[Q] Froyo Task Killer - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I updated my phone to EB13 and none of my task killers work. I was wondering what is the best task killer for froyo. Really all I want it for is to end touch wiz in the background because I use launcher pro.

Doesn't need task killer
Supposedly fro-yo does not need a task killer.

humdrum2009 said:
Supposedly fro-yo does not need a task killer.
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Yeah that's what I read, but it annoys me that I cant kill Touch Wiz. I hate Touch Wiz...

What are you talking about? ATK works perfectly for me.
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squshy 7 said:
What are you talking about? ATK works perfectly for me.
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ATK doesn't kill Touch Wiz

Tommo153 said:
ATK doesn't kill Touch Wiz
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uhhh, yeh it does.
make sure ATK security level is set to low so you can see all processes
look for "com." process that ends in twlauncher
kill

There is already a built in task killer on epic just hold down the home button an it brings it up in 2.2 I noticed it usually kills tasks anyway.

squshy 7 said:
uhhh, yeh it does.
make sure ATK security level is set to low so you can see all processes
look for "com." process that ends in twlauncher
kill
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Yup that worked. Thx

Tommo153 said:
Yup that worked. Thx
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Why not just delete TouchWiz altogether?

Any possible way to prevent apps from restarting 5 minutes after killing them?

Have you tried going to settings > Applications > Manage applications > ['All' tab] > TwLauncher then hitting force close? It is kind of a pain but if you only have to do it once its not too bad.

I fixed Touch Wiz but now all these apps that I never use are restarting after I kill them. My battery drains like crazy now compared to how it was in Eclair.

Tommo153 said:
I fixed Touch Wiz but now all these apps that I never use are restarting after I kill them. My battery drains like crazy now compared to how it was in Eclair.
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Make sure your Time Without Signal isn't higher than 50%. If it is then update your PRL and Profile and reboot. That drains the battery. You can also set some auto kill settings in ATK Froyo version.
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Which appk killer?

I'm confused which one to install...
advanced task killer
advanced task cleaner
there're so many, please advice. Thanks.
I use advanced Task killer, as do most people I beleive.
it works a treat.
any particular settings i shoud know?
not sure. I just it straight from install and works great. if you go INTO app killer you'll see lots of tick boxes, if you untick anything you don't want to kill it'll remember settings.
kmetek said:
I'm confused which one to install...
advanced task killer
advanced task cleaner
there're so many, please advice. Thanks.
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I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
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I don't want to argue, I ve read many articles on how android works but sometimes my phone lags so much I need to kill a few apps in background to get phone running normally.
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foxmeister said:
I'd suggest no task killer at all!
Regards,
Dave
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Seriously? but doesn't the Android OS burn battery life and keep stuff in memory and take resources?
2.2 is pretty good with memory management. I use Advanced Task Killer, but only for killing apps manually that are floating around. I don't use it for any kind of automatic task killing,
musiccontrolsus said:
Seriously? but doesn't the Android OS burn battery life and keep stuff in memory and take resources?
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Desire is my 3rd Android phone - I had a G1 and a Hero previously.
I used to use an automatic Task Killer initially when I had my G1, but I actually found it caused more problems than it solved. So, I stopped, and everything started working better.
If you are finding your phone lags, chances are that the issue is an errant app. Whilst "killing" it will relieve the symptoms, the real solution is to dump the app causing the problem.
Android *is* very good at resource management, if left alone to do it's own thing.
Regards,
Dave

What a good Auto Killer on EB13?

I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks
Overstew said:
I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks
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I think in 2.2, auto-killers have lost their touch, so says the changelog in Adao Task Manager app. It's harder for task managers to kill tasks on Froyo than on Eclair due to some system changes... i think...
I just use advanced killer for froyo
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Overstew said:
I used to use Adao Task Manager but on EB13, it seems that the autokill function is broken. I tried Auto Killer from the market and was told that didn't work either. Anyone have a preference on a good auto killer that'll increase battery life greatly?
Thanks
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Adao task manager still works for me on EB13. I'm careful to set certain things to ignore, but with that taken care of it seems to be working... unless some other black magic is occuring...
RandomKing said:
Adao task manager still works for me on EB13. I'm careful to set certain things to ignore, but with that taken care of it seems to be working... unless some other black magic is occuring...
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I do the same but it seems seconds later, programs seem to pop up on their own. If I wait a minute, its as if I never killed the tasks in the first place
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bighuta said:
I do the same but it seems seconds later, programs seem to pop up on their own. If I wait a minute, its as if I never killed the tasks in the first place
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This is because of code changes in Froyo. I keep a widget(process monitor widget from market) ans set it up the way i like it(excluding and including) then if it says an app is running i click the widget, click the app, click settings, and it takes you to the Manage Applications part for that app, then hit force stop. The widget is useful, but the app is useless now.
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I assume FroYo automatically kills apps then?
I'm using atk without a problem
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Stop Running Applications

Hey guys whats up?
i have many apps on my phone that never seem to stop. i kill them all but they come back again. its killing the ram on my defy.
any solution?
thanks
What you need is the autostarts app. Get it from market.
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Don't bother. Android will kill them if you ever need memory
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.
it's fine. That's how android works. it keeps app in memory and kill them when needed.
so dont worry
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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If u have many apps running, then kill the apps ...some apps don't restart...it helps reduce the lagging....if there are only few apps running then don't bother...if u use task killers excessively then ur battery will surely get drained
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popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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Normally you shouldn't have to use an application such as "Advanced Task Killer". Android is unix based so it should handle pretty good with apps that are "not doing anything but running in the background".
What you can do is try to exit some apps properly (not just pressing the back button) by going to the menu and actually clicking on the "Quit" if it's available.
Regards,
Whookid

Killing apps..

I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
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Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.
martonikaj said:
Don't kill apps unless you have a misbehaving one that's adversely affecting your phone.
The OS can manage apps and memory so much better than you ever could.
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Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.
These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?
netbuzz said:
These task killers and memory optimizers are really good for lower end devices that have little memory. I used them on a phone that only had 356MB of RAM and only run at about 30-40MB free. A better way to address these issues is to run the V6 Supercharger script on a rooted device.
As for the GNex, why do you need to run task killers? You're not having memory performance issues, are you?
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Yep. On my old ZTE Blade I really did feel a significant difference in smoothness after killing off some apps, so I don't entirely agree with the notion that you should never ever even consider doing it (which seems to be what some people advocate), but on the GNex there doesn't seem to be a need for it unless a specific app is misbehaving. I don't know if that's just because of the more powerful hardware or if it's also because of the much improved OS (I imagine it's both), but there you go.
JaiaV said:
Just to add: If you have a misbehaving app, don't bother killing it. Just uninstall it. It's not worth the trouble.
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This. I use watchdog to monitor rogue apps. Engadget was s repeat offender so it had to go.
As mentioned the OS does a great job on its own.
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You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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MikeyMike01 said:
You need nothing more than to swipe apps away when you're done with them in the multitasking window, which doubles as a task manager of sorts.
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Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.
Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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LocoTSX said:
Although, that doesn't necessarily "kill" background apps. There is a box in "developer settings" that, if you check it, will kill any application after using it. I haven't tried it out but it may just work.
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I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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Ntavelis said:
I found some articles on net talking about harmful influences when using task killers apps.
I'm using SlimICS at the moment and I want to know if when I use the killing button that I've added on my navigation buttons harms my phone as the task killers do..
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus while relaxing..
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even cyanogenmod has a kill app button, i dont think it does anything to your phone.
IMO the only useful reasons to kill a background app are if it's wasting your battery, bandwidth, or it's some kind of logger. In those cases you're better off just uninstalling it. Android is designed to keep things in memory to save start-up time and related battery drain, and so you have the benefit of the task-selector button. It knows when to clear enough memory to keep your foreground app and you happy. Task killers are holdovers from the days when they were useful.
galaxy nexus (gsm) / cm9 / trinity @ 1.4GHz
I learned a long time ago that in Android/Linux free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Ics/jb does not need app killers if you press the recent app key and swype it left or right the app gets killed
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martonikaj said:
Again, why even bother? The OS handles this just fine.
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No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
I Am Marino said:
I'm pretty sure that's as bad as using a task killer.
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There's nothing bad about closing apps you're done with.
What's bad is the auto task killers.
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MikeyMike01 said:
No, not really. And if it were "bad" they wouldn't put it into Android. You should swipe them away when you're done with them.
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No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.
martonikaj said:
No it really does nothing positive to swipe apps away when you're done with them. As the poster a couple above me said, free RAM is wasted RAM. The OS will keep everything in order. You're unnecessarily micromanaging your apps when you swipe them away. Your phone just works harder and for longer re-opening apps over and over again when you kill them manually.
Your RAM is powered and draining battery whether its full of apps or not. It's in your best interest to let the OS fill up your RAM (all the way up to about 90% full) and let it kill things as necessary when you load an app that needs more than is available. The OS will handle it. I know everyone has it engrained in their minds from using Windows for so long to keep as much RAM free as possible, but its just not the case in Android anymore.
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Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Whatever you want to believe. I'm not going to waste my time on convincing you.
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Hah alright.

How Long Before You Need A Soft Reset?

How long does your OG Pro go before it starts to feel laggy and unresponsive to make you need to reboot the phone?
With the use of the Task Manager Widget, Which lets you optimize the RAM and then keeping the Recent Apps empty , I'm going to have to say.. Never.
BUT, As a rule of thumb, I will Restart the phone after I have installed an App and have all the start up "work" for that App accomplished.
I don't ever feel the need to reboot..I don't run any task managers or anything.
I restart almost twice a day. It's a bad habit from my iPhone days of 2 years ago. I've done it with every android phone I own and it has become an OCD thing now. Trying to quit but it's hard.
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Dear lord, That must have been tough times.
Oh it was. Never again. After posting that, j got an email from xsellize(an iPhone site I used to be a part of 2-3 years ago), asking me to come post on the forums so they can have traffic. Lol.
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Jammol said:
Oh it was. Never again. After posting that, j got an email from xsellize(an iPhone site I used to be a part of 2-3 years ago), asking me to come post on the forums so they can have traffic. Lol.
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I disabled all of the bloatware, as well as many of the Google stuff I do not use, and it made a world of difference in the overall performance of my device. Combine this with the task manager set to reclaim memory every 12 hours and I am good to go. My original lag issues are now gone.
I never reboot my device except when applying some sort of mod. It's never ever laggy.
I've also read that the Android development community strongly recommends not using any kind of task managing app. This is not Windows. Android is smart about managing it's memory on it's own.
borgib said:
I never reboot my device except when applying some sort of mod. It's never ever laggy.
I've also read that the Android development community strongly recommends not using any kind of task managing app. This is not Windows. Android is smart about managing it's memory on it's own.
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LG provides a task manager widget that refreshes the memory. I wonder what issues that causes, if any.
I use it and I dig it.
Task Manager Widget, Then click the Circle Arrow and my RAM goes up.
My old HTC Vivid would go an 8 hour shift and need a charge, BAD! This OGP was at 80% battery with the same usage.
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Fyi- The LG task manager clears memory by default every 12hrs.
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Fyi- The LG task manager clears memory by default every 12hrs.
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Really? Wheres that stated? how do i check the internal setting for that? I'm stock btw
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Sharpshooterrr said:
How long does your OG Pro go before it starts to feel laggy and unresponsive to make you need to reboot the phone?
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I have only needed to reboot the phone when my iPad wont recognize the hotspot feature. Other than that i don't get lag or need to reboot. i do however CLEAR RAM if it drops below 800MB free. Just to stop running apps from draining my battery.
erwaso said:
Really? Wheres that stated? how do i check the internal setting for that? I'm stock btw
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Just launch task manager from the app drawer...click on menu then settings..
The default options are to auto clear memory every 12hrs.. All of which can be changed.
MrDSL said:
Just launch task manager from the app drawer...click on menu then settings..
The default options are to auto clear memory every 12hrs.. All of which can be changed.
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THe only options are "sort by" and "help" ...
EDIT: Wait, i forgot i'm in the PRO forum lol. That might be the issue haha
erwaso said:
THe only options are "sort by" and "help" ...
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dont think i've ever restarted it for being laggy. only when i try a new mod or occasionally after installing an app
341 hours ago.
I think the wifi was acting up so I rebooted two weeks ago.
I use the built in one. You can set the time frame for it to clear the ram for optimal performance. I have it set for every hour. No lag what so ever since I got this phone.

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