I have S-Off my DHD and try flashing new ROMs, it worked properly. But must I actually turn that S "On" back? What is this actually? I understand it has something to do with radio. Does it mean that if I turn S-Off, I am unable to receive or call others? Texting? etc.
By the way, I am planning to change my ROMs into Android Revolution HD, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040, but it says that they recommend me not to flash using ClockWork Recovery. Can I still do it??
S-OFF just means Security Off. It does not stop you making calls or texting.
There is no reason to change it back to S-ON, unless maybe you are trying to get your handset repaired under warranty or something.
Just keep S-OFF, It does not cause any trouble or bad result...
OOO.. ok, got it. thank you!
If you want to do some reading, this link explains S-OFF and more in nice detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Chezbel, thank you for providing me that link. I've just read it. Now I got a bigger picture of it. Thank you! x)
You're welcome! I also found that link very informative.
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So I will be unrooting my phone tonight so I can take it to sprint tomorrow. Before I do the unroot can someome please clear some confusion up for me? Ok so I rooted with 3.21 the other day. I have read and watched the video by djr3z regarding the unroot in 2 steps. I know he says you need to use the s-on tool only if you used UR forever... which i did not use. As I read on further, people were saying sometimes the boot loader says s-off even though it is not off which mine is s-off. So I noticed that guide was posted on the 12th prior to 3.21 being released so I'm not sure if anything changed. So my sort but sweet question is do I need to apply the s-on zip prior to actually unrooting? Sorry for so much crap but i have been searching and can't get a precise answer..Anyways anyone who can clear this up for me would be the man or woman! As always THANKS!
Maybe I should have put this in the general section.. oops.
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So I will be unrooting my phone tonight so I can take it to sprint tomorrow. Before I do the unroot can someome please clear some confusion up for me? Ok so I rooted with 3.21 the other day. I have read and watched the video by djr3z regarding the unroot in 2 steps. I know he says you need to use the s-on tool only if you used UR forever... which i did not use. As I read on further, people were saying sometimes the boot loader says s-off even though it is not off which mine is s-off. So I noticed that guide was posted on the 12th prior to 3.21 being released so I'm not sure if anything changed. So my sort but sweet question is do I need to apply the s-on zip prior to actually unrooting? Sorry for so much crap but i have been searching and can't get a precise answer..Anyways anyone who can clear this up for me would be the man or woman! As always THANKS!
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Flash the s-on file. It might still say s-off on your boot screen, but after you flash the rom it should then say s-on. So in short, yes, use the s-on file.
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Flash the s-on file. It might still say s-off on your boot screen, but after you flash the rom it should then say s-on. So in short, yes, use the s-on file.
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Thank you very much!
im confused on WHY ITS SO FREAKING HARD to post in the correct section
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im confused on WHY ITS SO FREAKING HARD to post in the correct section
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Sorry man I had a brain fart and accidentally posted it here. Once I realized it was already too late. I'll pay more attention next time!
I'm afraid you might be still slightly confused. the S-off you're seeing is more likely part of the ENG Bootloader instead of the same as the unrevoked s-off
both do the same thing, but the eng bootloader needs to be replaced for the s-on to re-appear.
That's initially what I was thinking too since I installed Unrevoked 3.21 NOT Unrevoked forever. Installing the s-on just for ****s and giggles wouldn't hurt anything right? I just don't want to unroot and then realize it still has s-off, then have to re root and start over. Any thoughts?
no, it shouldnt hurt anything. Just might not solve your problem if its the bootloader that is s-off
hey everyone. I am a bit confused, and i would greatly appreciate your help. So I have a Desire Z from bell. Currently this is what I see when i hold vol down, and power:
Vision PVT SHIP S-ON
H-Boot- 0.81.0000
Microp- 0425
eMMc- boot
Sep 2 2010.17:59:38
So I want to get it back to stock. simply just like out of the box. I do have a back up, BUT it still keeps clock work mod recovery. Which I want to get rid of too. like I said JUST LIKE OUT OF THE BOX. So i was doing some research, and I found that a way to do that is to flash to spf file. I dont really know what that is, but I am assuming it a complete stock rom? (correct me, thank you.) So If any of you could provide me with that file, or tell me how to go about doing this, I would be very very thankful. Again, Thank you for all your help.
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hey everyone. I am a bit confused, and i would greatly appreciate your help. So I have a Desire Z from bell. Currently this is what I see when i hold vol down, and power:
Vision PVT SHIP S-ON
H-Boot- 0.81.0000
Microp- 0425
eMMc- boot
Sep 2 2010.17:59:38
So I want to get it back to stock. simply just like out of the box. I do have a back up, BUT it still keeps clock work mod recovery. Which I want to get rid of too. like I said JUST LIKE OUT OF THE BOX. So i was doing some research, and I found that a way to do that is to flash to spf file. I dont really know what that is, but I am assuming it a complete stock rom? (correct me, thank you.) So If any of you could provide me with that file, or tell me how to go about doing this, I would be very very thankful. Again, Thank you for all your help.
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Hmm not sure what that spf method is. Simply find the thread with all pc10img.zips in it, and find your stock rom. Flash in the bootloader and your good to go!
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Hmm not sure what that spf method is. Simply find the thread with all pc10img.zips in it, and find your stock rom. Flash in the bootloader and your good to go!
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omg thank you. that makes sense. the only thing is how do I find the right one?
This is what I see in my software information:
Android Version: 2.2
Baseband Version: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.21
Build number: 1.34.666.5
Software number:1.34.666.5
Btw doing this will get rid of clockwork mod too right? THANK YOU!!!!
Do you have a g2 buddy? Or is it a desire? If it's g2 i can definitely help ya Edit: LOL nevermind i see that its a desire z. Go to this page....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#ROMs
Hopefully that at least gets ya in the right direction cause i dont know much about desire z
If your phone has been updated with an ota, it might not be so easy to install a pc10img unless the pc10img IS the ota update. The phone not being rooted and s-on will not let you "downgrade" versions. There may be an easier way, but if you can't simply flash a pc10img, you may have to actually go through all the steps to root/s-off it, THEN you can install the original pc10img.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge with me will just know how to flash the stock recovery if nothing else for you. Here's hoping!
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If your phone has been updated with an ota, it might not be so easy to install a pc10img unless the pc10img IS the ota update. The phone not being rooted and s-on will not let you "downgrade" versions. There may be an easier way, but if you can't simply flash a pc10img, you may have to actually go through all the steps to root/s-off it, THEN you can install the original pc10img.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge with me will just know how to flash the stock recovery if nothing else for you. Here's hoping!
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k so right now i am just gonna s-off. then i will try the pc10img again. hopefully it will work, and i will be back to how it was out of the box. without clockwork and root and etc.Thank you so far.
Your welcome. Even after you flash the pc10img it will still be s-off. Just follow the directions that wiki page i gave you to put s back on. It will involve getting temp root on your new stock rom, and having gfree put s back on. Dont worry, it cleans up and does not leave ANY trace that you did the temp root (if you have to send it back or something). Let me know how it goes! I'm watching this in case you need help.
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Your welcome. Even after you flash the pc10img it will still be s-off. Just follow the directions that wiki page i gave you to put s back on. It will involve getting temp root on your new stock rom, and having gfree put s back on. Dont worry, it cleans up and does not leave ANY trace that you did the temp root (if you have to send it back or something). Let me know how it goes! I'm watching this in case you need help.
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okay so far i have turned s-off. it was a bit of a process but i did it. now i need the pc10img. i am having trouble finding the right one. i looked at the forum u gave me, but i still dont understand which one i should use. btw i have my desire z with bell. i also gave some information above. so what do u suggest?
you would want your hboot to say s on instead of s-off if you are returning to stock
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you would want your hboot to say s on instead of s-off if you are returning to stock
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You even confused me with that one. If he was s-on and that start of all of this, the hboot s-stuff has nothing to do with it. Even if it did, installing the pc10img will replace the hboot with the correct one. He used gfree (i think) to get s-off.
I'm sorry OP if i had a desire i would be able to give u the right version to install If you look in the main dev forum i'm sure there is a topic called return desire to stock, and find the pc10img that they recommend. That would be my next suggestion since i really dont know about that phone
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You even confused me with that one. If he was s-on and that start of all of this, the hboot s-stuff has nothing to do with it. Even if it did, installing the pc10img will replace the hboot with the correct one. He used gfree (i think) to get s-off.
I'm sorry OP if i had a desire i would be able to give u the right version to install If you look in the main dev forum i'm sure there is a topic called return desire to stock, and find the pc10img that they recommend. That would be my next suggestion since i really dont know about that phone
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I searched a lot. i think my brain is going to explode. I just cant find the right RUU. i tried a couple and they all turn in to error [158] image error. I am so confused at this moment.
I tried RUU_Vision_BellMobility_WWE_1.34.666.1_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154437_signed.exe which should work. but it still says error 158. i dont know how to get through this.
okay so i am unrooting now. BUT another roadblock. hboot wont install pc10img it says parsing then returns to the main menu of hboot. i have double checked everything, the image is legit, and the name is fine. when i try to install it through clockwork it says error (bad). i am confused. i will appreciate any help. if u need the firmware info and all, please look at the first few posts.
Ok guys might need a bit of help..
Not too familiar with this handset really but flashed my phones a million times without problems...till I set about the missus's phone yesterday.
Its a 3 UK branded desire..was HBoot 0.83
Went through the S-Off/root/Recovery/Hboot upgrade procedures...and all looked good.
Till I came to actually flashing ROMs.. and tried a couple. Just bootlooped on the AlphaRev screen for all.
So decided to drop back to stock through HBoot... the stock ROM flashes with apparently no errors reported, but again fails to boot. And AlphaRev HBoot doesn't get overwritten..although Recovery's gone.
Anyone know how to proceed?
First of all by reading the tutorials carefully before proceed, to avoid any trouble
Get the latest RUU for your Desire (3UK) and save it somewhere.
Before you flash it, download the HBOOT Downgrader from Alpharev.nl.
Flash the Downgrader first, then the RUU.
And what do you mean the recovery is gone? Are you still S-OFF? You can flash a recovery with the Android Flasher tool in the Development secton.
And What ROMs did you try that all failed you?
You probably forget one ot two steps when flashing.
Ain't no noob buddy so need to cut and paste the standard response guys!
Did all them things so that's why I'm asking..and yes despite being over flashed with the RUU s-off is still there. That's what I meant by the alphrev hboot not being overwritten.
However..the downgradues worth a try....
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Ain't no noob buddy so need to cut and paste the standard response guys!
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And that's how being rude will cut the number of replies you get...
No rudeness intended..but RTFM is no help either under the circumstances.
I've been doing this for years since my tytn.
I really appreciate the help I really do..the downgrade suggestion ain't in the guide...and seems a good idea. Will try soon as I'm home.
Ha. It ain't going well... worse in fact.
Downgraded HBoot and flashed RUU...screen won't turn on. But RUU can still just talk to it. Flashing again. But still the same.
Vol down makes it vibrate now...but not much else!!
Edit: Hum...my first brick I think! Think the wife might be gettin an upgrade.
Edit again: Screen blank but the RUU program still sees the phone. Fails to revive it mind you. Only outward sign of life is a pulse vibrate on the power button being depressed after a battery pull. Anyone seen this?
Slcd brick?
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
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Slcd brick?
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
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Elaborate my friend? The 0.83 bootloader might indicate it has a sLCD... but only might I understand. Is there a history of issues with SLCD screens?
I gotta go to work..in Holland..but I'll still be checking in here for any information. It may very well be bricked but I'm still interested from a technical aspect.
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Elaborate my friend? The 0.83 bootloader might indicate it has a sLCD... but only might I understand. Is there a history of issues with SLCD screens?
I gotta go to work..in Holland..but I'll still be checking in here for any information. It may very well be bricked but I'm still interested from a technical aspect.
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Which RUU did you flash? If your phone has a SLCD screen, it might be a possibility that you've flashed an AMOLED RUU to your SLCD. Thus you will get a SLCD brick which makes you unable to view anything on the screen but the phone is working normally. It's reversible by following a SLCD unbrick guide.
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Elaborate my friend? The 0.83 bootloader might indicate it has a sLCD... but only might I understand. Is there a history of issues with SLCD screens?
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This is all basic, well documented stuff you seem to be completely unaware of. Perhaps RTFM is exactly what's needed here.
Thankyou very much indeed to those who who pointed me in the direction of slcd. Now I know what to search on finding the information I need is straight forward. Really good stuff.
Thanks very much too to those who provided the ex-wife service too. Unfortunately I always know where to get advice like that
Okay, this is a quick and probably stupid question. I just used jcase's method to return my phone to stock (now it's running Froyo, and I declined the GB upgrade). I have to return it under warranty, but I just want to confirm that they won't find anything wrong with it. Is the recovery overwritten? I know I am S-ON so is that enough? Thank you so much for your help!
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Okay, this is a quick and probably stupid question. I just used jcase's method to return my phone to stock (now it's running Froyo, and I declined the GB upgrade). I have to return it under warranty, but I just want to confirm that they won't find anything wrong with it. Is the recovery overwritten? I know I am S-ON so is that enough? Thank you so much for your help!
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if ur s-on ur good.
S-On
I'm going to follow up with another stupid question.. if i get S-Off from Alpharev, is there a way to return it back to S-on? i know with the original Dinc there was an S-on Zip.. i know they're completely different phones, but can i use that to S-on again? is there something in ADB to redo it?
If i get S-off.. i DO want to keep it, i'm just talking about warrenty purposes..
Ya I found that out right after.. my Googling skills were weak for a little bit then i realized i couldnt find anything to return it to stock because i had Dunc 2 written instead of Dinc 2... and Google apparently found it funny to not give me the Suggested search...
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo and follow it with jcase's guide (link in video description). I was anxious about messing something up but this was really easy.
Hey guys, looking for a little assistance with a problem I'm having with my dinc2. Everytime I boot the phone it gets stuck. The only way around it is to flash the boot.img for the rom I'm using. In this case it's MIUI 1.12.30. I'm S-on and HTC dev unlocked. Is this normal? Or is there a way that I can fix the phone so that it reboots all the way without having to be by my computer so I can flash the boot.img?
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Eric
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Hey guys, looking for a little assistance with a problem I'm having with my dinc2. Everytime I boot the phone it gets stuck. The only way around it is to flash the boot.img for the rom I'm using. In this case it's MIUI 1.12.30. I'm S-on and HTC dev unlocked. Is this normal? Or is there a way that I can fix the phone so that it reboots all the way without having to be by my computer so I can flash the boot.img?
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Eric
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That is normal for s-on HTC dev unlocked. If you would like to avoid it you will need to go s-off, which is not terribly difficult. Just follow the directions since I believe you will have to re-lock first.
Edit: I guess it's not normal on every boot...but going s-off is still likely to fix it.
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That is normal for s-on HTC dev unlocked. If you would like to avoid it you will need to go s-off, which is not terribly difficult. Just follow the directions since I believe you will have to re-lock first.
Edit: I guess it's not normal on every boot...but going s-off is still likely to fix it.
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Hmm....I've looked at going S-off and it looks a little intimidating. I'm not really clear on the instructions. That's why I didn't go there just yet.
Interestingly, I've rooted other HTC phones including my incredible 4g and haven't had the same booting issues.