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GPS

Hi,
I have always wondered, do I need a data plan in order to use GPS on this device? This is my first device to have built-in GPS. For the past few days I have only been using it at home where there is a wifi connection and it picks up my location with no problems. GPRS is turned off on the device since I do not have a data plan (very expensive with Rogers). What I'm wondering is if I will need a constant data connection to use the map (Google maps) outside the house.

If you are using Google Maps you would need a data connection because the maps are stored on their server and therefore have to be loaded onto your device. If you don't want to use the data connection you'll have to download third party GPS maps onto your device such as Garmin Mobile XT, TomTom 7, or ZorroGPS. If you have the maps stored on your device there is no need to access any information over a data connection.

Thanks for the quick response....
Any recomendations?

If you just want driving directions, iGO8 is pretty good.

Thanks! Thats pretty much all I need!
I'll check it out and report back.

The website says "It only runs on the on the original SD card". I already have a 16GB SD card and I can't lose that to run GPS software.
Did I read wrong?

iGO8 runs on any SD (or even internal memory), Garmin, as they say, only runs on their microSD cards.

Hmm, weird thing is on Nav N Go website, iGO8 is not available in with Canadian maps. Is this correct or am I weird?

You can copy Garmin to your own SD card. It does take some hacking, but totally possible. Do a google search, there is a very useful thread on AT&T Wireless' forums.

After a some research, I finally bumped into CoPilot Live 8. Looks amazing!!! I already purchased it and will be testing it out over the weekend.
Thanks for all your suggestions.

How has the CoPilot worked out?
Does look good, and cheap... looks like you have to buy the software with each map though. Still, another licence I suppose!

p_shep said:
How has the CoPilot worked out?
Does look good, and cheap... looks like you have to buy the software with each map though. Still, another licence I suppose!
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There are mixed reviews of CoPilot 8. Have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548314
http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/08/17/ALK-CoPilot-Live-8-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
I remember reading some complaints that maps were rather out of date, but can't find the references to those reviews (sorry!).

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How has the CoPilot worked out?
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In short, I'm happy with it. Then again, I don't have much to compare it with. The graphics are simple and clean, and the response and accuracy is pretty satisfactory. I'll see if I can get you some screenshots.

Me too
I used to be a diehard TomTom customer but have switched to CoPilot since getting the TouchPro2. I got cheesed off with TomTom's lack of recognition for their customers, tried the Copilot demo that HTC had on their site liked but live 8 and haven't had any problems with it, maps are clean and easy to understand, it's got some nice little features like lane directions when coming off a motorway (might be UK specific, not sure).
I've since converted all my favourites from TomTom and imported them into CoPilot as POI's so happier than a pig in the proverbial

Oh, how do you convert the favourites? I googled, but couldn't find much.

Is any one using IGuidance 2009 on TP2? I sent an email to support to check if it works on WVGA, and got the reply saying it will but the screen will not use full WVGA while using menus, but while driving, it will use full screen. That way it's working fine, but the TTS is not working, it just says "turn right on to" and does not say street name. It's working great on Fuze.
Is it working for anyone here?
Thanks

pistou said:
There are mixed reviews of CoPilot 8. Have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548314
http://www.trustedreviews.com/car-tech/review/2009/08/17/ALK-CoPilot-Live-8-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
I remember reading some complaints that maps were rather out of date, but can't find the references to those reviews (sorry!).
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The maps are definitely a bit out of date -- I run CPL 8 on my Fuze (soon to upgrade to Tilt 2), and its maps don't include my parents' subdivision, which was built in 2006.
However, ALK has just rolled out their MapSure program -- just report map omissions/errors, and they promise to have new maps ready in 45 days.

CoPilot 8 bug
Has anyone noticed a bug in CoPilot Live 8 where if you select POI > Nearby > Restaurants, it gives you a list of hotels. And if you select hotels, it says "Restaurants" but with an empty list? I noticed this the first time I installed and even after upgrading my ROM to 6.5

I currently have TomTom it it get my by for local or short trips when I don't have my Garmin (stand alone unit). For long trips I try to avoid it as it's routing isn't as good as my Garmin. I think I will eventually buy Garmin XT for my Tilt 2.
TomTom allows for great user customization of menus and such, but I'm willing to give that up for better routing, especially on long trips.
I've considered the other GPS programs out there, but don't have any experience with them. So I think it eventualy going to be Garmin for me.

GPS?

Hi Guys,
Was wondering - which is a good free GPS app to use for the Desire? I want to use the built in GPS chip - not the google maps over the network thing?
Thanks.

I'm loving google navigation at the moment. Not any good for you?
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I can understand why someone in Europe doesn't want to use Google nav when he/she is abroad: the roaming costs will kill you !

I am not in Europe. I am in South Africa.
Does Google Navigation work in SA ?

siliconaddict said:
I can understand why someone in Europe doesn't want to use Google nav when he/she is abroad: the roaming costs will kill you !
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I second that!
I don't know if it exists: free offline navigation. You'll always have to buy the maps to store on your SD card.
There are apps like MapDroyd that can download maps to your SD card beforehand. However, I don't think the navigation is as good as Tomtom or Garmin software.

Okay thanks guys. I think I will just buy the Copilot App, actually.

Waze perhaps, user generated content that grows everyday the more people use it.

Hi there.
This is my first post
I'm also in south Africa. Let's just say that the mobile data charges are insane here.
I tested Google navigator. It definitely works. It just chows data.
Are there any voice aided navigators around besides copilot?
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Guys, I am also in South Africa and know your pain.
I ran Garmin XT on my other HTC's and it worked 100%.
I ordered the Desire yesterday and should have it next week.
So as soon as I get it, I will be doing alot of testing and playing.
Hopefully we can find something that works here by us.

Ok, well I tried a few options and so far Ndrive seems to work pretty well.
The maps, accuracy and voice are very decent in my opinion.
Only 1 issue I seem to have is if I go off the route it tells me to go on, it crashes.

Navigon 2.6.1

Have anyone got this working on the SGS?
I´ve got it installed, but cant get it to navigate me since it say it cant lock on enugh satelites to guide me.
But google maps can find me ofc within 50m

hy ... where can i download this app NAVIGON ... because i didnt find ..thx

i hope you are not using it indoor...
it needs to lock to at least 4 satellite before it can work properly

I have another question regardin Navigon 2.6.1.
I am unable to use it for multi-countries routes. The program says: Unable to caltulate the route (error 472). However, it works perfectly for one-country routes.

deng3l said:
hy ... where can i download this app NAVIGON ... because i didnt find ..thx
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http://gxiso.com/android/264975-navigon-2-6-1-android.html
AllGamer said:
i hope you are not using it indoor...
it needs to lock to at least 4 satellite before it can work properly
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using it outside, will try again today.

freshko said:
I have another question regardin Navigon 2.6.1.
I am unable to use it for multi-countries routes. The program says: Unable to caltulate the route (error 472). However, it works perfectly for one-country routes.
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That's a well known problem, which for what I know is due to the fact that you're using a non-legal version. It it said that the original, legal version (which you actually pay for) doesn't have this problem. I guess that if you have had a legal version, you would be asking Navigon about this problem.
So do the math. Buy the legal version or keep using the non-legal version, which doesn't work properly.

on my galaxy S Navigon 2.6.1 works perfectly.
just installed it the normal way!
Ok sometimes the position could be more exactly, but thats a problem of my galaxy s I think.

works, just needs some time to start

tried walking around where i live, and it finaly picked up my position. so it works after all

Does Navigon purely use GPS, or does it require internet access?
I am asking because I would not want charges in foreign countries.

No Navigon dont need any internet...
works with your preinstalled maps

Basari said:
No Navigon dont need any internet...
works with your preinstalled maps
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Thanks, much appreciated.

thats the reason i got it needed a gps tracker that dont need internet

OMG, i installed the Navigon App from market just to test it and see if it is better than the NDrive. After downloading almost 2GB of Mapdata it had not my Street on the map!!!
Ok i live outside of a city in Portugal, but sorry, this is just redicilous. Even 15 years old paper maps have this...
Then i wanted to try out the navigation function but it didn´t work. It found my position and changed it on the map while moving but when trying to set a destination it complained every time "Simulation cannot be startet" Simulation? WTH?? Even tried restarting the phone, but app won´t make a navigation...
Anyone else with this problem?
Edit: Now i compared the Map size on SD Card of Navigon from Portugal with the one from Ndrive. Maybe this doesn´t mean so much, but the Map of Navigon has about 50 MB and the one from Ndrive 200 MB. This could explain why my street isn´t available on Navigon XD

[Q] Sygic Aura for Android

I’m using Sygic Aura.
Have a few question. I guess they are pretty general:
Can I change voices in some way?
When I try and navigate to a contact, I have to update its position in the program. Is there a way to get it to understand the contact address right away?
When I’m using Sygic Aura and is logged in to their live service I see pictures of certain locations (they appear as icon sized pictures). Can I preview the in a larger format in some way?
Anyone here have a clue?

I'm having problems with mine. The software installs correctly, but cannot get a GPS fix, which keeps flicking on and off so that the map display constantly jumps between active coloured map and greyed out maps when the GPS signal disconnects. I'm using LeeDroid ROM. I have used the same trial on my Desire HD with no problems (also LeeDroid ROM).
Anyone have any ideas what might be the problem? No point buying the software if I can't get it to work...

Ethania said:
I’m using Sygic Aura.
Have a few question. I guess they are pretty general:
Can I change voices in some way?
When I try and navigate to a contact, I have to update its position in the program. Is there a way to get it to understand the contact address right away?
When I’m using Sygic Aura and is logged in to their live service I see pictures of certain locations (they appear as icon sized pictures). Can I preview the in a larger format in some way?
Anyone here have a clue?
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you can change voices in the settings, and navigate to a friends address by using there postcode/zipcode its easer...

nubbin said:
I'm having problems with mine. The software installs correctly, but cannot get a GPS fix, which keeps flicking on and off so that the map display constantly jumps between active coloured map and greyed out maps when the GPS signal disconnects. I'm using LeeDroid ROM. I have used the same trial on my Desire HD with no problems (also LeeDroid ROM).
Anyone have any ideas what might be the problem? No point buying the software if I can't get it to work...
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i had the same problem on my desire, works fine on my DHD though, maybe you should wait a bit longer for a gps fix

AndroHero said:
i had the same problem on my desire, works fine on my DHD though, maybe you should wait a bit longer for a gps fix
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That's interesting - it suggests the software is a bit flaky. I left it running whilst I went for a drive, and it did the same for about 40 minutes, and never got a full fix. Worked perfectly on the Desire though. Very strange. I won't be buying the full version at the moment that's for sure!

i got aura fully working on my DHD with fast gps fix
i have read some tips and tricks
install aura apk
reboot
download map
start aura and setup to your needs and likes
reboot
before using it to navigate, let it atleast fix once (stationary) completly
than you should have a fix almost directly(i have, even in my appartment)

Marcus_de_zwarte said:
i got aura fully working on my DHD with fast gps fix
i have read some tips and tricks
install aura apk
reboot
download map
start aura and setup to your needs and likes
reboot
before using it to navigate, let it atleast fix once (stationary) completly
than you should have a fix almost directly(i have, even in my appartment)
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Thanks I'll give it a try
BTW in my original post I should have said the trial works on my Desire, and not on the DHD. However, I have tried the above suggestion, and got the whole thing working. It's interesting that you can download the entire world in maps if you want, for a 7 day trial period. need to drive fast then!

I'm not happy with Sygic Aura at all.
First I really liked it and bought it but there are now 'bugs' introduced which renders this door to door gps software as useless.
Since ver2.1x you do not get arrival time (owww small bug according to the support team)
Last couple of weeks I noticed that in some big streets there is no way to insert a house number, euhm excuse me on a road that is about 10km long in the middle of Brussels, not so funny if you have professional contacts and you have to drive in that jungle staring at house numbers.
I just tried another couple of my other addresses and no house number, just unbelievable.
Tried my colleagues Navigon and tried iGO on my WinMo pda and house numbers everywhere, so software bug.
The support says that they are working on it and that it would just take weeks to solve the 'small bugs'.
At this moment I am so angry that I am going to claim my money back via paypal.

I can't even get it to run.
It was all ok for a while and then I flashed a new rom and it started force closing on me after I reinstalled it.
Can't really be bothered with it since the routing was gimp anyway.

I think Sygic have some work to do...
Latest version of Aura is still way to buggy for everyday use.
It has, in my opinion, the best looking UI of most (maybe all) SatNav apps for Android, but it has some serious flaws when it come to giving directions.
I have previously written a post on my views here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988
Dazultra and I have also done a SatNav comparison:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902264
Please have a look

I tried Aura on my DHD for some time. Did every tric I could find to get a stable GPS based position, but my location keeps jumping around or is lagging behind for sometimes 30 second.
Driving in the city this is unacceptable. I'm missing turns because Aura thinks I'm still 50-100 meters back.
I installed GPS Status and used it to force a cold boot for my GPS. Put it outside on my gardentable for 1 hour (10 min would have been more than sufficient, but I forgot all about it )
No improvement with jumpy and lagging position in Aura.
So now I removed Aura again and thats too bad. Sygic Aura is at this moment the nicest looking and most complete (incl. rather cheap traffic info) nav. system.
On the other hand, I would realy like IGOmyWay or IGO PRIMO on my DHD with full resolution. I threw out my WM (Touch HD) phone some weeks ago on which I had PRIMO including working TMC. That was fantastic, and fully configurable (sys.txt).
Let's see what the next months brings us.....

Sygic Aura on Desire HD
Hi everyone
I've just started using Aura on my Desire HD - impressed with the UI etc, but have a couple of niggles which people may be able to help with...
I've got the paid version 2.1, build R-20021, running on stock Desire HD, android 2.2
Changing voice - I've browsed the files using Astro and I have a female voice (amongst others)... how do i change the settings to use this voice file?
On my version, I can only turn on/off voice navigation, though i can change the different alert/warning sounds.
Re: speed camera/speed limit database... does anyone know how often this is updated? I'm based in UK and a local mainroad is indicating the incorrect speed limit (it changed from 60 -> 50 about 4years ago)...
Thanks in advance

Does someone recongnize the lagging behaviour of Aura as I describes 2 posts ago?

manipel said:
Does someone recongnize the lagging behaviour of Aura as I describes 2 posts ago?
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Me too. I drive with constant speed and the cursor freezes or de-accelerate then accelerates... then de-accelerate again... etc.. With navigon and Igo everything is fine! I have DHD with leddroid but It was the same with stock 1.72

I have exactly the same GPS-lagging problem with this program. Really odd though, as you would expect that the program gets the GPS info from android, just like any other navigation program (i.e. google maps).

Mashadar said:
I have exactly the same GPS-lagging problem with this program. Really odd though, as you would expect that the program gets the GPS info from android, just like any other navigation program (i.e. google maps).
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I also noticed the gps lag and it's terrible! This renders the app useless wich is too bad as I also like the user interface alot... Im using the latest Aura v2.1.3

A70 GPS Problems on Certain Countries

Hi all,
Some time ago when I got my A70 I discovered that GPS didn't work well. In fact it didn't work at all. Using GPS Test APP the phone was able to find around 30 satellites with good signal but it would not "lock" the position therefore I could not use GPS based apps like navigation or speedometer!
Yesterday I went to another country to just discover that navigation was working perfectly and that was only until at the border, at the border the GPS stopped working again and phone returned to no navigation again!
Now I started wondering if the GPS issue is country (state) related?
Do any of you have GPS problems?
Can you think of any solution in case my suspicion is true?
P.S It is worth to state that weather was all the time clear with no clouds and the country problem is also present on other apps like, Samsung store, play store etc. Where many items are not available for purchase or download!

Are you in Syria?

Sunspark said:
Are you in Syria?
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Hahahahahhaha NO lol!
I'm form Kosova and I was in Albania and Montenegro to discover that in AL/MNE GPS was working but in Kosova NO!

Which operator are you using, Vala or Ipko.