Need HELP Please to downgrade Moto DEFY to 2.1 - Defy General

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME
Last week I purchased Moto DEFY without blur in India. I tried to upgrade to Froyo 2.2 using the upgrade instruction in XDA forum.
1. Rooted using the defy_recovery-1218-0326-signed.apk tool.
2. Took Nandriod backup.
3. Updated the andriod version from 2.1 update 1 to 2.2 Froyo.
4. Updated the Firmware to BOOY_ONLY.SBF (defy_2.2_boot_only) file. using the RDS Lite 4.9 tool
After, finishing the upgrade, rebooted and started the phone.
Issue started with Camera, other apps, hence i tried to update the ROM to JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1_BLUR_P3_SIGN_A011_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf to fix the issue, but this still worsens the issue.
To over come this issue, i updated the firmware to JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-002_BLUR_SIGN_P003_A002_HWp3_Service1FF version.
After this, i am not able to see the main menu or any other menu in phone.
I have my Nandriod Backup in my SD card.
Even I tried to go to recovery mode, by using the key combination of VOLDOWN + POWER button and touching the search softkey, but no use as i do not get the option.
Could any body help in resolving this issue, and helping me to go back to Eclire 2.1 on 2.51.0 Firmware
Below is the firmware, i would like to go back.
System version: Moto_Version.2.51.0.MB525.Retail.en
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01
Build Version: JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0

I would recommend this tutorial :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674
However the problem is that you need to find the spf file specific to you which like the tutorial states can be found here
http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
Hope this reference helps you
Goodluck! because i had the same problem just fixed it an hour ago = ]

Quick quesiton you said you wanted to go from 2.51 to 2.1?
Yet your last update was to 3.2 which i believe is non-downgradable?
Shed some light on this and prehaps someone more intelligent on this forum will be able to help you out im still very much a noob lol`

All you have to do is flag 2.51 central european deblur and and then restore your android backup.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

thanks for the reply....
Will try it out...

J_abba said:
I would recommend this tutorial :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674
However the problem is that you need to find the spf file specific to you which like the tutorial states can be found here
http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
Hope this reference helps you
Goodluck! because i had the same problem just fixed it an hour ago = ]
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Which verison of ROM you used to recover? Can you please elobrate the recovery method.
I could not get in to recovery mode, even on retarting the DEFY with VOL down + power on button, as i do not see the recovery option, instead, i see adriod with exclamation icon on the screen, and would allow anyhting else to do. SO i am not able to recover from my nandriod backup.
Help me please

big_f6 said:
Which verison of ROM you used to recover? Can you please elobrate the recovery method.
I could not get in to recovery mode, even on retarting the DEFY with VOL down + power on button, as i do not see the recovery option, instead, i see adriod with exclamation icon on the screen, and would allow anyhting else to do. SO i am not able to recover from my nandriod backup.
Help me please
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if you're on 2.2. I recently found out that you have to hold down both the VOL up+down button to get to the recovery options. So boot with PWR+VOLDOWN and when you see the triangle android logo thing, hold down both of the vol buttons for like 1 sec

I was trying hard to go back to original 2.1 (2.51.0) as well. But now I'm totally loving the orange 2.2 rom.

ABC_Universal said:
I was trying hard to go back to original 2.1 (2.51.0) as well. But now I'm totally loving the orange 2.2 rom.
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are you in India? does this ROM support India GSm network + GPS functionality?

big_f6 said:
are you in India? does this ROM support India GSm network + GPS functionality?
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exactly...for last 2 weeks i have banged my head over all available roms in the forum.....but everytime the same problem....indian network support is pooor....very weak signals..........finally landed to chinese froyo with minimum blur (but sufficient)..somehow it supports network in India (delhi)......but has poor battery backup....i m keeping it under observation after underclocking.......otherwise this is the best option i got till date.....
Also, i have kept the sbf from this post...every time i screw my defy this lands me back safely....i then use recovery to recover my stock nandroid.......
may be you can also give it a try....good luk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884105

hi can you please upload your original ROM, so that, i can downgrade it to?
Thanks in advace

PLEASE!!!
i want to restore my defy back to stock... please upload nandroid stock.... would appreciate it extremely

Hi, thanks for the guide!
I'm afraid to have bricked my phone:
Now mount a custom ROM, CyanogenMod 7 (Gingerbread 2.3.4)
I'm trying to return to Froyo by RDS Lite and original Sbf file but when the process reach 100% and say "PLEASE START PHONE MANUALY" the phone continue (more then 20 minutes) to have write ANDROID in cyano.
Tried three times to repeat the process but.... :-(

Help! (India) RSD Lite recognizes it, but no display
I have the indian motorola defy. I was actually trying to install cm7.
I ended up in a blank screen. I tried to load many sbfs to get my phone back, but I couldn't. It just shows the white led, and rsd lite recognizes it, and even shows "Result: Pass". I don't know what the problem is.
Please help me.
Was originally on 2.2.2 India SBF

PaarthBhanushali said:
I have the indian motorola defy. I was actually trying to install cm7.
I ended up in a blank screen. I tried to load many sbfs to get my phone back, but I couldn't. It just shows the white led, and rsd lite recognizes it, and even shows "Result: Pass". I don't know what the problem is.
Please help me.
Was originally on 2.2.2 India SBF
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did you wipe data/catch with stock recovory before flashing the sbf?

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[Q] My Defy really is Dead!

Ok my phone is DEAD! Yes I have have read alot of posts and used my mate "Google" but they are all saying or pointing to the threads saying flash with the .sdf files with RSD which I have done Infact i've tried most .sdf images. I work in ICT so I know to do research first before posting but I'm not getting anywhere. I just hope i'm being a numpty and missed something.
I have an unbranded UK one original version 2.21 and I had successfully flashed with the available roms on here and others by following the steps, but last night I flashed it with PAYS rom and it was fine but then it all went pear shaped when I tried to flash it back to the original 2.21 rom via RSD Lite but it's just a black screen and when plugged in I get a charge light. The Battery is fully charged.
I can not enter Bootloader and when I enter system recovery it does not respond when pressing the bottom right hand corner.
RSD does see the phone connected and it runs through the process of flashing it but then it goes to re-boot and nothing. RSD says it's finished, it does not go through the process of re-booting the phone.
In RSD on the phone properties this is all I get:-
IMEI/ESN/MEID: N / A
Technology: N / A
Software Version: N / A
Flex Version: N / A
Bootloader Version: v0x000910
DRM Version: N / A
AP Die ID: 1e600209036f60010000d8ff0100
BP Die ID: 0000000000000000000000000000
AP Public ID: a9e56c008df05759e72a50cf0e4ce907eea6c0de
Please, please somebody help me!
Simple way to start off is to start with original UK 2.51 sbf. Forget 2.2 now and start from beginning. I bricked mine trying Pays too.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
chaihg said:
Simple way to start off is to start with original UK 2.51 sbf. Forget 2.2 now and start from beginning. I bricked mine trying Pays too.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
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Hi,
I have tried flashing the 2.51.sbf even tho it has the problems with downgrading. It does the same as the the other 5 or 6 i've tried.
Thanks for your suggestion tho.
I'm no expert, but is this where the touch all four corners going clockwise starting is upper left comes in?
Thought I read something about doing that when touching the single corner didn't work to get into recovery.
I could have misremembered (don't even know if it was in this forum), but it couldn't be that hard to try and it doesn't sound like you have much to lose.
maybe search four corners or something to figure out more.
Maybe time for factory repair
ABC_Universal said:
Maybe time for factory repair
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I think it may be time to call Motorola. Thanks for the tips guys.
Just tried the battery hack to charge it but nothing, even uninstalled everyting and downloading fresh .sbf files from work and still DEAD!
RIP Moto Defy, it was only one week old!
On a life experience tho, my first even bricked device......woooohoooooooo!
I've had quite a few phones that I have customized from here, top effot guys. There are many greats minds on here.
Think as i've just lost it, it could be time to retire and go (dare I say it!) mainstream, run of the mill Nokia.....GULP!
In the future it would be better to post these issues in the thread of the ROM you are having issues with. More people who may have had similar issues may be able to help you and it helps the dev know what issues you're having.
it_ferret said:
I think it may be time to call Motorola. Thanks for the tips guys.
Just tried the battery hack to charge it but nothing, even uninstalled everyting and downloading fresh .sbf files from work and still DEAD!
RIP Moto Defy, it was only one week old!
On a life experience tho, my first even bricked device......woooohoooooooo!
I've had quite a few phones that I have customized from here, top effot guys. There are many greats minds on here.
Think as i've just lost it, it could be time to retire and go (dare I say it!) mainstream, run of the mill Nokia.....GULP!
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Did you send it away?. You sounded like a bright guy we could have solved this together though . Ultimate thing you could have done was to flash one of the leaked original UK froyo sbf. If you still have not sent it then do this. BTW what is the bootloader version when you put it on vol up+ power ?
Have the same problem
The phone is briked. Only RSD is working but wathever sbf I flash, at the end i get the same black screen. I can not do anything. Please could someone help us?
If someone send their phone to service, please share the result.
The only sbf file that start the phone is
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-002_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B8RTGB035.0R_USAJRDNFRYORTGB_P003_A002_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
but is working hard, the market is not working, everything i want to download is say that is downloading and nothing hapends.
Could someone tell me how to go back to original software?
The recovery mode is not working, when the android face is showing, i tap all corners and all display area but nothing hapend.
For recovery mode, you should click both vol up and vol down simultaneously. They changed the recovery button function with the new bootloader.
it_ferret said:
Ok my phone is DEAD! .....
Please, please somebody help me!
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I had the same problem, but with luck i had read this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940647&highlight=market
and i succeded to restore my "brick" into one working phone.
Try it.
Many thanks to : adlx.xda
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11226369&postcount=5 works for me
Umm... I just bricked mine (HK version 2.51.0) as well.
I used ClockWorkMod Recovery for Defy to install 3.4.2 131-003 Orange Deblur. When the recovery finished, I found a tiny yellow line "E: can't open /cache/recovery/command" on the bottom of screen. Not sure if it was there before the recovery. When rebooted the phone showed the M logo for a minute, turned black for a second, and showed the M back again in loop.
Then I installed RSDlite 4.8 to flash the sbf directly. RSDlite finished and showed a "Pass". The phone was turned off automatically but couldn't be turned on again. The battery was fully charged before I started the update so it's not likely the battery charge problem.
Weudel said:
In the future it would be better to post these issues in the thread of the ROM you are having issues with. More people who may have had similar issues may be able to help you and it helps the dev know what issues you're having.
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I did post in the thread.
Heys guys thanks for all the comments, but last night it came alive.
I used 3 different computers and in the end the last pc I used was a WIN 7 x64 machine and it managed to complete the .sbf install which was a 34.4 version then i applied my previously nand backup to 34.4.4 US T-Mobile version which is Jboogie3 rom.
Keep up the good work guys and gals. This is an excellent community to be in.
ABC_Universal said:
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11226369&postcount=5 works for me
I tried this install but that aswell failed.
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im a newbie at this and did pays flash but had probs couldnt dial out ect ect so went to recovery but could not get bottom left hand screen work so after half day of trying i clicked both bottom -vol and top+ vol and restart button on top and it worked!!! but thought id give the rom one last go so did factory reboot flashed cash ect restarted signed into blur and now works great pleased i stuck with it...cheers pays

help! please read bricked and its a new phone!!! want a beer?

ok guys so i just picked up a brand new defy. got it home tried to run z4root and it just would not work. so i decided to just use super one click. did that no problem.
i then went ahead and used the 2nd init. still no issues. then when i was ready to flash i got stuck. cant load into bootloader or anything. im afraid the battery may be close to dead but im unsure.
currently all i can do is see the m logo. thats it. cant seem to get into recovery.
i also tried rsdlite but i cant sem to find the right files cause they all have the wrong extensions.
please help. i have no problem with buying someone a beer!!!
1. Boot the phone into stock recovery by holding power and volume down at the same time, press both volume buttons when it boots and go to factory reset/cache, run that.
2. Reboot into bootloader, by pressing power and volume up, plug into your PC.
3. Download the latest version of RSD Lite, and download a 2.2.1 SBF of your choice. You'll need to unzip the sbf file from the .gz using a .zip program, I use WinRAR.
4. Open RSD Lite, choose the sbf file, make sure the phone is connected in BOOTLOADER mode (step 2)
5. Run RSD Lite, wait until is says "PASS" In the dialogue box.
6. Enjoy!
ok so i got it back to the bootloader that you mention. however its flashing battery low cannot flash. or something like that. now what...
1st of all you if the blue led does not lit then you should try to go to stock recovery (start your phone using vol down + power, then press the lower right corner of the screen when the android appears with an exclamation mark - on Eclair- / press both Vol Up+ Vol Down -on Froyo -). Then you can start your phone into bootloader and flash the SBF again.
PS: older 2nd init versions get stuck on boot if the USB debugging is ON and the battery must be taken out to restart your phone.
EDIT: wow...how many replays have you received while I was typing mine Good luck and keep us posted!
If it says battery low, cannot flash, simply charge the battery for a bit, and then retry
how can i charge the battery? i have no lights blue or white...
I'm not 100% positive about this, but if the phone is off, and not bootable, I think plugging it in still charges it. Anyone know?
ok i just went to radioshack and bought a stand alone universal battery charger. im guessing if i give to 30-45 min that should be enough to try this process. any other tips/tricks in the meantime? im wondering where i went wrong. also what is the best file (link if possible) to use? lastly what will it take to get back to usa tmobile rom and i guess start over?
Since you are in the US use this sbf http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz with RSD lite. Use this version of RSD lite 5.3.1 and Motorola drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=609901&d=1306603535.
ALWAYS go into recovery and wipe first before entering bootloader and flashing sbf
The sbf I linked above is the stock eclair 3.6.360 for the US
Good luck if you need help just ask we are all here to help! You can PM me as well
zyxwvut said:
Since you are in the US use this sbf http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz with RSD lite. Use this version of RSD lite 5.3.1 and Motorola drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=609901&d=1306603535.
ALWAYS go into recovery and wipe first before entering bootloader and flashing sbf
The sbf I linked above is the stock eclair 3.6.360 for the US
Good luck if you need help just ask we are all here to help! You can PM me as well
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Thanks for sending him those links.
Good luck, and as said before, if you need anything just ask, we are all here to help!

please i really need some help!!!!

my friend gave me the motorola defy to try to flash it to 2.2..so i got this firmware :JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTFR_P029_A006_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf i flashed it and now the phone doesnt start anymore!!!!only the led is working!!!!what can i do???please help me otherwise i got to pay that phone to my friend!!!!
ieppa said:
my friend gave me the motorola defy to try to flash it to 2.2..so i got this firmware :JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTFR_P029_A006_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf i flashed it and now the phone doesnt start anymore!!!!only the led is working!!!!what can i do???please help me otherwise i got to pay that phone to my friend!!!!
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The sbf you have used is an android eclair 2.1 and not a froyo 2.2.
Have a look in the sticky thread by walter79 in the dev forum as it has a list of all the sbf.
You just need an android froyo 2.2 sbf.
From my MotoDefy on Android 2.3.4 CM7.
Ye but now the phone is dead!!!what can i do?
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Check ur battery and try Stock Recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114772
Try all things there and hope it works.
If you cam reach either stock recovery our boot loader, there is hope for your phone
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the only thing that i get is the white led!!
tried to do everythings..but it doesn't work
do you remember the version which was active on your friends phone before you flashed. ??
Try to reflash that sbf again.
i cant reflash it because my phone is dead!!!
So your phone does nothing?
Did you remove the battery, hold vol up and re insert the battery while maintaing vol up?
If nothing happens maintain vol up and hold power for 5 secs..... Anything happen?
If you can't get to bootloader you have SERIOUS problems or YOUR BATTERY IS DEAD
either use an external charger or use the Mcgyver method.
ALWAYS wipe before flashing an sbf. vol down+power gets you to stock recovery so you can wipe.
first and foremost, can RSD lite detect your phone? If yes, your phone is still alive, just in coma, not dead. download a full sbf, and not some fixed sbf and flash it. it should work.
if not, you'll have to give us more information on what you have done, what are you seeing, instead of just saying it's dead. that's not gonna help us help you. it will just mean that the phone will remain as it is.
the phone is dead...rds doesnt recognize my phone!!i flashed the firmware that i posted before..after that i saw white led in the phone...and rds still could detect my phone but it was late and i thinked: i'll put oldest firmware tomorrow im tired...so the day after i went to get the phone...and it was dead!!

[Q] Resetting Defy to "factory"

Hey ppl.
I have a big problem, hope you can help me solve it.
I installed jboogies blurless ginger Froyo build 4 a while ago and everything worked fine. Now the gps module and the loudspeaker is broken and id like to send it in. I guess my guarantee is kinda gone when i sent it in with the modified ROM.
Is there any way to get the old bootloader and the normal Blurish Android?
Please help me.
Thanks in advance!
First, you need:
Original SBF of your country, seek for it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
RSD Lite + Moto Drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100585
Then, once you've got everything, power off you phone. You must enter into recovery mode: press volume down and keep pressing it, press power button. Wait for android robot to appear, then press both volume keys and select "Wipe data/factory reset".
Reboot your phone, this time by holding volume up button. Connect phone via usb to pc ( wait for pc to recognize device ), open rsd lite and flash your downloaded sbf.
i am still running the original factory settings + android update, is there a way to save the original factory settings before i try a new rom? sorry i am in a hurry so did not have much time to search the forum first, and as its along the same lines as the first poster i figured it would be a good place to ask a similar question and expand the thread rather then creating a new one
install cwm and make a nandroid backup of your system then search for a fixed sbf of your current software..as long as you have both of them you should be good to go.
Ty for the help one more what do i look at on my phone so i know im getting the right sbf?
at a guess you need t-mob 2.2 us rom
thanks much appreciated.

[Q] "bricked defy"

Hi.
After I successfully installed the cyangen mod, i wanted to install swype and some google apps. that is when i flashed the nightly sbf...
Since then, I could not start my phone..., only the bootloader (no matter which volume key i pressed).
So I looked for a full sbf to flash and found one, with code 2.5... (jrdnem u3 2.51.1)
but now, I can not even enter the bootloader. the only surviving signal of my phone i get is the white led when i connect it to the pc...
the battery status was at. about 85 %...
I'm really sorry, but i would be very greatful to receive some help
ps. before i flashed the nightly sbf, i forgot to wipe this thing in the bootloader...
Well...in my desperate state I was not able to type in the right words into the search bar. I think I found the answer to my Problem... My only task now is to find a well working sbf 2.5...
I'm still confused. I thought I'm not, but- would it be a problem if i flash the nordic cynagenmod, sbf version 3.4.2?
I would not knwo why not, but after I have these problems, I dont want to do anything again without knowing the consequence...
If you could enter stock recovery. You can do full wipe and boot to bootloader to flash your previous working sbf. If only bootloader your get now, just flash the nordic sbf and boot it into stock recovery to perform the full wipe.
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
Right now, I don't even see the Bootloader or any Motorola-Logo. It just nothing happening, when I press the power button.
Your battery may well have run out of juice (same happened to me once upon a time). Leave it off, stick it on charge. Go have a cup of tea or two, then try again.
Alright. Now I'v had the time to check again.
Even with charging, the phone is still not turning on.
But I've read somewhere :" Don't worry, as long as you "see" your device in RSD Lite you can still flash the firmware. My big question is: WHICH SBF will help me? I#m really afraid to flash anything, because I don't now the consequence...
About the Cyangenmod: It said, it is not downgradable... does this mean, that I must take the JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1 sbf?
Hope this tips shade some light in your quest of resurrection of your dying Defy.
1) Use RSDlite 4.9 or 5.0 as these program known to be stable on PC.
2) Use the latest Moto driver 5.0.0 ver. Google it and you find it easily.
3) Install both the above 1) and 2).
4) Take out your Defy's battery, plug in USB cable on both ends
5) launch the RSDlite and insert the battery. You'll get some drivers installing and have the connected status display on the RSDlite window.
6) Flash the phone to this file HERE.
7) After flashed completed (At this point you won't get a normal boot yet, screen still black or stuck in moto logo), reboot into stock recovery and do full wipe.
8) Reboot again and you should be seeing it alive again.
Note: If somehow your battery run flat. You must do the Mcguyver trick to flash your phone. Do it quickly to avoid your battery get fried and damaged. I would suggest you brigde the wire connection to a 100Kohm resistor to bring down the voltage/current, this will protect your battery from getting fried.
Wish best of luck this time around.
Wow. Thank you very much for this step-to step guide.
Now, before I get started I have one question left: Can I also use the 5.1 Moto Driver? Or should I downgrade it?
I have the RSDLite 5.0 now, (before it was the 5.33 or so).
Those drivers should work too..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
I tried what u said, it's just that RSD does not recognize my phone, so I cannot even flash. I want to believe this is because the battery has run flat (which I don't understand, it still had about 70 % 2 days ago, when the whole story started...)
Please tell me that this is just the symptom of a low battery?!
Is it possible that the flashing has wiped out all firmware and bootloader and chargin system availeble on the phone?
My defy has the same problem. I have changed battery and a universal charger but i dont to know as resolve
I used the Mac Giver trick to flash the sbf onto my defy. It worked, my Defy is working again. Thank you very much

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