Hello.
Bought T-mobile G2.
ROM: 1.22
HBOOT: 0.82.0000
A few questions about flashing:
1. What is the safest way to root device? I read about using gfree as the most stable method (described in wiki). Is that so?
2. Method using VISIONary + - this is essentially the same automated gfree method?
3. Did not understand, always different information - whether it is possible to flash G2 with SIGNED firmware from Desire Z?
Use gfree, as visionary is a different method and sometimes leads people to bricked devices.
You can flash custom rims, but you wont be able to flash official ruus. You'd need to debrand your device, and even then I'm not completely certain.
jKan87 said:
Hello.
Bought T-mobile G2.
ROM: 1.22
HBOOT: 0.82.0000
A few questions about flashing:
1. What is the safest way to root device? I read about using gfree as the most stable method (described in wiki). Is that so?
2. Method using VISIONary + - this is essentially the same automated gfree method?
3. Did not understand, always different information - whether it is possible to flash G2 with SIGNED firmware from Desire Z?
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The Visionary method has been known to brick devices, the safest way (though also the most technical) is the method in the wiki.
You can't flash a stock DZ ROM to the G2 however there are ports of the DZ ROM for the G2 such as Virtuous (see the sticky for all available ROMs).
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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So this morning I decided to root my phone after being a little hesitant at first, I used the rage/hboot wpthis method (from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228). Later today I came across what looks like another method, with gfree with the hboot being optional.
Now I'm worried I might have used an outdated method perhaps. Is that the case? What are the differences between the two methods, and would it be advisable and possible to reverse my previous root and do the new method? How would I go about doing so?
Thanks for any help...
You should do the gfree method, *but* you don't have to reverse your previous work. Just follow the steps for gfree rooting, and skip the steps for temp rooting.
Here's why you should use gfree instead of the rage method:
Gfree actually sets the phone's radio to s-off. So if you ever decide to go back to stock, you can just flash a stock rom right over it. If you tried that with the rage method, you would brick your phone.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
Actually, the full rage guide set my phone to S-OFF as well, but I still installed gfree on my phone just in case.
ibemad1 said:
You should do the gfree method, *but* you don't have to reverse your previous work. Just follow the steps for gfree rooting, and skip the steps for temp rooting.
Here's why you should use gfree instead of the rage method:
Gfree actually sets the phone's radio to s-off. So if you ever decide to go back to stock, you can just flash a stock rom right over it. If you tried that with the rage method, you would brick your phone.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
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Ah okay, though would doing the gfree method with the hboot previously still give me issues if I ever wanted to go back to a stock rom in the future?
Well never tried rage but the gfree method is the safest. Any how i did the first prem-root and s-off method useing visionary and using terminal. The only down side of it is if you wanna go back to stock rom you need to do some hex editing to downgrade and stuff like that.
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Okay so what could I do at this point to get the gfree radio S-OFF on my phone, and so that there is no risk of bricking with putting on official ROMs due to the hboot method?
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blackknightavalon said:
Actually, the full rage guide set my phone to S-OFF as well, but I still installed gfree on my phone just in case.
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This is not true S-Off. It is a fake S-Off achieved through the used of a hacked eng hboot. The Gfree method gives you true RADIO S-Off.
Like ibemad1 said, if you tried to go back to stock by flashing a PC10img with just the rage method, it would brick your phone because it would remove your hacked bootloader, and it would fail to fully revert to stock, leaving you with a nice paperweight.
The Gfree method prevents this from happening and you can flash the PC10img without worries of bricking. In addition, gfree gives you supercid, as well as sim unlocking your phone.
tazz9690 said:
This is not true S-Off. It is a fake S-Off achieved through the used of a hacked eng hboot. The Gfree method gives you true RADIO S-Off.
Like ibemad1 said, if you tried to go back to stock by flashing a PC10img with just the rage method, it would brick your phone because it would remove your hacked bootloader, and it would fail to fully revert to stock, leaving you with a nice paperweight.
The Gfree method prevents this from happening and you can flash the PC10img without worries of bricking. In addition, gfree gives you supercid, as well as sim unlocking your phone.
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So if you used Rage first then ran the last part of Gfree to turn Radio S-off would that make it okay to flash stock without bricking
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Yes ,if you only have the "fake" S-OFF via the eng hboot, I strongly recommend you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF. This is a *lot* safer, because if you flash a stock ROM with only the "fake" S-OFF you can easily semi-brick your phone.
It is a lot harder to mess things up with full radio S-OFF via gfree. See the Wiki for full details.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
Just to ease my mind....
I used the rage method to root my phone in december. I can now use gfree to get true s-off by simply installing it on my phone and running it?
Is this correct?
Lol i used the very 1st method by unforgiven and for month i have no issue
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I've read around the forums and seen some somewhat odd solutions to this problem, and wondered if I've simply missed something or it's the only solution to this problem.
Simply, I have a 1.32 perm-rooted phone and I would like to upgrade to the latest update (rom and radio) while keeping my root access. I don't want any of the custom roms, I just want the plain vanilla update plus the latest radio updates because they seem to improve things (being with Vodafone in Australia I need all the improvements I can get!).
Alternatively, what is the custom ROM that is closest to the standard one which meets the above requirements (latest update, latest radio while keeping root access)?
As I said, I already have root access, ClockMod recovery plus S-OFF. Do I need the ENG one to do what I need to do? I've seen the one-click tool for this but haven't bothered because I wasn't sure it was entirely necessary.
Thanks,
Ian
Get ENG S-OFF using my tool, flash Raidroid stockify series ROM via ClockworkMod and flash the radio you want using radio flash guide instructions.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
jkoljo said:
Get ENG S-OFF using my tool, flash Raidroid stockify series ROM via ClockworkMod and flash the radio you want using radio flash guide instructions.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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+1. Very easy to do.
jkoljo said:
Get ENG S-OFF using my tool, flash Raidroid stockify series ROM via ClockworkMod and flash the radio you want using radio flash guide instructions.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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Had looked for a "plain" ROM that didn't have any change to it, this set slipped under my radar. Thanks for the pointers, will do those things when I get a chance.
Hello,
I have a Desire HD, and I am looking to root, however, I have some concerns,
(I'm hoping that a list is not too boring!)
1. I have the 1.72 update
2. I have no idea, whatsoever on how to back up my current config, without rooting my device (and possibly loosing everything)
3. How to root using visionary? ....
4. Installing ROM When finished?
5. Is there some sort of start to finish n00b proof guide?
Thanks,
T
Hi,
you're on 1.72 so you need to downgrade first.
Follow this excellent guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
After this you have 1.32.405.3 Stock firmware and you're able to root using visionary+.
Ok, so after that, could i install MIUI First, straight off?
Or do i have to go to stock first?
After downgrading and rooting, you have to set ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF and then you can flash MIUI.
Please read the guides @ Android Development Forums.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
Hi guys,
i rooted my HTC Desire Z and wanted to remove root? i was wondering if it is possible and how it can be done?
Mohammed Shouman said:
Hi guys,
i rooted my HTC Desire Z and wanted to remove root? i was wondering if it is possible and how it can be done?
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Use this link.
blackknightavalon said:
Use this link.
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This link is first of all for the G2 and not the Desire Z and it is rather old.
But the principle is the same.
- Get a stock rom RUU file that fits you phone. See http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision
The version of the rom that you select should be equal or higher to the last stock rom that you had installed.
- Install the RUU file from Windows
This will bring everything back to stock and remove root.
But the phone will still be S-OFF and Super-CID because the rom does not change the radio config partition.
If you also want to remove S-OFF you have to use gfree again and set secu_flag = 1 and the CID to your original CID (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#radio_S-ON_and_original_CID for a guide on how to do this.
But the problem is, that you can use gfree to restore S-ON and CID only on the Desire Z stock rom version <= 1.34. So you will have to do the downgrade procedure again. Then do the gfree restore and then install the stock RUU that you would like to have.
have fun - Guhl
guhl99 said:
This link is first of all for the G2 and not the Desire Z and it is rather old.
But the principle is the same.
- Get a stock rom RUU file that fits you phone. See http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision
The version of the rom that you select should be equal or higher to the last stock rom that you had installed.
- Install the RUU file from Windows
This will bring everything back to stock and remove root.
But the phone will still be S-OFF and Super-CID because the rom does not change the radio config partition.
If you also want to remove S-OFF you have to use gfree again and set secu_flag = 1 and the CID to your original CID (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#radio_S-ON_and_original_CID for a guide on how to do this.
But the problem is, that you can use gfree to restore S-ON and CID only on the Desire Z stock rom version <= 1.34. So you will have to do the downgrade procedure again. Then do the gfree restore and then install the stock RUU that you would like to have.
have fun - Guhl
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Awesome, this is exactly what I was looking for.
The only question I have is: when you say use the RUU from windows won't this brick or semi-brick my phone? I'm just asking this because I read a lot of posts about flashing a stock rom with root and don't (obviously) want to end up with a brick...
Cheers
A friend of mine is asking me to root his phone and install CWM to flash a stock gingerbread rom he currently using stock Froyo.I have not flashed recovery on Htc before i have experience in flashing rom on Motorola Atrix. So I want ask whats the procedure for installing roms on htc because on atrix i had first unlock the bootloader to flash recovery for flashing rom. Is the bootloader of htc desire Z also locked if yes how can i unlock that and whats the method of rooting the phone.
Also recommend me good stock ginerbread CWM rom that i should flash after flashing recovery.
Thanks
Yes, the bootloader is locked. You need to root and “s-off” the phone. I think this guide is up to date (correct me if I’m wrong):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
What do you mean by “stock gingerbread CWM rom“? You mean stock ROM without any modifications flashable through CWM? You can choose the appropriate RUU for your area here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19101396
and create a flashable zip using Android Kitchen.
Or you can choose some other ROM, look here"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
PS: Don’t be afraid to use the search function. That is all you need, believe me
yes i did use search but found nothing about bootloader and for rooting their various method.
shared_ptr said:
Yes, the bootloader is locked. You need to root and “s-off” the phone. I think this guide is up to date (correct me if I’m wrong):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
What do you mean by “stock gingerbread CWM rom“? You mean stock ROM without any modifications flashable through CWM? You can choose the appropriate RUU for your area here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19101396
and create a flashable zip using Android Kitchen.
Or you can choose some other ROM, look here"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
PS: Don’t be afraid to use the search function. That is all you need, believe me
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
This tutorial is for 1.72 and the set that i am trying to root is 1.82 . Is there any method to root 1.82
terminator1983 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
This tutorial is for 1.72 and the set that i am trying to root is 1.82 . Is there any method to root 1.82
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if you want true soff when you root your phone you will need to downgrade furter, the exploit will not work with every version of froyo
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
demkantor said:
if you want true soff when you root your phone you will need to downgrade furter, the exploit will not work with every version of froyo
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
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Whats the difference b/w the S off given in tutorial and true S off.
terminator1983 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
This tutorial is for 1.72 and the set that i am trying to root is 1.82 . Is there any method to root 1.82
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It doesn't matter if you have 1.82 or 1.72, you still need to downgrade to 1.34
Maybe this guide will help you more:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
Remember, you cannot skip the step "Downgrade to an exploitable Firmware"!
Also you should have some ADB experience and you should be familiar with command line tools.
Good luck!
shared_ptr said:
It doesn't matter if you have 1.82 or 1.72, you still need to downgrade to 1.34
Maybe this guide will help you more:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
Remember, you cannot skip the step "Downgrade to an exploitable Firmware"!
Also you should have some ADB experience and you should be familiar with command line tools.
Good luck!
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The device i am trying to root is with cid htc__044 for which i have to make a goldcard and the tutorial given in downgrading thread is of bell DZ is steps given for debranding same for all DZ version or i have use any other method to debrand.
terminator1983 said:
The device i am trying to root is with cid htc__044 for which i have to make a goldcard and the tutorial given in downgrading thread is of bell DZ is steps given for debranding same for all DZ version or i have use any other method to debrand.
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You need only to create a GoldCard. Follow only the first part - "Part 1 GoldCard" from the guide "Debranding Bell Desire Z".