[Q] Titanium best practices - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Can someone clarify if one should only backup apps when doing a TB or is it ok to do apps + data? this is based on a concern of moving from different roms. thx.

Just backup Apps. Restoring system data will screw things up if you're switching between different roms. The data on your apps should be still there. For example, my profiles on SetCPU were still present after I completely wiped my phone/cache and restored my apps.

ApocNarok said:
Just backup Apps. Restoring system data will screw things up if you're switching between different roms. The data on your apps should be still there. For example, my profiles on SetCPU were still present after I completely wiped my phone/cache and restored my apps.
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Thx very much
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[Q] [REQ] wipe/titanium backup tutorial? (couldnt find)

Ok when I flash a new ROM and want to do so with a clean slate/wipe, I have titanium backup to back up all my apps, but I'm still kinda unsure of the full procedure as obvious as it may seem... When I did my first wipe, I had to go back and redo all of my information for everything on the phone. Is this typical? What I mean by that is I had to input all my google account info, set up my home screens, set up my facebook app...and turn off all of my sync's...
if you don't wipe, do you have to do all of that? Does a titanium backup on apps/system data allow you to not have to do this?
is this the proper step by step:
1.Titanium backup - apps/system data
2. Rom manager -download rom w/ wipe and back up
3. load rom
4. titanium restore - apps/system data?
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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when i flashed to virtuous and did a wipe, i did a backup before of just apps and when i restored apps+user data, it really didn't do anything. I still had to change all the configurations for everything to not sync and to put in username/password...
smtom said:
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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was shaky on this as well....what is the difference between user and system data? Just would be a pain to lose all layouts and wifi passwords.
I've been doing apps+system data each time and havn't really had any major problems to speak of
my titanium backup doesnt have an option to back up apps+user data... just apps and apps+system data
My bad on an unclear response.. When restoring from TB, it's apps+ user data. You do not want to restore system apps from a different rom. In the scheduling section of TB, There are different configurations you can choose.
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any way to keep home screens and such in place?
Should be the restore desktop htc sense in TB/Restore missing apps+ all system data. That's the only 1 you should pull from there for this.
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I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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SR3TLAW said:
I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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Get the paid version.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a quesition about TB Pro. Today I flashed the CM6 ROM onto my DINC. When I reinstalled the TB Pro app onto the phone from my appmonster folder on the SD Card and opened it up to restore my apps in batch mode, TB Pro would FC whether I was trying to restore apps only, apps+data or even individual apps (not batch mode). Am I doing something wrong, am I misunderstanding how TB Pro is supposed to function, is there an incompatibility?
Try the problems button in titanium and clear its data in the application menu.
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Titanium backup system apps?

When I do a titanium backup should I do system apps too?
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I have the same question.
Doesn't seem like you can restore system apps other than the data.
Are there particular system apps that it would be useful to restore the data after flashing a new rom?
I don't see an option to backup system apps. I see backup all user apps, backup all system data, and backup all user apps + system data. I do the backup all user apps + system data, then restore missing apps + all system data.
TB will backup pretty much all user-installed apps, bloatware and sense/HTC apps, but not kernel-related stuff I believe.
Hello everyone i'm just stopping by to reach my 10 limit posts so i can make a post in the developers threads.
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At least you're honest.
I am using titanium pro and as I sample different roms, I wonder if I am messing up new rom installations by restoring too much.
Is there any kind of system data or app that should not be backed up and restored? Or a rule of thumb to use as a guide?
One more question, my backed up data now includes full back up from Stock, MikFroyo and CM7. Is this a mess and does it hurt to layer a backup from one rom over another?
The wisdom of experience is appreciated!
mrquaid said:
I am using titanium pro and as I sample different roms, I wonder if I am messing up new rom installations by restoring too much.
Is there any kind of system data or app that should not be backed up and restored? Or a rule of thumb to use as a guide?
One more question, my backed up data now includes full back up from Stock, MikFroyo and CM7. Is this a mess and does it hurt to layer a backup from one rom over another?
The wisdom of experience is appreciated!
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+1 on this, I would like to know as well.
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Ive used ti backup for about a year now, I just backup user apps + data. Different roms use different or themed system apps so restoring something from a different rom can cause issues. I would just stick with user apps

Titanium Backup

Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Just curious, did you allow root when you first launched Titanium Backup? You might try removing it and installing again.
Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.
gabby131 said:
Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.
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YES, didn't even notice that. I usually say never restore System apps or system data with Tibu. It's great for 3rd party apps and data, but more often times it will end up giving you many FC's and leaving you with a generally unstable phone.
hello i have been using this rom,
freeze a app you would like then wait about 10 sec push the home key then restart the phone even tho TB doesnt stop deleting the app it has actually done it i think its a bug in this rom, when the phone powers on you will notice the app is gone, same steps for restoring if the app is big id wait longer before restarting.
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Then how do you install system apps?
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Aquethys said:
Then how do you install system apps?
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requires some work...you can unpack those system apps from the stock rom and push it to /system/app....
not guaranteed to work, you might end up reflashing....do it on your risk....
Is osimood applied over the rogers rom or replace?
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It should replace the existing ROM, sort of. When going from a stock ROM to custom I always do a wipe data/factory reset in CWM. Then when you flash the new ROM, it's basically replacing the stock ROM. I said sort of, because sometime if you don't wipe the data, when you flash the new ROM some of your old data may still be lingering around. Most of the time you will know this because it force closes (FC's) like crazy, kind of like restoring system data with Titanium Backup (tibu).
Once you are on a custom ROM, you can usually flash any new versions without wiping data, and in return all your settings/apps/data is still there after the flash. I usually do this unless the Dev says to do a wipe in the instructions.
Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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Aquethys said:
Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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CWM or Clockwork Mod is a recovery platform that is loaded before the Android OS comes up if you press the correct keys. It's used to flash custom ROMS, do a full system backup, wiping and recovery, and some other fun things.
Tibu is designed to backup and restore almost anything in the Android OS itself, ie, apps, settings, and also other fun things like freezing, uninstalling, etc. I say "designed to" because I've never seen Tibu successfully restore system data or apps. The only things I use Tibu for are backing up and restoring of User apps and data, this is helpful when flashing. From a clean install I can usually be back to normal in about 10 minutes using Tibu and then manually entering my google account info, wireless info, ringtones, etc.
You have the ability to wipe from the settings menu, but when flashing new roms it's better to do it from CWM as this wipes your data and cache. Some Devs recommend to wipe the Dalvik Cache also, which can only be done in CWM.
Hope that helps.

restore probs in titnanium backup pro

hey can someone help me with my restore.. i cannot restore .. when ever i restore the phone reboots.. plz ny help from ny one plz
Are you restoring system Data? If so then don't restore system data
Any custom ROM?
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I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
intel007 said:
I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
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i tried to install the app from market it still rebooted
intel007 said:
I have found that some apps hang when restoring, no matter with data or app only, I think some apps just don't like being backed up or restored.
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I asked the titanium devs why I couldn't restore system apps, it just hangs. They said they do not support backing up and restoring system apps and that they provide disclaimers saying this.
I think the advertising of titanium makes it sound like this function is one of its main features so I was disappointed with this.
Scott
scott_doyland said:
the titanium devs why said they do not support backing up and restoring system apps and that they provide disclaimers saying this.
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It's not an issue with system apps its random.
I can push apps to system, back them up, restore them and even do the same with native system apps so I'm pretty sure that's not it.
Even trying to restore certain games causes titanium to hang eg. Angry birds.
Maybe its more of an issue backing up rather than restoring.

Titanium Backup Problem migrating from 4.1.2 to 4.2.1 Jellytime ROM

Recently, I moved from 4.1.2 custom ROM (JellyTime) to 4.2.1. Previosly i made a system-app+data backup.
When I was restoring my apps+data in the new ROM it asked me for introducing a passphrase in order to recover data. The problem here is that i never set up any password for encrypt data.
Is there a default passphrase?
If I only restore apps, it works like a charm, but data is another story...
please need help. Thx in advance.
Don't know what the exact problem is, but I strongly suggest you to not restore data between ROMs. Restore apps if you want, but avoid data. It can cause a host of problems and FCs. Especially don't restore data between major version changes like 4.1 to 4.2.
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I've only had issues restoring data when I go from AOSP ICS+ to Sense gingerbread. For the most part you should be completely fine
However, restoring system apps and data can cause problems if you don't know what you're doing.
sashank said:
Don't know what the exact problem is, but I strongly suggest you to not restore data between ROMs. Restore apps if you want, but avoid data. It can cause a host of problems and FCs. Especially don't restore data between major version changes like 4.1 to 4.2.
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But I always thought, that backup your data is the only way of restoring your data when switching ROMs. Is there another preferred way of keeping your data? Or do I always have to type in my several hundred contacts, again?
HTCKnight said:
But I always thought, that backup your data is the only way of restoring your data when switching ROMs. Is there another preferred way of keeping your data? Or do I always have to type in my several hundred contacts, again?
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I usually sync contacts with Google.
Yes, I am agreed with sashank, never restore data in different rom, even if it is a different version of the same rom. That will mess it up.
Just restore apps...

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