When I do a titanium backup should I do system apps too?
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I have the same question.
Doesn't seem like you can restore system apps other than the data.
Are there particular system apps that it would be useful to restore the data after flashing a new rom?
I don't see an option to backup system apps. I see backup all user apps, backup all system data, and backup all user apps + system data. I do the backup all user apps + system data, then restore missing apps + all system data.
TB will backup pretty much all user-installed apps, bloatware and sense/HTC apps, but not kernel-related stuff I believe.
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At least you're honest.
I am using titanium pro and as I sample different roms, I wonder if I am messing up new rom installations by restoring too much.
Is there any kind of system data or app that should not be backed up and restored? Or a rule of thumb to use as a guide?
One more question, my backed up data now includes full back up from Stock, MikFroyo and CM7. Is this a mess and does it hurt to layer a backup from one rom over another?
The wisdom of experience is appreciated!
mrquaid said:
I am using titanium pro and as I sample different roms, I wonder if I am messing up new rom installations by restoring too much.
Is there any kind of system data or app that should not be backed up and restored? Or a rule of thumb to use as a guide?
One more question, my backed up data now includes full back up from Stock, MikFroyo and CM7. Is this a mess and does it hurt to layer a backup from one rom over another?
The wisdom of experience is appreciated!
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+1 on this, I would like to know as well.
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Ive used ti backup for about a year now, I just backup user apps + data. Different roms use different or themed system apps so restoring something from a different rom can cause issues. I would just stick with user apps
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Ok when I flash a new ROM and want to do so with a clean slate/wipe, I have titanium backup to back up all my apps, but I'm still kinda unsure of the full procedure as obvious as it may seem... When I did my first wipe, I had to go back and redo all of my information for everything on the phone. Is this typical? What I mean by that is I had to input all my google account info, set up my home screens, set up my facebook app...and turn off all of my sync's...
if you don't wipe, do you have to do all of that? Does a titanium backup on apps/system data allow you to not have to do this?
is this the proper step by step:
1.Titanium backup - apps/system data
2. Rom manager -download rom w/ wipe and back up
3. load rom
4. titanium restore - apps/system data?
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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when i flashed to virtuous and did a wipe, i did a backup before of just apps and when i restored apps+user data, it really didn't do anything. I still had to change all the configurations for everything to not sync and to put in username/password...
smtom said:
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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was shaky on this as well....what is the difference between user and system data? Just would be a pain to lose all layouts and wifi passwords.
I've been doing apps+system data each time and havn't really had any major problems to speak of
my titanium backup doesnt have an option to back up apps+user data... just apps and apps+system data
My bad on an unclear response.. When restoring from TB, it's apps+ user data. You do not want to restore system apps from a different rom. In the scheduling section of TB, There are different configurations you can choose.
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any way to keep home screens and such in place?
Should be the restore desktop htc sense in TB/Restore missing apps+ all system data. That's the only 1 you should pull from there for this.
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I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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SR3TLAW said:
I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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Get the paid version.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a quesition about TB Pro. Today I flashed the CM6 ROM onto my DINC. When I reinstalled the TB Pro app onto the phone from my appmonster folder on the SD Card and opened it up to restore my apps in batch mode, TB Pro would FC whether I was trying to restore apps only, apps+data or even individual apps (not batch mode). Am I doing something wrong, am I misunderstanding how TB Pro is supposed to function, is there an incompatibility?
Try the problems button in titanium and clear its data in the application menu.
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Can someone clarify if one should only backup apps when doing a TB or is it ok to do apps + data? this is based on a concern of moving from different roms. thx.
Just backup Apps. Restoring system data will screw things up if you're switching between different roms. The data on your apps should be still there. For example, my profiles on SetCPU were still present after I completely wiped my phone/cache and restored my apps.
ApocNarok said:
Just backup Apps. Restoring system data will screw things up if you're switching between different roms. The data on your apps should be still there. For example, my profiles on SetCPU were still present after I completely wiped my phone/cache and restored my apps.
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Thx very much
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so i have calk vs. 2.5 and i want unnamed rom with all my app's. so when i go into recovery do i need to format all data or can i just instal the rom ??? and ik u can use titanium backup but in titanium backup is there a button restore all backed up apps? thanks!
In order to flash a completely different ROM, you need to wipe data, which will erase your current ROM and apps. You will need to use Titanium Backup to restore your apps after formatting and flashing the new ROM.
I think (not positive) TB has a batch option to restore all user apps.
shlomi84 said:
so i have calk vs. 2.5 and i want unnamed rom with all my app's. so when i go into recovery do i need to format all data or can i just instal the rom ??? and ik u can use titanium backup but in titanium backup is there a button restore all backed up apps? thanks!
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Back up your apps on the current rom you are running. Use Titanium back up from the market. I usually wipe data and then back up the app. Go down the list until you got all the ones you wanted.
When you flash the new rom, flash it normally as you would going to any new rom. I use Calkulin's FORMAT ALL zip folder. It's easiest. And then flash new rom and reboot system. After you let the rom settle in for a good while, I usually reboot the phone. Then when you start setting up on the new rom, download Titanium back up again from the market. Once it's on your phone, go into the app and all the apps you backed up should be at the bottom. I usually just restore the app not the data with it.
Try not to restore system apps + data because it can cause problems when switching between ROMS.
caseykelly said:
Try not to restore system apps + data because it can cause problems when switching between ROMS.
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I've never even found myself backing up/restoring system apps. I just stick to the "user apps".
eao1991 said:
I've never even found myself backing up/restoring system apps. I just stick to the "user apps".
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is there a one button click for "restore all backed up user app's" or restore all app's lol i got alot of app's and takes like an hour between roms to get everything back
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shlomi84 said:
is there a one button click for "restore all backed up user app's" or restore all app's lol i got alot of app's and takes like an hour between roms to get everything back
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Yes. Click menu then batch but it only works with the paid version of TB. I've had plenty of problems restoring apps and user data with TB on a new Rom. Yes it's quick and easy but in my opinion it's worth the time to reinstall everything you can fresh from the market.
I've always found switching roms a good time to clear out unneeded apps, just select the ones I really use and forget the rest.
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DataHawg said:
Yes. Click menu then batch but it only works with the paid version of TB. I've had plenty of problems restoring apps and user data with TB on a new Rom. Yes it's quick and easy but in my opinion it's worth the time to reinstall everything you can fresh from the market.
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Agree with this sentiment. Connected to Wi-Fi and take 10 minutes to fresh install everything so you know you aren't getting any of the conflicts that can arise using restored apps from different firmware.
hey can someone help me with my restore.. i cannot restore .. when ever i restore the phone reboots.. plz ny help from ny one plz
Are you restoring system Data? If so then don't restore system data
Any custom ROM?
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I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
intel007 said:
I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
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i tried to install the app from market it still rebooted
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I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
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I asked the titanium devs why I couldn't restore system apps, it just hangs. They said they do not support backing up and restoring system apps and that they provide disclaimers saying this.
I think the advertising of titanium makes it sound like this function is one of its main features so I was disappointed with this.
Scott
scott_doyland said:
the titanium devs why said they do not support backing up and restoring system apps and that they provide disclaimers saying this.
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It's not an issue with system apps its random.
I can push apps to system, back them up, restore them and even do the same with native system apps so I'm pretty sure that's not it.
Even trying to restore certain games causes titanium to hang eg. Angry birds.
Maybe its more of an issue backing up rather than restoring.
I heard that titanium backup should not be used when changing to a new ROM.
Is it true? If so, why?
Another question, if I don't use titanium backup to backup everything but just a few user data(like the save of games), and I don't backup the app, just simply the user data, is it okay then?
It doesn't matter if you are changing roms or whatever it just backs up apk files and data folder so it will work on every rom without any problems.
It's better to take the 'app' from playstore after flashing a new Rom..sometimes titanium can get stuck at 'Restoring app data'..happened with me with twice..
Where did you read it shouldnt be used?
I regularly backup all user and system data.
When you go to a new ROM though, its quite fine to restore ALL user apps+data
But when it comes to system apps, I always go through them individually and restore what necessary - some system apps/data may conflict with the new ROM system apps/data.
This is my experience...could be bull**** lol
Alright, thx all of you
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The best way is restore apps without data, reboot then restore data. I've been doing it that way since my x10 running donut...
If changing to another rom only restore user data/apps. Don't restore system apps data as it may cause probs.
I use titanium backup on my arc and n7 tablet have the same apps etc and always send titanium data between the 2 devices with out any issues.
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