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I'm considering of buying htc desire. can you please answer if rumors of faulty multitouch are true. thx
I don't have any issues with the multitouch on my Desire.
The multitouch issue is overblown by iPhone fanboys who don't have much else to do.
So far it's primarily affected games and games that require a specific set of things to happen in them at that. First you can only touch two points at any given time. Something that has not hindered gaming for about 20 years. Every game I ever played up until Nintendo first introduced shoulder buttons required my thumb to be in at most 2 places at any given time. Due to the iPhone being able to register 10/11 inputs at once it was suddenly deemed this niche feature was a requirement to be called a smart phone.
The next hindrance is games where you "cross the axis" in other words...Pong. People found that any attempt to port a two player Pong/Air hockey game would be futile due to this limitation. This affected, apparently, 99.9999% of the phone owning community...I mean, I don't even get out of bed if I don't challenge the missus to Pong first.
Basically, don't listen to the needless whining and rumours. The phone is fine.
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The multitouch issue is overblown by iPhone fanboys who don't have much else to do.
So far it's primarily affected games and games that require a specific set of things to happen in them at that. First you can only touch two points at any given time. Something that has not hindered gaming for about 20 years. Every game I ever played up until Nintendo first introduced shoulder buttons required my thumb to be in at most 2 places at any given time. Due to the iPhone being able to register 10/11 inputs at once it was suddenly deemed this niche feature was a requirement to be called a smart phone.
The next hindrance is games where you "cross the axis" in other words...Pong. People found that any attempt to port a two player Pong/Air hockey game would be futile due to this limitation. This affected, apparently, 99.9999% of the phone owning community...I mean, I don't even get out of bed if I don't challenge the missus to Pong first.
Basically, don't listen to the needless whining and rumours. The phone is fine.
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Not neccessarily only pong.
Realfootball for example suffers the same.
The analog stick starts getting weird if you push a button at the same time.
It's a fantastic phone, just go for it.
basically any game that requires two fingers on the screen at the same time messes up, for example first person shooters. But seeing as the amount of games on android is tiny compared to the iphone you'll will probably never come across a game that's affected because about the best game android offers is solitaire.
i am exaggerating a bit, but basically i am saying if this was an iphone with this screen, it would be a big problem as it would break a lot of games, but android doesn't have many games to break in the first place, so it isn't as much of an issue.
well i was between hd2 2 and this phone.il probably go for this
So, for the first time since I got my WP7 devices I had to reset them. It seemed to be related to the new zune software they handed out because after plugging it in and syncing my phone would not let the music bar at the top disappear. After a reset it was gone and it hasn't come back since. I got the HD7 2 days after it came out and now own every US based WP7 device and this is my first reset. I think that speaks testaments about an OS.
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So, for the first time since I got my WP7 devices I had to reset them. It seemed to be related to the new zune software they handed out because after plugging it in and syncing my phone would not let the music bar at the top disappear. After a reset it was gone and it hasn't come back since. I got the HD7 2 days after it came out and now own every US based WP7 device and this is my first reset. I think that speaks testaments about an OS.
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Hasn't happened with my HD7. Updated and sync'd with no issues.
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Hasn't happened with my HD7. Updated and sync'd with no issues.
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Only happened with my focus of all devices...
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Only happened with my focus of all devices...
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Beyond that issue, how is the Focus? I will be going over to AT&T in the next month when my T-Mobile contract is up and I have a boatload of options to consider. I'm looking at all of them. If you had to choose just one...the HD7 or the Focus...which would you rather have?
Focus
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Beyond that issue, how is the Focus? I will be going over to AT&T in the next month when my T-Mobile contract is up and I have a boatload of options to consider. I'm looking at all of them. If you had to choose just one...the HD7 or the Focus...which would you rather have?
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You really need to get both of them in your hands and play with them for a while. We all have our opinions. I played with the HTC Surround, LG and Focus. I went with the focus. I liked the large and brilliant screen, the fit in my hand and have liked it more everyday. The darn thing just works, I have been able to find the apps I like and no resets after a month and a half. The things that I find bothersome are the issues with the SD card (I haven't had them yet, (added a 16GB Class 2 DanDisk, the lack of Flash support in WP7, and the lack of customized ringtones. Other than that, C&P, multi-tasking etc. are non-issues for me.
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So, for the first time since I got my WP7 devices I had to reset them. It seemed to be related to the new zune software they handed out because after plugging it in and syncing my phone would not let the music bar at the top disappear. After a reset it was gone and it hasn't come back since. I got the HD7 2 days after it came out and now own every US based WP7 device and this is my first reset. I think that speaks testaments about an OS.
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this dude does not concur.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11243163&postcount=369
So that's a good thing?
I have my device (LG E900) for almost 2 months.
The device rebooted itself only once.
However as quoted before, WP7 definitely has to be regularly rebooted just like WM6.5.
Besides volume bug caused by Games interference with Zune playback (reboot required),
WP7 has problem with handling connection issues, leading to regular problems with Marketplace crash/freeze and Weatherchannel too.
These problems can be solved only by reboot. And are IMO mainly connection related, at least most of the time. This is very unreliable, I mean I don't see a reason why app closed by Windows key freezes in the state of "trying". No other application behaves this way and never refused to work even after many internet errors.
I'm not talking about coverage or bad signal but rather indoor/outdoor changes.
As I stated in my case it's like reboot every 2, 3 days.
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I have my device (LG E900) for almost 2 months.
The device rebooted itself only once.
However as quoted before, WP7 definitely has to be regularly rebooted just like WM6.5.
Besides volume bug caused by Games interference with Zune playback (reboot required),
WP7 has problem with handling connection issues, leading to regular problems with Marketplace crash/freeze and Weatherchannel too.
These problems can be solved only by reboot. And are IMO mainly connection related, at least most of the time. This is very unreliable, I mean I don't see a reason why app closed by Windows key freezes in the state of "trying". No other application behaves this way and never refused to work even after many internet errors.
I'm not talking about coverage or bad signal but rather indoor/outdoor changes.
As I stated in my case it's like reboot every 2, 3 days.
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if WP7 had a task manager these could be avoided by just killing tasks like in Android and WM6.5, they need to incorporate that into an update.
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Beyond that issue, how is the Focus? I will be going over to AT&T in the next month when my T-Mobile contract is up and I have a boatload of options to consider. I'm looking at all of them. If you had to choose just one...the HD7 or the Focus...which would you rather have?
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Focus/Omnia are pretty much the master race when it comes to WP7 phones. The Focus specifically is probably the best of them all. It's the lightest, thinnest, has the best battery life, and is, for some reason, faster than other WP7 phones due to how it handles storage. Much better screens, too, whereas the HTC screens look like cheap LCD tech. The only thing I'm jealous of is the HTC Hub.
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However as quoted before, WP7 definitely has to be regularly rebooted just like WM6.5.
Besides volume bug caused by Games interference with Zune playback (reboot required),
WP7 has problem with handling connection issues, leading to regular problems with Marketplace crash/freeze and Weatherchannel too.
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What's your definition of "frequently?" I can go 5-6 days easily on 6.5 without rebooting, and tons of uptime. This may have more to do with you than the OS.
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What's your definition of "frequently?" I can go 5-6 days easily on 6.5 without rebooting, and tons of uptime. This may have more to do with you than the OS.
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that's a good point, I can go a week on my NRG ROM, and on my current CM6.1 ROM, and I have gone quite a few days on WP7 ROM too
Focus is second only to venue pro (8 gig model with a 32 gig card) the only complaints i have with it are how light it is (I dropped it in a theatre and never knew) and the bluish screen.... the tech is awesome and having access to the sd card without a void is great.HD7 is pretty much the HD2 running wp7 except less resets and stuff...
If you get resets on a WP7 HD2 it may be because the OS isnt native.
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Focus is second only to venue pro (8 gig model with a 32 gig card) the only complaints i have with it are how light it is (I dropped it in a theatre and never knew) and the bluish screen.... the tech is awesome and having access to the sd card without a void is great.HD7 is pretty much the HD2 running wp7 except less resets and stuff...
If you get resets on a WP7 HD2 it may be because the OS isnt native.
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well reportedly the HD7 needs resets as well as some other WP7 phones too, I actually get amazing performance on my WP7 HD2
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What's your definition of "frequently?" I can go 5-6 days easily on 6.5 without rebooting, and tons of uptime. This may have more to do with you than the OS.
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Well as for WM6.5 my situation was not representative because of faulty device - SE X2.
Maybe more representative thing would be X1 on 6.1, which could go even 10 days or so without any problem.
Anyway my point was that effectively I can rarely run WP7 for a week without a reboot what is not good. I mean it's also not such a terrible thing for workflow because the reboot is nicely fast, but still - not good for the platform.
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Well as for WM6.5 my situation was not representative because of faulty device - SE X2.
Maybe more representative thing would be X1 on 6.1, which could go even 10 days or so without any problem.
Anyway my point was that effectively I can rarely run WP7 for a week without a reboot what is not good. I mean it's also not such a terrible thing for workflow because the reboot is nicely fast, but still - not good for the platform.
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Ok, thanks. What's normal for other devices, like an iphone or an android phone? I've never used one, and have no idea. Personally, I think resetting once a day isn't that big of a deal, but it is a big deal if the device freezes a lot. My fuze froze probably 5 times a day when I first got it on the stock ATT rom. I'm sure some of that was my fault, but the rom was total crap and deserved most of the blame.
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You really need to get both of them in your hands and play with them for a while. We all have our opinions. I played with the HTC Surround, LG and Focus. I went with the focus. I liked the large and brilliant screen, the fit in my hand and have liked it more everyday. The darn thing just works, I have been able to find the apps I like and no resets after a month and a half. The things that I find bothersome are the issues with the SD card (I haven't had them yet, (added a 16GB Class 2 DanDisk, the lack of Flash support in WP7, and the lack of customized ringtones. Other than that, C&P, multi-tasking etc. are non-issues for me.
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I checked out the Focus today and it is a gorgeous phone, but so is the HD7. I normally keep mine in a chrome hard case and never take it out. But after looking at the Focus, feeling it build and weight, I pulled my HD7 out of the case and held it. I remembered why I chose it over all the other WP7 devices. Just an outstandingly gorgeous phone and feels so solid and substantial in the hand. I'd still love to have a Focus, but I like the HD7 better.
There are a lot of option with AT&T and I might just go with a netbook, instead, and use my two phones, HD2 and HD7 and be content with them. Also, as far as I'm concerned, the HD7 is just as thin as the Focus...the body of it, excluding the camera bulge.
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I checked out the Focus today and it is a gorgeous phone, but so is the HD7. I normally keep mine in a chrome hard case and never take it out. But after looking at the Focus, feeling it build and weight, I pulled my HD7 out of the case and held it. I remembered why I chose it over all the other WP7 devices. Just an outstandingly gorgeous phone and feels so solid and substantial in the hand. I'd still love to have a Focus, but I like the HD7 better.
There are a lot of option with AT&T and I might just go with a netbook, instead, and use my two phones, HD2 and HD7 and be content with them. Also, as far as I'm concerned, the HD7 is just as thin as the Focus...the body of it, excluding the camera bulge.
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Love the phone, not big on the screen. Then again I dont like samoled much either. I think amoled is about perfect and I love having a hardware keyboard. XBL hasnt released a good game in a couple weeks... not since iblast moki... I'm getting withdrawals and beating my wife at alphajax is getting almost sad.
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I checked out the Focus today and it is a gorgeous phone, but so is the HD7. I normally keep mine in a chrome hard case and never take it out. But after looking at the Focus, feeling it build and weight, I pulled my HD7 out of the case and held it. I remembered why I chose it over all the other WP7 devices. Just an outstandingly gorgeous phone and feels so solid and substantial in the hand. I'd still love to have a Focus, but I like the HD7 better.
There are a lot of option with AT&T and I might just go with a netbook, instead, and use my two phones, HD2 and HD7 and be content with them. Also, as far as I'm concerned, the HD7 is just as thin as the Focus...the body of it, excluding the camera bulge.
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.39 vs .44.
And it weighs a lot more. And it has a hideous LCD screen.
I mean look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTLfGbvNATA&feature=fvwrel
The Focus is also faster:
with microSD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGWna7SmG1M
and without microSD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx7eCwufhqY
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.39 vs .44.
And it weighs a lot more. And it has a hideous LCD screen.
I mean look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTLfGbvNATA&feature=fvwrel
The Focus is also faster:
with microSD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGWna7SmG1M
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx7eCwufhqY
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I love the LCD of my HD2 and HD7. Whenever I watch videos on it, I continue to be impressed. I suggest observing the HD7 LCD after your eyes have acclimated away from the extreme colors of SAMOLED. As with anything, the human body adjusts itself to intensities to level them out. In other words, we become accustomed to things we constantly use. It's no different between the eyes adjusting to a low-light indoor condition coming from a super bright sunny day outside.
Well, it's going to be a lengthy wait till we get the official release of ICS.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/12/26/l...with-lg-optimus-lte-lg-optimus-2x-and-others/
Read comments at :http://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-mobile/ice-cream-sandwich-ics-os-upgrade-schedule/334420639902596
Now that I've experienced this gorgeous 720 display, I can't go back to any lower, but it seems to me with the way things are going, I wont hesitate ditch LG for any other brand once such resolution is available...
It's a shame, LG, you could've been great...
honest question-
why is this a bad thing? i mean, my phone works fantastically.
sure, i, like you, like to be a first adopter and enjoy leading-edge tech, but what's in ics that's such a leapfrog advancement above and beyond gb 2.3.5 that it's worth ditching a device that performs very very well?
again, honest question, i can't deny i've asked myself this very question. i just can't justify giving up this phone because it won't have the official ics for another 3-6 months-ish.
Well, for starters you and I have different level of acceptance. When I buy a gadget with $600 price tag on it I expect it to be working absolutely flawlessly, perfect, or at least not worse then 1 years old gadget. Nitro out of box might seem fast, at first, but it hiccups, screen and buttons are not very responsive (just tell me how many times you pressed back button and nothing happens, before you realize you have to press exactly at that arrow, which is nearly invisible until you press it (face palm) or when you press something on screen and it takes 1/2-1 sec before something happens? 1.5ghz dual core my ass, excuse my french), compass doesn't work, no notifications through headset (I've been using it successfully on 5 different phones). And if you start installing some basic apps, you'll see how quickly the screen become sluggish, in fact, my 1 year old HTC Inspire with single core 1ghz cpu has better screen response, smooth scroll, just like iphone and it's full with installed apps. Ok, it's could be the apps not optimized for such resolution, but wouldn't you expect hardware to compensate?
Said that I was hoping to see a quick update that hopefully would address all or most of these issues, but it doesn't looks like it's gonna happened anytime soon.
So, for the next half a year or more we stuck with what we got. Yes, yes, we all hope the developers will jump on and we'll see some roms going on, but it's not what I'm talking about, it's the whole official level of support, it's the "lets sell them this half-done product and maybe we'll throw them an update or two a year later" attitude. Other companies probably do the same and some even worse, but c'mon just look at LG Thril, these poor bastards have been expecting GB update back in September, now they have to wait another 6 month!
Of course I'm very disappointed about it.
Also when you use GPS navigation and car charging, this nitro will get very hot and it refuses to charge!
I also have Samsung skyrocket, the phone never get hot like this!
You won't need ICS if we can unlock the bootloader. Why is everybody fussin over ICS?? The custom ROMS would be way better than Stock Android ROMs of any version. Just to prove it to u, my Atrix running on CM7 could do about 85% of the things offered in ICS. When I looked at them showcasing the ICS, I kept telling myself, " I have that, and that, and that as well". Nothing is new, except the face recognition unlock and things intergrated from Honeycomb.
So, in my opinion, big deal about ICS. If it does take LG that long to release the update, then hopefully before the time comes, we can get better ROMs.
You are missing very important things about ICS - optimizations.
It's optimized for HD displays, hardware-accelerated 2D drawings (read as UI). Just this two are enough to be excited about...
@netnerd:
it does get very hot with heavy network usage (navigation uses both GPS and network alot, especially if you enabled any additional layers), however mine haven't gotten to the point of refusing charging, perhaps it's your car charger? If it's output only 1.0A, then it might be not enough, cause the wall adapter that comes with phone is 1.1A.
Also note, the "very hot" feel could be due to the metal plate around the camera which is much better heat conductive then plastic, so you'd feel more heat out of it then without it as on Skyrocket...
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Well, for starters you and I have different level of acceptance. When I buy a gadget with $600 price tag on it I expect it to be working absolutely flawlessly, perfect, or at least not worse then 1 years old gadget. Nitro out of box might seem fast, at first, but it hiccups, screen and buttons are not very responsive (just tell me how many times you pressed back button and nothing happens, before you realize you have to press exactly at that arrow, which is nearly invisible until you press it (face palm) or when you press something on screen and it takes 1/2-1 sec before something happens? 1.5ghz dual core my ass, excuse my french), compass doesn't work, no notifications through headset (I've been using it successfully on 5 different phones). And if you start installing some basic apps, you'll see how quickly the screen become sluggish, in fact, my 1 year old HTC Inspire with single core 1ghz cpu has better screen response, smooth scroll, just like iphone and it's full with installed apps. Ok, it's could be the apps not optimized for such resolution, but wouldn't you expect hardware to compensate?
Said that I was hoping to see a quick update that hopefully would address all or most of these issues, but it doesn't looks like it's gonna happened anytime soon.
So, for the next half a year or more we stuck with what we got. Yes, yes, we all hope the developers will jump on and we'll see some roms going on, but it's not what I'm talking about, it's the whole official level of support, it's the "lets sell them this half-done product and maybe we'll throw them an update or two a year later" attitude. Other companies probably do the same and some even worse, but c'mon just look at LG Thril, these poor bastards have been expecting GB update back in September, now they have to wait another 6 month!
Of course I'm very disappointed about it.
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this in no way whatsoever describes how the nitro i own functions, i have yet to experience any of the issues you have.
also, i paid $150, not $600.
So, you never experienced any slows down or jittering when scroll apps list or text in other apps? It doesn't delay open any apps for you?
After hard reset everything seems to be smooth, very little jittering in apps scroll, but once some essencial apps get installed, the jittering gets more and more.
The buttons issue, is probably because of unusual layout, but the fact that we can't control lights on them and they almost invisible does make it harder to use.
The $600 is retail price, I payed half of that, but I'm not stuck in the contract. I only mentioned the price just to compare what they ask for and what they actually deliver for that price...
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So, you never experienced any slows down or jittering when scroll apps list or text in other apps? It doesn't delay open any apps for you?
After hard reset everything seems to be smooth, very little jittering in apps scroll, but once some essencial apps get installed, the jittering gets more and more.
The buttons issue, is probably because of unusual layout, but the fact that we can't control lights on them and they almost invisible does make it harder to use.
The $600 is retail price, I payed half of that, but I'm not stuck in the contract. I only mentioned the price just to compare what they ask for and what they actually deliver for that price...
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it seems to me that the phone gets snappier as the programs most used get used. sure, there have been slow downs, just now going into the market, all my app icons took a moment to pop on screen. i noticed that.
opera, gmail, all the apps i use pop up pretty dang quick, more often suprising me with their quickness v. slow. the scrolling too, i don't find troublesome. yes, over the past several weeks of getting the phone dialed-in like i like it there have been times that i've noticed this and that but now that i am getting it finalized, it is snappy snappy.
and i do notice that sometimes the launcher does not recognize my screen inputs, but the stock launcher noticed them quite well, but to me that just means the launcher is probably not perfected for such a fine screen.
re: the price. i see. even so, sure seems like a better price tag than the google phone. what's retail there, $800? and no deals, subsidized price is locked at ~$300 + i'd pay $20 more a month at verizon.
for me (i.e. not for everyone ) this phone *seems* to make sense. could be wrong but at the same time, we all know what it's like waiting for that super perfect phone.
I tried to stick with the nitro through January and couldn't do it. This news of pics coming in q2 justifies my decision to return it and wait for the galaxy note lte or galaxy nexus for at&t. Hopefully a few devs come along and release this phone from its shackles.
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It's not even confirmed for the Nitro HD, instead LG said it's up to the carriers. It's only confirmed for the international variant, the LG Optimus LTE.
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-e...to-select-devices-starting-in-Q2-2012_id25095
So it's even worse then we thought...carriers will only start thinking rather update or not their devices after LG releases the update...
That's the way it's always worked.
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Once it's rooted n unlocked, i dont think it matters if u use the optimus LTE update, does it?
yay for us! LoLoL!!!
I think LG is thinking all they need to do is put out a phone with monster specs and that's it, they're done. If it were a few years ago, before people knew that smartphones had an OS let alone know what 'Android' was, then yeah you don't have to care too much about OS updates.
But this is today and the Nitro is a competitor to the Galaxy Nexus. You better believe that EVERY OS update that comes out, the Galaxy Nexus is going to be the first to get it...So any 'decent' competitor should up it's game and follow suit closely behind. And 6 months later ain't closely behind.
I'm starting to talk myself out of the Nitro. My true love and want was the Galaxy Note but I got tired of waiting for a US release and jumped on the Nitro instead. But the funky menu/search button, no indicator LED, bad compass, sometimes sluggish performance, etc...
Unfortunately for us there are no rules or regulations how manufactures should handle their products. That's why they more focus on creating new models rather then supporting already sold, maybe it's a good business, but this actually explains why so many people prefer overpriced Apple products...In fact after playing a bit with iPhone 4s on xmas, I'd be sold for it too if I wasn't interested in doing something myself to phone system as we can on android platform.
im sticking to this phone for now, no matter wat. I will make it work with wat it has, n im sure, in a couple of months or so, we will have much more things with this phone. I mean seriously, this phone is only 23 days old, and we make it seem like this has been out for months and has no hopes of improving. Give it a break and show some patience guys. We are even damn lucky to get a permanent root so easily. look at the rezound, who's been out longer than the Nitro; it still doesn't have a permanent root. And in 23 days, we have the support of a couple of devs trying to get us CWM and several great users working hard figuring out the innards of this phone. To give u an idea, Tenfar did not even come out with CWM for the Atrix until April, almost 2 months down the road.
So you know wat, I'm not giving up on them. They've all worked hard to help us have a better phone, and I am not leaving them and their hard work to vain. I know it's about money and being stuck with a phone for 2 years or so, but hey, that's the price we pay as early adopters to technology. Want something proven and guaranteed, wait a couple of months when everyone already has the phone.
That's my 2 cent on the current situation; about ICS, about Unlock bootloader, about this and that. Things will improve in weeks to come, as long as we stick together and help, instead of complaining on how the phone is lacking this or that.
p.s. always remember, the SG II has a much lower resolution with same CPU, thus performing under less stress. And the Galaxy Nexus has a pentile AMOLED screen, again also using less power thus stressing the CPU less. That's where this phone is getting hit with lag and battery issue.
Just add it to the issues on my 4th replacement (3 during the hand grenade era) (1 post with the TMO update).. Now the phone makes a ticking noise when first powered up and left to sit without logging into the phone or doing anything. It does it at idle and doesn't stop until the phone is logged into. However the caveat is that if the phone sits idle for a few minutes, it starts making the ticking noise again.
You can see the voltage jump ever so slightly around the tick sound, and the voltage drops. When you get into the phone is jumps to 9 volts, 15 watts, and just under 2 amps... Which I am sure is the norm for the speed charge... However the ticking should not be. Maybe it will explode!
And while others don't get the "common sense" of what is going on not only here in the US but abroad - it really is cut and dry. While the fan children cry about how someone in China used an after market charger and plugged it into his MAC to charge it, the phone should be equipped with a cut off for non Samsung approved devices. Apple does it, sony does it, and many other phone makers. They know "not everyone" is going to utilize Samsung cords. Me personally, I will use only approved cables, but not everyone is going to be. Hop in your friends car, you have no charge, but he/she has a cable and you just plug in. Samsung needs to take a stronger stance on aftermarket garbage out there.
With that all being said it's still the fault of the company. There are roughly 6.8 billion cell phone subscriptions out there. And the only one you have heard huge failures in (phones exploding) are from whom? Exactly... So the fan children can blame it on whatever they want to. They can stand up for a brand that lost 29 billion in market share, stock loss, non return customers, or they can grasp it and push to have Samsung produce better products and not be concerned with trying to get a device out before it's major competitor.
When you have more than half of the users that signed up leaving for other brands, you have tainted the market for your self. Fan kids opinions don't really matter because the majority out number the dedicated users of the devices. And when you have Sammy's major competitor out there with a device that just works (a few hiss issues aside) (no explosions) it's easy to see why people with common sense and whom aren't using mommy and daddy's money are upset. When you pay 900 for a device, it should just work. It should not lag, it should not have battery drain issues, it should not be gimped (ie. slowing the charge down) etc...
I am on my 4th phone and they all had the same issues. TMO provider... Lag on all but 1. Notification sound loop (every phone). Deformed portions on the screen edge on 2 of them. Extremely hot and messed up the ZAGG and discolored on 2 of them which TMO witnessed along with the sounds and screen edge issue. (They replaced immediately). And you get into little things like the Geekbench scores. They should be consistent from phone to phone. All three of my apples consistently match up within 50/100 points of my colleagues and my phones. Just the way it is... There is no reason I should get a phone that hits on the high side of the Geek Bench SD scores then get another phone that is 1000's lower. No one is going to look at the performance I suppose because it's a step up from their old device - so to them it looks like the next best thing. Reality is, it's performance sucks. With no apps on it but the bloatware and even with bloatware disabled you still get the lag. After master reset, you get the lag. After soft reset, you get the lag. And yes, I have even humored the long time android users and used EZ disabler and shut down all the crap that is on the phone (preloaded). And alas, STILL THE SAME ISSUE. Even then, I should not have to shut down anything.
All of the issues I have seen displayed are pre app install. Pre Samsung switch. I had pop ups on 3 of the phones out of the box. Candy crush and some other game. I am not sure if this was from TMO or Samsung. But from others I know that had the phone they didn't get the popups. I had installed Facebook on my phone and twitter. I did this at the store, just because I had been talking about the phone when I got it. I didn't make it out of the parking lot before the app crashed. The Facebook app continued to do that. By the time I got to my third phone, the app didn't crash. Not sure what changed but it worked. Now on my 4th version, I have only had the finger print sensor crash over and over. So far the other apps (27 of them) work. But I think it's only a matter of time. (smh)
I get the majority here have no clue. And I get there are a few members that get the reality but are afraid to say something because the children here will troll and flame them. I have seen it on my posts, where there only excuse is "just return the phone". That really is the best they have and it shows how ignorant people are. People are taking to the internet, youtube, etc... to voice their opinions. Samsung has lost their butts and need to start listening to it's customer base. Especially those out there that jumped from one company to another because the phone was touted as the best thing out there. Well, it's apparent by customers (not main stream media) that this entire launch and aftermath is a failure. And whether you can be adult enough to see that or not is on you... But the facts, still remain...
BTW... I am sure someone is going to tell me this is normal, and if it is... show me a post on it and what it is. It's sounds like a capacitor discharge issue.
For those of you intelligent enough to get it, I appreciate it.
https://youtu.be/JIBpl3R2ybI
Now there are warnings for their Washer/Dryers exploding.... HUGE QC issues with Samsung...
http://www.mynews13.com/content/new...icles/cfn/2016/9/29/cpsc_issues_warning_.html
Consumers Warned Over Reports of Exploding Samsung Washers
TIME-19 hours ago
“CPSC and Samsung are working on a remedy for affected consumers that will help ensure that there are no further incidents. We will provide ...
Samsung in Talks with CPSC to Address Claims of Exploding Washers
NBCNews.com-4 hours ago
Samsung Has a New Exploding Product: CPSC
Newser-Sep 28, 2016
CPSC Issues Warning After Reports Some Samsung Washing ...
Highly Cited-ABC News-Sep 28, 2016
Samsung washing machines explode in the US; class-action lawsuit ...
Opinion-Firstpost-10 hours ago
First it was Samsung phones. Now it's exploding Samsung washing ...
In-Depth-Chicago Tribune-1 hour ago
Does the clicking sound occur if you put the phone in silent mode?
Gary02468 said:
Does the clicking sound occur if you put the phone in silent mode?
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I have not tried that. I will try that and let you know sir! If it does go away in silent, do you have any clues as to what it would be?
Gary02468 said:
Does the clicking sound occur if you put the phone in silent mode?
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Turned all the volumes down, sound has gone down but still ticks. So that eliminates any electronics "in the phone" i suppose... anything else that would cause is?
There a clock on it right??? DUCK AND COVER!! CALL THE POLICE!!! ..... lol
Kansatsusha said:
There a clock on it right??? DUCK AND COVER!! CALL THE POLICE!!! ..... lol
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Lol ?
I'm sure I am late here, but did anyone else see this...
http://theusbport.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-battery-issues-recalls/17646
Honestly I thought like alot of people here that people were trying to bash the phone, but after i experienced replacing and having 3 of them. Now i believe there are defective ones. My first was great but had to return. Second was bad my hime button looked off set and my front facing camera chamfered edges were not aligned. The shiny circle around the lens. Then the big one I watched video on my phone and one side was washed out bad. I thought it was the video or movie or pic I compared yes, the bottom of the phone pixles were bad blacks were gray skin color faded very noticeable. This was a new one with the green battery also I waited in best buys store so long many times this sucked. Went replaced it showed them all good now. Love my phone it's superb. Word of warning not all posts are bs or OCD picky people. Look at your phone return it until you get one you like. I did there is a huge difference. Good luck to you all.
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For the link in China people do fraud bad, if you know about the country people will jump infront of your car to claim you hit them. They were also caught by Sammy they were cooking there phones so they would explode and sue them. They found out when the photos Cleary clearly show signs of something a battery exploding is not capable of. This being Asian countries I dont worry or expect it to continue.
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androidcentralsucks said:
Just add it to the issues on my 4th replacement (3 during the hand grenade era) (1 post with the TMO update).. Now the phone makes a ticking noise when first powered up and left to sit without logging into the phone or doing anything. It does it at idle and doesn't stop until the phone is logged into. However the caveat is that if the phone sits idle for a few minutes, it starts making the ticking noise again.
You can see the voltage jump ever so slightly around the tick sound, and the voltage drops. When you get into the phone is jumps to 9 volts, 15 watts, and just under 2 amps... Which I am sure is the norm for the speed charge... However the ticking should not be. Maybe it will explode!
And while others don't get the "common sense" of what is going on not only here in the US but abroad - it really is cut and dry. While the fan children cry about how someone in China used an after market charger and plugged it into his MAC to charge it, the phone should be equipped with a cut off for non Samsung approved devices. Apple does it, sony does it, and many other phone makers. They know "not everyone" is going to utilize Samsung cords. Me personally, I will use only approved cables, but not everyone is going to be. Hop in your friends car, you have no charge, but he/she has a cable and you just plug in. Samsung needs to take a stronger stance on aftermarket garbage out there.
With that all being said it's still the fault of the company. There are roughly 6.8 billion cell phone subscriptions out there. And the only one you have heard huge failures in (phones exploding) are from whom? Exactly... So the fan children can blame it on whatever they want to. They can stand up for a brand that lost 29 billion in market share, stock loss, non return customers, or they can grasp it and push to have Samsung produce better products and not be concerned with trying to get a device out before it's major competitor.
When you have more than half of the users that signed up leaving for other brands, you have tainted the market for your self. Fan kids opinions don't really matter because the majority out number the dedicated users of the devices. And when you have Sammy's major competitor out there with a device that just works (a few hiss issues aside) (no explosions) it's easy to see why people with common sense and whom aren't using mommy and daddy's money are upset. When you pay 900 for a device, it should just work. It should not lag, it should not have battery drain issues, it should not be gimped (ie. slowing the charge down) etc...
I am on my 4th phone and they all had the same issues. TMO provider... Lag on all but 1. Notification sound loop (every phone). Deformed portions on the screen edge on 2 of them. Extremely hot and messed up the ZAGG and discolored on 2 of them which TMO witnessed along with the sounds and screen edge issue. (They replaced immediately). And you get into little things like the Geekbench scores. They should be consistent from phone to phone. All three of my apples consistently match up within 50/100 points of my colleagues and my phones. Just the way it is... There is no reason I should get a phone that hits on the high side of the Geek Bench SD scores then get another phone that is 1000's lower. No one is going to look at the performance I suppose because it's a step up from their old device - so to them it looks like the next best thing. Reality is, it's performance sucks. With no apps on it but the bloatware and even with bloatware disabled you still get the lag. After master reset, you get the lag. After soft reset, you get the lag. And yes, I have even humored the long time android users and used EZ disabler and shut down all the crap that is on the phone (preloaded). And alas, STILL THE SAME ISSUE. Even then, I should not have to shut down anything.
All of the issues I have seen displayed are pre app install. Pre Samsung switch. I had pop ups on 3 of the phones out of the box. Candy crush and some other game. I am not sure if this was from TMO or Samsung. But from others I know that had the phone they didn't get the popups. I had installed Facebook on my phone and twitter. I did this at the store, just because I had been talking about the phone when I got it. I didn't make it out of the parking lot before the app crashed. The Facebook app continued to do that. By the time I got to my third phone, the app didn't crash. Not sure what changed but it worked. Now on my 4th version, I have only had the finger print sensor crash over and over. So far the other apps (27 of them) work. But I think it's only a matter of time. (smh)
I get the majority here have no clue. And I get there are a few members that get the reality but are afraid to say something because the children here will troll and flame them. I have seen it on my posts, where there only excuse is "just return the phone". That really is the best they have and it shows how ignorant people are. People are taking to the internet, youtube, etc... to voice their opinions. Samsung has lost their butts and need to start listening to it's customer base. Especially those out there that jumped from one company to another because the phone was touted as the best thing out there. Well, it's apparent by customers (not main stream media) that this entire launch and aftermath is a failure. And whether you can be adult enough to see that or not is on you... But the facts, still remain...
BTW... I am sure someone is going to tell me this is normal, and if it is... show me a post on it and what it is. It's sounds like a capacitor discharge issue.
For those of you intelligent enough to get it, I appreciate it.
https://youtu.be/JIBpl3R2ybI
Now there are warnings for their Washer/Dryers exploding.... HUGE QC issues with Samsung...
http://www.mynews13.com/content/new...icles/cfn/2016/9/29/cpsc_issues_warning_.html
Consumers Warned Over Reports of Exploding Samsung Washers
TIME-19 hours ago
“CPSC and Samsung are working on a remedy for affected consumers that will help ensure that there are no further incidents. We will provide ...
Samsung in Talks with CPSC to Address Claims of Exploding Washers
NBCNews.com-4 hours ago
Samsung Has a New Exploding Product: CPSC
Newser-Sep 28, 2016
CPSC Issues Warning After Reports Some Samsung Washing ...
Highly Cited-ABC News-Sep 28, 2016
Samsung washing machines explode in the US; class-action lawsuit ...
Opinion-Firstpost-10 hours ago
First it was Samsung phones. Now it's exploding Samsung washing ...
In-Depth-Chicago Tribune-1 hour ago
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You really need to find a hobby. You've only been an XDA member for two days and have posted page after page of the same material across half a dozen threads. For every negative media link you've fished up there's a counter point that you've omitted. The worst thing for me about the Note7 is that I own the same phone you do.
At the risk of opening the gates of hell and encouraging you, here's something for you to ponder. A new iPhone 7 exploded.
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I'm not sure how you stuck it out to even get to four replacements.
androidcentralsucks said:
I'm sure I am late here, but did anyone else see this...
http://theusbport.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-battery-issues-recalls/17646
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i wished all these stories about this incident in china confirmed via imei that if indeed it was one of the updated phones or the older first release.
matsuyamakaze said:
Honestly I thought like alot of people here that people were trying to bash the phone, but after i experienced replacing and having 3 of them. Now i believe there are defective ones. My first was great but had to return. Second was bad my hime button looked off set and my front facing camera chamfered edges were not aligned. The shiny circle around the lens. Then the big one I watched video on my phone and one side was washed out bad. I thought it was the video or movie or pic I compared yes, the bottom of the phone pixles were bad blacks were gray skin color faded very noticeable. This was a new one with the green battery also I waited in best buys store so long many times this sucked. Went replaced it showed them all good now. Love my phone it's superb. Word of warning not all posts are bs or OCD picky people. Look at your phone return it until you get one you like. I did there is a huge difference. Good luck to you all.
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For the link in China people do fraud bad, if you know about the country people will jump infront of your car to claim you hit them. They were also caught by Sammy they were cooking there phones so they would explode and sue them. They found out when the photos Cleary clearly show signs of something a battery exploding is not capable of. This being Asian countries I dont worry or expect it to continue.
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Yes sir.. A lot of is has to be with the local fan types that want to keep the name and brand safe. However there is nothing they can say to refute what is going on with these phones. I have seen the videos with the kids jumping in front of cars lol.. and let's say that 10% of the cases are fraud. That still doesn't negate what is going on elsewhere including here in the US. Originally the numbers were from other countries but a good percentage were here. And Sammy was unable to dispute the individuals claims. HAD that not been the case you can bet that they would have put out a campaign to protect their names. It's unfortunate but that is what happens when you rush a device out to customers and completely ignore quality control.
As far as why I stuck it out? This is why... I wanted to give this device a fair chance. Knowing that devices have imminent failures when they are on initial launch was something I was okay with. I was okay with it after the first, the second, and even the third. After hearing they were going to press quality control on all of the new devices - I was sure they would get it resolved. After all they make some of the best TV's on the planet, and I have own(ed) 12 of them. After receiving the 3rd device I was out of the time frame for TMO to return the device. But again, I was hopeful that the 4th would be fixed. When I received the 4th device - I did my normal hard reset, I then worked with the phone on the base apps for a day. I then installed FB and Twitter, and put my work / personal emails on the phone - all the time dealing with the LAG, dealing with the damn notification sound that loops and won't shut off, and other quirks like the limited battery. A couple days later TMO customers here in Florida were finally able to receive the 404 meg update! I should have known the 404 went hand and hand with the error found on the net. Because while it sped things up a bit, it caused more harm than good IMO. The battery was even worse and I still only had my email and the couple of apps... I was STILL hopeful that things would resolve themselves or another update would come out.
I have wanted to like this phone. (Since it seems the S7 Edge seemed to be flawless) But coming from a world where the phone just works, was snappy, the email you could delete as fast as you could swipe, the messenger just worked, didn't have lag, basically just set the bar high - I wasn't ready for a phone full of failures. The only thing I can say about the phone that is good? Are the SPen and the screen. (After turning the saturation off). Since I wanted to use this to display photos, I was blown away by the resolution. The issue? It takes too long to bring up photos OR I have to live with opening up the gallery app several times because it crashes loading photos of any size. From 120k to full high res images.
TMO has taken the stance not to replace phones here in Florida. They are pushing to go to Sammy. Samsung wants people to send a phone in but doesn't want to give a loaner and WONT give a time frame in which you can get your phone back. This isn't a compensation issue though I paid for my phone in full. This is a principle issue.
chillsen said:
i wished all these stories about this incident in china confirmed via imei that if indeed it was one of the updated phones or the older first release.
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ASK And you shall receive:
CNNMoney obtained a video and pictures of the blackened device with Hui’s MacBook tainted with soot and some unidentifiable yellow substance. The IMEI as labeled on the box was checked to be clean and not affected by the recall.
“We are currently contacting the customer and will conduct a thorough examination of the device in question once we receive it,” Samsung stated.
Four Note 7 explosions have been reported in China with Samsung questioning the validity of two claims. In one case, the company blamed an external heat source for causing the explosion.
http://pocketnow.com/2016/09/27/new-chinese-galaxy-note-7-explodes
So to me, 50% of the time is only good when you have 50% chance of winning the lotto... but when phones are blowing up? There is an issue here.. Sooner people stop turning their head to protect a brand that only hurts them in the long run, the better it will be.
Also.. (off topic)... Funny, but sad... If you have polarized glasses, put them on and look at your screen. I see imperfections all up and down the edges. My buddy has the S7 edge (no issues I may add) and I just looked at his, and there are no imperfections. SMH... BAH!
androidcentralsucks said:
Double post, sorry.
Yes sir.. A lot of is has to be with the local fan types that want to keep the name and brand safe. However there is nothing they can say to refute what is going on with these phones. I have seen the videos with the kids jumping in front of cars lol.. and let's say that 10% of the cases are fraud. That still doesn't negate what is going on elsewhere including here in the US. Originally the numbers were from other countries but a good percentage were here. And Sammy was unable to dispute the individuals claims. HAD that not been the case you can bet that they would have put out a campaign to protect their names. It's unfortunate but that is what happens when you rush a device out to customers and completely ignore quality control.
As far as why I stuck it out? This is why... I wanted to give this device a fair chance. Knowing that devices have imminent failures when they are on initial launch was something I was okay with. I was okay with it after the first, the second, and even the third. After hearing they were going to press quality control on all of the new devices - I was sure they would get it resolved. After all they make some of the best TV's on the planet, and I have own(ed) 12 of them. After receiving the 3rd device I was out of the time frame for TMO to return the device. But again, I was hopeful that the 4th would be fixed. When I received the 4th device - I did my normal hard reset, I then worked with the phone on the base apps for a day. I then installed FB and Twitter, and put my work / personal emails on the phone - all the time dealing with the LAG, dealing with the damn notification sound that loops and won't shut off, and other quirks like the limited battery. A couple days later TMO customers here in Florida were finally able to receive the 404 meg update! I should have known the 404 went hand and hand with the error found on the net. Because while it sped things up a bit, it caused more harm than good IMO. The battery was even worse and I still only had my email and the couple of apps... I was STILL hopeful that things would resolve themselves or another update would come out.
I have wanted to like this phone. (Since it seems the S7 Edge seemed to be flawless) But coming from a world where the phone just works, was snappy, the email you could delete as fast as you could swipe, the messenger just worked, didn't have lag, basically just set the bar high - I wasn't ready for a phone full of failures. The only thing I can say about the phone that is good? Are the SPen and the screen. (After turning the saturation off). Since I wanted to use this to display photos, I was blown away by the resolution. The issue? It takes too long to bring up photos OR I have to live with opening up the gallery app several times because it crashes loading photos of any size. From 120k to full high res images.
TMO has taken the stance not to replace phones here in Florida. They are pushing to go to Sammy. Samsung wants people to send a phone in but doesn't want to give a loaner and WONT give a time frame in which you can get your phone back. This isn't a compensation issue though I paid for my phone in full. This is a principle issue.
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It is clear you do not like the phone and dislike anyone who does by name calling them. Move on by getting rid of the phone and onto the iPhone 7 then you can join those forums and post about how great that device is.
Wow I don't even have the patience to exchange my first let alone four?! Crazy lol just return the phone for a refund and look elsewhere, not worth the headache.
Would have loved too but it's past that point. They won't take them back and Sammy won't do anything either. Unless the phone is an imminent failure. It's garbage... Wait until their second rounds of recalls #ItWillHappen =/
I am with you, but if you read what I said, it explains why I held out lol... Glad you had good luck with yours! I wish I had that experience. With all of that being said, the reasons I had the first 3 swapped out was because all of those errors were verified wrong in front of the Samsung rep at BestBuy... And then with the reps at TMO here in Orlando. Even they could not believe the bs...
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/236433-certain-samsung-washers-at-risk-of-explosion-even-without-a-note-7-in-the-spin-cycle
Self destruction...
androidcentralsucks said:
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/236433-certain-samsung-washers-at-risk-of-explosion-even-without-a-note-7-in-the-spin-cycle
Self destruction...
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Shouldn't this be posted in the washing machine forum?
I went to a cafe for years way back then, the coffee machine always broke down, the smoothie machine broke down, and even when it did work, the smoothies were watered down.. I kept going in hopes that they fixed the issue, but it seemed they were struggling. The coffee was amazing, the smoothies not so much.
What did I do? I accepted that the store was having a rough time, because clearly they didnt obviously want to intentionally sabbotage their own company, and so I went across the street and got a smoothie from somewhere else, but still continued to get coffees there.
Moral of the story? Well... You tell me OP.....
(hint, its definitely not "get over yourself and close your yapper")
The 3D scan capability of the N10+ is what intrigued me most about the phone. However, after release, most tests/examples of scans were disappointing. I read that the software was problematic and expected to be improved. Has this happened? Anyone actually using the phone to create exportable 3d files? If not, is improved 3d tech expected in the next version of the phone?
I tried it a bunch of times and could never get it to work. I mostly gave up since then though I did see that at least a couple of updates to the 3D scanner were released since then. I am yet to try this again.
I see so little about this feature. I really hoped there was more info.
CalypsoDroid said:
I see so little about this feature. I really hoped there was more info.
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I've tried it a few times, some of them recently. It still works like garbage. It was a really cool idea but the execution has been totally worthless. I think they found the greenest intern they could find and had them randomly copy/paste code from StackOverflow until a program aaaaaaaallllmost formed. Then the intern went back to college and the company janitor took over development. It's just so completely stupid to put a 3D ToF sensor on the phone then totally bork the software and just never fix it. I suppose I shouldn't expect any less from the idiots who built LinuxOnDex then just suddenly aborted development even though it was working perfectly fine. Samsung is the new Google. Never trust anything either of them start. They're 90% likely to never finish it and just discontinue it suddenly.
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I've tried it a few times, some of them recently. It still works like garbage. It was a really cool idea but the execution has been totally worthless. I think they found the greenest intern they could find and had them randomly copy/paste code from StackOverflow until a program aaaaaaaallllmost formed. Then the intern went back to college and the company janitor took over development. It's just so completely stupid to put a 3D ToF sensor on the phone then totally bork the software and just never fix it. I suppose I shouldn't expect any less from the idiots who built LinuxOnDex then just suddenly aborted development even though it was working perfectly fine. Samsung is the new Google. Never trust anything either of them start. They're 90% likely to never finish it and just discontinue it suddenly.
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There is so much truth in this it's scary. Samsung Cloud was just going through my head as I was reading this. Launched, billed as the next best thing to happen to Android devices, then failed to roll out with any sort of desktop support, followed by failure to support buying more storage in almost all regions followed by scrapping of the whole thing and some quasi-partnership with Microsoft to use OneDrive. I can think of a bunch more features like this that Samsung devised and that never took off. The fact that the ToF sensor is not being utilized for better photography is also baffling to me. Samsung's default implementation of DoF is absolutely horrible.
A couple of days ago there was a new update. This doesn't make it suddenly scan things properly. I tried several things, mostly stuffed animals / dog toys as those are about the right size and don't move. Still works like crap. It does an OK job sometimes but the 3D sensor is very picky. I tried to scan a very large mug that is plastic and some of the pieces were too shiny and hardly showed up. I tried to scan a rubber dog toy and it kind of worked but the process was irritating. I tried to scan a large stuffed animal chicken. It's probably 3 feet tall, plush, and covered in fake fur (why would a chicken be furry? The world may never know). This worked OK, the model is decent. But, it was tough to keep my phone at the proper distance as I moved around it. That's mostly my problem but the app is super brittle. If you move too abruptly or you accidentally point your camera too far away it just immediately aborts. I've got programs for the PC that use a Kinect sensor from the XBOX to do scanning and those work similarly but generally tell you if you're getting off course and allow you to try to move back into position rather than just suddenly aborting the scan.
Forget trying to scan your pets. Animals move far too much. Probably forget trying to scan a person. It's hard for a person to sit perfectly still for long enough and this software isn't very forgiving. Though, scanning either pets or people does allow for some bazaar lovecraftian horrors to emerge. If you want to transform your pet into the Thing then this is the way to do it.
I think the problem is that they've got too large a mission. The app supports all kinds of dumb stuff like animating your 3D model after you capture it, etc. They really needed to focus on actually being able to capture models reliably before implementing all the cutesy garbage on top of it. The sad thing is that, for all the crap I give them about how bad it is, it's actually almost there. It's just right on the cusp of working. I can capture models of stuff. They're just very difficult to get working and when I do I see some aberrations that shouldn't be there. It's close to working and if they'd just hunker down and fix the weirdness in capture it could be great in short order. But, it seems like development on this is very slow and too spread out across all the other needless stuff it can do. It needs to scan stuff reliably and then they can work on the other gee-whiz features.
For your viewing pleasure, I've attached the best model I've gotten captured so far - the fuzzy chicken. It's large, it's in charge, it worked pretty well. Behold, the best the 3D Scanner on a Note 10+ can do. I attached both the model output from the 3d Scanner app and a picture of the base model (with no texturing) from Blender so you can see the smoothness and detail of the model without the texture obscuring it. I suppose it's fairly decent but I wouldn't directly use it to 3D print something.
Collin80 said:
A couple of days ago there was a new update. This doesn't make it suddenly scan things properly. I tried several things, mostly stuffed animals / dog toys as those are about the right size and don't move. Still works like crap. It does an OK job sometimes but the 3D sensor is very picky. I tried to scan a very large mug that is plastic and some of the pieces were too shiny and hardly showed up. I tried to scan a rubber dog toy and it kind of worked but the process was irritating. I tried to scan a large stuffed animal chicken. It's probably 3 feet tall, plush, and covered in fake fur (why would a chicken be furry? The world may never know). This worked OK, the model is decent. But, it was tough to keep my phone at the proper distance as I moved around it. That's mostly my problem but the app is super brittle. If you move too abruptly or you accidentally point your camera too far away it just immediately aborts. I've got programs for the PC that use a Kinect sensor from the XBOX to do scanning and those work similarly but generally tell you if you're getting off course and allow you to try to move back into position rather than just suddenly aborting the scan.
Forget trying to scan your pets. Animals move far too much. Probably forget trying to scan a person. It's hard for a person to sit perfectly still for long enough and this software isn't very forgiving. Though, scanning either pets or people does allow for some bazaar lovecraftian horrors to emerge. If you want to transform your pet into the Thing then this is the way to do it.
I think the problem is that they've got too large a mission. The app supports all kinds of dumb stuff like animating your 3D model after you capture it, etc. They really needed to focus on actually being able to capture models reliably before implementing all the cutesy garbage on top of it. The sad thing is that, for all the crap I give them about how bad it is, it's actually almost there. It's just right on the cusp of working. I can capture models of stuff. They're just very difficult to get working and when I do I see some aberrations that shouldn't be there. It's close to working and if they'd just hunker down and fix the weirdness in capture it could be great in short order. But, it seems like development on this is very slow and too spread out across all the other needless stuff it can do. It needs to scan stuff reliably and then they can work on the other gee-whiz features.
For your viewing pleasure, I've attached the best model I've gotten captured so far - the fuzzy chicken. It's large, it's in charge, it worked pretty well. Behold, the best the 3D Scanner on a Note 10+ can do. I attached both the model output from the 3d Scanner app and a picture of the base model (with no texturing) from Blender so you can see the smoothness and detail of the model without the texture obscuring it. I suppose it's fairly decent but I wouldn't directly use it to 3D print something.
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How did you manage to put it in blender?
I played with it but more a curiosity than a useful tool. It really ate cpu cycles/current like crazy though. I guess if I needed a hand warmer I might use it again
may i know how do you scan a 3d model? been finding the app for some time already but cant find it
conanDO98 said:
may i know how do you scan a 3d model? been finding the app for some time already but cant find it
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Search for "3D Scanner" in the Galaxy Store (not Google Play Store) and download the app.