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Any suggestions for a good Map & Atlas program ?

Hi !
I'm kind of lost with these programs available for windows mobile and wich one fits with the htc s620 ...
I'm looking for a good program for maps and atlas. I don't want to program to connect to the internet to get the maps tought since i don't want my cell company to charge me for the data downloaded.
Anyone has an idea ?

No one has a program that they love for maps ? =)

google maps works good with it man..u can jus use wifi...free..has a mylocation service which is like gps and it gets pretty close..1000 meters maximum...

no one here really uses map/atlas stuff, besides google maps, because this phone doesnt have gps. i personally wont buy a gps receiver for it, because its old hardware...id rather put that money into a new phone that has gps..

Well, i'm not really wanting to buy a GPS for it ...
I just want something to look thru maps like microsoft maps (Im not sure of the name of their software) ?
I just dont wanna overload the data transfer on my cellphone in case my provider decide to charge me even if it's unlimited internet .... they charge me for each Kilobyte i load.

I was wondering if Tomtom will work on my htc without a GPS ?
I mean, would i be able to search for streets and see my way thru ?
Cause i'm planning on going to a week-end out of town so i'm preparing myself =D

I would recommend google maps, as it is free and mostly reliable for the most part.

Cyberflow said:
I was wondering if Tomtom will work on my htc without a GPS ?
I mean, would i be able to search for streets and see my way thru ?
Cause i'm planning on going to a week-end out of town so i'm preparing myself =D
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I believe that you will need a GPS device (a bluetooth gps device to connect it to your phone).

Static Maps
I'm also looking for " static " maps. There must be some thing available that we can download. I'm not interested in GPS related maps only a static map of Toronto, Canada. Any help is appreciated.

google maps
google maps
google maps
has that been mentioned here yet?

mjpuczko said:
google maps
google maps
google maps
has that been mentioned here yet?
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No it has not been mention so I am going to let you all know that GOOGLE MAPS is the best.

Everyone over looks the obvious. Microsoft Live. Decent map program (and more) and its already on the device. Personally I use Google Maps and MapQuest Navigator, both with my b-speech bluetooth GPS. MS Live works just fine except the Ariel Maps are in black and white lol

[Q] GPS on DHD

Those of you who already have the DHD in your hands, could someone confirm or reject the following about the GPS software?
- I've read that the software included with DHD is on a subscription basis so, you need to pay monthly or yearly fees to use it. Is it true?
- What software is included for GPS?
- Can anyone confirm if maps with street names for Cyprus are included?
- Finally, in case that the included software is either unavailable for Cyprus or the subscription is not cheap enough, could we install MLS destinator which is alerady working fine for Cyprus?

I don't want to bother the GPS software original come from DHD....
I rather use CoPilot.... more better...
The google GPS not really good enough compare with others GPS Apps...

I use Google Maps with Voice Navigation, no charges for that. There is another Nav app on the phone where the maps are there but not the voice (I think) you have to pay for the extras.
For me Google Maps are fine.

You have to buy features for the software. Turn-by-turn navigation, speedcams, traffic info, etc. The software and maps are free.
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andreasy said:
- I've read that the software included with DHD is on a subscription basis so, you need to pay monthly or yearly fees to use it. Is it true?
- What software is included for GPS?
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2 applications are included:
1. Google Maps and you can download Google navigation (maps are not on the phone so you need a connection at all times).
2. HTC Locations. This is using the well known Route 66 software as a basis. You can download all of the country maps worldwide for free on your phone. And you can use it for free.
If you need added services, such as navigation, speedcams & traffic info you have to pay a sub.
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- Can anyone confirm if maps with street names for Cyprus are included?
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I don't see a Cyprus map in the list, but Greece and Turkey are there, perhaps Cyprus is included in the Turkey map?
andreasy said:
- Finally, in case that the included software is either unavailable for Cyprus or the subscription is not cheap enough, could we install MLS destinator which is alerady working fine for Cyprus?
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You can install any navigation sofware that works on Android.
Personally, I use Navigon.

BigMango said:
I don't see a Cyprus map in the list, but Greece and Turkey are there, perhaps Cyprus is included in the Turkey map?
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My friend, I appreciate your interest to help and I thank you but what you just said here is a big foul. Just think.

Hey andreasy!
I live in Cyprus too, and as far as i can tell, the HTC software will NOT work in Cyprus cause there aren't Cyprus maps, which is really unfortunate.
But "iGo My Way" does, and it has a Cyprus map too. I have it on my computer here and it works on the android emulator. pm me if you need some help.

Thanks. Do you by any chance know about MLS destinator availability on Desire HD and if iGO can compare to MLS? I use it on a PNA and I am quite satisfied.
Does iGO have all the street info and POIs like MLS (ATM, Gas stations, etc?)

to be honest i haven't heard of MLS. I google'd it and it looks like there is an android version so it should work with DHD.
As for iGO check your pms.

BigMango said:
1. Google Maps and you can download Google navigation (maps are not on the phone so you need a connection at all times).
2. HTC Locations. This is using the well known Route 66 software as a basis. You can download all of the country maps worldwide for free on your phone. And you can use it for free.
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Are there not supposed to be maps stored for the 'Maps' app already on the phone?
I was under the impression that I could use pre-loaded maps on the phone, at least thats how HTC made it sound, but it seems I need to be connected to Wi-Fi or network data to use this app, am I doing something wrong or will it only work in the 'locations' app you mentioned?
NVM caught the answer in this thread.

There are preloaded maps for the Location app. You can download more maps for free. However it is only for Locations app. Google Maps needs internet connection to work. If you don't have data plan or in roaming, you can use Location app without any data being transfered, however your GPS fix could take longer without AGPS.
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andreasy said:
Those of you who already have the DHD in your hands, could someone confirm or reject the following about the GPS software?
- I've read that the software included with DHD is on a subscription basis so, you need to pay monthly or yearly fees to use it. Is it true?
- What software is included for GPS?
- Can anyone confirm if maps with street names for Cyprus are included?
- Finally, in case that the included software is either unavailable for Cyprus or the subscription is not cheap enough, could we install MLS destinator which is alerady working fine for Cyprus?
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I have the DHD in Cyprus. Google maps works and it has street names. However Google cannot give you driving instructions. It is possible to download country maps from Android market but Cyprus in not included. Basically you cannot use driving instructions in Cyprus but you can view maps and see street names.
I am not sure if MLS has released an Android version but I know that there are other GPS software you can install. I will try and find out which software works for Android and I will let you know

Thanks, I have been using MLS destinator 7 & 8 and I am quite satisfied with the software itself and the included POIs but the maps are outdated and no updates are provided for Cyprus.
If any of you find any good software that gets updated, let's have recommendations. I know that Garmin is the best as a software and in terms of updates for Cyprus but they have locked their software on their devices and on specific phones only so this is out of question.

Im using Navicom now, i did use Copilot before but i feel that Navicom is better and the voice guide have great timing now, my taste it has a better layout. Anyways im happy with it so far.
Does anybody know how much the navprog that came with the phone will cost after the 30days trail ?

MrGarak said:
Are there not supposed to be maps stored for the 'Maps' app already on the phone?
I was under the impression that I could use pre-loaded maps on the phone, at least thats how HTC made it sound, but it seems I need to be connected to Wi-Fi or network data to use this app, am I doing something wrong or will it only work in the 'locations' app you mentioned?
NVM caught the answer in this thread.
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What HTC is advertising is that you can preset your route from home where you have Wi-Fi and the phone will download the maps needed. When you are on the road the phoen uses the pre-downloaded maps. However if you decide to change route or go on another trip you need to use your data plan to download new maps.
Thats why its better to have a dedicated navigation program like IGO with all countrry maps pre-installed on the phone. No need to download from home or use your data plan.
In addition Google maps Navigation is not available for all countries Cyprus is one of the Countries that are not supported.

andreasy said:
Thanks, I have been using MLS destinator 7 & 8 and I am quite satisfied with the software itself and the included POIs but the maps are outdated and no updates are provided for Cyprus.
If any of you find any good software that gets updated, let's have recommendations. I know that Garmin is the best as a software and in terms of updates for Cyprus but they have locked their software on their devices and on specific phones only so this is out of question.
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IGO works fine. The maps for Cyprus are of 2009.

andreasy said:
Those of you who already have the DHD in your hands, could someone confirm or reject the following about the GPS software?
- I've read that the software included with DHD is on a subscription basis so, you need to pay monthly or yearly fees to use it. Is it true?
- What software is included for GPS?
- Can anyone confirm if maps with street names for Cyprus are included?
- Finally, in case that the included software is either unavailable for Cyprus or the subscription is not cheap enough, could we install MLS destinator which is alerady working fine for Cyprus?
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Use the gps all the time, which works very well to be honest, i have co pilot live 8 installed (£25) works perfect, no extra bills as it comes off the data allowance you have.
Google maps is pre installed as far as i could see but compared to co pilot it fails.

boarne71 said:
Im using Navicom now, i did use Copilot before but i feel that Navicom is better and the voice guide have great timing now, my taste it has a better layout. Anyways im happy with it so far.
Does anybody know how much the navprog that came with the phone will cost after the 30days trail ?
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Press update in the Locations menu and you will get the different prices for different length of subscription. It's differs from country to country..

It's frustrating that everyone tells a different version of the story. Here goes my version which I think is accurate as I actually have a DHD and have done for 3 weeks...
The phone comes preinstalled with Google Maps, and HTC Locations.
Google Maps: Downloads data as and when it needs it. Therefore for every route, you will have to download data on-the-go. It works pretty well though and has a nice enough interface. All text is TTS, so sounds a bit jerky. Will do postcode lookup.
HTC Locations: This comprises of 2 sections. 1: Maps; which is free for everything, works just like Google Maps but has the funky compass functionality. 2: Navigation; This is the SatNav part of the product. You have to pay for a license for a map, which allows you to use turn-by-turn nav. Once you have the license for your country and have downloaded the map, then you do not need to download any more data. At this point it functions exactly like a regular PND (TomTom etc). Text is pre-sampled so sounds a lot nicer (but can't read road names). It can be supplemented by live traffic and speed camera alerts, which are both extra subscriptions.
With locations, you can download as many regular maps as you like and all you pay is data connection fees (if done over 3G etc) to get them.
With the Navigation part of it, you have to pay for all of it. Nothing is free (though you do get a 30 day trial of one map)
Also the HTC app doesn't do postcode lookup, which is probably the biggest problem with it.
In my opinion, neither are really up to scratch and do not form a decent replacement for my TomTom (on my old Touch Pro2!).
I have Navigon on my phone, and that is a better solution, but the interface is quite horrible (i.e. you can't display time, arrival time and speed on the screen at the same time) and also I find that entering addresses using the on-screen keyboard doesn't really work properly (when holding the top row for a number, it doesn't work - I have to select the number section of the keyboard and press it from there).
I'm thinking of giving CoPilot a try to see if it's any cop...
I hope that helps clear things up.

All those info are great but they would only be helpful if we lived in a large country. It's still helpful though so, thanks.
From a very thorough research I found out that no matter which is the best navigation tool, for Cyprus things will be totally different. So we only have 2 options: iGo and MLS.
They are not the best tools but they are the only ones you can use on Android and they are the only ones that have Cyprus maps (with street names and spoken instructions), even if the maps are outdated and cover only the 80% of the island.
I have MLS on a PNA so maybe I give iGO a try in order to compare.
Thanks to everyone.

[Q] Navigation / Maps / Data

Hi all,
I'm going on holiday to South Africa and would like to use my DHD for navigation whilst I'm there however I don't want to incur any data charges if I need to download the maps. I've read on some places that you can pre download the maps somehow, how do I do this ?
Thanks,

Firstly, remember that you have to pay for navigation...
What you do is load Locations, then press "Show on Map" at the top.
Then press the menu button and select "Upgrade"
Then move to the Navigation tab (2nd one) and select South Africa and pay for however long you need it for. It should then download the map and everything it needs in advance.

You can download them from the phone, but there is a charge. IIRC around $6.99 for 3 month usage.

dazultra2000 said:
Firstly, remember that you have to pay for navigation...
What you do is load Locations, then press "Show on Map" at the top.
Then press the menu button and select "Upgrade"
Then move to the Navigation tab (2nd one) and select South Africa and pay for however long you need it for. It should then download the map and everything it needs in advance.
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Thanks for all this information. I think I might be confusing myself, you have mentioned "Locations", I thought this was an app to find restaurants etc. however I've opened it now and noticed that you can navigate using it, what is the difference between this navigation software and the Google Maps Navigation software. I was under the impression the Google Maps Navigation software was free or am I getting them mixed up.
When I load "Locations" I see "Powered by Route 66" everywhere ?

Google maps is free, but downloads the maps as you go - therefore, data costs would be incurred.
Locations is HTC's own navigation app, which pre-loads your maps but you have to pay for the navigation (though regular maps are free).

dazultra2000 said:
Google maps is free, but downloads the maps as you go - therefore, data costs would be incurred.
Locations is HTC's own navigation app, which pre-loads your maps but you have to pay for the navigation (though regular maps are free).
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You have to pay for voice navigation, although you could download the maps before you leave and get a short term subscription eg one month for cheap.
You can get directions without voice free though. Just gotta download the maps.
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dr.m0x said:
You can get directions without voice free though. Just gotta download the maps.
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Directions, yes, but not turn by turn navigation. Might as well print directions off from full Google maps...
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dazultra2000 said:
Directions, yes, but not turn by turn navigation. Might as well print directions off from full Google maps...
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Except if you do that you wont get a real time updating display showing your current location, and the directions won't update themselves when you make a wrong turn.

So can not we use any navigation apps in a different country to guide us as free with Android liek TomTom or IGO My Way (as I am using free in Iphone and only drains GPS data no romaing)?

eozen81 said:
So can not we use any navigation apps in a different country to guide us as free with Android liek TomTom or IGO My Way (as I am using free in Iphone and only drains GPS data no romaing)?
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As I understand it, the gps navigation works fine without data connection. You just should download the maps for the location your going to beforehand (or at a free wifi) so you don't get data charges. The part you pay for in the navigation app is the voice guide, wich IMO is pretty useless.

eozen81 said:
So can not we use any navigation apps in a different country to guide us as free with Android liek TomTom or IGO My Way (as I am using free in Iphone and only drains GPS data no romaing)?
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That is exactly what I wanted to know. When I get to South Africa I'm going to want to pull my sim card out of my phone to avoid been charged for any accidental data that might be downloaded as when I'm roaming in South Africa T-Mobile charges £7.50 a MB !!!!!! Question is will the navigation work without the sim card, I would like to think that it will only require GPS.
I'm going to do some testing here before I go, I will download the maps then pull the sim card out and see if it works.

MarkieSA, let us know the test results for Locations.

Wil-j said:
As I understand it, the gps navigation works fine without data connection. You just should download the maps for the location your going to beforehand (or at a free wifi) so you don't get data charges. The part you pay for in the navigation app is the voice guide, wich IMO is pretty useless.
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Isn't that the whole point of satnav? You're not just paying for the voice...you're paying for the turn by turn navigation. Without it you're just looking at a map. There's no directions (other than the list, which is hard (and illegal) to read when driving).
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I'm not in your league gents but using your build on HD2. I tried out this new Locations app and noticed it can build a route but the current location did not move along with my drive. I havent bought/paid for anything yet. I'm assuming once I do then the recalculation and the pointer will move with current location. Need to know cause DHD is arriving in the next few days
I'd leave your SIM installed and use a widget to disable the APN. I use Curvefish widgets.

For what it's worth, I recently took my car on the ferry from the UK to Ireland, so decided to use the pre-loaded Ireland maps to navigate my way to my destination.
I found that Locations worked ok, once it had a GPS lock, but found it difficult to find the perfect zoom level to look ahead to upcoming turns, while still seeing where I was. Basically I was looking down on myself on a map, whilst trying to follow the route drawn out on the map. It was nowhere near as using Google navigation with data, but it was adequate. I would have found it a lot easier if I had someone else in the car yelling out directions, as I was concentrating enough driving in the dark with the rain lashing down!
P.S. You don't need to worry about data charges while you're away, just make sure data roaming isn't selected in your Wireless and Network settings.

eozen81 said:
MarkieSA, let us know the test results for Locations.
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Right then I'm back from my holiday and this is what happened. Before I went on holiday I pre downloaded the South African maps using HTC locations and bought navigation for 30 days in South Africa.
When I got to South Africa I took out my T-Mobile sim card and inserted a local operators sim card with no data plan, when I fired up HTC locations and went to navigation it said to me that my maps were not up to date and it had to download the latest maps As I had a sim card in that had no data plans it did not work. After a few days I was in a WiFi hotspot and thought I would try and get this working again, I downloaded all the updated map data etc however after that the phone struggled to pin point my location. I tried again a few times after this then gave up.

Best Offline Navigation

HI
iam big fan of Navigon. Seems like there is no version the Galaxy S i9000 available with canadian und usa maps. I need them both. There is one floating around but it seems like its crashing all the the time.
I need a offline gps navigation including the north american maps. I do not have data.
Any suggestion if there is anything out there which can be used. I coudln't find anything
Thanks.

Try iGO for Android or Copilot. I use Igo and i'm quite pleased!

Simply the best:
http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html
Regards

Search for Navit.
Completely free offline gps navigation, and able to use openstreetmaps map.
Pretty sweet if you ask me.

indianx said:
HI
iam big fan of Navigon. Seems like there is no version the Galaxy S i9000 available with canadian und usa maps. I need them both. There is one floating around but it seems like its crashing all the the time.
I need a offline gps navigation including the north american maps. I do not have data.
Any suggestion if there is anything out there which can be used. I coudln't find anything
Thanks.
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Try IGO 8.3/8.4 for android.

IGO.
Note - version for Android has not so good user interface like on Windows Mobile. But the navigation in core and files are the same.

Co Pilot live .
jje

Sygic Aura for me

I probably wouldnt bother using this phone as a GPS unless absolutely emergency. Takes a good 20 minutes to lock onto satillite and even if it does lock on, signal drops occasionally... unless u fix the gps problem yourself.

gps working fine for me

JJEgan said:
Co Pilot live .
jje
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tempura said:
I probably wouldnt bother using this phone as a GPS unless absolutely emergency. Takes a good 20 minutes to lock onto satillite and even if it does lock on, signal drops occasionally... unless u fix the gps problem yourself.
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Try searching for GPS Aids in the market...

tempura said:
I probably wouldnt bother using this phone as a GPS unless absolutely emergency. Takes a good 20 minutes to lock onto satillite and even if it does lock on, signal drops occasionally... unless u fix the gps problem yourself.
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Well.. mine locks way faster due to a-gps and pre-loaded almanacs and is very stable. Depends on the modem, but as always your mileage my vary
I have Prestigio 450BT PNA, Dell Axim x51v with bluetooth gps and with CF gps, both Sirf Star 3, HTC Polaris and of course SGS. ( I know, I am a little GPS freak)
I have tested all of them and I would rate SGS in 1st place together with Sirf Star 3 GPSes
As a software I prefer iGO8.3 (not the Amigo that can be found on our SGS). For SGS I prefer NDrive and Co Pilot Live. The later seems more native to Android, has pin to zoom, etc. Fortunately my speed cam database source does not provide data in Co-Pilot Live format

I got Copilot. It completly **** !!! Never got the right position. Take Navigon, its the Best !

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I got Copilot. It completly **** !!! Never got the right position. Take Navigon, its the Best !
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lol navigon is not available at all in the android store. Especially not for canada

CoPilot
Amazing.

Copilot is not bad but some addresses do not exist.
Iam from Canada and navigon used to have my home address and copilot doesn't. What's the latest map for copilot?
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Best Offline Navigation App?

Don't have a data connection. Google Maps offline doesn't work with navigation. Looking for an offline navigation solution for Canada/US. Let me know if you know of any.

Try Sygic it has a 7 day free trial.

Try Navigon. I like it

Navigon works give it a try

Copilot is really good too. The turn by turn you have to pay for but the offline maps is good.
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Navigon by far when you have no data connection.
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How well does Navigon integrate with the rest of the Android ecosystem? For instance, I tried iGo in the past because I've used it on my standalone GPSs. However, I couldn't use it at all on Android because it was TOO standalone. I couldn't easily get addresses to flow into it, and the interface was too much like the standalone GPS and didn't use the familiar Android type menus at all. It didn't want to share with any other apps on the phone.
I would love to give Navigon a try, but the price is a bit steep. I've also seen a lot of talk about in-app purchases that get it more to the standalone GPS quaility (overviews, 3D maps, etc).
Finally, I've seen complaints in the app review that maps are out of date (Lots of one star ratings because of no Puerto Rico, but not a problem for me). Can anyone comment on map accuracy?

Try SyGic

I've tried apps mentioned here plus Copilot and Tomtom.
Sygic has best looking views, best voice and poi are not outdated. You can select to have smaller map sets to keep disk usage down. Editing startup file permits extSdCard or sdcard for map storage. There is pc program to download and store maps to transfer to device.

The google maps don't need data when on the move. you just need data/wifi to set the locations i.e. start point and end point... and then gps does the work.

I use sygic. It is awesome
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Last time I tried Navigon it needed data so i got rid of it. I have tried them all and IGO wins in the end for me. I'll have to try navigon again

Try navfree. You can download state maps and do offline route calculation.
No need for wifi or data signal.
Its free. So try it.
It has not let me down so far.. and i use it a lot.
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+1 Sygic is nice
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rvash said:
Don't have a data connection. Google Maps offline doesn't work with navigation. Looking for an offline navigation solution for Canada/US. Let me know if you know of any.
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NAV Free is the best for what I need. I travel into Canada and was able to download all of Canada (about 700MB for for the map)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.navfree.android.OSM.ALL
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