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What is a good method to restore data and apps after flashimg new ROM?

I came over from windows mobile and am some what of an android noob. After you flash a ROM is there anyway to restore apps so they dont lose data, I dont want to start over on amgry birds.
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I use MyBackupPro, there's also Titanium Backup. Both are paid applications in the market.

spf2722 said:
I came over from windows mobile and am some what of an android noob. After you flash a ROM is there anyway to restore apps so they dont lose data, I dont want to start over on amgry birds.
Engage slippyfist!
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Using Clockwork Recovery (check development forums), and depending on the flashing instructions, I usually:
save the rom to Sdcard/
boot into clockwork
backup and restore > backup (makes a full backup)
Wipe Data, (clear cache if they tell you to),
apply zip (rom) from SD
then back to Backup and Restore > advanced > select your backup > restore Data only.
Then reboot, and you should be good to go with your saved Angry Birds game

Mybackup pro worked like a charm.
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Mybackup works well but you on't want to backup and restore data if you frequently switch roms/kernels. So if it's just the apk you are trying to save then astro more than gets the job done.
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johnyardavid said:
Mybackup works well but you on't want to backup and restore data if you frequently switch roms/kernels. So if it's just the apk you are trying to save then astro more than gets the job done.
Epic Proportions
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I think he has the .apk and wants to keep his progress in the game withoout starting over after switching ROMs

daddymikey1975 said:
I think he has the .apk and wants to keep his progress in the game withoout starting over after switching ROMs
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Lol, that's what I get for not paying attention to the op.

Titanium Backup Pro will restore your backup with one click. It has saved countless hours from switching ROMS all the time. It is well worth it to get the paid app because you can let it start restoring and walk away. The free app requires you to click "Yes" to restore each app, one at a time.
I also use the back up and restore feature of LauncherPro so I don't have to keep redoing my home screen setups.
Once you have these two apps in play you don't have to be shy about trying as many different ROMs as possible.

dennistpm said:
Titanium Backup Pro will restore your backup with one click. It has saved countless hours from switching ROMS all the time. It is well worth it to get the paid app because you can let it start restoring and walk away. The free app requires you to click "Yes" to restore each app, one at a time.
I also use the back up and restore feature of LauncherPro so I don't have to keep redoing my home screen setups.
Once you have these two apps in play you don't have to be shy about trying as many different ROMs as possible.
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But, devs and contributors keep saying,
Don't restore system stuff or apps + data using Titanium, it will cause issues
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Is APK Batch Installer, [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531880 ], a better option ?
Or, in the end all data restoring is not a good idea if switching between android versions?

All data restorations can cause problems, not just TB.
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Whats is a general guide when changing ROMs?

Hey
Whats a "general guide" when changing ROMS? I Have titanium backup installed on my Android. I wouldnt like to go thru configuring everything again and most importantly would like to keep my applications, settings, sync, calanadar, contacts, messages, etc....

These are the steps that I usually take when flashing a new rom.
1. NANDroid backup of the current running ROM
2. Complete flash (Data, Davlik, Battery, Cache)
3. Flash new ROM and boot
4. Go through the configuration screens (if any) and land on the homescreen
5. Perform a complete reboot (no fastboot from HTC, make sure it's a complete shut down and reboot)
6. Sync contacts and calendar from Gmail
7. Sync Facebook (if applicable)
8. Redownload apps and reconfigure
I am not a fan of Titanium for restoring settings and configuration if going to another dev or another ROM. It's fine if you are reflashing the same ROM, but I find stories of people who have tried to restore their configuration settings with Titanium and have headaches. Better to just take the time to reconfigure manually than to cut corners. I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
Have fun!

I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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You back it up incase the new rom does not work, so you have something to fall back to! I only keep my backups for a day then there deleted (Apart from the stock rom)
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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tronmech said:
Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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Yep, totally agree. Also, I only keep 1 nandroid or so on my SD, and move others to my PC.

Athrun88 said:
I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
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Is there a way to generate this list?

riahc3 said:
Is there a way to generate this list?
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I use titanium backup (free version) and have never had a problem. Just backup your apps and there is your list when you flash a new rom and redownload titanium. Then you can choose which apps you want to reload by choosing "batch" which makes it easier to reinstall all the apps quickly.
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Seems like a waste of time till you have a botched flash. It takes 5 min to backup, and saves you a TON of time if something messes up.
For OP:
1) Go to Titanium Backup, backup all apps (not system data, unless moving from one ROM to a fresh version of the same ROM).
2) Enter recovery
3) Make Nandroid backup. It will automatically be given a date and generic name (rename when you get back into ROM Manager)
4) Wipe cache/dalvik data/Factory reset
5) Flash new ROM, applicable kernels you want, etc.
6) Boot, install TB, restore apps (NOT system data!)
7) Fix permissions with ROM Manager, Reboot, etc. as the ROM requires.
Like I said, the only way you can keep your settings, etc. is if you're backing up from a ROM and returning to the same ROM. Don't try to backup system data from a Sense build and restoring it to an AOSP build. Just gonna have to deal with reconfiguring your system it'll save you hassles of incompatibility. Contacts should be syncing to your main Gmail account, so once you add that to the new ROM everything will be imported back. As far as saving SMS and MMS, there are different apps for that.

Best way to make a full 100% backup of phone ?

Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..

Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/

ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.

pmcqueen said:
never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all

cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.

How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?

vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.

I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.

Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?

ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.

todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.

How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)

glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up

before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.

Titanium Backup

Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?

Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Just curious, did you allow root when you first launched Titanium Backup? You might try removing it and installing again.

Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.

gabby131 said:
Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.
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YES, didn't even notice that. I usually say never restore System apps or system data with Tibu. It's great for 3rd party apps and data, but more often times it will end up giving you many FC's and leaving you with a generally unstable phone.

hello i have been using this rom,
freeze a app you would like then wait about 10 sec push the home key then restart the phone even tho TB doesnt stop deleting the app it has actually done it i think its a bug in this rom, when the phone powers on you will notice the app is gone, same steps for restoring if the app is big id wait longer before restarting.
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Then how do you install system apps?
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Aquethys said:
Then how do you install system apps?
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requires some work...you can unpack those system apps from the stock rom and push it to /system/app....
not guaranteed to work, you might end up reflashing....do it on your risk....

Is osimood applied over the rogers rom or replace?
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It should replace the existing ROM, sort of. When going from a stock ROM to custom I always do a wipe data/factory reset in CWM. Then when you flash the new ROM, it's basically replacing the stock ROM. I said sort of, because sometime if you don't wipe the data, when you flash the new ROM some of your old data may still be lingering around. Most of the time you will know this because it force closes (FC's) like crazy, kind of like restoring system data with Titanium Backup (tibu).
Once you are on a custom ROM, you can usually flash any new versions without wiping data, and in return all your settings/apps/data is still there after the flash. I usually do this unless the Dev says to do a wipe in the instructions.

Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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Aquethys said:
Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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CWM or Clockwork Mod is a recovery platform that is loaded before the Android OS comes up if you press the correct keys. It's used to flash custom ROMS, do a full system backup, wiping and recovery, and some other fun things.
Tibu is designed to backup and restore almost anything in the Android OS itself, ie, apps, settings, and also other fun things like freezing, uninstalling, etc. I say "designed to" because I've never seen Tibu successfully restore system data or apps. The only things I use Tibu for are backing up and restoring of User apps and data, this is helpful when flashing. From a clean install I can usually be back to normal in about 10 minutes using Tibu and then manually entering my google account info, wireless info, ringtones, etc.
You have the ability to wipe from the settings menu, but when flashing new roms it's better to do it from CWM as this wipes your data and cache. Some Devs recommend to wipe the Dalvik Cache also, which can only be done in CWM.
Hope that helps.

[Q] titanium backup - dumb question

I have never used Titanium Backup before for actual backups of apps. I have used it only to wipe cache data for gmail when the system was dumb and said none was in use.
So here's my dumb question: Titanium backup can backup apps prior to a full factory reset, including dalvik cache, and then restore those apps and their settings after a new ROM is installed, including having the market be aware that said apps are installed (for updating purposes and such)?
Are there any special settings or hangups to be aware of?

[email protected] question but if you have problems click menu then preferences or settings, forgot which, but scroll down to the bottom it'll say if you're haviing problems etc.. click or touch that and click indirect android installer or whatever and when you go to restore apps click restore then app only and then once you've installed the app then go back to the app in titanium back up and click restore then data only..
I had a problem with TB only on ics where I had to do this
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dumb Q pt 2
I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?

tigerknight said:
I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?
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only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues

tazfanatic said:
only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues
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Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system

jbadboy2007 said:
Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system
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True but not what he is doing

U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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LORDFIRE00 said:
U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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It is never a good idea to restore system stuff but it does not matter MTD or BML...it is the same apps just on a different partition...thing FAT32 and NTFS...programs don't care which you use.
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Hope this helps..what I do is use "App Monster PRO". As you download apps....it back them up automatically. But it has to be the "pro" version. The free one s*cks. Go to 4shared.com in the search bar enter " app monster apk". Then download the 2.0 version. Good luck.
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