[Q] Is an anit virus required? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just looking through the Market place and noticed AVG. Is it recommend to have an AV on the DHD?

I'm pretty sure you don't need one.

it depends on where you get your apps from, if you soley download off the market i'd say no, but if you like to get apps off the net and install them manually, then maybe, android is quite susceptible to malicious applications especially when rooted. such malicious applications could do things like, forward your emails and sms's to another location, keylogging, accecss to make phone calls with no permission, prompt or dialer showing, and other info stealing activities

AndroHero said:
it depends on where you get your apps from, if you soley download off the market i'd say no, but if you like to get apps off the net and install them manually, then maybe, android is quite susceptible to malicious applications especially when rooted. such malicious applications could do things like, forward your emails and sms's to another location, keylogging, accecss to make phone calls with no permission, prompt or dialer showing, and other info stealing activities
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Thanks for the reply. I have used the Market and Applanet but no other places. Would these 2 places both be classed as "safe"?
Have there been many reports of these dodgy apps taking over an Android then?

bluebirds said:
Thanks for the reply. I have used the Market and Applanet but no other places. Would these 2 places both be classed as "safe"?
Have there been many reports of these dodgy apps taking over an Android then?
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i woulnt class applanet as safe, infact it's particularly risky lol read this its just one story of malicious apps on android, if you search the web you will find many more http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/malware-infected-apps-threatening-android-devices/

AndroHero said:
i woulnt class applanet as safe, infact it's particularly risky lol read this its just one story of malicious apps on android, if you search the web you will find many more http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/malware-infected-apps-threatening-android-devices/
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So is there no chance of this happening if I use just the Market?

bluebirds said:
So is there no chance of this happening if I use just the Market?
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there is still a chance even with just the market, it's a catch 22 situation, the more companies like google invent preventative methods to detect malicious software, the more innovative hackers get in trying to infect us lol

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I see all these applications that users put onto their ROMs, as well as other applications that are suggested which are great. My question is, is there a good website for all these HTC/Smartphone application?
PDAgold.com is good for freeware but all you have to do is GOOGLE !!!!!
True but i can't google about applications I don't know exist. I'd like to just browse and look at programs that I might use.
www.freewareppc.com for free stuff
Otherwise I like http://www.pocketgear.com/ for paid software
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True but i can't google about applications I don't know exist. I'd like to just browse and look at programs that I might use.
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So you type in
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=freeware+applications+for+PPC&btnG=Google+Search
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Google can remotely remove apps from our phones!

This is an interesting article.
Google this week removed two applications from its Android Market, and exercised a feature that lets the company remotely delete the apps from a user's phones.
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socktug said:
This is an interesting article.
Google this week removed two applications from its Android Market, and exercised a feature that lets the company remotely delete the apps from a user's phones.
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Old news m8
Really? I never knew they could do it.
I found it interesting anyway. Lol
cant you just reinstall the backup apk via astro?
Disappointed, Google is becoming Apple.
In no way is Google becoming apple it was a malicious app that wasn't what it said it was I am glad they look in to the apps and can pull bad ones out b4 they can do harm
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Which apps was that? The article doesn't say?
I don't mind them taking it from the app store, good for them doing that.
They intruded my phone. That is the exact same thing apple has been doing/does.
Maybe I liked that app and WANTED it on my phone?
And that sucks my dear friend.
ljesh said:
I don't mind them taking it from the app store, good for them doing that.
They intruded my phone. That is the exact same thing apple has been doing/does.
Maybe I liked that app and WANTED it on my phone?
And that sucks my dear friend.
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So you would rather keep a malicious app that doesn't do what it says it does and can cause harm to your phone and/or steal your information?
Yes, I would rather keep a malicious app that does whatever it wants on my phone instead of Google invading your privacy.
Or lets put it this way. You better live with your malicious app instead of putting me in situation for Google to invade my privacy.
Or maybe you would like your antivirus company to have access to remove viruses from your PC? I mean, they are still doing good job, keeping your PC clean... and invading your privacy.
I (personally) am really concerned about this issue, don't know why nobody talks against this. Either you ignore it, or support it. Really strange.
ljesh said:
Yes, I would rather keep a malicious app that does whatever it wants on my phone instead of Google invading your privacy.
Or lets put it this way. You better live with your malicious app instead of putting me in situation for Google to invade my privacy.
Or maybe you would like your antivirus company to have access to remove viruses from your PC? I mean, they are still doing good job, keeping your PC clean... and invading your privacy.
I (personally) am really concerned about this issue, don't know why nobody talks against this. Either you ignore it, or support it. Really strange.
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i can appreciate your position on privacy. however i find your stance invades my freedom to own a phone. you state that i should live with a malicious app so you can keep your privacy. i don't know enough about programming to tell if an app is malicious or not, so i personally don't mind allowing google to remotely remove a malicious app. if you don't like or agree with this, don't use the marketplace. you agreed to allow google to use this feature the second you entered the app market. you can manually download apps and install them to your phone outside of the marketplace and preserve your privacy.
I am NOT happy with this act of google.
ljesh said:
Yes, I would rather keep a malicious app that does whatever it wants on my phone instead of Google invading your privacy.
Or lets put it this way. You better live with your malicious app instead of putting me in situation for Google to invade my privacy.
Or maybe you would like your antivirus company to have access to remove viruses from your PC? I mean, they are still doing good job, keeping your PC clean... and invading your privacy.
I (personally) am really concerned about this issue, don't know why nobody talks against this. Either you ignore it, or support it. Really strange.
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While I agree that this capability of Google's sounds a bit shady, consider this:
-Privacy is the issue here. Yet, most Android users use Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Google Docs, etc. Therefore, Google already has much of our supposedly private information. Ironic thing is that we, the users, willingly provide it to them.
-This "feature" of Android is relatively well-known. So, it's not like Google was deliberately trying to hide something. Moreover, they even came out to say that they utilized this "feature". They're certainly not obligated to do so and yet, they did it anyway.
-Apple fully controls the user experience on their iOS. All applications must be approved by Apple. The Android Market doesn't experience this sort of control from Google. So perhaps Google uses this remote kill feature as a form of last-resort control. I realistically can't fault Google for wanting some sort of control over their OS.
Google have never hid the fact they can remove malicous apps from peoples handsets. Keep in mind they can only do it, if the app was installed through the marketplace, i for one have nothing to hide so have none of the privacy issue others seem to worry about, and the ppl that say "ooh id rather have malicious software on my fone than have google wipe it" u shud think more about the people who dont want malicious code on there phone and that by comunicating with other android phones you could be passing it on
This all came up before when the iPhone first came around, and the discussion will be no different this time.
However, in custom ROM design there were options created as a killswitch to Apples God Mode.
I'd say the only way to resole the problem would be to follow in those steps.
Make an update.zip that will patch out the relevent code or application that allows google to do this. Then you make the concious choice on your own without affecting anyone else.
I think it's better that google has a feature like this, and to those people that talk about privacy.
How about a app that steals all the information stored on your phone or makes expensive calls.
Google has less impact on your privacy then those apps can do.
i dont like this either, how about (since people get notified anway) that google simply gives an advisory that appears on peoples phones stating why this app needs removing. that way you can ignore it if you want.
you know that this will be used to remove apps that the RIAA/MPAA mafia complain about - that's just a matter of time.
i'm curious if it's a 1 time thing. like they remove it, but you have the apk still and just re-install the sucker
ljesh said:
Yes, I would rather keep a malicious app that does whatever it wants on my phone instead of Google invading your privacy.
Or lets put it this way. You better live with your malicious app instead of putting me in situation for Google to invade my privacy.
Or maybe you would like your antivirus company to have access to remove viruses from your PC? I mean, they are still doing good job, keeping your PC clean... and invading your privacy.
I (personally) am really concerned about this issue, don't know why nobody talks against this. Either you ignore it, or support it. Really strange.
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Please, stop with the privacy bull****. During this process google never accessed any of you data of your phone, hell they never even entered your phone, but merely pressed a button that sent a request to your phone to delete the retarded app.
You guys need to stop whinning about stuff that you accepted in the first place (yes you did, by clicking "i accept those terms" when accessing the market).
Can people stop spreading FUD? You can install whatever app you want on your phone...Google can't touch them unless you got them FROM Google in the Market. If you got malicious apps from Google I guarantee you guys would be the first on the net *****ing and moaning about it.
How do I know this? From the numerous "Swype broke my multi-touch!!" posts that followed the Swype developers BEGGING you not to install it. No matter how much they said it was unfinished leaked code, fools STILL installed it and then wanted to ***** about it breaking their phone, albeit temporarily. This proves one thing...end users are usually pretty dumb. Google is covering their back as it's been proven they can't really trust their users to use sense.
Aitese said:
Can people stop spreading FUD? You can install whatever app you want on your phone...Google can't touch them unless you got them FROM Google in the Market. If you got malicious apps from Google I guarantee you guys would be the first on the net *****ing and moaning about it.
How do I know this? From the numerous "Swype broke my multi-touch!!" posts that followed the Swype developers BEGGING you not to install it. No matter how much they said it was unfinished leaked code, fools STILL installed it and then wanted to ***** about it breaking their phone, albeit temporarily. This proves one thing...end users are usually pretty dumb. Google is covering their back as it's been proven they can't really trust their users to use sense.
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[Q] Virus for Android phones, what do you think ?

I read on the web that virus for android exist. Is it really dangerous ? What do they do on the phone ? What can I do to protect my phone ?
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well, they do exist...i remember some article at androidpolice.com which said google had to remove like 50 apps from the market because they had malware in them...
i use lookout mobile security on my phone to avoid any damage...its free on the market and has some usefull features beside the malware scanner
AFAIK and remember, they are like keyloggers, and sending security sensitve data, like passwords, settings etc. to not wanted people. (read it in the same article about those malware programs removed).
I say, as long as you download trusted programs, there should be no problem.
i think it is not right
If they're gonna make viruses, they might as well make them for Apple's overpriced iPhones. Not that HTC's or Droids are cheap, but at least the source code is free, collaborative and transparent. Best of all, Android takes to heart the concept of consumer choice.
For me, I make sure that Lookout is updated, and apps I download have at least 5,000 downloads and 500 or preferably more ratings, that way I can at least be assured to a certain degree that the app's legit.
Its a pain but very unlikely that you will get them anyway. You have to be stupid to get them. I personally don't run security apps because there is no point.
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Meaple said:
Its a pain but very unlikely that you will get them anyway. You have to be stupid to get them. I personally don't run security apps because there is no point.
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+1 to this. Read comments from apps before install and you'll be fine.

[Q] RuFraud - How do you identify if an app is malicious?

Hey Guys,
A lot of the mobilephone blogs today are buzzing with the RuFraud Malware that was detected by Lookout Mobile and later taken down by Google from Android Market. About 22 odd apps which included apps & games too. According to Google, the end-user can see the services the apps will use before installing it in Permissions, but I usually don't go through them while installing as do most other end-users.
Now my concern is, if I've installed one of these "malicious" apps without knowledge and I want to detect that and delete them off the phone, is there any way to do so? I've performed a full-scan (SD card also) with avast! Mobile Security BETA (which btw, is kickass) but it hasn't detected anything.
I could also go through the Privacy Advisor feature on it, but that would mean me checking one-app-at-a-time which may take a while seeing as I have over 400 apps.
Anyway to detect the malware that apparently sends bulk premium SMS and racks up a huge bill? I don't have premium TXT enabled on my service since I am on Prepay & usually don't send any premium TXT but it would be nice knowing that my phone is malware free.
Any inputs would be appreciated.
well, i don't do any banking on my phone, i'm on pay as you go with the BEST mobile network...Three.co.uk...so i just whack on 15 quid a month and get unlimited everything......so i personally couldn't give a to** if any malware get's on my phone....
....nothing to get off my phone, unless they like sexy birds dressed in santa outfits, then i'm screwed, coz i'll cry if i lose them
I'd say, chill, don't be too paranoid.....b4 you download and install, look at reviews of apps......if it's only recently been uploaded to market and has no/not many reviews....google it first.
I allegedly have warez markets on my phone....allegedly.....and have never had a problem.
All I use my phone for is 99.999999% of the time browsing bulls**t on the web, messing about with fun apps, very rarely use texting or calls......so not worried.
But if your one of those that uses your phone for business/work/banking/etc...and have credit/debit cards stuff stored on there, then google the f**k out of any new app with no or few reviews....get 4,000 different virus and malware scanners on there.
Oh god, i'm dronning on and don't even know what i'm talking about now....arrghhhhh.
matt
w3bhax said:
Hey Guys,
A lot of the mobilephone blogs today are buzzing with the RuFraud Malware that was detected by Lookout Mobile and later taken down by Google from Android Market. About 22 odd apps which included apps & games too. According to Google, the end-user can see the services the apps will use before installing it in Permissions, but I usually don't go through them while installing as do most other end-users.
Now my concern is, if I've installed one of these "malicious" apps without knowledge and I want to detect that and delete them off the phone, is there any way to do so? I've performed a full-scan (SD card also) with avast! Mobile Security BETA (which btw, is kickass) but it hasn't detected anything.
I could also go through the Privacy Advisor feature on it, but that would mean me checking one-app-at-a-time which may take a while seeing as I have over 400 apps.
Anyway to detect the malware that apparently sends bulk premium SMS and racks up a huge bill? I don't have premium TXT enabled on my service since I am on Prepay & usually don't send any premium TXT but it would be nice knowing that my phone is malware free.
Any inputs would be appreciated.
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Best advice is to look at the permissions the app wants. You say mist end users don't, well then they get what they deserve really. Not being mean its just that if you keep important info in your phone then you should be more careful about what you install as a simple uninstall may not remove any malware that was installed by the app. This reason is a huge deal for Android users. Too many people wanting simple and easy and well we all know Linux based OS are neither
zelendel said:
Best advice is to look at the permissions the app wants. You say mist end users don't, well then they get what they deserve really. Not being mean its just that if you keep important info in your phone then you should be more careful about what you install as a simple uninstall may not remove any malware that was installed by the app. This reason is a huge deal for Android users. Too many people wanting simple and easy and well we all know Linux based OS are neither
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Yeah, I hear you. I usually don't check permissions cuz I install apps & uninstall them after I'm done with them. For eg: a game, etc. So yeah. I did find my Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit app that I paid for on Market, infact has SMS permissions. It says "malicious apps may send SMS to premium numbers" lol when I downloaded this app, it said the dev was Electronic Arts too.

Parallel Apps for Custom Roms

I know there is apps like Parallel Space but let's be honest, no one wants an ad lurking in the corner of your WhatsApp window. Is there any other app (AD FREE) or solutions for this thing?
charackthe said:
I know there is apps like Parallel Space but let's be honest, no one wants an ad lurking in the corner of your WhatsApp window. Is there any other app (AD FREE) or solutions for this thing?
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I have not seen many as this is a nich thing. Not many people worry about having more then one instance of an app. Its mostly in India and China where you find people using things like that.
zelendel said:
I have not seen many as this is a nich thing. Not many people worry about having more then one instance of an app. Its mostly in India and China where you find people using things like that.
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I was moving from one carrier to another and I have to stay there for 3 months, so for three month I'll have two sim cards and I'll designate one as my work card. That's why I'll need it for three months.
charackthe said:
I was moving from one carrier to another and I have to stay there for 3 months, so for three month I'll have two sim cards and I'll designate one as my work card. That's why I'll need it for three months.
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Then your best bet would be to run one of the stock based roms that have this built in. Apps are made so you can only have one installed and used at a time. Some roms find a way around it but those are normally OSS or MIUI roms. AOSP roms wont have this functionality.
charackthe said:
I know there is apps like Parallel Space but let's be honest, no one wants an ad lurking in the corner of your WhatsApp window. Is there any other app (AD FREE) or solutions for this thing?
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if its only about whatsapp just use GBWhatsapp's Dual Whatsapp.
GBWAPlus = The Primary WhatsApp, The One To Replace Your Official One.
GBWA Dual-WhatsApp = The Second WhatsApp To Install Separately For Running 2 WhatsApps.
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For facebook you can use Friendly. better and more battery friendly than official facebook app anyway.
other social media apps i dont use, so cant tell about more.
MarcTremonti said:
if its only about whatsapp just use GBWhatsapp's Dual Whatsapp.
For facebook you can use Friendly. better and more battery friendly than official facebook app anyway.
other social media apps i dont use, so cant tell about more.
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Is GB Whatsapp safe for daily use? Any info mining or something to be concerned about? Is the privacy as "private" as official Whatsapp?
charackthe said:
Is GB Whatsapp safe for daily use? Any info mining or something to be concerned about? Is the privacy as "private" as official Whatsapp?
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You need to let go of any privacy concerns as long as you use FB and apps owned by FB or Google.
zelendel said:
You need to let go of any privacy concerns as long as you use FB and apps owned by FB or Google.
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That's why I put the thing in quotation marks
My actual question is (without being sarcastic) will there be anyone raping my privacy except Google and FB if I were to use GBWhatsapp?
charackthe said:
That's why I put the thing in quotation marks
My actual question is (without being sarcastic) will there be anyone raping my privacy except Google and FB if I were to use GBWhatsapp?
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No most apps are pretty safe when it comes to peoples data. The fear mongering that goes on in android is amazing. Ill be honest. The average person could install and infected app and have their data collected but in most cases it is disgarded as it really is worthless.
You take the same chance with apps like this as you do with custom roms, xposed mod, root and all the other nice little things people use.
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No most apps are pretty safe when it comes to peoples data. The fear mongering that goes on in android is amazing. Ill be honest. The average person could install and infected app and have their data collected but in most cases it is disgarded as it really is worthless.
You take the same chance with apps like this as you do with custom roms, xposed mod, root and all the other nice little things people use.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the collected data is some text and some other useless stuff that's literally worth nothing and the most extreme thing that they can collect is the IMEI number which is again useless right?
charackthe said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the collected data is some text and some other useless stuff that's literally worth nothing and the most extreme thing that they can collect is the IMEI number which is again useless right?
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Oh no not at all. Heck most apps already collect your IMEI. This could be used to clone your device and with the right other info that can be collected could have them completely able to piggyback your account.
With the right setup I could collect every thing you type into the device. All devices already come with a built in keylogger. I could get all your passwords, bank account information and passwords, everything. Its just alot of work and the average persons info is not really worth it.
When apps collect data it is mostly mining your email addy. To be sold in lots to different groups.
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Oh no not at all. Heck most apps already collect your IMEI. This could be used to clone your device and with the right other info that can be collected could have them completely able to piggyback your account.
With the right setup I could collect every thing you type into the device. All devices already come with a built in keylogger. I could get all your passwords, bank account information and passwords, everything. Its just alot of work and the average persons info is not really worth it.
When apps collect data it is mostly mining your email addy. To be sold in lots to different groups.
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I'm a actually mostly concerned about my pictures, videos and such. What about those? I'm guessing it's possible to access them but average app wouldn't be concerned about those right?
charackthe said:
I'm a actually mostly concerned about my pictures, videos and such. What about those? I'm guessing it's possible to access them but average app wouldn't be concerned about those right?
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Can they be gotten? Yes but if they are looking at your pics and videos then they know already what they are looking for and it is a targeted attack. The only time I worry is if I was (I dont) use a cloud storage setup.
charackthe said:
Is GB Whatsapp safe for daily use? Any info mining or something to be concerned about? Is the privacy as "private" as official Whatsapp?
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I didnt check the code but its based on the old whatsapp plus. And so far i havent heard anything bad about it.
And it has a lot of privacy options like hide your online status, hide quitting sticks or anti message revoke feature.
And you can send pictures in original quality, and increase video size sending limit. Huge theming option etc etc, it has a lot of stuff.
Do you know how to get the parallel space function out of a custom rom?

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