So I will be unrooting my phone tonight so I can take it to sprint tomorrow. Before I do the unroot can someome please clear some confusion up for me? Ok so I rooted with 3.21 the other day. I have read and watched the video by djr3z regarding the unroot in 2 steps. I know he says you need to use the s-on tool only if you used UR forever... which i did not use. As I read on further, people were saying sometimes the boot loader says s-off even though it is not off which mine is s-off. So I noticed that guide was posted on the 12th prior to 3.21 being released so I'm not sure if anything changed. So my sort but sweet question is do I need to apply the s-on zip prior to actually unrooting? Sorry for so much crap but i have been searching and can't get a precise answer..Anyways anyone who can clear this up for me would be the man or woman! As always THANKS!
Maybe I should have put this in the general section.. oops.
wrapkgb said:
So I will be unrooting my phone tonight so I can take it to sprint tomorrow. Before I do the unroot can someome please clear some confusion up for me? Ok so I rooted with 3.21 the other day. I have read and watched the video by djr3z regarding the unroot in 2 steps. I know he says you need to use the s-on tool only if you used UR forever... which i did not use. As I read on further, people were saying sometimes the boot loader says s-off even though it is not off which mine is s-off. So I noticed that guide was posted on the 12th prior to 3.21 being released so I'm not sure if anything changed. So my sort but sweet question is do I need to apply the s-on zip prior to actually unrooting? Sorry for so much crap but i have been searching and can't get a precise answer..Anyways anyone who can clear this up for me would be the man or woman! As always THANKS!
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Flash the s-on file. It might still say s-off on your boot screen, but after you flash the rom it should then say s-on. So in short, yes, use the s-on file.
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Flash the s-on file. It might still say s-off on your boot screen, but after you flash the rom it should then say s-on. So in short, yes, use the s-on file.
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Thank you very much!
im confused on WHY ITS SO FREAKING HARD to post in the correct section
Sporkman said:
im confused on WHY ITS SO FREAKING HARD to post in the correct section
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Sorry man I had a brain fart and accidentally posted it here. Once I realized it was already too late. I'll pay more attention next time!
I'm afraid you might be still slightly confused. the S-off you're seeing is more likely part of the ENG Bootloader instead of the same as the unrevoked s-off
both do the same thing, but the eng bootloader needs to be replaced for the s-on to re-appear.
That's initially what I was thinking too since I installed Unrevoked 3.21 NOT Unrevoked forever. Installing the s-on just for ****s and giggles wouldn't hurt anything right? I just don't want to unroot and then realize it still has s-off, then have to re root and start over. Any thoughts?
no, it shouldnt hurt anything. Just might not solve your problem if its the bootloader that is s-off
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I have been having random reboot problems for weeks and no matter what I try I cant get it to stop. So I have tried to get back to unrooted stock so i can return. I have unrooted 2.2 on my device now, but i have s-off. From what I have heard I need s-on in order to return it.
Can anyone help me on this ?
I had hoped that going back to stock ROM's would stop the rebooting, but it has not. I still get the random reboots. sometimes it reboots a few times and then goes dead on me. I have to remove the battery and sd card to just get it to turn back on again... ugh
Hank
Guess you never read Unrevoked when they said that S-OFF is permanent for the time being and that they didn't know if they would be able to turn it back on. Your best bet is to say you lost it file a lost/stolen report with the police pay the insurance deductible get the new phone and sell the old one with bad ESN for sprint.
I just reflashed 2.1 via the first step of the how to root 2.2 method by regaw. 2.1 was always much more stable for me. it was when i went to 2.2 that i started having all the issues. and I thought that you could go s-on with 2.1 using the latest unrevoked. but i could have read that wrong.
I just looked at there site and it looks like I was wrong they have a S-on tool now
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
yeah, i read that. i dont see where it says how to turn it back to s-on though. only really talks about s-off. it does say there is a tool to turn back on. i assume that is in the custom recovery somewhere ?
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yeah, i read that. i dont see where it says how to turn it back to s-on though. only really talks about s-off. it does say there is a tool to turn back on. i assume that is in the custom recovery somewhere ?
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It's the same as flashing unrevoked
Forever. Just flash the zip file in recovery.
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So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
Nothing.
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So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
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probably the fact they don't really care. why would that be a priority for them?
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probably the fact they don't really care. why would that be a priority for them?
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So is it just a coincidence that every OTA up to this point has broken root?
dallashigh said:
So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
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HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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So is it just a coincidence that every OTA up to this point has broken root?
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ViViDboarder said:
HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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what he said... further. root methods represent legitimate security holes in the software. s-off doesn't
ViViDboarder said:
HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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It may enable the security but it won't break them by any means, they could easily leave a backdoor on their devices that would allow it to be disabled again
I don't understand why everyone's worried HTC will S-on everyone, who unlocks there phone and flashes official OTA's
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I don't understand why everyone's worried HTC will S-on everyone, who unlocks there phone and flashes official OTA's
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Kind of a noob to the Evo (gave up my nexus today) I looked around but didn't see anything so sorry to ask but, what is this s-on s-off stuff about anyway?
polo79 said:
Kind of a noob to the Evo (gave up my nexus today) I looked around but didn't see anything so sorry to ask but, what is this s-on s-off stuff about anyway?
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Here's the thread about S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752163
Hello,
I am extremely new to this process and recently just rooted my EVO and would like to know the proper procedures to return my phone to stock if there is an issue eventually with my phone. I rooted using UnrEVOked3 and have the custom recovery installed when it was rooted. I did run a back up recovery right after I rooted.
I tried to figure it out on my own by flashing the RUU that was on theunlockr's site and it worked but was hesitant to run the OTA software update with "S-OFF" still activated. So I rerooted my phone and tried their "S-ON utility but now can’t run the RUU due to a bootloader error. I tried searching but there is so many threads about it that it gets confusing so I figured I would ask directly what my steps should be.
A couple questions:
Should my next step be rerooting the phone and then running the RUU?
Will running a RUU and then running an OTA update be ok if “S-OFF” is still activated?
Will running an OTA update turn “S-OFF” back to “S-ON”?
After I return complete stock can I reroot in the future if I want?
My Bootloader at this time looks like this:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-04if
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.05.00.06.10
Oct 15 2010, 10:07:00
Sorry for being so new about this but any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
(EDIT: I just read the first post in this thread topic and I'm going to try that since it seems like I'm halfway there. Sorry for killing a kitten lol)
Lol its all good man did you get all your answers or you need help?
~ d3rk
The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?
b2project said:
The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?
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Yes you can! Many people unroot when they drop by sprint for whatever reasons, then they root all over again. Me, I'm a rebel, I give the reps my phone with cm7 on it lol.
~ d3rk
b2project said:
The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?
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Yea you can. Just re-run unrevoked.
Thanks, if I run into any issues when I run the PC36IMG I'll be back
Ok so i know that gingerbread doesnt have root yet, but i installed the mod for the sense launcher it didnt work but my s-on isnt on its off... i dont know if this means anything to anybody ill upload a pictureee. Does this mean we might be closer to root?
i think i uploaded the picture ?
Yup. U r a lucky Guy. Put a copy of amon RA onto the root of ur SD card. Boot onto the bootloader and when it asks if u want to update say yes. U will then be able to flash whatever u like
If you were s-off before, you should still be s-off after. I have two s-off EVOs that I was going to sell, so I restored them to latest OTA (yea I'm a jerk!) but they stayed s-off (lucky for those when I do decide to sell).
I don't get the point of this, unless you had an S-ON phone and somehow got it S-OFF after the 2.16 hboot and 2.3.3 android upgrade.
YES! thats the thing! I unrooted, got the gingerbread update, after installation and what not it said S-ON. now it says s-off and i have no idea what i did, i been doing so much crap to my phone i dotn even remember what i did. I wanted to try the sense launcher from tommytomatoe and it froze my phone and couldnt do nothing. So i pressed power volume down and it now said s-off.
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YES! thats the thing! I unrooted, got the gingerbread update, after installation and what not it said S-ON. now it says s-off and i have no idea what i did, i been doing so much crap to my phone i dotn even remember what i did. I wanted to try the sense launcher from tommytomatoe and it froze my phone and couldnt do nothing. So i pressed power volume down and it now said s-off.
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If what you say is true, you might be able to help the rooting effort by pulling some info off your phone that could be valuable to the devs. I would explain the situation to them, and offer whatever info they need from your phone.
They'll probably call shenanigans on you-- I know I would. But maybe-- just maybe, your Evo carries the mutant X gene that we need to crack this puzzle.
Nice man! maybe just maybe your phone is the "root" of all hahahahaha
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If what you say is true, you might be able to help the rooting effort by pulling some info off your phone that could be valuable to the devs. I would explain the situation to them, and offer whatever info they need from your phone.
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This!
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scoot16 said:
Ok so i know that gingerbread doesnt have root yet, but i installed the mod for the sense launcher it didnt work but my s-on isnt on its off... i dont know if this means anything to anybody ill upload a pictureee. Does this mean we might be closer to root?
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Did you have root before at all? Did you use Unrevoked3 to root before? If you did, how did you unroot?
Yes i used unrevoke 3 to root but i installed a stock froyo ruu unrooted because after i tried to unroot with unrevoked it didnt work. After i installed the froyo ruu it said S-ON, i then went on to install gingerbread, went back to check the hboot to see if everything was right and it still said S-ON, then i went thru every process to root my phone just to see if i could try soemthing but failed of course. I then wanted to try tommytomatoe sense launcher for unrooted and after my phone froze alot i went to clear data by pressing power and volume down. That is when i saw it was S-OFF. do you want to know anythingg else?
Please unroot again and post pics , you are still trying to unroot are you not. Go go.
Im cant unroot, im not even rooted, im running stock gingerbread ota 4.24.651.1
Did you flash the s-on tool when you unrooted?
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Did you flash the s-on tool when you unrooted?
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Yes sir. I did all that was needed to unroot my phone.
Don't think running a ruu will turn s-on. Once you are s-off, you are s-off until you run the s-on tool. Correct me if I am wrong.
Swyped from my Supersonic
i am so tempted to try this....
can you provide the link to this tommytomato mod , at this point, i dont care if i brick my evo ill just go harass sprint and get a refurb or something if i do
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i am so tempted to try this....
can you provide the link to this tommytomato mod , at this point, i dont care if i brick my evo ill just go harass sprint and get a refurb or something if i do
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This didnt do nothing it was because of the mess up on my end did i go and find the s-on.
You need to write down everything you did and the order you did it. Also please provide the links that you used.
Also, was it the 4.22 or the 4.24 that you updated to?
*Edit* Nevermind I just saw your earlier post
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Yes i used unrevoke 3 to root but i installed a stock froyo ruu unrooted because after i tried to unroot with unrevoked it didnt work. After i installed the froyo ruu it said S-ON, i then went on to install gingerbread, went back to check the hboot to see if everything was right and it still said S-ON, then i went thru every process to root my phone just to see if i could try soemthing but failed of course. I then wanted to try tommytomatoe sense launcher for unrooted and after my phone froze alot i went to clear data by pressing power and volume down. That is when i saw it was S-OFF. do you want to know anythingg else?
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I say somehow some way when u attempted to re-root it went thru cuz that's the only logical way s-off could've been attained. Clearing ur data won't and u were s-on before u took the OTA update so it wasn't present before hand. Have you tried flashing another rom from recovery just to see if it works? You my friend maybe the "MVD" lol!!!
I went to the development section and looked at the guide for how to unroot the evo, and I downloaded the S-ON tool and went to download the pc36img and the file isnt there anymore.
I am scared to do anything in the fear of bricking this phone. I am not even sure on how to unroot it all and stuff.
I am not trolling, and I have actually looked. I am sorry I am just new to the root world.. I have to repair my phone tomorrow and I have to unroot it...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I went to the development section and looked at the guide for how to unroot the evo, and I downloaded the S-ON tool and went to download the pc36img and the file isnt there anymore.
I am scared to do anything in the fear of bricking this phone. I am not even sure on how to unroot it all and stuff.
I am not trolling, and I have actually looked. I am sorry I am just new to the root world.. I have to repair my phone tomorrow and I have to unroot it...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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What method did you use to root?
What Hboot version do you have?
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I went to the development section and looked at the guide for how to unroot the evo, and I downloaded the S-ON tool and went to download the pc36img and the file isnt there anymore.
I am scared to do anything in the fear of bricking this phone. I am not even sure on how to unroot it all and stuff.
I am not trolling, and I have actually looked. I am sorry I am just new to the root world.. I have to repair my phone tomorrow and I have to unroot it...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Ok a lil more information is needed. Also why are you unrooting....
If you are returning your phone just take an OTA update and it will unroot for you, Other methods and links when you post some info on bootloader and previous root method used.. FYI - there are threads in development for both unrooting methods
Edit: Here you go my friend all I put in was unroot htc evo in google and dont be scared its not difficult at all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17028070
sorry for lack of info guys, thank you very much for your replys! I will definitely thank both of you guys!
Info when I boot into hboot is
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.0808
Oct 15 2010, 12:07:00
I wanna say I did it by unrevoked s-off tool, I just connected it to my computer and it basically did it for me.
Sorry again for being naive lol.... thanks!
and I am running AmonRA for recovery.
AND as far as the How to UNROOT in 2 steps post, the PC36img is not available anymore.
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sorry for lack of info guys, thank you very much for your replys! I will definitely thank both of you guys!
Info when I boot into hboot is
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-2.15.00.0808
Oct 15 2010, 12:07:00
I wanna say I did it by unrevoked s-off tool, I just connected it to my computer and it basically did it for me.
Sorry again for being naive lol.... thanks!
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Alright, flash the s-on.zip via your custom recovery. [ra or clockwork]
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/current/unrevoked-forever-son.zip
Download this file and rename it PC36IMG [keep it a zip file].
PC36IMG.zip [not PC36IMG.zip.zip]
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MUSAURP7
Put in on the root of your SDCARD.
Load into your bootloader and accept the update.
Done.
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and I am running AmonRA for recovery.
AND as far as the How to UNROOT in 2 steps post, the PC36img is not available anymore.
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you can also find an RUU and it will do the same thing but go to the unrevoked site and they have info on how to unroot
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You have an easy phone to root and unroot, if you relax follow directions to the letter you will see its all pretty simple.
Try this link http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
okay thanked for all your posts guys! Thank you very much. Is there any chance to brick my phone if I do somehow mess this up or anything?
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I went to the development section and looked at the guide for how to unroot the evo, and I downloaded the S-ON tool and went to download the pc36img and the file isnt there anymore.
I am scared to do anything in the fear of bricking this phone. I am not even sure on how to unroot it all and stuff.
I am not trolling, and I have actually looked. I am sorry I am just new to the root world.. I have to repair my phone tomorrow and I have to unroot it...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Or like I said you can check your phone for updates. If it takes it will unroot your phone for you as well.
JonHoneycutt said:
okay thanked for all your posts guys! Thank you very much. Is there any chance to brick my phone if I do somehow mess this up or anything?
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You're not going to brick your phone when doing this as long as you allow the process to complete and power is maintained throughout the process..
with my baseband being RADIO-2.15.00.0808 will i need to downgrade radio or anything before doing all this?
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with my baseband being RADIO-2.15.00.0808 will i need to downgrade radio or anything before doing all this?
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did you check to see if an OTA is available for you. Could save you some time and worries. Also I do not believe you have to worry about your radio although I have seen some people have an issue. I would give it a try first...
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with my baseband being RADIO-2.15.00.0808 will i need to downgrade radio or anything before doing all this?
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I believe you mean 04.08 and that radio should be fine.
Try doing an OTA like playya has said if you don't feel comfortable with our methods.
it says there is no update for my phone under HTC updates...
so do you think its okay to go ahead and try the unrooting process and flash the PC36IMG.zip through hboot after running unrevoked tool and flashing that through recovery EVEN WITH my RADIO-2.15.00.0808?
no matty i just booted into hboot to check again and its 2.15.00.0808
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it says there is no update for my phone under HTC updates...
so do you think its okay to go ahead and try the unrooting process and flash the PC36IMG.zip through hboot after running unrevoked tool and flashing that through recovery EVEN WITH my RADIO-2.15.00.0808?
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You shouldn't have an issue.
If you really want you can downgrade the radio first.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2pjq2dhjv6ntxnh/EVO_Radio_2.15.00.11.19.zip
Flash it in your recovery.
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no matty i just booted into hboot to check again and its 2.15.00.0808
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Ah, I see that comes with the newest OTA.
I would downgrade just to make sure.
so go ahead and downgrade radio?
or should i be okay?
Just run this RUU
http://forum.smartphonejunkie.com/e...io-2-15-00-0808-nv-2-15-release-209995-a.html
It's the newest OTA.
Shouldn't have an issue with the radio.
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or should i be okay?
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Arent there two spots to check for updates on your phone...One says software update the other HTC, forgive I have not run stock since Sept of last year
Okay, this is a quick and probably stupid question. I just used jcase's method to return my phone to stock (now it's running Froyo, and I declined the GB upgrade). I have to return it under warranty, but I just want to confirm that they won't find anything wrong with it. Is the recovery overwritten? I know I am S-ON so is that enough? Thank you so much for your help!
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Okay, this is a quick and probably stupid question. I just used jcase's method to return my phone to stock (now it's running Froyo, and I declined the GB upgrade). I have to return it under warranty, but I just want to confirm that they won't find anything wrong with it. Is the recovery overwritten? I know I am S-ON so is that enough? Thank you so much for your help!
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if ur s-on ur good.
S-On
I'm going to follow up with another stupid question.. if i get S-Off from Alpharev, is there a way to return it back to S-on? i know with the original Dinc there was an S-on Zip.. i know they're completely different phones, but can i use that to S-on again? is there something in ADB to redo it?
If i get S-off.. i DO want to keep it, i'm just talking about warrenty purposes..
Ya I found that out right after.. my Googling skills were weak for a little bit then i realized i couldnt find anything to return it to stock because i had Dunc 2 written instead of Dinc 2... and Google apparently found it funny to not give me the Suggested search...
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlnWW8tsvo and follow it with jcase's guide (link in video description). I was anxious about messing something up but this was really easy.