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I'm thinkig Unrevoked team. Should I do Unrevoked3 or forever?
Please any ideas? Custom recoveries or ROMs?
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Unreevoked 3 and forever are two totally different things. Foreverr is now obsolete with the release of 3.2.1. I wouldn't use unrevoked because then you have no idea what root is and how to use it. That's my two cents.

I will be using unrevoked 321 tomorrow to root my new evo. My first evo I rooted using simple root.
I disagree with dkdude36. I did it the hard way when the g1 dream first got rooted. The process is academically enlightening but a waste of time really.
Go for the easy root (unrevoked) unless u have a lot of time to spend learning.

I disagree with jdbiggles...
If you understand how to use a terminal (ADB) and know how to type without error, "the long way" doesn't take more than an hour to obtain root access to your evo!

My personal opinion is to get root with ADB. The things you learn will help you in the future.

Root with unrevoked, as it gives you one step nand unlock and everything. However, if you are not willing to learn ADB and the such, do not root your phone at all.

If this is the first time you have ever rooted an android or HTC device I would recommend doing the "long way", not because it is some stupid right of passage, or that I think you are a dumb n00b if you don't, but because I think that it will help you a lot in the future if you ever run into problems. You don't want to be learning about all this stuff with a bricked phone.
My first experience with rooting / custom roms / adb was with a G1, and then with a Nexus one. This time around, I simply used unrevoked, but that is because I already understand how the process works, and just want to get it done. It is kinda like math class, they make you write it out with pencil and paper, and then only way later can you use a calculator, because if you never did it long form, you would have no idea if the calculator was right or wrong, or any clue of where you made a wrong calculation.
If you run into any problems now or in the future with an android device, you will actually be able to at least sort/solve the simple problems, before needing to post here and wait for an answer, and hope someone posts step by step instructions.

Below are questions I posed in another thread. The root question is apropos to this thread. Can someone please provide me with some direction? I don't mind doing the "manual" way.
Thanks.
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1) Is there now a way to use pattern lock only? The Evo still shows the drag down HTC screen lock even when pattern lock is enabled. I have searched all over, have yet to find a solution.
I don't want to run a custom ROM. Will a root give me some ability to disable the drag-down lock?
I also have a Nexus 1. When I enabled the pattern, the regular screen lock is turned off. That is the behavior I'm looking for with the Evo.
2) Root: I want to root to enable all apps to SD, copy files, enable "reboot", etc. I do not care to run a custom ROM. I don't mind having to re-root after an update. I do not want to wipe my phone. I WANT to maintain the ability to receive future OTA updates.
On the N1 platform, there is an easy root method to allow for this. I get Superuser, can run root apps, but still receive OTA and no custom ROM. I'm looking for the same here.
For the Evo, which method whould support this?
I would very much appreciate any help.
Cheers.
Edit: I know what a generic NAND memory is. In this case, why is NAND protection and why does it need to be disabled? What is "S-On/S-Off". I looked through the guides/FAQ, but haven't been able to find anything. Thanks again.
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I have rooted my G1 before the long way. I understand how it works, just wanted to see if there were better teams to get it from? But I think this clear, unrevoked forever.3. 2.1 doesn't work anymore?
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Rooting without computer?

Hey everyone, just got my EVO tonight, traded up from my Hero, and was wondering if there is a one-click type root method that you can do using only the phone itself? I am quite familiar with the procedures of rooting and Rom flashing with the Hero but need to know my options now. Only reason I even made this thread over it is because I currently don't have access to a computer so if there is any way to root without one I'd really like to know, thanks in advance.

If this can't be done just say so.

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It can't be done. There was a procedure that allowed you to get root but was incomplete (using the OLD unrevoked app on the phone) and was not really root because it required to use the same exploit on boot (not to mention it did not give you NAND unlock and S-OFF). The easiest method right now is unrevoked 3.21 but it requires a computer to run (as well as the drivers for the device).

Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.

joehunni said:
Gotcha, that's all I needed to know. My Evo runs absolutely amazing so honestly I could be happy as-is but I like to keep my options open.
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Good but keep in mind that rooting allows you to keep full nandroid backups (images) of your phone, flash custom ROMs (that remove most, if not all, of the Sprint bloatware), use wireless tether at no charge, flash custom kernels and control CPU speeds depending on the status of the phone and even on the fly, take screenshots of the content of the screen at any point in time and so on...
Just teasing.

Oh I know, I came from a Hero that has run every Rom/kernel combo possible. I'm just saying that with the Evo, out of the box, I'm not left wanting. I will still be rooting and becoming a flashamaniac soon enough though.

Best root for Wireless Tether ONLY? e.g. no custom ROMs

So I've been researching some different root methods, but I haven't really been able to find a specific thread based on what I'm looking for.
I'm looking for Wireless Tether usage a couple of times a month (e.g. when I'm traveling or something like that). This is ALL I want root for. I don't want a custom ROM or anything else.
What is the best root method if all I want is Wireless Tether to work? I don't even care if I have to "re-enable" it from the phone after a boot (e.g. a soft root). I'm trying to stay as close to stock as I can.
Please don't post about loading up a new ROM, I don't want that. I just want a clean, easy root to get wireless tether.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and assistance!

If Unrevoked 3.21 works for you, that would be the simplest option. It's not the least intrusive, but it doesn't require you to re-run it each time you start up your phone.
It doesn't require you to flash a custom ROM.

Noxious Ninja said:
If Unrevoked 3.21 works for you, that would be the simplest option. It's not the least intrusive, but it doesn't require you to re-run it each time you start up your phone.
It doesn't require you to flash a custom ROM.
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Thanks Noxious,
Could you elaborate on the method that is the least intrusive, even if I have to re-run it everytime I startup my phone? I'm assuming I have to re-run it from the phone and not the computer? I'm ok with that - and would actually prefer it if it's the least intrusive.

Also, how much will Unrevoked 3 change my device? Does it automatically load up a new recovery and all that?

I would also like to root for the same thing. How stable is wireless tether. I want to root just to use the wireless tether feature. I have read other forum posts stating it cuts in and out.
Basically I dont want to root if the wireless tether feature is kinda ify.

Can't you simply root and leave the stock ROM with Sense and all, and install Wireless Tether, SetCPU, and whatever else you'd want? Or do you need to have a ROM that someone's already made with all those things added to it?
Personally I'm holding off on Rooting until this 2.3/3.0 update.

actually in my opinion the unrevoked3 method is th easiest. the hardest part about that method is the driver installation. you do need to make sure you have all drivers installed and htc sync installed and then removed before you begin. If not it will hang during the rot process. unrevoked method of rooting actually changes nothing visually except for adding the superuser app(this is an easy indicator of being rooted). and the free wireless tether app from google is pretty much hands down the best. it is the one that most people include in their custom roms here is the apk for the wireless tether.

caguirr4 said:
actually in my opinion the unrevoked3 method is th easiest. the hardest part about that method is the driver installation. you do need to make sure you have all drivers installed and htc sync installed and then removed before you begin. If not it will hang during the rot process. unrevoked method of rooting actually changes nothing visually except for adding the superuser app(this is an easy indicator of being rooted). and the free wireless tether app from google is pretty much hands down the best. it is the one that most people include in their custom roms here is the apk for the wireless tether.
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Thanks caguirr4. Does Unrevoked actually install a new custom recovery?

gadgetluva said:
Thanks caguirr4. Does Unrevoked actually install a new custom recovery?
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yes it does. it will install the clockworkmod recovery. not sure if it is the latest one but it is no big deal. do make sure that you make a backup as soon as you root. have fun buddy.

caguirr4 said:
yes it does. it will install the clockworkmod recovery. not sure if it is the latest one but it is no big deal. do make sure that you make a backup as soon as you root. have fun buddy.
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Are there any root options that don't? I'm just trying to stay as close to stock as possible with just the SU permissions to enable wireless tether. Thanks again.

gadgetluva said:
Are there any root options that don't? I'm just trying to stay as close to stock as possible with just the SU permissions to enable wireless tether. Thanks again.
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None that i am aware of. But you need the recovery to make a backup. You can search the forum some more but I am pretty sure every root method requires some sort of recovery method.
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[Q] rooting, I really...

Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)

There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.

Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks

You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.

Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?

Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.

Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again

No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.

Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first

Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.

You were lucky - better to learn first, do second

I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks

EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!

Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.

Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.

stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far

GoogleJelly said:
Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'

Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...

Need help with rooting an Incredible 2

Hello everyone. I'm looking to root my son's Incredible 2, though I have a couple questions. First, what does "S-Off" mean? Also, what would be a ROM to use? Basically I would like a de-bloated stock set-up. (I want to start him out slow) I've owned a DX in the past and rooted, ROM'd, OC'd, etc to that. Currently I have a Bionic that I have rooted, plus I changed the system version to 893. But seeing how they were both Moto devices, it seems the HTC's are a bit different.....or maybe not? Just looking for a step in the right direction. Thank you in advance for any help, it's much appreciated.

First of all, look at menu>settings>about phone and see which version of Android OS you're running. if you're running 2.3.4 I don't think it's possible yet. I could be mistaken, but yeah. Look up that info and if it's 2.3.3 or older than you should be able to root it via Revolutionary. Just search for that in the forums and you should be on your way.
EDIT: Actually there seems to be a way to do it if you're on 2.3.4 by following the instructions here.
As far as a basic debloated stock ROM, I think that Skyraider and Virtuous would be good options.

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First of all, look at menu>settings>about phone and see which version of Android OS you're running. if you're running 2.3.4 I don't think it's possible yet. I could be mistaken, but yeah. Look up that info and if it's 2.3.3 or older than you should be able to root it via Revolutionary. Just search for that in the forums and you should be on your way.
EDIT: Actually there seems to be a way to do it if you're on 2.3.4 by following the instructions here.
As far as a basic debloated stock ROM, I think that Skyraider and Virtuous would be good options.
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Thank you chattguy, I will check out the OS when he's done messing around with the phone. Also, what does "S-Off" mean? I keep seeing that, even in your signature....just curious. Thanks again, I appreciate the help.

S-OFF is the process of removing the security lock on the bootloader, allowing you to gain root access to the file system of the phone. Your phone needs to be S-OFF in order to root.

ki3t1995 said:
S-OFF is the process of removing the security lock on the bootloader, allowing you to gain root access to the file system of the phone. Your phone needs to be S-OFF in order to root.
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Thanks ki3t1995, much appreciated!

Flazell said:
Thanks ki3t1995, much appreciated!
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No problem! Happy to help!

Skyraider roms are great. They're built on the stock sense roms released on the phone and given the 3.0 make over. Everything works flawlessly. Google "skyraider roms" to find them.
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