I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
Yeah just nandroid (which means backing up the rom and all your settings) and you can go back at any time. In Rom manager just go to Backup current Rom and you will always have a copy of your setup EXACTLY as it is.
You can update HBOOT whenever you want, it really doesn't matter when you do it. Once you do it will stay that way.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't doing a nandroid backup essentially make a complete clone of your entire phone that you can restore later?
eman5oh said:
I am running Virtuous and it is running smooth as butter, but I would like to try one of the CM7 nighly, and want to be able to go back if need be with out hours of work. I am running clockwork recovery and rom manager, and also have titaium back up installed. Phone is rooted with s-off. Can I just run a back up from rom manager do a complete wipe and install CM7. I also need to update hboot from .79 to .92 should this be done prior to the rom manager back up. Should CM7 not work out how do I restore back? Thanks
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Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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AlpineM3 said:
I've had lots of trouble with ROM manager not restoring or backing up my current ROM properly.....it'll always say that the installation was aborted or say the file is corrupt
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How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
Zoon0n said:
Okay, here's what you to do back up:
1. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup - DO NOT BACK UP PHONE DATA. Backing up data for games (e.g. Angry Birds) is fine, but don't back up contacts or Gmail or anything that's going to be included in your new ROM. Reason is, when you restore everything (more on that later), you don't want to have conflicting data screwing things up.
2. Make a nandroid using ROM Manager. Just go to where it says backup current rom, and let it do it's magic. You can (and should) rename it to something you can remember. DO NOT USE SPACES. I like to name mine with the date, ROM name, and version number (e.g. 2-3-11_Virtuous_3.1.0)
3. After the backup finishes, install the new ROM - I always do this through ROM Manager.
4. When CM7 is finished installing, download Titanium Backup and restore your apps using the batch operation - it's a lot simpler than trying to find all your apps and download/install them yourself
5. To go back, simply click "Restore Backup" in ROM Manager and pick Virtuous and all your hard work will be restored
Enjoy!
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Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
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How much free space is left on your card? Format and try it with a clean card. I have never had a problem with it restoring anything of mine.
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I've read that the newer versions of Clockwork are troublesome....anything after 2.5.05. I just went in and erased any previous ROM's that I don't use anymore to free up valuable space on the SD card. Hopefully it works, but the message error i've been getting......well not a message error, but my phone seems to freeze up while developing MD5sum. I read to leave it alone and it might take 10 min's actually, but just want to confirm this is true. Thanks.
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I use 2.5.1.2 and have never personally had any problem, sorry.
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Am I asking for trouble when backing up apps via titium, and switching roms? I thought that I read that somewhere? I have used app brain to do the restores, but it is a little slow. Also Thanks to everyone for the replies.
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I've gone from Stock to Virtuous to MIUI to CyanogenMod and I can say definitively that I have never had any problems with Titanium backing up/restoring apps. You are asking for trouble if you try to back up system data and restore it for ROM's that they were never intended for - just back up the apps you downloaded from the market/installed yourself and you'll be fine
So here is what I did,
1 Did a Rom back up from Rom manager
2 Backed up user apps with Titanium Pro
3 Updated Clock Work Mod to 2.5.1.2
4 Flashed Hboot from .79 to .92
This is were ran into a problem, after hboot flashed it just went into a boot loop were all I could do is go into hboot or clock work recovery but that is it phone would not boot. I searched a little and read that hboot wipes the kernal and that is why it will not reboot. I then went into clockwork and restored the rom I backed up in step 1, and it worked like a charm. Thought I would share so any one else who runs into this. Now off to flash cm7!
Rocking CM7 now, Thanks for all the help and advice from everyone. The Android community rocks.
I'm still pretty new to Android, coming from BlackBerry. Anyway, I just rooted my EVO using Unrevoked3 and I want to flash to the Mikfroyo ROM, but I'm completely lost on what do next. Do I install Unrevoked Forever on top of unrevoked3 and if so, how do I go about doing that. All I've seen searching threads is that I should probably use ROM Installer, but I guess I'm suppose to have S-ON?.. What's my next step after Rooting with Unrevoked3?
No. You are rooted already. All you have to do now is simply download the Rom you want to flash and place it on your SD card. Afterwards, turn off your phone. Simultaneously press the down volume button and the power button until your phone starts. You will enter the bootloader screen. You should see S-OFF. That means your security is off a/k/a you're rooted. Anyway, if you have a PC36IMG.zip file on the root of your SD card, the bootloader will automatically detect it and prompt you to install. Disregard. Anyway, select recovery and then you will be taken to the recovery screen. I'm assuming you have Clockworkmod as your recovery. Anyway, I don't remember the menu structure of it because I use amon RA as my recovery. Anyway, go to the backup/restore menu and create a nandroid backup of your current setup. In case you don't like the Rom you're about to flash, you can always return your device to the way it was prior to flashing by simply restoring the nandroid backup. After you've made your nandroid backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe EVERYTHING except the SD card itself. Afterwards, flash the Rom you chose and then reboot. Be patient during the first boot after flashing. Enjoy your new Rom..
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I don't have PC36IMG.zip on my card. Is that gonna be a problem? Is there somewhere I can download it?.. I backed up phone numbers and I used exuninstall (I've used before after wiping my phone) to backup my apps (is that pretty much the same as creating a nandroid?)
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I don't have PC36IMG.zip on my card. Is that gonna be a problem? Is there somewhere I can download it?.. I backed up phone numbers and I used exuninstall (I've used before after wiping my phone) to backup my apps (is that pretty much the same as creating a nandroid?)
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nope actually saves you some annoyance not having that pc36img.zip on there. a nandroid isn't the same as backing up stuff seperately. nandroid copies exactly what is on your phone's flash memory atm onto the sdcard, in .img formats. these are just in case you don't like the rom you flash. MAKE SURE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE BACKUP OF THE WIMAX PARTITION WIMAX.IMG IS THE ONLY NON-RECOVERABLE PART OF THE PHONE. for backing up, i'd use titanium backup. just hit menu, batch, and select backup all user apps +data. DON'T BACKUP SYSTEM DATA. just backup contacts by going to the people app, hitting menu, and import/export. choose export, and backup whatever you want.
since you used unrevoked, i assume you are using clockworkmod recovery. this is annoying to both you and developers who enjoy writing in amend scripting (cwm 3.0+ only reads edify, ick). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026 downlaod the pc36img.zip (here's where they come in handy) and put it on the root of your sdcard. then boot into bootloader, and accept the update. say no to the reboot. and choose recovery from the menu. next chance you get, remove or rename the pc36img.zip so it doesn't prompt you to update every time you boot into bootloader. now go to backup/restore, and make a nandroid backup. MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS HAVE AT LEAST 1 OF WIMAX BACKED UP IN SEVERAL PLACES LIKE PHONE, COMP, ONLINE BACKUP, ETC. IT'S IMPORTANT. then, back out to the main screen, and go to wipe. wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache. do this every time you flash a new rom btw. if you flash something ontop of a rom (theme, kernel, anything else, addon, etc) then just wipe cache and dalvik cache.
so now choose flash zip from sdcard, find the zip on your card, and flash it! it'll install. then choose reboot from the menu, and you're all good.
just ask if you have any other questions.
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Just wanna make sure about this..
Should I have both PC36IMG.zip and the mikfroyo on my SD at the same time or should I flash the PC36IMG.zip file and then put the ROM on my SD? And just to make sure I got it, the PC36IMG.zip will replace my recovery with a custom recovery, right?
And I don't need to flash Unrevoked forever?.. The only thing I've done so far is back up apps & numbers, wiped everything from the bootloader with the Clear Storage option, then rooted with Unrevoked3. (I rooted probably 5 mins before my original post)
x313x said:
Just wanna make sure about this..
Should I have both PC36IMG.zip and the mikfroyo on my SD at the same time or should I flash the PC36IMG.zip file and then put the ROM on my SD? And just to make sure I got it, the PC36IMG.zip will replace my recovery with a custom recovery, right?
And I don't need to flash Unrevoked forever?.. The only thing I've done so far is back up apps & numbers, wiped everything from the bootloader with the Clear Storage option, then rooted with Unrevoked3. (I rooted probably 5 mins before my original post)
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It doesn't matter. If you want to put them both on your card you can or if you want to install the PC36IMG and then go into recovery and choose usb/ms toggle(or something like that and delete the PC36IMG and then add Mikfroyo you can do it that way. After that just wipe data, cache and davlik cache and then choose flash zip from sdcard then choose zip then scroll to Mikfroyo and install. Use the volume buttons to scroll and the power button to select. If you leave PC36IMG on the sdcard it is not a big deal other than an inconvenience because every time you boot into bootloader it will scan and ask if you want to update.
PC36img.zip is a file name that your bootloader recognizes as an update to install, so the only reason people say to get rid of it or not is if you have a file named that in root of SD, everytime you go into bootloader, it'll ask to install it.
(I didn't quite get that when I first rooted, so I'm just throwing it out there in case you don't either)
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Read this:
http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
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Read this:
http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
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thanx i nearly forgot how to unroot again.. thx. now i can warranty my fone for heating up =)
scottspa74 said:
PC36img.zip is a file name that your bootloader recognizes as an update to install, so the only reason people say to get rid of it or not is if you have a file named that in root of SD, everytime you go into bootloader, it'll ask to install it.
(I didn't quite get that when I first rooted, so I'm just throwing it out there in case you don't either)
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I'm confused (sry if I'm just not getting it) do I need to flash PC36IMG.zip if I don't need to update? I'm running the latest version of everything. Wouldn't I be able to just make the backup with nandroid, then install the rom? Or is flashing PC36IMG.zip a must no matter what?
x313x said:
I'm confused (sry if I'm just not getting it) do I need to flash PC36IMG.zip if I don't need to update? I'm running the latest version of everything. Wouldn't I be able to just make the backup with nandroid, then install the rom? Or is flashing PC36IMG.zip a must no matter what?
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First, make sure your battery is AT LEAST at 50% before doing this. You don't want to run out of juice while it is writing or your phone will get bricked.
Secondly, I recommend you use Amon RA recovery. The easiest way to get it is to download ROM manager from the market, and scroll to the bottom of the app options to where it says "flash alternate recovery". This will install Amon recovery over the clockwork recovery that unrevoked installed on your phone. In recovery mode, you use the volume up/down buttons to navigate the menu and the power button to select your choice.
1) Download the rom, and place the zipped file in the root of your SD card.
2) Power off your phone, and power it back while holding volume down to boot into recovery mode.
3) If you haven't already, from here, create a NAND back-up of your phone in case something goes wrong. Make sure you check the box that says Wimax and you back up your Wimax keys, too. (This takes 5-10 minutes; let it finish)
4) From the recovery menu, wipe cache twice, dalvik cache twice, and data. (check advanced for the option to wipe dalvik)
5) From the main recovery menu, choose the "flash zip from SD card" and then look for the rom file you put on your SD card. Highlight it and use the power button to select it and flash it onto your phone. (This will take a while, too.....let it finish)
6) Reboot your phone and enjoy your new rom!
You can follow this process to flash just about any zip file, including custom kernels, miscellaneous fixes, certain themes, custom boot animations, etc. It is recommended that you flash one item at a time. Do not flash a bunch of things without rebooting the phone; do one at a time.
REMEMBER TO DO A NAND BACK-UP FIRST! If anything happens, this will make your life MUCH easier to get your phone back to how it is now without going on a much bigger mission.
I kinda figured that about the battery, cause when I used to flash CFW on my PSP I had to have the battery at least 75%... But what has me confused is the PC36IMG.zip. It wasn't on my SD after rooting, and I'm not trying to update anything, so do I still need to download and flash it or can I just go right to backing up nandroid and instill the rom?
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I kinda figured that about the battery, cause when I used to flash CFW on my PSP I had to have the battery at least 75%... But what has me confused is the PC36IMG.zip. It wasn't on my SD after rooting, and I'm not trying to update anything, so do I still need to download and flash it or can I just go right to backing up nandroid and instill the rom?
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The PC36IMG.zip file is named that way so your bootloader can recognize it. However, you are booting into a custom recovery, not the bootloader, so it doesn't matter if you have that file on your SD card or not. From the way you are talking, it doesn't sound like you even know what is inside that PC36IMG.zip, so I would just delete it. Or is it the rom file itself that is named that way? If so, you can still flash it via recovery even if it's named PC36IMG.zip......that's not a problem.
Just make a NAND back up, wipe and flash the rom. If something goes wrong, you can always power the phone on holding volume down to boot into the recovery to restore your NAND and start over.
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I kinda figured that about the battery, cause when I used to flash CFW on my PSP I had to have the battery at least 75%... But what has me confused is the PC36IMG.zip. It wasn't on my SD after rooting, and I'm not trying to update anything, so do I still need to download and flash it or can I just go right to backing up nandroid and instill the rom?
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Okay, I'm going to try to give it a shot.
For right now, forget the PC36IMG.zip. It was needed to switch recoveries, but it seems like it might be confusing you. Anything that flashes through the bootloader has to be named that, not just recoveries. It is suggested to use Amon Ra because some ROMs won't flash with Clockwork, which is what unrevoked puts on your phone. Amon Ra, in my opinion (and obviously other's) is a better alternative. To get Amon Ra - to avoid any problems with flashing - download Rom Manager if you haven't already. Choose "flash alternate recovery". When it's done, power off your phone then boot into the bootloader. Choose recovery, then do your backup. In Amon Ra, just keep the boxes checked, and then choose backup. After that's finished, go back to nandroid backup & uncheck the boxes that are already checked (with the power button), then check Wimax only and backup again. Once you're finished backing up, wipe & flash.
You don't have to use Amon Ra, it's just highly suggested. It's better to go ahead and do it now, since Ra won't restore backups made with Clockwork and vice versa - it'll save you from having to go back/forth later. Plus, I'm not sure how/if Clockwork backs up your wimax.
Good luck!
PlainJane is right. Forget about the PC36IMG.zip. In my post, I stated, "if" you have a PC36IMG.zip on the root of your hard drive, the bootloader will automatically recognize it and to simply disregard. If you had one, fine and if you didn't have one, fine. Disregard, either way. Remember, I don't know what you may have attempted to flash or the contents of your SD card. I was simply trying to be as thorough as I could. Everyone who has replied to your post has basically told you the exact same thing. Now, disregard any mention of the PC36IMG.zip file and follow the remaining steps and you will be fine.
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Okay, I'm going to try to give it a shot.
For right now, forget the PC36IMG.zip. It was needed to switch recoveries, but it seems like it might be confusing you. Anything that flashes through the bootloader has to be named that, not just recoveries. It is suggested to use Amon Ra because some ROMs won't flash with Clockwork, which is what unrevoked puts on your phone. Amon Ra, in my opinion (and obviously other's) is a better alternative. To get Amon Ra - to avoid any problems with flashing - download Rom Manager if you haven't already. Choose "flash alternate recovery". When it's done, power off your phone then boot into the bootloader. Choose recovery, then do your backup. In Amon Ra, just keep the boxes checked, and then choose backup. After that's finished, go back to nandroid backup & uncheck the boxes that are already checked (with the power button), then check Wimax only and backup again. Once you're finished backing up, wipe & flash.
You don't have to use Amon Ra, it's just highly suggested. It's better to go ahead and do it now, since Ra won't restore backups made with Clockwork and vice versa - it'll save you from having to go back/forth later. Plus, I'm not sure how/if Clockwork backs up your wimax.
Good luck!
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I also just recently rooted for the first time with Unrevoked, did the back up with Clockwork and can confirm that the folder with the backup has a file called wimax.somecode.img if that's what you're thinking of.
x313x, that page jstalford posted has some great info, and downloading Rom Manager, Titanium Backup and Busybox (was needed for one of those programs, don't remember which) made things much easier.
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PlainJane is right. Forget about the PC36IMG.zip. In my post, I stated, "if" you have a PC36IMG.zip on the root of your hard drive, the bootloader will automatically recognize it and to simply disregard. If you had one, fine and if you didn't have one, fine. Disregard, either way. Remember, I don't know what you may have attempted to flash or the contents of your SD card. I was simply trying to be as thorough as I could. Everyone who has replied to your post has basically told you the exact same thing. Now, disregard any mention of the PC36IMG.zip file and follow the remaining steps and you will be fine.
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Alright, cause right after you someone told me I should download it and gave me a link. That's why I was so confused..
Wait, I just went back to that link and I think the PC36IMG.zip he linked me to is Amon RA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026)
I tried to use ROM Manage to switch from clockwork, but it wont let me push Flash Alternative Recovery. It says: No Alternative Recovery Available
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Alright, cause right after you someone told me I should download it and gave me a link. That's why I was so confused..
Wait, I just went back to that link and I think the PC36IMG.zip he linked me to is Amon RA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026)
I tried to use ROM Manage to switch from clockwork, but it wont let me push Flash Alternative Recovery. It says: No Alternative Recovery Available
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I understand. Anyway, if you want to flash amon RA, simply download the zip file and place it on the root of your SD card and then power off. Simultaneously press the down volume button and the power button until your EVO starts. The bootloader will automatically detect the zip file and prompt you to install it. Follow the easy prompts to install. Installation of amon RA takes less than 10 seconds. Afterwards, reboot into recovery or to your homescreen.
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ok, i think i'll step out of this thread after this (the dude's got you) but just going to try and clarify what a pc36img.zip is.
a pc36img.zip is what bootlaoder recognizes as an update. it can contain anything. a system, a kernel, a recovery, anything. maybe even everything. so keep them organized. they are all different. like the one i was telling you to flash installed amon-ra recovery. it's helpful to then delete or rename the file, so bootloader doesn't ask you to update next time you boot to bootloader.
is that any better? hah it's sorta hard to explain.
I got it up and running a little bit ago and it's running great with no problems. And it really was as easy as you all said. You guys are awesome, thanks for putting up with me
Hey guys, so I'm a noob and need a little bit of help. I just downloaded this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
Now, what do I do with it? Also, will I lose all of my data by flashing this onto my phone? (ie: my texts and my homescreens, etc?)
Thanks!
are you rooted? if not...
http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/updated-root-the-htc-droid-incredible/
once you have clockwork recovery and all that, boot into recovery, 'flash rom from sd card' (after putting the zip file on ur sd) and ur good.
If you dont want to lose everything, after root, download titanium backup and run that. you will be able to apply most of your stuff back on once you flash a new rom.
howbout some thnx -.-'
I'll give you some thanks for that succinct explanation of steps to take.
I'm ready to root with unrevoked - guessing I should use the "flash and recover" version instead of their "forever" one?
I installed Titanium backup, which I'll use after rooting to backup pretty much everything that it can grab.
Then, I'll use the SD card-based install that you mentioned.
I've read that I should do a full wipe before installing the OTA ROMs being offered - is another tool needed for that, please?
- ooofest
You've got it. The newest version of Unrevoked has made the "forever" one obsolete.
You will be able to perform all the wipes required from within Clockwork Recovery.
Also, make a clockwork backup (nandroid) as soon as you have root, so if you run into any problems flashing roms you have something to restore.