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im new to this so im trying to figure out all this stuff. i recently rooted my phone using unrevoked, i believe i did it right but who knows. can someone please let me know the advantages and disadvantages of using unrevoked or another rooting tool im just looking to speed up my phone remove the lag remove some of the sprint apps and able to get some cool apps on my phone any help will be greatly appreciated

jjarn said:
im new to this so im trying to figure out all this stuff. i recently rooted my phone using unrevoked, i believe i did it right but who knows. can someone please let me know the advantages and disadvantages of using unrevoked or another rooting tool im just looking to speed up my phone remove the lag remove some of the sprint apps and able to get some cool apps on my phone any help will be greatly appreciated
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The older method of Unrevoked was known to break 4G for some people. I don't know, because I've never used it, but I haven't heard any complaints from the people using the new Unrevoked.
To check if you phone is rooted properly, simply download the Superuser from the market and install it (you may already have it if it came on the rom you installed). If you do have, download shootme from the market and see if it allows you to take a screen shot of your phone. If it does, you're rooted.
What I don't understand, is why would you root the phone if you don't know what rooting does or what it can do for you.

I like the unrevoked root as it is easy to do and easy to remove.
The best part of rooting for me is installing custom roms and getting rid of the bloatware from sprint. Also by installing one of the new custom roms you will get the new leaked HTC OTA update (thanks to flipz) which makes the EVO a lot more usable because you actually get decent battery.
Wifi tether and quickboot are nice too.
Go try a new rom with some interesting additions like bakedsnack or vaelpack and you'll soon get the hang of it. First thing you need to do is install a custom recovery. You can use clockwork or amon ra, but I've had a few problems with clockwork so I would recommend amon ra. Either of these let you install custom roms and do nandroid backups.

thanks to both of yall i did properly root my phone a friend told me about it i looked it up and being the person i am i had to do it lol ill learn the more advanced stuff as i go could either one of yall tell me the best place to get roms and kernals i know i would like to enhance the performance of my phone and remove stock sprint apps

jjarn said:
thanks to both of yall i did properly root my phone a friend told me about it i looked it up and being the person i am i had to do it lol ill learn the more advanced stuff as i go could either one of yall tell me the best place to get roms and kernals i know i would like to enhance the performance of my phone and remove stock sprint apps
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Best place to get roms and kernels would be under the development forums on this website.
They are specific to the phone (ie you likely cannot run a Desire rom on your EVO).
Always backup your nand with whatever recovery image your using before flashing new stuff, that way you can always get back to where you were if you screw something up.

does rooting disable OTA updates?

I want to Root my Evo,but i have no idea if i will be able to get my gingerbread or even honeycomb OTA update.
i really dont know how to do manually updates,i dont know if its even hard to do.
What is a good/reliable team to get my rooting access from?
in Mind is the UnrEVOked team.
please give me your opinions to help me make the right decisions.
and threads or anything useful for me to have.

If you stay on the stock ROM you should still be able to get ota's but you might loose your root. The cooked ROMs will be updated usually before the official updates are even rolled out, and most likely tweaked and improved. I wouldn't even worry about sprints updates. As far as choosing a ROM, just read through the development forum and read what the ROM offers and the comments through the thread of users reporting bugs (if any) and opinions of performance. Baked snack, CM, and fresh seem to be the most popular and stable. Start with one of those. I used calkulin and frost, both work well too if you like vanilla Android, fresh was the only sense ROM I used and it was very nice. Its all about what look you want and customization. Thats the beauty of Android.
There are plenty of tutorials on the process, read the useful threads and links thread. Thats a good place to start. When ROMs get updated just flash over the previous unless the dev says a wipe is needed, which is rare.

I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
Sent from my PC36100

Caspers25 said:
I mean I love my sense. I can't go on without the beautiful widgets it comes with.
Plus the upgrade they're doing for sense is coming out soon.
But I need to know if a custom recovery is the same as a custom Rom.
I am thinking of doing Unrevoked because its the only one I know that does 2.2 root. Please give me links!
Thanks for the massive help tho.
Sent from my PC36100
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Custom recovery will either be "R.A." or "ClockworkMod." They are a little different from each other. People usually use R.A. They say that clockworkmod doesn't delete cache right, but I personally use clockwork. What a recovery is, is a menu outside the phones system that allows you to install flashable zips. It also allows you to wipe anything, format anything and create & restore nandroid back ups.
There are tons of Roms. Roms are the system of your phone. Usually flashed from the SD card.
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If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.

_MetalHead_ said:
If you do unrevoked forever, you won't lose root when you accept an OTA.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.

tomh1979 said:
The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Hmm... I haven't heard of that but don't doubt it.
The thing is, the devs here usually get their hands on OTAs before they are rolled out, then they make them better and package them into their ROMs. I see no reason to even care about receiving OTAs at all, tbqh

Well i was reading about it and from what I gathered up.
It tells me that if you have a custom Rom you aren't able to accept OTAs,I don't wanna manually update my phone. I don't even know how.
But I need to know of a custom recovery with disable me from getting OTAs,help?
If I should use any custom recovery or any team who should I get my root from? I have a unrooted 2.2 sense.
I need a guide and video tutorial,ha.
I'm on my girls MAC,so no windows stuff please.
Sent from my HTC Evo

Referring to your original post here, I wouldn't root until you are fully comfortable with getting down and dirty with your phone. You say you don't want to or even know how to manually update your phone, well that is Android 101. If you aren't fully familiar with everything that rooting entails (custom recoveries, kernels, ROMs, SU permissions) then you need to keep reading. I spent weeks reading everything I could find before I rooted my phone and I suggest doing the same so you don't potentially fark things up.
Read the wiki, read through the rooting threads in development and really try and build a full understanding of what you're doing before you make the leap.

Well I've rooted my g1 way back then. But I know its not the same concept anymore,but they really never had an update it was just 1.6 so yeah.
I just want OTAs still.
Does any one know what is an Nandroid?
Sent from my HTC EVO

I agree with _MetalHead_ . You really need to read more on rooting, ROMS (and in the process, you'll learn about Nandroid!) before proceeding. I also spent weeks reading and then I didn't go full root - just enough to get wireless tether. Then, I read some more. There are some incredibly helpful people here as well as some incredibly rude people.
While unrevoked can get you started, learn adb and get comfortable pulling and pushing apks. Get very comfortable with Nandroid because it's going to save you.
My lessons learned are 1) NEVER accept an OTA update because it can take devs a long while to gain root, and 2) be patient and NEVER pull the battery while the Evo is doing something - like updating.

I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
Sent from my HTC EVO

A nandroid backup can be done from the recovery screen and it essentially backs up your phone EXACTLY as it is when you run it. So if you want to change something, you nandroid backup (which includes contacts, themes, settings, everything) and if your change doesn't work out, you can boot into recovery and restore your nandroid backup.
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The one thing i have seen is that if you root and use unrevoked forever then you can't accept OTA's either, i have seen this with alot of people including myself, not sure why, but you can download the OTA, but it will not upack, literally, as you start it just freeze's up within the first mintues, and no matter how many times you try, it won't take.
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Just did a little research. The reason why the updates won't take is because of the custom recovery. You need to flash a stock recovery in order to accept updates. It's on Unrevoked's website.
I use apk files already and unrooted.
And thank you very helpful.
PLEASE someone tell me what Nandroid is.
And sites where I can learn about rooting all together.
What do I need to look for?
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Google is your friend. Nandroid is a way to backup and restore your phone.
I already posted the link to the wiki, that is the first place you should start. Next, read through a lot of rooting threads in the development forum here on xda. If you still have questions use the forum's search tool and use google. You gotta do the legwork.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nandroid+Backup
this should help... teach a man to fish...

New EVO with 2.2....Is There a Way to Root?

I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here

I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...

jfenton57 said:
I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
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unrevoked seems to do the job... even after applying the ota update u stay with s-off which lets u flash custom recovery and roms.
one thing that does suck with being rooted this way is that the engineering boot gives u much more than what the new one does... but thats for more advanced users.

yea rooted mine today using unrevoked but was on mac so was a little easier to do but is still a simple process from what it was before look around on youtube and on these forums youll find what your looking for just a simple search and your golden

Sooks said:
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
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Here you go. Its not the easiest way but youll learn more doing it this way... at the very least read through it before you go the one click route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
Roms? Just start clicking and reading. Pretty much every rom has a description and instructions on how to flash.

I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?

jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Camera issues seem all fixed on the all the roms, but that's more of a rom issue not a root issue.
You can un-root, re-root, run a RUU, run a rooted stock rom, etc. there's so many choices I suggest you go to the guides in one of the first posts and start reading.

jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Better? Thats a matter of opinion. One click will put you on clockwork recovery which has had a lot of issues as far as not wiping correctly and that can cause problems flashing rom to rom so if you choose that method I'd switch to Amon_Ras recovery. Just run a search to find it.
Unrooting is the same no matter how you root.
A root method wont break your camera.

Again...
The assistance from you folks is much appreciated

EVO Rom question.

So I don't have an EVO, but I have a friend that does and will pay me to jailbreak it for him, so I was wondering:
Is there a ROM for the EVO that will keep all the stock OS components exactly the same and look and feel exactly the same, but will increase battery life and maybe tweak some speed and internet properties?
Thanks in advance.

Sophrosyne said:
So I don't have an EVO, but I have a friend that does and will pay me to jailbreak it for him, so I was wondering:
Is there a ROM for the EVO that will keep all the stock OS components exactly the same and look and feel exactly the same, but will increase battery life and maybe tweak some speed and internet properties?
Thanks in advance.
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Look into Sprint Lover's Rom....it is the same as stock except with some enhancements. All stock stuff is included. Never used it so don't know about speed but can find info in the development thread.
Otherwise, you could just root it and keep it as is afterwards. Would be exactly the same as stock except rooted and then the user could tweak it over time.
Honestly, all Sense based roms can be made to look exactly like stock but with extra enhancements and speed. A lot of developers will even provide a directory of stock apps taken out so they can be re-installed if someone wants to use them.

Yeah, but even I am new to ROMs and wouldn't have a clue where to begin with that level of custimization.

I think your best bet is to root (obviously) then flash a well-known Sense ROM, like Sprint Lover's. A lot of even the Sense ROMs are starting to customize and theme right out of the box, so it's harder to find a well-supported ROM that still looks stock, but I think Sprint Lover's is the one to beat right now.
After that, you may want to look into a kernel upgrade (a kernel comes as a zip that flashes in recovery just like a ROM, just make sure it's a Sense-compatible kernel). Probably Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 or something like that. I really suggest you read up on the debate over SBC kernels before you decide to use one of those, if you were ever thinking along those lines.
After you root, the first thing you should do (and before every flash) is to make a NANDROID BACKUP!!! Either ClockworkMod or Amon-RA will let you do that easily.

What's a Kernel upgrade? If Sprint Lover's really is the same look and feel with some tweaks to speed and battery, will I even need it?

Sophrosyne said:
What's a Kernel upgrade? If Sprint Lover's really is the same look and feel with some tweaks to speed and battery, will I even need it?
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Kernels are what happens behind the scenes in a rom. Calculations, battery compensation, CPU governors etc etc.
stock roms have kernels from HTC, which are actually known here to have pretty good battery life.
In addition to flashing a custom rom, adding a custom kernel may give more of an edge to what your friend needs.
Kernels here will range from great stability, great performance, or great battery life.
A good rule of thumb is that a good rom will only offer two out of the three, those that claim all generally are just assuming.
That being said there is no definite, uniform "best" combination as hardware/conditions will always be different. Flash a combo and see which works best for your buddy. If he spends a lot of time at the office and at home, performance is best. If he's on the road a lot, perhaps battery fixations will be better.
If he doesn't need much but needs to be able to make that call or text in a clinch regardless of conditions, he'll need stability.
The process seems intimidating coming from iPhone modification, but it can be fun and at times addicting to see what combo best suits you.
If you need something stock with upgraded tweaks, I recommend mikfroyo *4.2* or sprint lovers. As for a kernel, you're looking for Ziggy work. Netarchy is arguably one of the best, but you'll have to sift through a lot of version numbers to get one right, some are potentially dangerous to your specific device so I suggest you read up before downloading.
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Is that so? So are there Kernels that can be applied to the stock ROM? That'd be the best case-scenario. He doesn't want his phone to look any different, but he'd favor battery life and performance over stability. Any Kernels come to mind, then?

Sophrosyne said:
Is that so? So are there Kernels that can be applied to the stock ROM? That'd be the best case-scenario. He doesn't want his phone to look any different, but he'd favor battery life and performance over stability. Any Kernels come to mind, then?
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You are going to have to flash a custom ROM before trying kernels anyway.
Start HERE.
It is on a different forum but it is instruction from this forum with pictures.
It includes an installation of sprint lovers, which is faster, and your friend will have more control over the system, such as removing bloatware, or wireless tether. Then he can easily try flashing kernels after that.

Fazulka said:
You are going to have to flash a custom ROM before trying kernels anyway.
Start HERE.
It is on a different forum but it is instruction from this forum with pictures.
It includes an installation of sprint lovers, which is faster, and your friend will have more control over the system, such as removing bloatware, or wireless tether. Then he can easily try flashing kernels after that.
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Please be aware that this process although the easiest and straightforward, it involves the process of flashing radios...
Under NO circumstances are you to turn off the phone or remove the battery during the img flash or your phone will brick.
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That's seriously the easiest way to get Sprint Lover's? Looks incredibly complicated. All I had to do on my Droid X was install z4root, bootstrap recovery. Root my phone, make a backup, and install the rom from zip on SD card. Can't do that with the EVO?

it is not complicated.
<http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3>
Used unrEVOked3 software to root and unlock NAND (s-off). It is one of the cleanest and easiest rooting programs you could imagine.
Before you do this you will need to install HTC sync software from HTC's website, then uninstall ONLY the sync software portion, and leave the driver portion alone. You also need to install a modified hboot driver as well, as outlined in the link above.
After that, to flash a different ROM all you need to do is put it on your SD card and boot to recovery by turning the phone off, and then turning it back on while holding the volume down button. You can easily find the command to flash a new zip file within recovery.
And if you want to make things even easier, download (and I recommend purchasing) Rom Manager from the market, after you root.
Also, here is a ROM that might interest you. Called stock turbo.
<http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864501>

I must make something clear about that ROM. The second post in that thread says that you should use a different recovery software than what is used with unrEVOked3. Although, I have successfully loaded this rom with clockworkmod in the past.

That ROM looks like exactly what I need. I have a couple questions, though:
What do I need to do before installing that ROM? I know I need to root the EVO. Is that as easy as getting z4root on the SDcard and installing?
Also, the dude recommends using Amon Ra 1.8 to back the phone up. How do I get that? SDcard install or something more complicated?

Just some questions about the Dinc

First let me state I'm brand new to the Dinc. I have a Rezound but recently got my hands on a Dinc and I want to start trying to develop simple Roms with it, I do have some questions though.
What recovery works best with the Dinc? I've heard some talk about CWM, but over on the Rezound I've only heard of problems with CWM which is why the Rezound mainly uses Amon Ra. Would I be able to flash Amon Ra recovery on the Dinc since I am familiar with it?
Also what is the state of jelly bean on the Dinc (either 4.1 or 4.2) I've read some of the Rom posts and read the bugs list, but is their anything else that isn't fully working, for example on the Rezound project butter isn't fully functional and it's not listed in the bugs list, just wondering if there's anything like that.
And finally is the current method to root and unlock the Dinc on GB to unlock via HTC dev? Because when I checked the htcdev.com I couldn't find the original Dinc on the list of supported devices.
I apologize for the long post I just want to get some background info before I dive into the phone. Thanks in advance
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Dogbone737 said:
First let me state I'm brand new to the Dinc. I have a Rezound but recently got my hands on a Dinc and I want to start trying to develop simple Roms with it, I do have some questions though.
What recovery works best with the Dinc? I've heard some talk about CWM, but over on the Rezound I've only heard of problems with CWM which is why the Rezound mainly uses Amon Ra. Would I be able to flash Amon Ra recovery on the Dinc since I am familiar with it?
Also what is the state of jelly bean on the Dinc (either 4.1 or 4.2) I've read some of the Rom posts and read the bugs list, but is their anything else that isn't fully working, for example on the Rezound project butter isn't fully functional and it's not listed in the bugs list, just wondering if there's anything like that.
And finally is the current method to root and unlock the Dinc on GB to unlock via HTC dev? Because when I checked the htcdev.com I couldn't find the original Dinc on the list of supported devices.
I apologize for the long post I just want to get some background info before I dive into the phone. Thanks in advance
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You have a choice of cwm, amon, or twrp. I dont think anyone really uses amon to much on the inc, but it is available, and does work. Cwm is the most popular, but a lot of people are switching to twrp now. I have used cwm since the begining, and have never had any issues with it. Most people who have issues with it is because they use the rom manager app to try to flash things. It is always best to reboot to recovery to do your flashing.
I dont think butter works on the inc. I know at one point people were working on it, but i dont think they ever got it working right. Could be wrong about that though, mabey someone else will chime in. I tried jb, but not for long, so im not up to date on jb development.
Yes the current method for rooting gb is to htcdev unlock your bootloader. I just checked the site, and HTC Droid Incredible* is on the list. You can find rooting guides here on xda, either scottys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600904 or mine http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258. They both achieve thr same thing in the same way, just written up a little differently.

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You have a choice of cwm, amon, or twrp. I dont think anyone really uses amon to much on the inc, but it is available, and does work. Cwm is the most popular, but a lot of people are switching to twrp now. I have used cwm since the begining, and have never had any issues with it. Most people who have issues with it is because they use the rom manager app to try to flash things. It is always best to reboot to recovery to do your flashing.
I dont think butter works on the inc. I know at one point people were working on it, but i dont think they ever got it working right. Could be wrong about that though, mabey someone else will chime in. I tried jb, but not for long, so im not up to date on jb development.
Yes the current method for rooting gb is to htcdev unlock your bootloader. I just checked the site, and HTC Droid Incredible* is on the list. You can find rooting guides here on xda, either scottys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600904 or mine http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258. They both achieve thr same thing in the same way, just written up a little differently.
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Thank you for the response! I plan to use your guide when I have some free time tonight to get my phone up to date with android 4.2

FYI
There is another touch recovery for the DINC called "Cannibal Open Touch". I don't know much about it as I haven't used it yet & have not found any discussion about it in the DINC forums. It claims to work with goo manager & I plan to try it soon.
You should be able to find it by searching HTC Droid Incredible & [Recovery] Cannibal Open Touch v2.1. I believe they also have their own web site.

Just an update to my previous post.
I've tried the OpenCanibalTouch recovery on my Incredible and it's not working correctly yet. It does not flash roms or nandroids correctly and you will be stuck in recovery until you use fastboot or hboot to reinstall another recovery.
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