[Q] Unroot Desire / Temp Root - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was looking into unrooting and didn't really want to go down the route of using an RUU as you can't restore app settings that way - then I saw a thread about a temp root...
i.e.
root
backup with titanium
flash the device with the official RUU
Temp root so titanium works
restore files
is that possible with the desire?
I am thinking it'd be useful to be able to restore to factory default but still be able to restore app settings afterwards...
or even if you just flash on an official recovery file?

In theory that would work, however on my desire i had problems installing busybox so titanium back up wouldnt work properly.
The thing is, if you did it and it didnt work, recovering all apps would be difficult
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Unroot is RUU only, you can backup with Titanium and once you're unrooted you can use VISIONary to restore the data

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HTC Desire question

Hi people, is there a way to remove the stock app from HTC Corporation ???? i mean there are alot of useless programs i don't use and want them to remove.....but when i go to settings -> applications -> all applications tab i cant remove them.....why not
You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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AndroHero said:
You can remove them using adb or if you have "s-off" you can just delete the .apk's
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Using adb ??? do i need root to do so ? also i have s-on and i am affraid to brick my new phone.
You have to root to remove preinstalled apps.
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Ok thanks for the info....but what is adb ?
Edit: Found it i think http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?
MichelN said:
Another question (sorry). If i use a custom rom (need to root first and do s-off) and don't want to use it anymore....can i flash back to stock rom ? also if i do that i lose my root and s-off right ? so i need to re-do that.
Also i am from Europe (as you see in my profile) what version from this topic do i need ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
My device is NOT branded and simlock free. So i am guessing i need the WWE ?
PS: If i root with unrevoked, do i get backup tool ?
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You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
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Ik Desire said:
You don't need s-off to remove htc apps, just root. Only if you want to remove from a running system.
If you revert to stock you lose root, s-off and you get htc apps back.
You can use any gsm rom, only orange uk users need to be wary about the radio they flash i think (correct me if i'm wrong).
You cannot backup until after root, but then any recovery offers nandroid backup, and titanium backup offers apps and settings backup on any rooted rom.
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Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.
MichelN said:
Those backups nandroid/titanium .... i need to pay/download them manually or are they included after rooting with unrevoked3 ? i have readed somewhere unrevoked added a recovery too.
Also after root i don't get future updates from HTC right ??? People said if they use S-Off and get a update from HTC they might change the HBoot and lose S-Off again......i wonder how that is possible if they can't get updates after root.
Sorry for all those questions, this is my first Android/Linux device and i am new with this.
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No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps
h3llb3nd4 said:
No problems in asking questions this is the reason that XDA exsist
Nandroid backup: download Rom manager from market (free) and install clockworkmod recovery from within the app, reboot into recovery and do a FREE nandroid backup.
*edit you could also skip the Rom manager and just use the unrevoked recovery, it's up to you
Titanium: free version has restrictions, not sure what because I don't use it.
BTW you will basically update from XDA after using a custom Rom, the developers usually update their custom roms after an official update.
hope this helps
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Thanks for the info
Htc desire problem
Hello,
I am new and I in a problem with my HTC DESIRE.
I have a HTC DESIRE by the English operator O2 with HBOOT 0.93 and RADIO 5.09.05.30_2 I tried to install version FORYO 2.2 by WIFI, the file OTA2.2 was be download and I launched the installation. After some restart DESIRE jammed on the first screen (blue screen with the logo O2) since the tél does not ignite any more.
What is the solution for problem?????? What is that I have to install a new ROM??? What ROM and How????
Thank you very much for your help.
Please start your own thread for others to respond. Thanks.
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[Q] How to tell if it is rooted?

Hi,
I'm pretty new to all this and searched the forums quite a bit, I've rooted my device with unrevoked 3.22 but how do I tell it is really rooted? Connected to ADB I can't do "adb shell cat /proc/cmdline" while the system ist booted. It only works during recovery mode.
I received no error messages while doing the following procedure:
1) unrevoked TMO UK Branded
2) Flashed to WWE Stock Froyo
3) unrevoked Stock
Thanks
You should be rooted.
Try an app from the market that requests root. Titanium or similar.
Or, see if yoy can get into the custom recovery. Vol down + power then choose recovery. You should have the clockwork panel or equivalent.
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I think I understood the point:
a) I have access to the recovery image clockwork mod (did a nandroid backup), but
b) I have a htc stock image whicht is not rooted, so Titanium Backup gives me an error message. I have to get another rooted rom.
But is it possible to do the S-OFF AlphaRev mod first, before aving a rooted rom?
Thanks
If you've made a nand backup then you should be rooted.
Do you have the superuser app in your apps drawer?
Im not too sure about your second comment.
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You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
3722 said:
You can not go s-off without root.
And yes your comments are contradicting.
You can't have a custom recovery or a nandroid if you have not rooted.
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using unrevoked.. you should've an app called super user or something similar now. it's a nina / sniper like icon..
I have this ninja/sniper but I also get the message that Titanium Backup needs root but the permission is NOT granted!
I assume, that unrevoked worked and I have the clockwork recovery, but my rom is stock and not rooted. I will get a new rooted rom tomorrow, now its a little late to sort such a stuff out ...

Restore my DHD to Stock

Currently I have a rooted DHD, with RADIO S OFF, and running a gingerbread build.
I am curious as to how I would go back to fully stock? Like how I bought it with no traces of any messing around with it.
Nothing happened to my phone and I love my rooted device, just wondering in case I want to sell it or if I need to bring it in for physical damages.
Thanks!
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Download the wwe ruu and run it, that will flash the phone back to stock.
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Blinkydamo said:
Download the wwe ruu and run it, that will flash the phone back to stock.
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Do you know where i can get this from?
Although if you want to get back to 100% stock you will also need to reverse radio s-off. You do have your partition 7 backup safe I hope.
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How do you restore the partition 7 backup?
Good question I need to know the same thing.
pennza2010 said:
Do you know where i can get this from?
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here
angel129116 said:
How do you restore the partition 7 backup?
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With Clockwork recovery 3.x, although slightly flaky at the moment so you first need to reflash your gingerbread rom, then boot into recovery, go to backup / restore and use advanced option to restore /data
So just to make this clear.
1. Flash RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed
2. Boot into recovery and restore the partition 7 backup?
3. Everything back to normal?
What about S-OFF and Radio S-OFF?
mats-norway said:
So just to make this clear.
1. Flash RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed
2. Boot into recovery and restore the partition 7 backup?
3. Everything back to normal?
What about S-OFF and Radio S-OFF?
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Flashing the RUU will deal with S-OFF as it will replace the bootloader, radio S-OFF you would need to revert yourself, the RUU will also replace the recovery partition with stock so simplest thing would be to backup apps and data with Titanium (also backup sms with sms backup or similar) flash RUU then boot into ROM set up all the google stuff then install Titanium again and restore apps and data, you will not be able to restore system data without introducing some instability in the system though.
I believe dr.mox was suggesting you backup the cm7 partition should you wish to come back to gingerbread.
No I mean if you want to go back to 100% stock including removing radio s-off, you will need the partition 7 backup which the easy radio off tool generates. The easy tool also removes s-off but you need the backup.
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dr.m0x said:
Although if you want to get back to 100% stock you will also need to reverse radio s-off. You do have your partition 7 backup safe I hope.
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That why I love this forum, you learn something new every day, wondering what the files would be used for, will keep them safe.
Cheers
My SD card managed to go BOOM before i got to copy a backup of my P7 files,
will this make it impossible for me to get back to radio s-on if i would choose to?
Maybe this could help you get Radio S-on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
I'm sending my phone in to warrant repair tomrorow, I'm with orange got the phone about a week ago.
I'm going to flash the stock rom from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
its an RUU, after that i will use visionary to temp root and then set radio to s-on with that tool i linked above. After all that i will hardreset and keep the micro sd card. Will they know that i rooted/s-off my phone? Anything else i should look into doing?

[Q] How to update a rooted DHD????

I did download the update (Android ver. 2.2 ; Software # 1.83.415.4)
but can't install it (my DHD is rooted)
it crashed when restating the phone (in visionary+ I did the "unroot now" option)
Please Help
Have you done a factory reset?
I believe you need to return your phone back to stock. Remove any modifications and restore any system apps that you may have removed. Reset S-Off back to default. You can use one of the HTC WWE updates to return the rom back to factory default but beware this will wipe all data. Have a search on the forum and you should find plenty of info on how to carry it out.
Im sure the update contents will be rolled into custom roms soon anyway so there really should not be the need to go through all this bother.
two days I'm trying to find a way to update
my software is 1.32.405.6
and for two days I'm trying to find a way to update still nothing
(this is my first android phone)
and this what I did:
I finished from Titanium Backup
then ROM Manager and CWM Recovery (it took me some time to figure what is CWM , DHD is my first Android phone)
then backing-up the system and transfer it to my hard-drive
then updating using ROM Manager
when trying to update using ROM Manager and CWM Recovery
it restarted the phone to CWM and when trying to install it got an error and aborted the installation
********
so dose that means the the only way is to reset back to factory?
and how is it done??
will it take my ENG S-on to ENG S-off?
EngAziz said:
my software is 1.32.405.6
and for two days I'm trying to find a way to update still nothing
(this is my first android phone)
and this what I did:
I finished from Titanium Backup
then ROM Manager and CWM Recovery (it took me some time to figure what is CWM , DHD is my first Android phone)
then backing-up the system and transfer it to my hard-drive
then updating using ROM Manager
when trying to update using ROM Manager and CWM Recovery
it restarted the phone to CWM and when trying to install it got an error and aborted the installation
********
so dose that means the the only way is to reset back to factory?
and how is it done??
will it take my ENG S-on to ENG S-off?
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There is a good guide here which talks through the process of rooting. It also discussed how to return to stock. You might find that you have problems with your backups if you return to stock. You need to be running as root to restore the backup with titanium. As far as I know there is no easy way to gain root with the latest update (Visionary no longer works). I had to go through the downgrade process to allow me root access.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537&highlight=stock
If you decide to keep root and wish to try a custom rom I would recomend that you follow through any bits on the above guide that you have not done yet and try Android Revolution. It has most of the HTC stuff included + some more improvements. It runs faster than stock also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
Good Luck
I use it also (revolutionHD) is has latest Android version.
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Phone doesn't appear to be rooted having S-OFF

Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
Rooting is different from s-off. Rooting becomes easier when s-off.
Alpharevx wont root the phone but makes s-off (which is awesome thing compared to rooting) .
Even after s-off u can't write to system partition unless u mount it rw. Otherwise there would have worst problems.
Search the forum to root the phone. Or just use superone click root method to root ur phone (hard to give a link from my phone).
And another thing is u don't need to root a custom rom, because they will be already rooted. A rom is rooted, not the device. Root = presence of su binary in system folders as told simply.
Yes the backup includes installed apps as well.
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Thank you for clearing things up for me.
This was very helpful.
Jackal331 said:
Hi,
I've got two questions.
I've rooted my phone with AlphaRevX, HBOOT 01.1001 (however after the root now it says i have 01.1002).
Everything went ok, I've got S-OFF. However when I run root explorer (system folder) or titanium backup the apps say I don't have root privileges.
I don't understand this.
Also, I installed Clockwork 3.2.0.0 and backed up my ROM, does the backup include installed apps as well ?
Thanks.
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All is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

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