So I don't have an EVO, but I have a friend that does and will pay me to jailbreak it for him, so I was wondering:
Is there a ROM for the EVO that will keep all the stock OS components exactly the same and look and feel exactly the same, but will increase battery life and maybe tweak some speed and internet properties?
Thanks in advance.
Sophrosyne said:
So I don't have an EVO, but I have a friend that does and will pay me to jailbreak it for him, so I was wondering:
Is there a ROM for the EVO that will keep all the stock OS components exactly the same and look and feel exactly the same, but will increase battery life and maybe tweak some speed and internet properties?
Thanks in advance.
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Look into Sprint Lover's Rom....it is the same as stock except with some enhancements. All stock stuff is included. Never used it so don't know about speed but can find info in the development thread.
Otherwise, you could just root it and keep it as is afterwards. Would be exactly the same as stock except rooted and then the user could tweak it over time.
Honestly, all Sense based roms can be made to look exactly like stock but with extra enhancements and speed. A lot of developers will even provide a directory of stock apps taken out so they can be re-installed if someone wants to use them.
Yeah, but even I am new to ROMs and wouldn't have a clue where to begin with that level of custimization.
I think your best bet is to root (obviously) then flash a well-known Sense ROM, like Sprint Lover's. A lot of even the Sense ROMs are starting to customize and theme right out of the box, so it's harder to find a well-supported ROM that still looks stock, but I think Sprint Lover's is the one to beat right now.
After that, you may want to look into a kernel upgrade (a kernel comes as a zip that flashes in recovery just like a ROM, just make sure it's a Sense-compatible kernel). Probably Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 or something like that. I really suggest you read up on the debate over SBC kernels before you decide to use one of those, if you were ever thinking along those lines.
After you root, the first thing you should do (and before every flash) is to make a NANDROID BACKUP!!! Either ClockworkMod or Amon-RA will let you do that easily.
What's a Kernel upgrade? If Sprint Lover's really is the same look and feel with some tweaks to speed and battery, will I even need it?
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What's a Kernel upgrade? If Sprint Lover's really is the same look and feel with some tweaks to speed and battery, will I even need it?
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Kernels are what happens behind the scenes in a rom. Calculations, battery compensation, CPU governors etc etc.
stock roms have kernels from HTC, which are actually known here to have pretty good battery life.
In addition to flashing a custom rom, adding a custom kernel may give more of an edge to what your friend needs.
Kernels here will range from great stability, great performance, or great battery life.
A good rule of thumb is that a good rom will only offer two out of the three, those that claim all generally are just assuming.
That being said there is no definite, uniform "best" combination as hardware/conditions will always be different. Flash a combo and see which works best for your buddy. If he spends a lot of time at the office and at home, performance is best. If he's on the road a lot, perhaps battery fixations will be better.
If he doesn't need much but needs to be able to make that call or text in a clinch regardless of conditions, he'll need stability.
The process seems intimidating coming from iPhone modification, but it can be fun and at times addicting to see what combo best suits you.
If you need something stock with upgraded tweaks, I recommend mikfroyo *4.2* or sprint lovers. As for a kernel, you're looking for Ziggy work. Netarchy is arguably one of the best, but you'll have to sift through a lot of version numbers to get one right, some are potentially dangerous to your specific device so I suggest you read up before downloading.
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Is that so? So are there Kernels that can be applied to the stock ROM? That'd be the best case-scenario. He doesn't want his phone to look any different, but he'd favor battery life and performance over stability. Any Kernels come to mind, then?
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Is that so? So are there Kernels that can be applied to the stock ROM? That'd be the best case-scenario. He doesn't want his phone to look any different, but he'd favor battery life and performance over stability. Any Kernels come to mind, then?
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You are going to have to flash a custom ROM before trying kernels anyway.
Start HERE.
It is on a different forum but it is instruction from this forum with pictures.
It includes an installation of sprint lovers, which is faster, and your friend will have more control over the system, such as removing bloatware, or wireless tether. Then he can easily try flashing kernels after that.
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You are going to have to flash a custom ROM before trying kernels anyway.
Start HERE.
It is on a different forum but it is instruction from this forum with pictures.
It includes an installation of sprint lovers, which is faster, and your friend will have more control over the system, such as removing bloatware, or wireless tether. Then he can easily try flashing kernels after that.
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Please be aware that this process although the easiest and straightforward, it involves the process of flashing radios...
Under NO circumstances are you to turn off the phone or remove the battery during the img flash or your phone will brick.
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That's seriously the easiest way to get Sprint Lover's? Looks incredibly complicated. All I had to do on my Droid X was install z4root, bootstrap recovery. Root my phone, make a backup, and install the rom from zip on SD card. Can't do that with the EVO?
it is not complicated.
<http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3>
Used unrEVOked3 software to root and unlock NAND (s-off). It is one of the cleanest and easiest rooting programs you could imagine.
Before you do this you will need to install HTC sync software from HTC's website, then uninstall ONLY the sync software portion, and leave the driver portion alone. You also need to install a modified hboot driver as well, as outlined in the link above.
After that, to flash a different ROM all you need to do is put it on your SD card and boot to recovery by turning the phone off, and then turning it back on while holding the volume down button. You can easily find the command to flash a new zip file within recovery.
And if you want to make things even easier, download (and I recommend purchasing) Rom Manager from the market, after you root.
Also, here is a ROM that might interest you. Called stock turbo.
<http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864501>
I must make something clear about that ROM. The second post in that thread says that you should use a different recovery software than what is used with unrEVOked3. Although, I have successfully loaded this rom with clockworkmod in the past.
That ROM looks like exactly what I need. I have a couple questions, though:
What do I need to do before installing that ROM? I know I need to root the EVO. Is that as easy as getting z4root on the SDcard and installing?
Also, the dude recommends using Amon Ra 1.8 to back the phone up. How do I get that? SDcard install or something more complicated?
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? how do i get that little superadministrator icon on my phone? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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Choose a new fancy ROM, download it to your SD card and use Amon to flash it. Easy as pie.
They are many great ROMs from many great developers here. Everyone has their preferences, mine is Fresh. I've never been dissapointed.
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
I don't understand: Why would you root your phone if you don't even know what it does? Not trying to be a ****; I'm just saying.
Firstly, if you rooted, all you did was revert your phone back to 2.1 so you no longer have Froyo. (edit: nevermind.....I see you want back to 2.2; I'm guessing you flashed a 2.2 stock rooted rom to your phone). The superuser app is empty because it hasn't given superuser permission to any apps that require it. If you want to see your superuser app in action, download ShootMe or screenshot from the market, and you will see the app asks for superuser permission.
I rooted my phone because I thought it was ridiculous to pay Sprint $30 a month to use the wireless tether option that was built into the Evo by HTC and which I already paid for when I purchased the phone. Now I use my root privileges to do a lot more, but my point is that I had a reason to root my phone to begin with. Download wireless tether and try it.
If you want to uninstall apps, download Titanium Back up (that's what I use anyway) and go to town removing stuff. I am not sure if the free version removes apps or not because I got the paid one from the beginning, but now that you are rooted, it is well worth the price for the premium license. You can use this app to move stuff to your SD card and free up your phone's internal memory, too. You can also back up all your apps and system data which is handy when you flash from one rom to another and you have to do a full wipe of your phone.
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Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
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Some of the ROMs have all that stuff removed for you, such as Fresh.
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
thanks for the input
Thanks for all the replies! Rugedraw - i especially appreciate your indepth answer despite the fact that you are clearly somewhat annoyed by the question.
Here's the thing. The android revolution is ongoing and picking up steam. and i could talk about that all day long. Opensource, kick blackberry in the berry, and send apple back to where it was after its huge popularity boom in the 90s - struggling to overcome its fatal closed system flaw. Beyond that, I bought my Evo for 2 reasons. My 16 month son threw my blackberry into the toilet (nice work - i now appreciate it), and my tech guy at work has been raving about his rooted Droid x2. as of 10 days ago it didn't seem possible to root the 2.2 froyo, but he told be to be on the lookout. I figured this is a little like an arms race and that the sooner i rooted my phone when the method was avail. the better. (tech guy is in italy with his fiancee right now, or i would be asking him all these questions)
Soooo, it seemed to me, that in the spirit of owning an opensource device and joining the android revolution, that i should root my phone and unlock all the magic.
I'm no computer programming whiz, i dont write code, and i learned all of the terminology on this board in the last 2 days. So lost, but learning fast.
I did not root my phone for no reason. I clearly understand the utility of having superuser status (besides, most guys are wired to want that kinda thing regardless) - deleting annoying sprint apps that chew power, "re-tuning" the device to run more efficiently, and of course, free wifi tethering.
But, after completing the most excellent root method described in this forum, i found myself staring at a rooted 2.2 and wondering what the next step was. There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" so thats why i started this thread, figuring that I was not the only one in my situation
THAT enormously long winded explanation complete, I would love to aggregate the appropriate options in this thread. Method to wipe, list of Flash Roms for a rooted 2.2 EVO.
Again, thanks for all the replies,
btw what does "uncap your FPS" mean?
If you did unrevoked then I would flash the latest Amon-RA recovery image. No offense to clockworkmod, amon is just my preference.
Poke around the recovery console and learn how it works.
NAND FIRST!! haha, develop that habit before you flash anything (roms, kernels, etc.), just in case
-Flash a rom that suits your needs. Read their OP's and threads to learn what they are about and what the people that use them think. I would suggest you just flash the stock rooted 2.2, play with it for a week or two to see how root works and explore what you can do with it. Also look into backup methods so you are familiar with how to preserve your stuff when you flash a different rom.
FPS = frames per second. There are kernels that will lift the 30fps cap.
Read about kernels and how to take advantage of them.
I know I've been pretty general, just pick a trail and start walking, when you have questions ask em
I like your logic of titling the thread exactly what you searched for, usin yer brains to make this thread more beneficial to the next guy (imagine a thumbs-up smiley here)
zeuzinn said:
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
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It is highly recommended that you do what he says! You'll see a major improvement in lots of areas. In case you're curious here is my setup: STOCK 2.2 w/ Netarchy kernal. I chose the stock 2.2 so that I may do with it what I like. It's very fast and very stable.
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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You can remove Sprint stuff, just have to spend some time and learn to use ADB. Rooting an EVO is not the same as rooting an iPhone, you can pretty much do everything you can from rooting an iPhone without even rooting Android so the difference is not that great.
Most of what you gain from rooting Android is being able to do things the carrier doesn't wan't you to do such as install free wifi tethering, remove their apps etc... You can also install others roms where they have already done this stuff for you but from what I have seen on the EVO and 2.2 battery life suffers greatly on pretty much any rom other than stock rooted so there is a lot to be gained from learning adb and just working with the stock rooted rom to remove the apps you wan't to.
I'm in the same boat. I got my new EVO on Tuesday, it was rooted an hour later. Why? Because that's how we do things! First thing for me it was important to have tethering. Work blocks damned near everything. As I learn more about the Android system I'll get more use out of root.
I was carefully paying attention to the thread and particularly bluehaze's answer. I'd like to learn more about using adb to remove sprint crap. That amazon app is always restarting itself. If there an ADB for newbs guide around here anywhere? I looked but didn't see.
There are a few things that I use which make root a necessity.
- custom ROMs provide a setup more tailored to what you are personally looking for
- using wireless tethering without being artificially limited to Sprint's commercial offering
- backups! I can boot into recovery and make a backup image of my setup at any point. That way no matter what settings I change or what ROMs I test out, I can always go right back to my stable daily driver in 5 minutes if needed.
- custom recovery and superuser allow you to install things, uninstall things, theme things, etc. Nothing worse than not being able to change something on my own device
- speed, battery, etc. via tweaked kernels. I'm using Baked Snack's ROM and kernel now and it's way faster and nicer on battery than stock
nOObs need love too
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...There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" ...
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Now there is...thanks. My Google search on those words led me here. I've been lurking on these boards since I got my EVO a while ago, but I haven't had the guts to root until right now, 2nite, it's happening... I'll be back soon with my *new and improved* phone.
Whoo! Good Luck!
Indeed, you'll be a flash addict in no time. You may want to check out the link in my sig - it points to my post in a more recent version of this thread, with more current and relevant information throughout. Good luck!
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I searched the exact same thing in google 'cept im on an x10, this thread looks like a good place to start
New guy...
Same here, I just rooted my Evo today and everything seems to be working great. But I'm clueless on how to put a rom on to my sd card so I can flash it to my evo.
Can any one send me a link to a basic how to..
Thanks
Rich
I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
jfenton57 said:
I've never rooted anything but now that I've ditched the EPIC the first question becomes....is there a way to get full root with a new device that has stock FROYO loaded?
I have not yet installed this morning update and figured I'd wait to see about rooting.
What I would like to accomplish is to get rid of all the pre-loaded crap, realize some better battery life and then get the FPS update.
So...assuming I can root, do I then flash a custom rom or?
Seriously....your assistance would be greatly appreciated as the plethora of how to threads gets rather confusing here
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unrevoked seems to do the job... even after applying the ota update u stay with s-off which lets u flash custom recovery and roms.
one thing that does suck with being rooted this way is that the engineering boot gives u much more than what the new one does... but thats for more advanced users.
yea rooted mine today using unrevoked but was on mac so was a little easier to do but is still a simple process from what it was before look around on youtube and on these forums youll find what your looking for just a simple search and your golden
Sooks said:
I got my Evo a few days after Froyo was released, so the Sprint rep updated it for me. The simple root method is, well, simple. Just use that and then flash any rom you choose and yes you will be able to rid your phone of all the bulk software. Depending on the rom and how you configure your device, battery life will vary.
One of the biggest decisions you'll have to make is choosing between a sense rom or the stock android look. Some roms combine both. Cyanogen my recommendation If you want to try the stock look, it's also the fastest I've used. As for sense roms, I'de suggest you try em' all.
So what made you switch from the Epic? I was thinking about trying it out...
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Here you go. Its not the easiest way but youll learn more doing it this way... at the very least read through it before you go the one click route.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
Roms? Just start clicking and reading. Pretty much every rom has a description and instructions on how to flash.
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Camera issues seem all fixed on the all the roms, but that's more of a rom issue not a root issue.
You can un-root, re-root, run a RUU, run a rooted stock rom, etc. there's so many choices I suggest you go to the guides in one of the first posts and start reading.
jfenton57 said:
I truly appreciate the replies
One question I have is this....
Is one root method better than others?
Also, can one un root if need be more easily with one root method vs another?
Lastly....do all root methods still allow the camera to work or?
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Better? Thats a matter of opinion. One click will put you on clockwork recovery which has had a lot of issues as far as not wiping correctly and that can cause problems flashing rom to rom so if you choose that method I'd switch to Amon_Ras recovery. Just run a search to find it.
Unrooting is the same no matter how you root.
A root method wont break your camera.
Again...
The assistance from you folks is much appreciated
I've read a lot about rooting and never found anything answering this specific, simple question. Please point me in the right direction if I've just carelessly looked past it.
If I go to unrevoked and do the simple root, does it change anything right away? All I really want to do is delete the bloatware, wipe battery stats, that kind of thing. I still want sense and everything else I currently love about my phone. I don't want to lose anything, just make a couple tweaks I can't do without rooting. So does rooting leave everything as is and just give you more permissions? Or does it inherently change anything I might regret?
What rooting does it gain you access to change things you normally couldn't. you can flash custom ROMs that have all the excess bloatware deleted out of it. They can be optimized, they can have added features in them, amongst other things. You can also flash custom kernels that will give the phone either more power ( overclock, but in this case overvolting ) they can give them better battery life, but it will be a tad slower. You can also get a nice blend in power and battery life ( read my guide in my signature about kernels )
You can also get free wifi tethering that Sprint charges you for. You can also just theme your ROM to how you like it. There are many many many more things, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
You can root your phone using revoked, but then if you're looking to do all of those things, then why not flash a nice ROM that has that stuff done? Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo is a NICE sense rom. Its fast etc.
I know all the fancy stuff rooting can do for you, and maybe one day I'll get into that. But for the time being, I still don't know the answer to my question. Will rooting in and of itself change anything? What I would like to see happen for now is: I root, and everything stays the same, except for the added access to things. Will that happen?
All the extra stuff may come in time, but for now, I'm not an expert on this topic and I don't have the money to throw around to risk damaging my phone because I was misinformed about something. I'm very timid when it comes to this!
Rooting with unrevoked, the easiest way, will not change anything that you notice. You will still have the stock sprint rom just like you do now. The only thing unrevoked does, is change the security settings to S-off, adds a custom recovery, and adds the Superuser app. Otherwise you wont know the difference.
Thats exactly what I did. I didnt want a custom rom, all I wanted to do was use wireless tether.
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Rooting with unrevoked, the easiest way, will not change anything that you notice. You will still have the stock sprint rom just like you do now. The only thing unrevoked does, is change the security settings to S-off, adds a custom recovery, and adds the Superuser app. Otherwise you wont know the difference.
Thats exactly what I did. I didnt want a custom rom, all I wanted to do was use wireless tether.
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Thanks so much, that's exactly what to wanted to know!
My Dinc2 is a work phone so I won't be flashing any ROM's, but I wanted peoples opinions as to whether it is still a good idea to root or not?
If I'm not going to flash ROM's, what other benefits might I gain?
What are the downsides (not including warranty issues, since my work will get me a new phone no matter what if this one dies, rooted or not)?
TIA
AFAIK, some apps require S-OFF - and of course this allows you to freeze certain bloatware. Other than that, I can't see why you'd root if you are not going to try out different ROMs.
But freezing bloat is not a bad idea if you find the VZN stuff annoying.
Freezing bloat is a big plus for sure... Also being able to "unfreeze" the clock and other Htc and Google apps that seem to like to magically disappear is a nice benefit of having root as well
Being able to make a nandroid backup and using Titanium Backup are also excellent benefits.
Being able to freeze or uninstall some of the bloatware will also help your battery life. Getting great battery life on my rooted Dinc2 now!
well if you root and do a nandroid backup, why couldn't you flash new ROMs?
Rooting for me is always the first step to a new phone, though I'm constantly flashing ROMs.
With the bloat that came on the Inc2 being able to freeze / remove some of the pre-installed apk's is a huge benefit.
In all honesty, if you are questioning rooting or not you probably are happy with your current experience. If that's the case rooting probably isn't needed.
my main purpose in rooting is to allow for tethering. I dont bother with ROMs all that often.
So root if you want to tether (or at least have it as a backup).
can I ask what you removed and how? Can I just delete a root file or do I need a special uninstaller? I'm rooted, S-off...thx
Seems worth it to root for wi-fi tethering and freezing Verizon crapware even without getting into custom ROMs (that may or may not actually improve the phone).
I don't know what it is with the stock ROM but things just stop working. Ever since I've installed a new ROM its been good. I'd eveb just install the debloated ROM. Its better than stock.
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I don't know what it is with the stock ROM but things just stop working. Ever since I've installed a new ROM its been good. I'd eveb just install the debloated ROM. Its better than stock.
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Not experienced at all, but I agree that the ROM's available for this phone work well. The hardware reacts well to sense 3.0 and AOSP ROM's. That said, I had fascinate; it seemed the more I flashed, the worse the phone got (I believe it was a partitioning issue).
OP, sure can't hurt to root. Just make sure you know how to stock out, but wireless tether and freezing bloatware + small other mods make it worth it...
I wouldn't possess an unrooted phone. i've had six different Androids all rooted the very day I got em. and now that revolutionary is around rooting is very painless. just my two cents
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Debloating is a neat thing to do if you are going to stay with stock, just make sure to backup your rom so if you happen to remove something important or anything you will always be able to go back easily.
Also, some of the root-only applications can be quite handy, like AdFree...It makes viewing "certain" websites that love to use a ton of javascript for their ads, a lot easier to browse on the tiny smartphone screens.
...and that is kind of everything besides flashing to other roms.
1.) Debloat
2.) Adfree
Thanks for all the advice!
I ended up rooting, and the funny thing is the final decision was because I wanted to install SkyRaider Zeus ROM ;-)
The rooting process was very easy which also made the decision easier.
What I liked about SkyRaider Zeus was that it was the original kernel but added some Sense 3.0 elements. So far I love it!
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Thanks for all the advice!
I ended up rooting, and the funny thing is the final decision was because I wanted to install SkyRaider Zeus ROM ;-)
The rooting process was very easy which also made the decision easier.
What I liked about SkyRaider Zeus was that it was the original kernel but added some Sense 3.0 elements. So far I love it!
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Custom roms? You gave in! Welcome to the dark side.
I ended up rooting, and the funny thing is the final decision was because I wanted to install SkyRaider Zeus ROM ;-)
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Warning: Rom flashing may cause never ending Rom flashing..
OK....So im not new to XDA or android really....have been in the HTC Hero forum for a little bit, but my new phone will be here tomorrow....
So far things seem just a lil bit different on this side, please correct me if im wrong....
Kernels-cooked into the ROM cant be flashed over with a different kernel?
Root looks pretty easy to achieve, but also easy to loose/unroot?
CWM doesnt play well with this phone, and must be cooked into a ROM instead of being flashed freely?
Modem/Radio...is there a new or old better or worse...are these all just cooked up and are trial an error? It seems that there should be some kind of consensus as to which ones are good,bad,or indifferent...or which ones work better in a different markets?
And the xx14 or pgxx....different codes for ROMs, what is all of that about, a little insight into that would be GREAT!!
Again, I have been reading over the forums for a week or so now and I am just trying to wrap my head around how this new process is going to work...The Hero is a legacy device and everything seems second nature for me. Alot of people in that forum moved on the the Evo3D, but I was ready for a something new and different, so here I am! I just dont want to screw something up on this device.
Thanks in advance for any positive input.
Edit: OOPS....Guess this should have gone in the Q/A...sorry.
For the code names like FC14... is basically identification of the build date of the ROM.
F = year (2012)
C = month (March)
14 = day
Gotcha, thanks!
Recovery is packed with the kernel. You can use any kernel you want as long as you are using gingerbread kernels with gb roms and ics kernels with ics roms. You can flash them with odin or cwm.
There are currently issues with ICS kernels so it is not recommended to use recovery on any ics kernels.
Modems are basically trial and error with regards to which is best for your phone. You are free to use any modem on any build.
The absolute safest route is ODIN for sure. There is a lot of speculation on what exactly is causing bricks. It seems the worst of it is connected with ICS and Clockword Mod Touch Recovery being used together.
Odin is a very nice tool that you can use from your computer to flash rom files, kernels, and modems. There is also Mobile Odin available from the play market for a few dollars. It's a worthwhile investment because you can flash tar files without a computer. But it is a known issue that the modem won't flash, which isn't a huge deal. Just do it from your computer when you get a chance.
Root isn't necessarily easy to lose. The only way to lose it is to personally remove root using a tool, like autoroot, or to do an OTA update from a stock rooted ROM, that would also remove root. Other than that once you're rooted you are good to go.
Be sure to do AS MUCH READING AS POSSIBLE. People are BRICKING their phones. They are breaking them beyond personal repair, and Spring Tech repair, thus needed warranty replacements. READ READ READ READ READ READ. I can't say it enough, nobody can say it enough. Even the developers have bricked their phones.
Yeah, I am reading...lol
Thats what made me post this because some of it doesnt make sense compared to what I am used to...
I am pretty sure im gonna root and stay stock for at least.....a day! Just to get a feel for it, and be able to tell a difference between stock and Mod... But I must confess I am a flash-whore and have been dying for some ICS goodness!!
I came from the EVO 4G; here are some things I've picked up.
1) The recovery and kernel is combined with samsung phones (same partition). So you can't just flash 1 or the other, you install both.
2) Touch CMW on E4GT is unproven. Some fared ok, some say otherwise. To be safe, I'd avoid it for now. Regular CMW and Rogue recovery are pretty much the gold standard here.
3) Any recovery installed by Rom Manager is temporary (again kernel/recovery are combined). Meaning it won't stick past a normal reboot.
4) Until ICS source is released, any actions done specifically in the ICS kernel-based recovery could potentially brick your phone. This is especially true for any ICS aosp roms (CM9, miui v4, aokp, etc). So this means once you flash from gb to ICS, your recovery is suspect. I will say that I don't see many reports of people bricking with these TW ics leaks, as many just seem to use calk's format all script and flash away. To be 100% safe, its best to odin back to a gb kernel-recovery to anything within the recovery.
5) Learn to use Odin; its important to know if you are going to play with ICS right now.
Good luck!
modems, just like radios, are going to be different for each user.
personally i just use the latest modem since sprint sucks no matter which one i use.
root is achieved simply by using odin to flash a rooted rom.
unroot by simply using odin to flash a stock rom.
very easy!