Scratched Screen - Defy General

I'm a bit disappointed in the gorilla glass used in my Defy. I've had the phone for a little over a month and haven't abused it, but last week I noticed a squiggly hairline crack about a 1/4 of an inch long and it has slowly gotten longer since I first noticed it. The day that it happened it was in my pocket with my keys and may have been subjected to some pressure, but nothing significant.
Since this is supposed to be a scratch-proof phone do you think there is any way I can get it replaced under warranty? I purchased it new from T-Mobile just over a month ago. Either way, I'm very disappointed that it scratched so easily.

I have read of a few instances where people where able to have their phones replaced due to the glass scratching as it is marketed as a scratch resistant phone.

It is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, nevermind crack.

ABC_Universal said:
It is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, nevermind crack.
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Exactly right.
For the glass to have cracked, there must have been a fair amount of pressure applied to it and there's no way Motorola or anyone else is going to accept responsibility for that.
As for scratch resistance, I've taken a stanley knife to a Galaxy S (also has Gorilla glass) and there was minimal scratching, very difficult to tell it had been 'attacked'.

My GF managed to scratch her Defy within days of getting it. Just by keeping it in her handbag with all the usual girlie junk. It lives in a protective slip case now!
R.

dicko99 said:
My GF managed to scratch her Defy within days of getting it. Just by keeping it in her handbag with all the usual girlie junk. It lives in a protective slip case now!
R.
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My wife managed to scratch mine after borrowing it for 2 hours whilst shopping! I may try returning to Vodafone store and see what they say.

No Diamond rings in her bag
dicko99 said:
My GF managed to scratch her Defy within days of getting it. Just by keeping it in her handbag with all the usual girlie junk. It lives in a protective slip case now!
R.
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The treatment gorilla glass goes through in the manufacturing process makes it ever so slightly more prone to cracking/spiderwebbing if dropped. You can not have scratch proof AND shatter proof.
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Well you could, it's just that then the glass wouldn't be clear.

and wouldn't be called "glass".

I noticed a small scratch from being in my jean pocket. I think those sands particles that were used to sands blast the jeans scratched against the screen. Anyhow it was at d2 of the ownership so I just got exchanged for a neW phone. Lesson learned and now I have a screen protector plus phone case.

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So called Gorilla Glass

To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
man... although a simple glass wont scratch with nothing in your pocket..
Maybe someone touched it when you didnt know, or something happened.
I've been using my vibrant for about three weeks now and have no scratches, only some marks on the battery cover.
The samsung vibrant does indeed have gorilla glass. Just because it has gorilla glass doesn't mean its un -scratchable. It just means it's more resistant than regular glass...if you don't mind me asking...what did you have in your pockets? A machete? A light saber?!...I kid, I kid...the morale of this story is, get a screen protector, prevent your vibrant from getting scathed by a light saber!
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whether it has Gorilla glass or not, this is the FIRST phone that ended up with deep scratch only after a month of use.
I really dont care, i got it replaced and finally bought screen protector that i really like. (anti glare and anti fingerprint)
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
j0hnZ said:
Have you seen any video's posted, I'm interested n anti-glare and anti-fingerprint but with the realooks you can't really tell its on style. I know, it's probably a lot to ask for.
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with anti-glare and anti-fingerprint you will always tell that its there. i personally dont like reflective screens or screen protectors so my anti-glare and anti-fingerprint work great.
lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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lol. this phone isn't fragile, you must have done something. no way the phone got scratched being in a pocket with nothing else in it. unless you walked that pocket into the corner of a desk or something...
my phone's been without screen protector or case since release with no scratches or blemishes.
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+1 not a scratch.
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
that sucks man, i would be pissed too.
but what did it get scratched on? must have had something in your pocket with it...?
AlexSochi8 said:
To clear rumors or to be very specific!
I took off my t-mobile screen protector yesterday and to day discovered a deep scratch on the "gorilla glass"...
To be very clean. Im very very verrrryy careful with my electronics and never damaged any in anyway! But its how how people say you can stratch it with keys or pens or put it in a bad with bolts and screws and the glass wont be scratched.
It false advertisement because i had my vibrant in an empty pocket fresh dry cleaned too! no dust and anything inside to cut it.
I had many average phones where i only got a tiny scratch on the screen from the phone falling from my hand after 2yrs of use and landing on concrete...
its funny how this glass gets scratched up very deeply without being dropped or scrapped at! and its a scratch for sure because when i move my thumb on it pressed i can feel the sharp line of the scratch on my thumb
Maybe there is a big misunderstanding, maybe only euro galaxy S phones have the gorilla glass... because this sure doesnt!
So for those who want to go naked!!! DOOOOOONT! buy a screen protector!
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Interesting post...I'm actually a screen protector freak and have ordered multiple brands of screen protectors for the Vibrant (actually even Galaxy S just to try it...) so I'm all FOR screen protectors...best one so far is from Korea.
About your scratch...unless there's a scratch fairy, there is SOMETHING that caused that scratch. It may be foreign to you because you may not have known when it happened...It's highly possible someone else without your knowledge was the cause of it. Scratches just don't appear out of thin air...
Bottom line...the glass on the Samsung is solid...very solid...I've dropped my phone before so I know first hand how durable the glass is...it's some tough $#!t....
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Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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Its just the way of the world. If you put a screen protector on, soon after you take it off your will get scratched.
If you put it in a case, soon after you take it off you'll drop your phone. Call it karma, or just dumb luck, but it always seems to happen this way
PaiPiePia said:
Real Gorilla Glass takes alot to scratch. The ZuneHD is known to have the Gorilla Glass. My ZuneHD has been naked since the day I brought it and today it is still scratch free. It is possible our Samsung Vibrant does not have the Gorilla Glass as part of carrier modification to cu cost. who knows.
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If someone can do a key test we all can find out for sure
I've put this phones in my pocket with keys many times, dropped it several times, not a scratch yet. Whatever it's made of, it's pretty tough.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
I don't use a sp, but my phone still looks brand new.. No sp, no case, usually keep my phone in my pocket when walking around. Screen is still smooth a glass. Could samsung have used different materials depending on when it was built, kind of like the problem with the shortage if amoled screens?
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I actually dropped my phone on one of those concrete roads in a way that send the phone sliding on the concrete several feet face down. All 4 corners of the phone's bezel show scratches but nothing on the screen itself.
Goog1e Phone said:
People should seriously invest into realook, it's only ten bucks and you won't even know it's on. But don't take my word for it or the other hundred posts here on xda that claim the same thing.
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I agree 100%!!!!
I put my first one on backwards and complained to them about not having standard directions. (You take the plastic covers off in reverse?) I did not read the instructions, but they still sent me three free new ones.
Great company, great screen protectors.
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just to say this... like many people who were surprised by vibrant getting scratched so easily... Im on of them too! Because in theory if it has gorilla glass its suppose to be a lot tougher than average glass! I understand its not un-scratchable but it deff got scratched very easily being that i had nothing in my pockets! and that whenever it did recieve that scratch it wasnt from something really bad because i would of noticed it... since the phone is around me all the time!
So if any kind souls who believe this is a gorilla screen please demonstrate it for us on a video.... Take a key and scratch it the glass around and we'll see then....
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I would never personally do this, and a 3 dollar screen protector to protect the integrity of a very sweet piece of equipment, is a very small price to pay.
I just find it hard to believe that with only cloth surrounding it it got scratched. Not even lint in your pocket? I call BS
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Gorrilla glass broken :D

Dont tell me that defy is shock proof n gorilla glass is unbreakable!!!!!!!!!!!!
i Just broke one
lavans4u said:
Dont tell me that defy is shock proof n gorilla glass is unbreakable!!!!!!!!!!!!
i Just broke one
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Gorilla glass is not unbreakable. Its harder to break then normal glass. Defy is shock proof up to a limit. If your phone falls exactly on the glass there is a big possibility that it will break.
...not broken, but I managed to scratch it.
Bought and few days later, i've noticed very few little tinyhair scratches and 1 deep (a fingernail feel it) 2mm long. just in the middle.
I run with my phone in my pockets but i really take care of it (it was in a sock). I don't know how and what managed to scratch it, but now i have a Brando Screen Protector on it.
When i'll remove it, i'll try fix the scratches with the cerium-oxide polish-method.
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...not broken, but I managed to scratch it.
Bought and few days later, i've noticed very few little tinyhair scratches and 1 deep (a fingernail feel it) 2mm long. just in the middle.
I run with my phone in my pockets but i really take care of it (it was in a sock). I don't know how and what managed to scratch it, but now i have a Brando Screen Protector on it.
When i'll remove it, i'll try fix the scratches with the cerium-oxide polish-method.
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that's happened to me too, just some little scratches by the way. However, is it safe to use a polish method?
I kept mine scratch free for a year until my girlfriend started playing with it.
Now I can't count how often it has fallen to the ground.
Kaffeekranz said:
I kept mine scratch free for a year until my girlfriend started playing with it.
Now I can't count how often it has fallen to the ground.
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Same here .. except mine was safe for just 2 months!
lavans4u said:
Dont tell me that defy is shock proof n gorilla glass is unbreakable!!!!!!!!!!!!
i Just broke one
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Mine also broken exactly on the opposite direction, like this '\'.
Okay.....so you broke the glass . What else ?
Herpderp iPad2.
No I don't care if you're anti-Apple.
Glass is hard but nobody told it's not fragile. Do not confuse the two concepts.
isn't it advertised as scratch proof??
I'm very careful with my mobiles ^^
& I was quite peeved after having owned my Defy for 6 weeks to find a scratch on the screen!?
I'm guessing it's happened when ph slipped out of pocket while driving car & slid down side of seat
life proof my r-iss
King_Rat said:
isn't it advertised as scratch proof??
I'm very careful with my mobiles ^^
& I was quite peeved after having owned my Defy for 6 weeks to find a scratch on the screen!?
I'm guessing it's happened when ph slipped out of pocket while driving car & slid down side of seat
life proof my r-iss
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Some are, some aren't, it's a strange thing :/
My defy+ has 2 scratches, very very small ones, while my brother's one has none, even though I take better care of mine. Both bought at the same time, 2 months ago. Strange thing
I'll say just this - SCREEN PROTECTOR ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_protector
Screen protector all the way
I used my Defy for 2-3 weeks without screen protectors and i got no scratches. I know i am heavy user i put a screen 3M Screen protector. My old HTC Diamond got so many scratches it was a pain to watch it and i really looked after it.
I knew as it had no resistant glass it will become like this. In the Defy i saw a major improvement.
But I can say money well spent with the screen protector. I ripped it off and scratched it badly. As it has a year and a month now i will change it. It lasts 1 year and for 10-15$ i can say it's money well spent.
So my advice: install a 3M, Invisible Shield etc. screen protector. The branded ones have a perfect fit and some technology invested in them. Also scratch resistant certification.
how exactly u broke it?
just to make sure i don't do it
price?
How much costs to u to replace the broken Gorilla glass with a new one?
Did u bought the glass from ebay?

How Strong Is The HTC Evo 4G Screen?

Just got a HTC Evo 4G last week. I've had it in the Otterbox Defender case since day one. Lately, I've been trying to find a screen protector that covers the whole face of the phone. I've been unsuccessful in doing that. But, a guy was telling me that without a screen protector, the Evo's screen is hard to scratch. He told me that if I kept the phone in the Otterbox (which has a screen protector of it's own), that the phone would most likely never scratch.
Is there any truth to this?
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Just got a HTC Evo 4G last week. I've had it in the Otterbox Defender case since day one. Lately, I've been trying to find a screen protector that covers the whole face of the phone. I've been unsuccessful in doing that. But, a guy was telling me that without a screen protector, the Evo's screen is hard to scratch. He told me that if I kept the phone in the Otterbox (which has a screen protector of it's own), that the phone would most likely never scratch.
Is there any truth to this?
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Gorilla Glass is used for the Evo's screen and it's super durable. I used to use a screen protector (which ended up getting pretty scratched up), but I've been going without one for about 6 months and my screen is fine. I guess I really never needed the screen protector in the first place.
Thanks for the answer.
Where does it say that's the Evo's screen is gorilla glass?
I've never read that anywhere.
It certainly may be difficult to scratch but that doesn't make it gorilla glass.
@op
My brother had his evo in the otterbox and some sand got in between the screen protector and the screen and it wreaked havoc. It was extremely scratched...
You can buy some cheap screen protectors on eBay for a couple bucks.
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a senile fungus said:
Where does it say that's the Evo's screen is gorilla glass?
I've never read that anywhere.
It certainly may be difficult to scratch but that doesn't make it gorilla glass.
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Gorilla Glass website here under HTC
The EVO 4G, EVO 3D and EVO Shift all are listed.
I didn't know that it was Gorilla Glass for the first year of owning my EVO, but was relieved when I found out. Since then, I've been going without a screen protector.
strong enough?
One of my friends got into a motorcycle accident with his EVO in his pocket, and the phone was literally curved like a C shape from the impact, the screen was all cracked, but still continued to function okay... haha
I landscaped all summer and my Evo screen was scratched pretty badly. Don't let anybody tell you that an Evo screen cannot be scratched.
Pretty Damn Strong!
I've dropoped my phone four times and all Ive done is ding up the sides but I will say you can't throw it at a pole I tried and the screen did not succeed I was out a hundred dollars for insurance payment. THe evo is one strong phone that just keeps giving.
Well, I wasn't asking this because I planned on using my EVO for anything extreme. I asked to see whether or not putting a screen protector on while using an otterboor a ballistic case was a big deal.
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Well, I wasn't asking this because I planned on using my EVO for anything extreme. I asked to see whether or not putting a screen protector on while using an otterboor a ballistic case was a big deal.
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I would say in the end it depends on what you do with your phone. I keep mine in my pocket (not with my keys or change or anything that could scratch the screen) most of the day and am mindful about where I set my phone, so I go without the screen protector.
If your phone is more exposed to things that will scratch it up, then I'd say grab a screen protector.
My wife keeps a screen protector on hers, since she keeps hers in her purse and it tends to get jumbled around with her keys and such.
The screen is tough and scratch resistant, but not scratch proof. You'd probably be safe from light scratches.
I have dropped mine numerous times and the screen has held up longer than then case.
Screen is strong lcd is not, punched the **** out of it one time the glass was fine LCD shattered.
The evo 4g's screen is strong!! I ran my evo over (by accident of course) and the screen DID crack but it worked perfectly fine! The evo will last under all basic drops, bams, and ninks lol!! There isn't a cellphone out today that can last under extreme conditions like being nuked, motor accidents, being fired at upon a firing squad, OF COURSE lol
I wonder if the Gorilla Glass is only on the newer hardware spec models since I don't remember this being mentioned when I bought mine shortly after release. that site quoted also lists the Epic 4G which my wife and daughter have and I notice that theirs also seems to be more reistant to fingerprint smudges, while my OG Evo needs a wipedown after any use at all...
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My brother had his evo in the otterbox and some sand got in between the screen protector and the screen and it wreaked havoc. It was extremely scratched...
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Sand = quartz = lots of tiny EXTREMELY hard crystals with very sharp edges
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Sand = quartz = lots of tiny EXTREMELY hard crystals with very sharp edges
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Exactly.
That is why it might behoove somebody like my brother to have a screen protector underneath the screen shield on his case.
PS thanks for the science lesson ;-)
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Sand is actually silica not quartz, some sand is up to 90% calcium from coral skeletons but over time that calcium becomes silica
Edit: BTW silica heated and pressed/rolled = glass that's why sand will tear the hell out of glass its fine rough edged and very hard at that size silica crystals are very hard compared to most minerals not quite as hard as diamond but on the upper middle of the scale
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Dropped mine out of my shirt pocket last night like ive done probably a hundred times, only this time the screen cracked. Surprised me because ive dropped from higher up on harder surfaces. Mine survived a lot of beatings without anything
Also only ever got one scratch through it all and my keys were the culprit. Had my Evo for about year
About a month ago I dropped my phone from less then 2ft off the group. Completely shattered the entire screen. Thankfully my Zagg kept all the tiny peices together and it worked without a hitch. 50 bucks later and I had a new replacment in and I did the swap myself. This new glass feels more durable.
It however is *NOT* Gorilla Glass.
I've thrown mine at walls with a thin rubber backing and it's never cracked o.o

Scratches on the screens glass

Does any one had scratches appearing on the screens glass of the Galaxy Nexus?
, few days back i have noticed one noticeable scratch on the screen , strange as i am treating my Nexus very carefully.
My galaxy S which has the gorilla glass never had scratches and it is now more than 6 months old.
Little bit disappointing as it is very new phone with couple of weeks use. who know if there will be more scratches in the future!! Hope not
Just dropped mine 5ft to the pavement landed face first and the battery cover came off. It's still flawless I don't know how but it is.... I was expecting it to be cracked but I'm pretty impressed!
Yeah, I've got a few scratches. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364252
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I have mine in my pocket all the time and it's perfectly fine,not even one scratch.
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
Yea my original G2x had 2 tiny micro scratches on it. Not noticable unless viewing a white background, more commonly when viewing webpages before they fully load.
The LG Updater bricked mine and got an exchange. Haven't had a problem with my new one but just goes to show.
catpunt said:
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
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Wise advice here, but nobody sells screen protectors for the nexus where I am. I've ordered some online and I'll be taking it to a professional to get stuck on (every time I do it I leave bubbles; yes I've watched numerous instructional videos alas I cannot do it) - I've only ordered three protectors, hopefully that is more than enough.
All the screen (even Gorilla) would have chance to get scratches...
always get a screen protector for your couple-hundred phone
Yeah I'm gonna have to get some too. I always take extreme care of my phones (whether in my pocket or out) and it already has a small, yet noticeable scratch on the bottom. Definitely need a ZAGG or the like
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
I've been rocking my Incredible since day one without screen protection and it's still mint. (besides a complete crack in upper right corner (in an area that is beyond the display) from one of the worse drops, which was more of a drunken throw). I really hope that the Nexus can handle my lifestyle, but sounds like this thread is reporting mixed reviews. I refuse to wear a condom so I hope I get one of the good ones...
p.s. I surf alot in the summer and sand all over but still no scratches. I guess it has to hit with the right angle and friction???
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I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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One grain of sand or salt + friction (i.e. pocket) and even the Gorilla Glass 2 on the RAZR gets scratched.
You can run a key across the screen all day long, but it only take a granule of something to etch a deep scratch.
If u get a decent screen protector and install it well (I know it ain't easy) it will look/feel as good as the naked glass, and then u dont have to worry - and in a year when u pull it off, the glass will be PERFECT. Small price to pay. The Galaxy Nexus is so thin that with a slim TPU case it's still crazy thin, and you will keep it in perfect condition
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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kojaraty said:
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm sorry to say, but you should have ordered the SGP Flex instead. The Ultra Oleophobic ones don't extend to the edge of the screen, because they use the dry adhesive method, and if they went right to the edge of the curved screen they would peel.
Frankly, it looks pretty ugly having a band around the edge that's not covered. Plus, because they don't extend to the edges, it's much more noticeable if you get it off centre.
As mentioned in the other thread i have a couple of tiny scratches after 3 weeks of use and never ever putting anything else in my pocket with it. Disappointing.
vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Couldn't agree more. I was the same way with both my Fascinate and now my charge. Neither device has gotten a single scratch.
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vapotrini said:
3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Sand will scratch sand will scratch sand will scratch sand. What do I mean by that? ALL glass (including Gorilla Glass and its differently arranged superficial crystalline structure) is the same molecule- SiO2 or "silica." Is there variation within silica? - yes, but minutely.
[good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness Geology and Mineralogy have huge unrealized relevancy in everyday life- just like under-appreciated physics] The variation will not give silica the hardness of say, "topaz" (at 8 on the scale), but rather is usually due to impurities (additional minerals) that weaken it down to ~ 6 or so. Gorilla Glass seems to be a purified silica, maxing out at 7 hardness. Quartz crystals (what we call "sand") also usually sits at 7 (chemical weathering can both purify and contaminate depending upon the situation), and do not have to be just "sand" like beach/desert sand. Sand is a size classification, you also have "silt" which is just smaller (down to microscopic) quartz crystals, and is "aerial saltating" (airborne- carried by the air but not in solution with it). Many other minerals may be present in the "cloud" that hovers about <50' from the earth's surface due to weathering that will scratch just about anything, so "grit" is a huge issue for ANY screen. Gorilla Glass is nicer than other glass types (although according to the Vickers scale Corning uses, not by much), but it is not invincible and items that can/will scratch are much too common to be flippantly dismissed. Also good reads in these comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mfskn/galaxy_nexus_no_gorilla_glass_no_problem/
Buy a screen protector, even if you have Gorilla Glass...
Just get a high end screen protector like xoskins on there. They fill in scratches. Their video shows it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4

this phone appears too fragile!

So I have a cracked back cover, and I now found a crack on the plastic bezel today. Not drop damage. It must be stress fracturing or something. I also have minor scratches on screen. The stuff I wouldn't see until a year of use with prior gorilla glass phones.
My buddy dropped from pocket onto his wood deck and the glass cracked.
I see multiple people reporting cracked screens from minor falls.
Starting to question the reliability of what appeared to be a great device. Phones shouldn't need babied.
Other thoughts or experiences?
Dropped mine the other day, minor dent to bezel next to screen and its barely noticeable. Kicker to the while thing is that I was on my way into T-Mobile to return the case that was on it and I dropped it coming out of my car. It bothers me but at least the screen didn't take any damage. I have the full coverage on it in case of any future damage. But the phone definitely needs to be babied.
No case? No screen protector? I've dropped mine 3-4 times...no damage to either casing or screen. For a $500 device...keep it reliable by buying **** for it.
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defnow said:
No case? No screen protector? I've dropped mine 3-4 times...no damage to either casing or screen. For a $500 device...keep it reliable by buying **** for it.
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I have a ****ty screen protector on it now, and yes I have a case. My buddy's screen cracked while in a case from a waist high fall.
I haven't needed a screen protector since gorilla glass. That's been like 4 phones ago. I never experienced scratching like I have now.
Seems like you may be a little to rough...Buy a case. Hell even a flip cover would provide "Some" protection. No one ever plans to drop their phone, it happens. Even the smallest dent would bother me lol.
solution = get a case + screen protector. Honestly this is a device you use all day and carry with you. You are bound to drop it, let it slip out of your hand or watch it fall out of your pocket, bag, etc. dropping phones happens! it not just some myth..
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So I have a cracked back cover, and I now found a crack on the plastic bezel today. Not drop damage. It must be stress fracturing or something. I also have minor scratches on screen. The stuff I wouldn't see until a year of use with prior gorilla glass phones.
My buddy dropped from pocket onto his wood deck and the glass cracked.
I see multiple people reporting cracked screens from minor falls.
Starting to question the reliability of what appeared to be a great device. Phones shouldn't need babied.
Other thoughts or experiences?
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You're kidding right? Have you watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuq4eocS_GY
A.VOID said:
So I have a cracked back cover, and I now found a crack on the plastic bezel today. Not drop damage. It must be stress fracturing or something. I also have minor scratches on screen. The stuff I wouldn't see until a year of use with prior gorilla glass phones.
My buddy dropped from pocket onto his wood deck and the glass cracked.
I see multiple people reporting cracked screens from minor falls.
Starting to question the reliability of what appeared to be a great device. Phones shouldn't need babied.
Other thoughts or experiences?
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maybe you should stop treating your 500$ electronics like their childrens toys. had mine a week and its still unblemished.
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You're kidding right? Have you watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuq4eocS_GY
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Ha. Case on phone and still cracked bezel without dropping.
Case on buddy's phone and still cracked.
I don't care about a YouTube video when I have real world experiences that show otherwise.
A.VOID said:
Ha. Case on phone and still cracked bezel without dropping.
Case on buddy's phone and still cracked.
I don't care about a YouTube video when I have real world experiences that show otherwise.
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How about some pics of your and your buddy's phone.
Smartass solution: Take better care of your stuff. I've had a cell phone for 8 years and not once have I dropped any of them on a hard surface.
Real solution: Get a protective case, not a cheap little plastic something. Otterbox Defender or Trident Kraken.
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Smartass solution: Take better care of your stuff. I've had a cell phone for 8 years and not once have I dropped any of them on a hard surface.
Real solution: Get a protective case, not a cheap little plastic something. Otterbox Defender or Trident Kraken.
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Same lol. I just got a Diztronic case for it. Has received some very good reviews
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buy it at best buy and buy the black tie for 9.99
when i ordered mine from verizon i went on youtube to learn about it and saw a guy drop an iphone and the S3 from his pocket level. Both screens cracked.
verizon offered for 6.99 two repairs per year each at a cost of 100. And, no more than 2 per year!
Best buy i found out for 9.99 will repair or replace for nothing and as many times as you like!!!
I canceled verizon and waited till best buy had it and bought it there with the black tie plan.
Be aware
fred
heck a casemate pop which is fairly small saved mine 2 times alread you cant just get a cheepie plastic snap together and think you are golden..
I've got a small scratch on my screen now that drives me nuts. I've never used screen protectors on my Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note and never had a scratch.
I have no idea how it happened. I am very careful about putting it in empty pockets, laying it face-up, etc.
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heck a casemate pop which is fairly small saved mine 2 times alread you cant just get a cheepie plastic snap together and think you are golden..
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Along the same lines, I've got the gray Speck Candyshell on mine and love it. I haven't dropped it (yet...but I will) and I'm confident it will protect it. FWIW, I've also got the ZAGG HD screen protector, so mine is well-protected.
I can't imagine people using a phone like this without some sort of case. Everyone knows how the shiny back of the Candyshell scratches, but I couldn't care less about that. I look at it like this...the scratches I see on the case would be on the back cover of the phone if it wasn't on there. Better for the case to take the damage than the phone.
stevieraveon said:
I've got a small scratch on my screen now that drives me nuts. I've never used screen protectors on my Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note and never had a scratch.
I have no idea how it happened. I am very careful about putting it in empty pockets, laying it face-up, etc.
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A small speck of sand in your pocket is sufficient to cause a scratch, depending on how it rubs the screen.
The candy shell designs are very good tbh. I had the Speck single-piece, in black, on my Galaxy Note and it felt great. It had the lifted lip edge for the screen and a mixture between hard plastic and TPU/silicon. It cost me $45 for that case not $5 for a silicone case like those guys that cracked their phones.
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I guess he wont come back with pictures
I love how everyone assumes I'm trolling and consistently comments about cases without reading.
Cases are used. Phones are cracked. Mine was not dropped.
Here's one pic from my cracked back. To all of you who assume your $50 case will save you... Good luck.

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