based. Flashing a rom will not change the radio. Its something you do separately. Changing the radio wont give you that wow factor so if it ain't broken don't fix it. The .03 radio is the old att radio their latest is the .11 some dev's may suggest a radio for their rom but again radios are based on your location. So like If your in the US and dev is in Asia you would not use a radio from Asia.
Changing roms is a pretty simple thing no real risk in bricking phone but changing radios is a whole new ball game in itself with possible damaging phone for good. If you deside to change radio I would suggest to make sure its in pd98img zip form and flash thru hboot not recovery.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
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wow that is interesting. My DHD was locked to the vodafone network in Australia and to get root and s-off I ran the hack kit which I assume put the current radio on it because I am definitely in Australia and nothing to do with ATT.
I know the hack kit downgraded me first so maybe that's how I got an ATT radio.
BTW I thought the safest way to flash a radio was to download the radio.img file and flash it through USB from my PC connected to my DHD?
Yes you can adb it but I myself find it safer the other way.
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Just to add, i have noticed myself with the newer radio i use a.t.m. i have a little better reception (very little).
But is consumes less battery and wifi wont crap out.
But like Reinaldo said "If it ain't broke don't try to fix it"...
thanks for the advice guys.
cheers
I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
Do I assume correctly that if I was to attempt to flash this radio on my DHD that either
A. It would not flash and I would get an error of Incompatible device or something similar
B. I would brick my DHD
C. It would flash and be fine.
Which is the most likely?
If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
cheers
heywheelie said:
I notice that the android-info.txt inside the latest radio Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M only applies to cid number CWS__001. My DHD is a vodafone australia.
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If this radio doesn't work on my DHD what is the latest radio for a vodafone australia DHD?
cheers
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I flashed Radio 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M using the PD98IMG.zip on Hboot.
It works perfect on both Telstra & Vodafone Au:good:
Same here 3 au no issue.
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excellent, thanks guys.
Flashed using bootloader method. Works perfectly. Thanks again for all the help guys.
cheers

[Q] [CDMA] Upgrade to new radio without restoring to stock?

Now that the kernel patch for the new HTC One V [CDMA] radio seems to be widely available, is there a reliable mechanism for updating just the radio without getting the new HBOOT? Can it be done without restoring to the stock ROM?
I want the performance improvements from the new radio, but I'm very leery of losing the option to use the RUU in case of emergency. It saved me when I inadvertently got the radio upgrade before the kernel patch proliferated.
You may update your radio with the first OTA that is 17mb that wi update your radio while still being able to RUU.
The second update that is 73mb is the one with the 1.57.0000 HBOOT that you can't RUU with.
russellvone said:
You may update your radio with the first OTA that is 17mb that wi update your radio while still being able to RUU.
The second update that is 73mb is the one with the 1.57.0000 HBOOT that you can't RUU with.
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Is there a way for me to get and install it without flashing back to the stock One V ROM? I'm currently running CM10.1.
Not that I know of

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